MUA 2

[gengoro]

If they do only release only one alternate costume design per character...they will most likely make us pay for more alternates as a DLC. They've already stated that new characters will be in future DLCs.

Sadly that is a likely scenario and a scary trend that has been growing this console generation. 

[captmorgan72]

I hate to say this but Cap's "real world" costume is growing on me. http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14233938/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2/images/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2-20090601081140586.html

[Courtnall6]

Nope. Cap's look does not work for me at all. Like Tomato said about these designs impeding combat...Cap's design is way too heavy and bulky looking for a world class athlete. Also...he has a shield for pete's sake...does he really need all that body armour?

[deano_ue]

does he really need all that body armour?

don't think he would have turned it down

[BWPS]

does he really need all that body armour?

don't think he would have turned it down

[Previsionary]

*smacks TUE* NO!

Anyway, if you guys care, Civil War Online has been up for a few days. Consider it a simple multiplayer based strategy game with some Marvel characters. Tis pretty entertaining, but it's not perfect. Of course, it is constantly being updated and it is free, so there's that.

[Courtnall6]

does he really need all that body armour?

don't think he would have turned it down

He shouldn't have been in that position to begin with.

[murs47]

He shouldn't have been in that position to begin with.

Why not?

[captmorgan72]

I think that C6 meant that he should not have surrendered. Surely Steve must have known that his enemies would take advantage of the situation and make a move to kill him when he was vulnerable. Thankfully, we will get to see what would have happen if he didn't surrender in MUA2.

[NeoDarke]

I think that C6 meant that he should not have surrendered. Surely Steve must have known that his enemies would take advantage of the situation and make a move to kill him when he was vulnerable. Thankfully, we will get to see what would have happen if he didn't surrender in MUA2.

I'd would have rather seen what would have happened if someone was sane enough to call BS to the whole Pro/Anti-SHRA, and then state that he will continue to do what Heroes are supposed to do in the first place. Protect and save lives, and not hunt each other down like wild animals. Granted, the fact that by donning the mask in the first place, they are breaking the law and should answer for it is valid in anyway, shape, or form. But half the time that seems to depend on what light the media is shining on said person in the first place. I.E. Batman wears a mask and seemingly breaks the law every "Day", Spider-Man however wears a mask, breaks slightly less laws, but catches more grief for it.


Sorry, dead horse I know, but the SHRA* left a bad taste in my mouth. Won't stop me from buying MUA2 however.


*And don't even get me started on the OMD/BND train wreck. 

[Courtnall6]

He shouldn't have been in that position to begin with.

Why not?

Captmorgan and NeoDarke pretty much cover it.

[lugaru]

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Yeah, but Batman and Spider-man live in different universes. In DC they build museums and monuments to heroes on a daily basis, in Marvel heroes have been mistrusted from day one, be it the X-Men or Spidey or Namor.

[NeoDarke]

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Yeah, but Batman and Spider-man live in different universes. In DC they build museums and monuments to heroes on a daily basis, in Marvel heroes have been mistrusted from day one, be it the X-Men or Spidey or Namor.

Does it still change who has the highest criminal record out of the two? Main reason I went with those two, is depending on the times those two are often the flagship character of their respected universes.

[lugaru]

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Yeah, but Batman and Spider-man live in different universes. In DC they build museums and monuments to heroes on a daily basis, in Marvel heroes have been mistrusted from day one, be it the X-Men or Spidey or Namor.

Does it still change who has the highest criminal record out of the two? Main reason I went with those two, is depending on the times those two are often the flagship character of their respected universes.

Oh it is like I said, public attitude in the two universes is very different, one of the main ones is that in Marvel there have always been villains who fight with crazy outfits but heroes have always had another nemesis in civilians with power who can manipulate public perception. Batman has been framed for a couple of murders but spidey has enemies in the press, the x-men have had enemies in congress and religious fundamentalists and the avengers have had to answer to the united nations and federal government. Civil war was just taking things a step further and painting an even darker line between Marvel and DC, which is not bad because it diversifies the market, I can get a painfully grounded story in The Initiative and a fantastic flight of imagination in All Star Superman.

[Previsionary]

Dunno if you guys still care, but two new characters were announced:

Want to know the newest announced characters, mon ami?

That?s right?your favorite card-wielding Cajun, Gambit, is making his debut into the largest army of Super Heroes. Evildoers and haters of suave foreign accents, beware.

Along with this bo-staff-rocking gent, we have a sultry, yet ridiculously powerful, heroine also making her foray into the alliance: the red-haired telekinetic powerhouse, Jean Grey.

[Tomato]

Gambit looks... ew. Face work in general is horrid.

Edit: Correcton, his whole look is horrid. Why did they feel the need to give him a red collar?

[Talavar]

More X-men that already appeared in both X-men Legends games, how novel.

[Courtnall6]

I've been looking forward to this game less and less.

[Tomato]

See, I'm looking forward to this in the same way I do with most comic games... yeah, I'll probably play it, but only because I am such a huge nerd I cannot stop myself. Which is sad, really, because this was once the series I had the most love for. For all three games before this I kept up with every single new character. Heck, I remember when Xavier was announced, they had that lame video with him following Allyson around the mansion, I remember the EPIC FANBOY RAGE when the MUA people wouldn't show the Classic Cap outfit (which was kinda silly, we all knew they'd put that one in), I remember cheering when I discovered XMLII actually allowed you to go back and pick up stuff you missed.

They did so much RIGHT with this series, from the designs right down to the leveling system... it's a shame to see it go down the road it's on.

[captmorgan72]

I agree with C6. I was so looking forward to this game when it was announced but from what I have seen so far...

[gengoro]

I agree, they really didnt need to add more x-men. Im pretty sure it was due to the recent Wolverine movie and X3.  What they need are more Avengers like HAWKEYE. He would be perfect for this game.  I have a feeling though, that they will save a lot of characters for DLC.

[TheMarvell]

I agree, they really didnt need to add more x-men. Im pretty sure it was due to the recent Wolverine movie and X3.  What they need are more Avengers like HAWKEYE. He would be perfect for this game.  I have a feeling though, that they will save a lot of characters for DLC.

Agreed. DLC will be the bane of games like this. They'll release half of the roster for retail release, and save the rest for DLC. Even worse, as evidenced in some recent games like Street Fighter 4 and RE5, the content will already be on the disc, but you have to pay to unlock it. If MUA 2 does this, I simply will not buy it. It's complete bull**** when games do this and I refuse to support it.

And the two new announcements really has me even less interested in this game, unfortunately. I mean really...yay, more X-Men, whoopdie doo. Gambit's a fan favorite, so I can understand including him, but why Jean Grey? They might as well get it overwith and announce Night Crawler and Cyclops too. You know it's coming.

Sometimes I wish they'd just make an X-Men Legends 3 so they can include all the X-Men characters they clearly want to include. MUA should include maybe 4 X-Men tops.

[Tomato]

Meh... As much as I agree that really, these weren't the two to include (though, to be fair, Phoenix does add a little additional fun due to her TK.) I really think this X-men hate is unfounded... even if we get Nightcrawler and Cyclops (and I think at least the latter will be DLC), we haven't really gotten overboard yet, especially when you consider that X-men make up most of the Marvel U AND rake in a significant portion of Marvel's profits in general.

Seriously, chill.

[BWPS]

I hope they have Sentry in this game, that'd be a ton of fun!

[tommyboy]

.....especially when you consider that X-men make up most of the Marvel U

um....no they don't.

AND rake in a significant portion of Marvel's profits in general.

However, this is true.
For my part, though I am bored by the xmen, I have no real problem with them being in a Marvel Universe game.
They are in the MU, so they should be in the game.
I hope the roster will be Wolverine, Wolverine's son, Wolverine-girl, Dark Wolverine, Patch, Secret Wolverine, and Ted Wolverine, Wolverine's brother in law. You can never have too much Wolverine
Cap's costume looks like a slightly overweight man in a poorly made Captain America costume designed by someone with only a passing acquaintance with the character. It reeks of that particular sort of "realism" in vogue at Marvel of late. But again, if people didn't buy comics with be-pouched characters in, they wouldn't keep making them. So it's all your faults *jabs finger wildly at rest of world*

[TheMarvell]

I don't think anyone is upset that they're including X-Men characters. For me anyways, it's more along the lines of being bored with them because they've been included in so many games of this type now. If it comes down to using a lesser known or used Marvel character vs another X-Men character we've always seen, then I'd like to see something new. An X-Men DLC character pack would be cool later down the line (only if it's actually new and I'm not just paying to unlock the content already there). Really, I love X-Men like anyone else here, but sometimes it seems like they make up half the roster. 

[murs47]

Here, with the crowd on the edges of their seats, the games newest playable character was revealed. With a full trailer showcasing him in action, the crowd roared at the revelation of the fallen New Warrior, Penance.

Skolnick described the decision for the former Speedball?s inclusion as only logical, since his evolution into Penance and the path that led there is a story at the very heart of the Civil War. Skolnick thought it worked both thematically and narratively, but the playability and allowance for fusion was also a big factor in the decision. Lastly, he included, Penance just looks cool.

Looks like Penance(Speedball) is in.


http://www.newsarama.com/games/070925-sdcc-MUA2.html <---- rest of the article

[Glitch Girl]

Just out of curiosity, how many people here have played X-Men Legends 2 as well as the first MUA?  (I'm not counting XL1 since the difference between it and XL2 was pretty drastic, whereas the differences between XL2 and MUA are less pronounced)

Graphic rendering quality aside, do you see the series as improving, staying about the same, or declining and what does this indicate for MUA2 production wise?   

[Tomato]

Just out of curiosity, how many people here have played X-Men Legends 2 as well as the first MUA?  (I'm not counting XL1 since the difference between it and XL2 was pretty drastic, whereas the differences between XL2 and MUA are less pronounced)

Graphic rendering quality aside, do you see the series as improving, staying about the same, or declining and what does this indicate for MUA2 production wise?   

Depends. In terms of playability, some things were better, some worse. MUA tried to use some techniques to enhance gameplay, some of which failed pretty badly (that horrible button system for the bosses and bombs) and some of which actually did add to the game (like the sub-quests which impact how the game ends, some of which were easily missed... I missed the Legacy Virus thing my first run through.) Plus, MUA felt more epic then XMLII did, despite both having the whole world in danger.

So yeah, I'd say MUA was slightly better... and, in some respects, I do think MUA2 will be (with the fusion system and all). But as an artist and a fan, I have to say... I just cannot get past some of the designs.

[Talavar]

I've played both X-men Legends & MUA, and while I think the series has largely improved, each game has had its own problems as well.  I also hated the quicktime events in MUA, and hope they die horribly (though they're probably in MUA2, since every console game seems to have them now).