MUA 2

[electro]

Want to thank Grizzly & Midnight for there relentless effort to get the links to these cool Comic/videogame videos - MUA2 looks so amazing now - Jugghead couldn't look cooler & will half to preorder the game to get him - As ussual I don't enjoy any of the new costumes but, that Green Goblin outfit might the best incarnation i've seen to date - Now for the wish list of who makes the final roster - The Hood, Punisher, Constrictor, Hercules, Yellowjacket

[Previsionary]

Herc is a sub-boss, so it's more than likely final that he isn't in the roster at all.

[captmorgan72]

I really want Herc as a playable character. I was checking out Venom and was thinking how much he looks like a rancor from Star Wars. What do you think? http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/#/Characters/Venom and a rancor http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rancor-CHRON.jpg

[GrizzlyBearTalon]

I really want Herc as a playable character. I was checking out Venom and was thinking how much he looks like a rancor from Star Wars. What do you think? http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/#/Characters/Venom and a rancor http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rancor-CHRON.jpg

Gonna have to totally agree with you, there is a very strong resemblance.

[TheMarvell]

I don't know. For some reason, I'm just not very excited for this game. The first one looked way better, imo.

[Viking]

I just wish I had a better sense of how it was going to look on different consoles.  I can't help but feel like all of the footage shown thus far is just on the PS3 and XBOX 360 consoles, and that we haven't yet been given a glimpse of what it would look like on the Wii or PS2.

[captmorgan72]

I don't know. For some reason, I'm just not very excited for this game. The first one looked way better, imo.

You are kidding right?

[deano_ue]

have we been told which characters are locked into which story eg, you can only play them as pro or anti

also have the exclusives been announced, i would hate someone like GG to be xbox only

[lugaru]

have we been told which characters are locked into which story eg, you can only play them as pro or anti

also have the exclusives been announced, i would hate someone like GG to be xbox only

Yeah, I would hate it if Glich Girl is a console exclusive. Wait, you mean Green Goblin? Oh...

This is why I like it when a game sneaks up on me, the fact that we have had a million updates every step of the way has me thinking "jaysus hurry up already".

I do like the fact that only 2 characters are locked in per side... it means I can really build whatever pro or anti team I want. It almost makes me wish they did a custom hero feature, it would be so easy to work "new heroes" into the civil war storyline.

[Ares_God_of_War]

I know Stark and Reed are locked to Pro and Cap and Cage to Anti - I also thing songbird may be locked to Pro as well.

[TheMarvell]

I don't know. For some reason, I'm just not very excited for this game. The first one looked way better, imo.

You are kidding right?

lol, no. I don't know what it is, really. Normally I'd be pumped for a new superhero game. Maybe it's the overall look of the game, or perhaps my lack of knowledge of the storyline. But from what I've seen or heard, I have yet to be really impressed I guess. I could easily change my mind, and probably will once the game is released. But right now, I don't know, I'm not nearly as excited about this game as I thought I'd be.

[Tomato]

I agree with Marvell as well... most probably because of the designs. Heck, it's entirely because of the designs. They're ugly, and many of their design embellishments do not have a purpose or reasoning behind them, and in some cases actually IMPEDE COMBAT.

Wolverine is the worst example of this. We've got a collar that gets in his face, boots and gloves so armored that they restrict movement (and this is WOLVERINE, a supposedly speedy melee fighter), and a mask seemingly designed to rub against the back of his neck.

When you have reached a point where your designs are less logical then the "unstable molecules" in the comics, you have an issue.

[captmorgan72]

I agree with Marvell as well... most probably because of the designs. Heck, it's entirely because of the designs. They're ugly, and many of their design embellishments do not have a purpose or reasoning behind them, and in some cases actually IMPEDE COMBAT.

Wolverine is the worst example of this. We've got a collar that gets in his face, boots and gloves so armored that they restrict movement (and this is WOLVERINE, a supposedly speedy melee fighter), and a mask seemingly designed to rub against the back of his neck.

When you have reached a point where your designs are less logical then the "unstable molecules" in the comics, you have an issue.

yeah, i know what you mean about some of these costumes. Some of them are improvements on Marvel classics and some are not. I don't care for Wolverine's "real world costume" either but his classics will be available, so it's not a big deal.

[Glitch Girl]

Gotta agree, these characters look UGLY.  I know they're trying for a sort of "realistic" grim and gritty look, but the end result is lumpy, clunky, and not that easy on the eyes.  Characters who should look streamlined (like Songbird for instance) don't feel streamlined, and others (Wolverine for example) just look bleah.

Just because you can detail the hell out of something doesn't mean you should. 

[GrizzlyBearTalon]

Things that go bump in the night (part 2)

[Tomato]

but his classics will be available, so it's not a big deal.

Is there any confirmation of this? I mean, I'd assume there would be, but as far as I know that's based on the previous games, not on anything they've come out and said. And even so... what is the guarantee we'll be getting the spandex for the classics?

[captmorgan72]

but his classics will be available, so it's not a big deal.

Is there any confirmation of this? I mean, I'd assume there would be, but as far as I know that's based on the previous games, not on anything they've come out and said. And even so... what is the guarantee we'll be getting the spandex for the classics?

http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211386/ At 10:10 he says that each character will have at least one additional costume and they will be as detailed as these "real world" costumes. I get nervous when he says at least one additional costume, because it will be hit or miss for the classics we all love. For Wolverine, I want that alternate costume to be the tan and brown.

[TheMarvell]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who is feeling less than thrilled about this game, lol. Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure it is the hideous designs of the characters and their costumes. Plus, I think my interest in the game reached it's lowest point when I saw one of the bigger trailers several months ago. The video was just really unimpressive and freaking UGLY. Plus, now with Wolverine's stupid looking costume "upgrade" and Venom looking like a Rancor from Star Wars, I just don't see myself wanting to play this game... at least not nearly as much as the first one. Right now, at this point, I'm definitely going to see what the reviews and others say about it before checking it out.

And I know they're using the Venom from the newer comics, with Mac Gargan, but dammit, give me the classic stuff any day over anything modern. Mac Gargan is supposed to be SCORPION, lol.

[Viking]

Interesting.  I find that the costuming is not an issue for me - I'm much more interested in whether the gameplay and story will be good.  And I've had favorable impressions on both of those counts thus far.

I haven't read any of Marvel's recent comics, so I'm only dimly aware of the concept of the Civil War storyline - the sheer destructive capability of superpowered characters causes Congress to get sufficiently nervous to pass a registration act, and assorted Marvel characters have divided feelings on this, leading to conflict between the pro- and anti-registration factions.  Since it sounds like you can opt to play through either faction, I like the possibility of two separate "What If" storylines within the same game.

I'm also psyched to see the innovations in this version that did not exist in the first MUA.  Being able to play the Green Goblin with his glider is one such nifty innovation.  I'm also enthused about the new fashion in which teammates can combine their powers.  In the original MUA, combos were pretty bland - two heroes fired off their special powers at the same time, resulting in some extra damage and prompting the game to call out "COMBO!"  Whereas in MUA2, every conceivable pair of characters has a unique special combo "fusion."  Storm can deflect her electricity off of Captain America's shield, allowing a wide-angle spray of electricity.  Songbird can surround Juggernaut with a pulsating sphere of sonic energy, granting him an area-effecting shockwave as he barrels through enemies.

While I will grant that the artistic team may have made some really bad calls on costuming design, this ultimately is unlikely to affect my enjoyment of this game.

[captmorgan72]

And I know they're using the Venom from the newer comics, with Mac Gargan, but dammit, give me the classic stuff any day over anything modern. Mac Gargan is supposed to be SCORPION, lol.

Classic Venom with Eddie Brock will be the alternate costume you can be sure. Gargan is so much more bad*** than Brock ever was with the symbiote. He is far more powerful than Brock's Venom and you can be sure that the symbiote will NEVER want to leave Gargan.

[Previsionary]

And I know they're using the Venom from the newer comics, with Mac Gargan, but dammit, give me the classic stuff any day over anything modern. Mac Gargan is supposed to be SCORPION, lol.

Classic Venom with Eddie Brock will be the alternate costume you can be sure. Gargan is so much more bad*** than Brock ever was with the symbiote. He is far more powerful than Brock's Venom and you can be sure that the symbiote will NEVER want to leave Gargan.

Is this sarcasm? The symbiote dislikes Gargan and he's still kind of pathetic even with the symbiote. It wasn't until recently that he even got a little tougher with it.

Anyway, as far as costumes go, it seems raven/activision haven't learned much since their XML1 days. Those extra costumes they designed for a few characters sucked as well (Psylocke).

[captmorgan72]

Nope, it wasn't sarcasm. Since when does the symbiote hate Gargan? Gargan is the perfect host for it. Mac is more powerful than even Spidey and is easy to control. Gargan is always struggling to control the symbiote and fears it but doesn't want to lose it. He is very addicted to it. So the symbiote has the most powerful and easy to control host it has ever possessed. Why would it hate a host like that? Also, Mac being pathetic is just the product of bad writing. He's not stupid, he's a skilled detective and that beats a reporter like Brock was. I prefer Mac's Venom over Brock's. He meaner, tougher and he looks kinda like a Rancor...how cool is that?

[Previsionary]

I clearly remember a scene either in Spider-man or T-bolts where this was pointed out to a degree and in fact, the last time Brock was around, the symbiote LEFT Gargan mid-battle to re-bond with him. Even when Brock was knocked out, the symbiote protects him. So yeah, given a choice between Eddie and Gargan, it's clear that the symbiote will choose its former boss like it typically does.

[BWPS]

Will Spider-Man be Iron Spider on the Pro team? Or will Iron be a character at all?

[captmorgan72]

I clearly remember a scene either in Spider-man or T-bolts where this was pointed out to a degree and in fact, the last time Brock was around, the symbiote LEFT Gargan mid-battle to re-bond with him. Even when Brock was knocked out, the symbiote protects him. So yeah, given a choice between Eddie and Gargan, it's clear that the symbiote will choose its former boss like it typically does.

Man, it seems the symbiote is a love sick alien that can't make up it's mind who it wants. Why it would chose Brock over Mac doesn't make sense. Again, more bad writing.

[daerdevil]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who is feeling less than thrilled about this game, lol. Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure it is the hideous designs of the characters and their costumes. Plus, I think my interest in the game reached it's lowest point when I saw one of the bigger trailers several months ago. The video was just really unimpressive and freaking UGLY. Plus, now with Wolverine's stupid looking costume "upgrade" and Venom looking like a Rancor from Star Wars, I just don't see myself wanting to play this game... at least not nearly as much as the first one. Right now, at this point, I'm definitely going to see what the reviews and others say about it before checking it out.

And I know they're using the Venom from the newer comics, with Mac Gargan, but dammit, give me the classic stuff any day over anything modern. Mac Gargan is supposed to be SCORPION, lol.

I'm feeling the same reservations.  I'm waiting for the reviews and feedback on the "features" before plunking down money on this one.  It's seems silly, but those costumes are a "make it or break it" deal for me.  I'm not sure why these companies seem hell bent on redesigning characters, when they have tons of existing material to draw from.  I also don't see why it's so hard to include alternate costumes.  The PS1 version of Spiderman even had 10 alternate costumes.  It seems like a no brainer to me...XML1 had minimum costumes, people complained; XBL2 had more costumes, people rejoiced; MUA had 4 costumes per character, and it was perfect; MUA2 has some lame redesigns, and maybe an extra costume = step backward.  The fact that they are stating "at least one additional costume", leads me to believe we will be getting an alternate, more goofy costume in lieu of the "classic".   Yeah, I'll wait on this one, and probably pick up Arkham instead.

[Tomato]

MUA had 4 costumes per character, and it was perfect; MUA2 has some lame redesigns, and maybe an extra costume = step backward.  The fact that they are stating "at least one additional costume", leads me to believe we will be getting an alternate, more goofy costume in lieu of the "classic". 

Firstly, I strongly disagree with the MUA "perfect" statement. By making every character have 4 costumes, they boxed themselves in... Characters like Wolverine were limited to what I would consider an inadequate selection (no classic Wolverine, no leather jacket Wolverine, no AoA... etc.) whereas others felt like they'd been stretched out to get three to four costumes(Silver Surfer, anyone?)... it was a mess. Given the choice, I'd prefer XMLII's sort of random "these costumes fit the characters, so we'll include them."

This is also why "at least one" doesn't actually sit as badly with me... it indicates that all characters will at least have a choice, and they aren't going to give any arbitrary costume amount like last time.

That being said... I would hate to think of the "accidents" that will occur if they mess up Brown Wolverine or Classic Wolverine like they did Astonishing.

[lugaru]

I really hope they use the "costumes as alternate characters" such as Iron Man as War Machine, Cap as US Agent, Thor as Beta Ray Bill and so on. You could have Iron Fist as Shang Chi, Elektra as Echo, Power Man as Doc Sampson, Doc Strange as Doctor Druid or Sentry as Hyperion.

[daerdevil]

Good point about the arbitrary 4 slots (I should know better than use such absolutes like "perfect", but it beats having some characters (Rogue in the 1st XML comes to mind) completely neglected.  I just worry about Wolverine getting the standard wife beater as his "at least one" costume.  And for the record, The Silver Surfer should have at least gotten some Hawaiian print shorts in MUA 

[Courtnall6]

If they do only release only one alternate costume design per character...they will most likely make us pay for more alternates as a DLC. They've already stated that new characters will be in future DLCs.