Suicide Squad - The movie

[thalaw2]

It seems that WB is going full production with a movie version of the Suicide Squad starring none other than Will Smith...and a cast of other people who have little to do with Arrow.  Why is it that cast of Arrow can't be used in the big production?  Is there a track record that proves that small screen actors can't play the same role on the big screen?  It worked for the original Star Trek movies to keep the original cast...right?

Full article

[Tomato]

I think it's out of a perverse desire to keep good actors who are already familiar with the roles from portraying popular characters.

Also, am I the only one going wtf from the fact that Joker is apparently in the Suicide Squad?

[crimsonquill]

Also, am I the only one going wtf from the fact that Joker is apparently in the Suicide Squad?

I'm thinking more of them having Joker starting there in flashbacks with Harley Quinn and then using him in the Batman/Justice League movies if he knocks it out of the park with his performance.

- CQ

[Starman]

Why is it that cast of Arrow can't be used in the big production?

I've watched Arrow from the start and I couldn't tell you the name of the actor who plays Deadshot.

Casting name actors for big budget films is just part of the movie biz.

That said ... Ostrander's Suicide Squad is my favourite DC comic run, and this film doesn't really interest me. I don't like any of the actors (and model), generally, and I don't like them for the roles they are playing. Will Smith is getting a bit long in the tooth for Deadshot, and his casting would indicate Deadshot is the central character. Snore. I don't think director David Ayer has ever worked on a film which hasn't suffered serious flaws. I rolled my eyes a lot during "Fury". And if Oprah is cast as Amanda Waller ... yeeeesh. I think Oprah could potentially do a great Waller, but there is no way I see her allowing herself to play such a ruthless role unless it is watered down.

My ideal cast would have been something like:

Deadshot - Vincent Piazza
The Joker - Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Rick Flag - Jai Courtney
Captain Boomerang - Bryan Brown
Harley Quinn - Margot Robbie if you want to go sexy, Ksenia Solo if you want to do the impish, clothed version
Enchantress - Eva Green
Count Vertigo - Mads Mikkelsen
Bronze Tiger - Wesley Snipes (if he can still handle action scenes)
Waller - CCH Pounder

With cameos from Jesse Eisenberg as Luthor, Will Smith as Black Manta, Dwayne Johnson as Black Adam and some monkey as Grodd

[thalaw2]

Cicely Tyson would be my ideal Amanda Waller.  She still looks good at 80 years old and I'm sure she could act the part. 

Like Starman I'm not excited about this movie.  I like Will Smith, but I can't help feeling that he's out of place as Deadshot.  That said, Janet Hubert would make an excellent Amanda Waller too.

I never read much of the Suicide Squad stories and I'm mostly familiar with them through Arrow.  The actors in the series did a good job and those were some of my favorite episodes.

[SickAlice]

Really playing up the most common marketability angles here but that's not out of place. Really no interest peaked here either at this point and sad since I really enjoy SS and the characters in the roster.

[GhostMachine]

Ksenia Solo works period for Harley. So I like Starman's suggestion. Also like the idea of Bryan Brown as Captain Boomerang.

I do not think using the Joker in the movie is a good idea, unless he's the big bad they're going after. Because you just know that he'll turn on them asap if he's on the team.

[Podmark]

This is interesting but I'm not that excited yet.
I'm really curious about Will Smith as Deadshot. Doesn't really seem like a Will Smith character, but maybe I'm just thinking about his more comedic roles.
I actually like the potential of the Joker being in it. Could add a little extra to the story, but it all depends on how they play it.

Starman I like your casting. It would be especially neat to see Gordon-Levitt as Joker.

[BWPS]

I'm really excited about this one even though it's DC. I do hope Joker isn't on the squad but rather the antagonist.

[bat1987]

It would be especially neat to see Gordon-Levitt as Joker.

Agreed, always thought he could have been a good replacement for Heath Ledger in DKR. Good casting choice for the most part. Like most, not sure about Will as Deadshot.  I get the inclusion of The Joker, you need a big name villain in there to generate interest. Very risky movie to be made all in all, looking forward to seeing how they look. Agreed with Starman that CCH Pounder would be perfect Amanda.

As for Oprah

Spoiler

[laughing paradox]

I'm cautiously interested in this incarnation of the Suicide Squad.

I hope they really take a lot of the thematic source from Ostrander's run, but I'm certain it will be Nu52 inspired. *sigh*

The choice of including Enchantress onto the roster has kind of blown me away, in a good way.

[SickAlice]

I was thinking the same thing about the Joker. Above all else they're definitely working the core concept which is villains having to do the work of good guys albeit the dirty jobs. The problem of course is not many of DC's bad guys have actual been established to the world audiences in the current cinematic timeline and of those not many who would work in the position. And they need a known face in there lest the audience, most of whom do not read comics ends up with a " Who? " running across their face. It's out of place from my perspective but like yourselves as a comic enthusiast nearly every superhero based movie always contains proponents that are. The thing that makes me a little " eh " about it is the aforementioned marketability angles I see. Which is mainly the specific cast. That cast to me represents two things: The kind of names that grab headlines and will make people talk about the film, not because of what the film is about or what it's based on but because most of these stars are talked about people (Smith a gross example really) and the other is sexiness, going for the sleek and attractive design which works both the approval ratings as well the merchandise aesthetic of course. My experience is that the harder those angles are driven the more likely we see a flimsy story and production at game time. That's what kind of put's me in a bad frame of mind about it. Not that I'd rather it dismissed either. The more superhero entities that make it into households the better for the brand and thus the craft I say, regardless of how shoddy it's handled and in the end that will only contribute to the longevity of the original art form I adore.

[Glitch Girl]

Looks like Viola Davis is the front runner for Waller now.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57846

[Midnite]

Spoiler

Someone made a gif from the 3 stills. Creepy 

[Midnite]

From David Ayer

The Suicide Squad wishes you a Happy Anniversary Mr. J! #Joker75 #SuicideSquad @WarnerBrosEnt @DCComics

Edit:
Zack Snyder tweeted this:

Ha ha ha, the joke's on you Batman... #cryptic #75th

Looks like this photo is for Joker's 75th anniversary. So it's not the official look for Suicide Squad.

Spoiler

[Tomato]

...

Yeah, OK, that's pretty cool. I wasn't caring for some of the teasers up to now, but that looks OK.

[BentonGrey]

Are you kidding me? 

[Midnite]

Let's just wait and see. This could be a promo for Joker's 75th. The only thing we can take from this, is the shade of green hair and perma white skin.

[crimsonquill]

Let's just wait and see. This could be a promo for Joker's 75th. The only thing we can take from this, is the shade of green hair and perma white skin.

The photo WAS posted by the DC Production team for the Joker's 75th Anniversary (they even stated as such in the twitter post that the photo appeared with) but almost everyone instantly ran with that photo as the Suicide Squad Joker reveal because it was from David Ayer (Director of Suicide Squad). I'm pretty sure it was just testing ideas for Jokers look in the makeup trailer and they decided to go for the extreme for the anniversary tease just to watch everyone on twitter freak out.

Here is the actual text of the twitter post:

The Suicide Squad wishes you a Happy Anniversary Mr. J! #Joker75 #SuicideSquad @WarnerBrosEnt @DCComics

- CQ

[Tomato]

I mean... does it really matter? Not to be mean, but what's important here is the face, since 90% of the rest is probably going to be covered up by whatever outfit he's in anyway. If I'm bothered by anything, it's that stupid all white suit you can see him wearing in the camera shots... it was stupid looking in TDKR, it's stupid here too. Give the man some damn purple!

But yeah, based on the face alone... probably the closest live action Joker has been to the comics ever. I love that hair.

[BWPS]

It says "damaged" on his forehead. It definitely matters and it's definitely stupid. I don't mind them doing something different, but this Juggalo thing is so lame.

[crimsonquill]

Must I remind everyone that while people are crying "FOUL! WRONG! It's a Juggalo!" that those tattoos are just drawn on or applied stencil work that can be removed or changed once they start filming actual scenes.. AND NOT PERMANENTLY TATTOOED ON LETO'S BODY FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE!

*deep sigh*

I have not seen this much freaking out over weird makeup since folks started staying that Heath Ledger looked like he applied his Joker makeup in the dark and used crummy spray coloring on his hair... Oh wait.

and it's not like Joker has never had Tattoos before in the comic version either..



I'm just thinking IF Joker had tattoos would he be vein enough or crazy enough in his years stuck in Arkham after Batman retired to just go all fan boy just to relish all of the artistic versions of his legacy that might be shown in street art, comics, and the media. After all Joker in The Dark Knight Returns just loved his former fame as a villain before he lost everything he enjoyed by taunting his arch-enemy.

- CQ

[BWPS]

Looks like the tattoos will not be in the movie. I'd like to give a big thanks to all the people who created a backlash against the horrible idea, myself included, for making them change it.

[Tomato]

Source for that BWPS? I can't find any articles to corroborate.

Also, CQ... not that I'm opposed to your point of view (I agree that this whole thing smells of Heath Ledger hate all over again, and people need to calm down), but perhaps pointing out a version of the Joker that looks and acts nothing like he does in any other book, in a series universally panned by critics, doesn't help your case very much.

[BWPS]

http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/04/26/calm-down-the-joker-will-not-have-tattoos-in-suicide-squad-2887773?lt_source=external,manual,manual,share_fb,manual,manual,manual

[Tomato]

Coolio. While I didn't mind them, it was a bit much.

But seriously though, Suicide Squad guys? PURPLE. SUIT.

[BentonGrey]

Yeah, I'd say the reactions were pretty well justified because of 1) how incredibly stupid and desperately "edgy" the design was, 2) how indicative such would be of what we have seen and continue to see from DC movies, and 3) the quality and faithfulness (or lack thereof) of the previous DC productions.  Marvel has earned the benefit of the doubt like crazy-go-nuts, but DC, or rather WB, has me quite ready to believe any such bad ideas.

[Midnite]

Meet the Suicide Squad!

(from left to right) Adam Beach (Slipknot), Jai Courtney (Boomerang), Karen Fukuhara (Katana), Cara Delevingne (Enchantress), Joel Kinnaman (Rick Flag – with ONE 'g'), Margot Robbie (Harley Quinn), Will Smith (Deadshot), Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (Killer Croc) and Jay Hernandez (El Diablo)

[BentonGrey]

Well that's...disappointing.  Katana and Croc (to a lesser extent) are the only ones who are even vaguely recognizable.  Also, Will Smith as Deadshot?  Really?  I love Will Smith, but I can't think of too many characters who he seems like a worse fit for.  I think he'd make a really good Mr. Terrific II. 

[HarryTrotter]

Boomerang is another former cast member of Spartacus.Is that a theme now?