What's With This Deadpool Guy?

[yell0w_lantern]

A smart alec mercenary named Wade Wilson whose costume has features suspiciously reminiscent of McFarlane's Spider-man.

Can you say pastiche?

I can imagine how it went down at the Marvel Bullpen:
Dude 1: I like chocolate and I like peanut butter.
Dude 2: I like McFarlane's Spider-man and I like Death Stroke the Terminator.
Dude 1: But chocolate and peanut butter aren't trademarks of DC.
Dude 2: Don't worry, bro, I'll just change his name so no one will know...

[Previsionary]

Is this a jocular thread or actually serious? Deadpool was created by Rob Liefield (and his personality was created by Fabian Nicieza). The story goes that Fabian noted that Rob's new character drawing was eerily close to Deathstroke, so Fabian played off of that.

But yes... this has been known for years. DC has played off it, Marvel has, and fans have. It's not a big secret. I'm surprised you didn't make any mention of his fourth wall ability being stolen from She-hulk.

[yell0w_lantern]

Consider it a mixture of jocular and serious - let's call it joculous.

I haven't read a Marvel comic since... well, I honestly don't remember the last time I read a Marvel comic. In fact, hadn't even heard of Deadpool until the last couple of years.

I'm just continually amazed how Marvel seems to get more cred than DC. Case in point, I've heard many complaints about DC's multiverse but the same people have no problem with Marvel's.

[Previsionary]

I've seen people try to compare the two multiverses concepts. The difference is, however, that you aren't required to know anything about Marvel's other multiverses because they don't affect the main universe. With DC, their many Earths have interacted several times to the point where they've had to do several reboots to get to the "simplicity" of their main world. Is Wonder Woman an originator of the JLA or is it Black Canary this week? Is Clark Kent still part of the Legion's early stories or is he not? Things like that seem to change every other year in the DC verse and they follow that up by having events that rely heavily on said changes. As bad as Marvel may be, you at least know the original Avengers and X-men aren't changing every 5 years just to have a fresh take on the origins. You don't have to know anything about Exiles or the Age of Apocalpyse to jump into the X-stories. There lies the key differences in how people approach DC and Marvel's universes.

[murs47]

Deadpool was intentionally created to be a rip-off of DC's Deathstroke as a joke. Much to the chagrin of DC, the rip-off is much more popular than the original. I wish one of his numerous titles were of high quality though. I miss having a comic that makes me laugh out loud. I hate you, Daniel Way.

Case in point, I've heard many complaints about DC's multiverse but the same people have no problem with Marvel's.

Marvel doesn't make the mistake of having their alternate realities intertwine with their main universe. I thought Infinite Crisis was great because it reset everything and got rid of all the alternate reality nonsense. I was really into DC around that time. Then they screwed it all up with the end of "52" and brought all the alternate realities back. My pull list dropped from about 12+ to 3 since then.

[deano_ue]

. The story goes that Fabian noted that Rob's new character drawing was eerily close to Deathstroke, so Fabian played off of that.

rob steal a character i've never heard of such crap

[lugaru]

Back when he was made he may have been serious but right now he is pretty much the most clever parody of the 90's I've seen. Overused, yes, but a pleasure to read when done well.

[detourne_me]

. The story goes that Fabian noted that Rob's new character drawing was eerily close to Deathstroke, so Fabian played off of that.

rob steal a character i've never heard of such crap

well his name is ...  ...rob!

[yell0w_lantern]

I can get behind parody. Parody works for me.

[lugaru]

And with that out of the way I can now post some great deadpool moments:

Deadpool looks like Spidey?


Explaining to a skrull why pouches on your costume are useful with a trademark 4th wall breaking Liefield joke.

Spoiler

Deadpool gets tired of being shot full of arrows by bullseye, so he hides in a meat locker and has the great idea of making MEAT ARMOR.

Spoiler

Wolvie is a telepath now.

Spoiler

Pancakes in the morning.

Spoiler

[steamteck]

I thought the real difference was DC other universes were really interesting back in the day and not depressing and unheroic.  I'm a huge  pre-crisis earth 2 fan.

[Previsionary]

Ugh, Lugaru... Waypool is more miss than hit. Stop that! Where's your C&DP scans? Or even the Amazing Spidey appearance scan? Or Joe Kelley scans? Or Suicide Kingz scans! Stop hurting me!

[lugaru]

Ugh, Lugaru... Waypool is more miss than hit. Stop that! Where's your C&DP scans? Or even the Amazing Spidey appearance scan? Or Joe Kelley scans? Or Suicide Kingz scans! Stop hurting me!

Those where the first images I found on google. Man... as far back as the first miniseries there where some great moments, maybe I'll track some more down later (although be my guest).

[Previsionary]

The only scan I have available to me right now is this awesome image from Weapon X: First Class (don't ask):



Now, that was a pretty good Deadpool backup story.

[deano_ue]

[Glitch Girl]

No Joe Kelly scans yet?  That was the run that actually got me into Deadpool.  One of my friends still quotes from the time they met the Great Lakes Avengers/Lightning Rods ("Eww... I've got Mr. I in my hair"). 

#11, the Spider-Man retro issue is classic.
More about it, plus scans

Deadpool meets Black Talon is still a favorite too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/Selke/theblackchickenhead0.jpg

And I think this is Kelly's handiwork as well
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8025/bfdpb11nastynat3iw.jpg

(There's also a bit involving the line "Teddy's achieved ramming speed" that would take too long to explain, but it is a personal fave, even though the rest of the issue was a little weak)

[Kenn]

Where would one perform the deathstroke?  If one is swimming in the deadpool.

[Kenn]

And DC's old multiverse never should have been a problem.

Earth-Two = Where the Justice Society and 7 Soldiers of Victory live.
Earth-Three = The "Mirror, Mirror" world where Superman and Batman are bad guys.  Only rarely seen.
Earth-X = World where Nazis one World War II, and honestly after the Freedom Fighters left we never saw it again.
Earth-S = Where the Marvel Family and the other Fawcett characters live.

(I don't count Earth-4 since it wasn't invented until CoIE.)

[daglob]

And DC's old multiverse never should have been a problem.

Earth-Two = Where the Justice Society and 7 Soldiers of Victory live.
Earth-Three = The "Mirror, Mirror" world where Superman and Batman are bad guys.  Only rarely seen.
Earth-X = World where Nazis one World War II, and honestly after the Freedom Fighters left we never saw it again.
Earth-S = Where the Marvel Family and the other Fawcett characters live.

(I don't count Earth-4 since it wasn't invented until CoIE.)

I never thought it was a problem. I read assorted fictional series, too, and I never had trouble separating the Marvelverse from the DC Multiverse, or from the 1930s of Doc Savage, The Shadow, or The Spider, nor did I confuse Known Space with the London of Sherlock Holmes, or the Africa of Tarzan, or The Hyborian Age, or Melnibone, or Nehwon,or the future of Aarn Munro, or The Lensman, or Childhood's End, or...

I've often wondered what started the story that DC's multiverse was too confusing? Without any proof, I have long believed that it was an excuse for why comics didn't sell as well anymore (the price, of course, had NOTHING to do with it), and then used as a "reason" to do an "event" and "simplify" things.

As for Deadpool, he is an excuse to satirize anything the writer wants to. Kind of like Plastic Man once upon a time...  .

[steamteck]

And DC's old multiverse never should have been a problem.

Earth-Two = Where the Justice Society and 7 Soldiers of Victory live.
Earth-Three = The "Mirror, Mirror" world where Superman and Batman are bad guys.  Only rarely seen.
Earth-X = World where Nazis one World War II, and honestly after the Freedom Fighters left we never saw it again.
Earth-S = Where the Marvel Family and the other Fawcett characters live.

(I don't count Earth-4 since it wasn't invented until CoIE.)

I agree certainly less confusing than the multiple revisions and retcons.  sign.