namor vs aquaman

[yell0w_lantern]

That long haired blond dude that Namor's kissing sure has some big biceps.

[GrizzlyBearTalon]

That long haired blond dude that Namor's kissing sure has some big biceps.

Woah I just looked at that pic again... I guess Aquaman & Namor decided to settle their differences themselves... with love... and man kissing...

I mean it does look more like Aquaman than Sue Storm, especially if you consider this blue costume.

Don't worry Namor & Aquaman, we promise your secret is safe.

[BentonGrey]

*shakes head*

[JeyNyce]

Okay I've seen enough......

[stumpy]

Okay, I am just going to paraphrase Seinfeld's Raquel Welch joke: "Those aren't biceps..."

and then back slowly toward the door...

[DrMike2000]

Namor's early appearances in the FF make him out to be not just na undersea strongman but a bit like Green Arrow, only with trick fish instead of trick arrows.

I seem to remember he also throws some kind of underwater sponge or fast growing coral or something at Ben one time that almost engulfs him.

[BentonGrey]

Namor's early appearances in the FF make him out to be not just na undersea strongman but a bit like Green Arrow, only with trick fish instead of trick arrows.

I seem to remember he also throws some kind of underwater sponge or fast growing coral or something at Ben one time that almost engulfs him.

I remember those appearances.  Yeah, Namor pulled some pretty crazy stuff out of the ocean.

[steamteck]

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And another favorite moment of mine:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c55/tgtmarvel/jla-004-10.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c55/tgtmarvel/jla-004-11.jpg
Morisson did alright by Aquaman.

I really really really hate his telepathy affecting humans.  it just smacks of all those uber powers they kept adding to Martian Manhunter over the years which made him less interesting to me. I think if he tried that Namor would pull will and strength from his depths and overcome because its  such a villainous type of attack. ( and I like Aquaman especially JLU version much more than Namor.) Did I mention I hate his telepathy able to give humans seizures etc.


OK rant over.  I think Aquaman might pull it out even if Namor is  stronger because he does seem faster and a more tactical fighter and more importantly, in more recent versions at least, seems to have more of a will and determination not to fall. I think they'd both be really mauled by the time they were done though.

[detourne_me]

honestly it would be one hell of a fight between the two. especially if each were allowed to dig deep into their grab bags of assorted powers over the years. however if we look at the common denominations of each character... by that i mean how they are perceived most often by the public, by their fans, and how they are depicted in popular media, the fight would have to go to Namor. He is just physically more powerful and more ruthless by nature.  Also this is one of the few times that it's actually a DC character that's an analogue of a Marvel character, and not the other way around.


EDIT: Although Aquaman does clean Namor's clock in a googlefight.

[jtharris86]

Please stop before we have to see NSFW pictures of Namor & Aquaman. I'm not sure I like where this is going. I am a little afraid even. Pretty sure I don't want this discussion to go that far in the comparisons department.

lol

[JeyNyce]

This is a great topic and all, but let's be honest, if this was going to happen it would be up to the writers who would win.

[BentonGrey]

This is a great topic and all, but let's be honest, if this was going to happen it would be up to the writers who would win.

Don't be silly JeyNyce, it's ALWAYS up to the writers.   They are fictional characters, after all.  Of course their unreality creates a sliding scale by which all such matches are measured, but we can make educated guesses from the "evidence" of their fictional histories. 

I'll say again, I agree Namor is physically stronger, (although a strong case could be made that he is not any tougher, and in fact at a much greater disadvantage out of water than modern Aquaman) but how often do we see characters beat opponents who are physically stronger than them?  Heck, Captain America gets by pretty much on speed and reflexes alone.  Strength is only one element in the equation.  That being said, in a purely physical confrontation, I do give the edge (however slight) to Namor.  After all, that's what he does.  Aquaman, however, has a lot more going for him. 

Steamteck, Aquaman's telepathy affecting humans is hardly a recent edition.  It was present back in the 60's!

[marhawkman]

And it apparently works on aliens too! Rather recently he used it to try to defeat Despero!

[herodad1]

namor is stronger and tougher( she-hulk was clobbering him ) but i think aquaman is a thinking-fighter.namor lets his ego and temper get the best of him most of the time (98%).aquaman would probably,if telepathy and fist dont work try to make him defeat himself.if its toe-to-toe i'd go namor but any other way well.....

[BentonGrey]

Namor is tougher?  Spoken with conviction I see.  Ahh...you're going to make me back up what I said about Aquaman's toughness, hmm?  

Able to withstand incredible pressure...of course:
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7194/aquamanagainst800atmospheres4d.jpg

Aquaman takes on the Deep Six, six, count 'em SIX class 100 bruisers who gave Orion a run for his money.  Arthur takes the best they've got and still puts them down.  He did have his "son" Koryak (can't stand the character) to help him, but still...that's two against six.  Slig at least is on She Hulk's level, and they are all likely higher.
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/7595/aquamanv508083it.jpg

Taking fire from a hi-tech weapon:
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5086/aquamanfightsblind021kj.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9571/aquamanfightsblind038me.jpg

Surviving a big torpedo strike (in style):
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8906/aquamansurvivesatorpedo015zr.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/7272/aquamansurvivesatorpedo027ql.jpg

A little more:
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/1227/jla02511tl7.jpg (ouch)
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3523/jla02512is4.jpg (bulletproof)
Right after this he jumps all the way back down to the ground, taking that water guy out in the process.

Takes a GIANT blast from a huge Starro:
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/849/jla23pg13kt0.jpg (Which knocks Orion flat out)
Not only does he survive, but he's right back in the fight:
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/2360/jla23pg16mw9.jpg

Trades blows with King Shark, who has played fisticuffs with Superboy on a number of occasions:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/3332/swordofatlantis46page14zu4.jpg

And one of my favorites, Aquaman takes on the UNBELIEVABLY powerful Titus:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/2087/jlaclassified53011ij4.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/210/jlaclassified53012wu9.jpg (The narration says he lasts a minute against this guy, but just for some context, about a page back Titus casually knocked Superman across a continent.  The fact that he was still alive after this encounter speaks volumes.)

I'm not saying Aquaman is tougher, in fact, I rather suspect the opposite, but I am saying that it is anything but cut and dried.

[marhawkman]

Uh... the bottom of Challenger Deep is about 1000 Atmospheres... 800 would be one of the deepest parts of the ocean.

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/7595/aquamanv508083it.jpg
^ who's the Orange babe?

Um seriously though, "big six"? If Orion could beat them single handedly then they can't be that strong.

Titus? He looked kinda worn out....

[BentonGrey]

Oookay:

Aquaman has been pretty much everywhere in the ocean, including to the bottom of the Marianas trench (although that one was pushing him).

The orange babe was some kind of elemental the Deep Six had called up somehow.  I haven't read the story arc, just the part with the fight.

He didn't.  Orion beat them one at a time.  I think he may have taken on two of them at the same time.  Interestingly enough, that's pretty much what Aquaman did.  The point is that these guys could HURT Orion, who is roughly Superman level, and Aquaman can take punches from them.

Titus was doing just fine.  He hadn't exerted any real effort by that point.

[marhawkman]

Hehe... I'm not trying to argue a point, just talking.

Titus was then staggered by Black Canary. :p

I'm kinda sure that the Deep Six would have been shown as able to hurt superman, before getting their clocks cleaned......

[herodad1]

aquaman v.s galactus anyone?

[BentonGrey]

Ha, that's one I don't think 'ol gilhead could win.  Although...perhaps if he served as a conduit to direct the thoughts of all the beings on Earth against big G.....   I should really be writing Aquaman....

Canary made him flinch, but the Canary cry is pretty darn powerful.  She can tear down buildings, after all.  

That's the point though, they can hurt Superman with a punch.  Aquaman can take a punch from them too.  Meaning Aquaman should be able to take a punch from, say, She Hulk, with equal ease.

[marhawkman]

*looks up Deep Six in an attempt to find out about the Orange babe*

Apparently they've fought a group called the "Supermen of America". In a 2000 comic that is.

Oh and the only hard data I could find on the "Orange Babe" was a name. Pyron. Amazingly generic and boring huh? Other scraps I could gather: Apparently she's from Apokolips, and fought Orion at some point. (Her name is in a list of Apokoliptian Villains in an article about Orion's miniseries. More specifically, she was in the issue titled "Day of Wrath".) This was from the DC.wikia. Wikipedia had nothing. From what I can gather though it looks as if this Pyron character only appeared in two issues.

[DrMike2000]

Wow! Having seen your extensive collection of Aquaman pics here, Benton, I've got to say you come to a vs. thread prepared.

Even more prepared than Batman is when he defeats Superman every other week.

Therefore I can only conclude that Benton could take on Batman.

[Previsionary]

Wow! Having seen your extensive collection of Aquaman pics here, Benton, I've got to say you come to a vs. thread prepared.

Even more prepared than Batman is when he defeats Superman every other week.

Therefore I can only conclude that Benton could take on Batman.

This is a guy that wrote an essay on Aquaman. Also, his super power is "Aquaman" sense. Haven't you ever wondered how he always seems to pop up whenever Aqua-dork is mentioned?

[BentonGrey]

Wow! Having seen your extensive collection of Aquaman pics here, Benton, I've got to say you come to a vs. thread prepared.

Even more prepared than Batman is when he defeats Superman every other week.

Therefore I can only conclude that Benton could take on Batman.

Yes...yes I could.

Ha, Prev., despite your denials, I know that you love Aquaman deep in your cold, black heart.  I suppose as I've grown more and more fond of the character I have also grown more knowledgeable.  All of that adds up to me also growing more attentive to people underestimating or misunderstanding Aquaman and all the more willing to defend against such instances.

[DrMike2000]

Writing an essay is easy, like building a Batmobile.

Having a dazzling array of pictures of Aquaman's feats lined up and named and ready to go is more akin to having files on all your teammates and how to take them down should they turn evil.

Be careful what you say about "The Grey Man", Prev. We wouldn't even see him coming if we really dissed Aquaman...

[BentonGrey]

 

[GrizzlyBearTalon]

Namor is tougher?  Spoken with conviction I see.  Ahh...you're going to make me back up what I said about Aquaman's toughness, hmm?  

Able to withstand incredible pressure...of course:
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7194/aquamanagainst800atmospheres4d.jpg

Is that... Shaggy Man in that container? Just wondering... I just learned the character even existed the other day and was curious when I saw it.

A little more:
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/1227/jla02511tl7.jpg (ouch)

Also did someone seriously try to defeat Aquaman with... WATER? Wow... what an unimpressive villain, heh.

[marhawkman]

Who ever it is it looks like a ten-foot Yeti.

[DrMike2000]

That was indeed the Shaggy Man in the tube in the Morrison and Porter JLA images there.

[BentonGrey]

Thanks Dr. Mike, that is indeed the Shaggy Man.  I haven't read that arc (I really want to read the rest of Morrison's run on JLA, as it does seem to be pretty good), but from what I understand, the League was trying to prevent some military group from recovering the Shaggy Man's body.  My guess would be that this is the beginning of the General, but I don't know for sure.

Ha, well that guy was actually trying to drown the Flash (who he had trapped IN his body), and just used his high pressure spray to knock Aquaman away.  Of course, he DID knock him about a zillion stories up into the top of a building...so....