The Marvel Thread

[HarryTrotter]

Ext X-men: I see Apocalypse has been playing some Sim-city.Or maybe Dungeon Keeper.
New Avengers: I got a feeling Larry,Agent of AiM is gonna be a mini-series one of these days.Some familiar faces return.And a giant robot fights a kaiju.

[HarryTrotter]

https://mobile.twitter.com/BenJMorse/status/723603974797033473
Somebody returns in Standoff: Omega.Richard Rider?Captain Mar-vell?Genis-vell,going by the Thunderbolts theme?That would be tricky,thou...

[Talavar]

https://mobile.twitter.com/BenJMorse/status/723603974797033473
Somebody returns in Standoff: Omega.Richard Rider?Captain Mar-vell?Genis-vell,going by the Thunderbolts theme?That would be tricky,thou...

As much as I wish it was Richie Rider, it doesn't look like the Nova corps symbol.

[HarryTrotter]

Standoff is over.

Spoiler

It was Wendell Waughn.But hes there just to pass on his powers.Don't get too excited.
Red Skull decided to be a more classical terrorist.Bully for him,I guess.

In the end it was an okay event,from the pieces I did read.
Thunderbolts #1 next month.I wish I could say I was optimistic,but I really cant. 

[HarryTrotter]

The whole Mosaic.Its a head.

[Talavar]

Whose head though?

[HarryTrotter]

Whose head though?

Mosaics?My theory is that its a characters name.

[HarryTrotter]

Empress #2 Hey look,mini Lando. 
X-men 92 #3 Council of multiversal Draculas.Thats pretty cool.
Punisher #1 If your familiar with Steve Dillons work on Punisher,you know what to expect.Thou its only 1 scene and Punisher is barely in it,so I cant really form an opinion.
Thunderbolts #1 Its like somebody dusted off an issues from 1992 and put it in print.I have to hand it to Malin,he can ape Rob Liefeld perfectly.Sadly,thats the best thing I can say about his artwork.Story isnt that much better either,They fight Shield agents in green armors to find some intel.Then there are some Inhuman cocoons(?) and Kobik kills a team member.Well,probably not... So in general 

[Silver Shocker]

So I'm not going to the shop until the weekend since that Free Comic Book Day, so I haven't actually read T-Bolts yet, but...

Inhumans...in My T-Bolts? It's more likely than you think!
I'm hoping they swap out Malin for somebody else, just about anybody else, as soon as they do most other books, because what I've seen just isn't appealing at all.
Really hope they didn't just kill an original T-Bolts character in the first issue (no, I don't know who it is, and there's no way in heck I'm looking it up before I read the issue). Talk about getting off on the wrong foot. Well, Fixer got trapped in a time loop in Parker's run and he came back from that so hopefully it won't stick.

[HarryTrotter]

Well its either Inhuman cocoons,or the (God)Zilla eggs left from the 1998 movie. 
I think the person in question survived.Not exactly a great start.
Btw,they have Mark Bagley around,why isnt he drawing this?
New Avengers #11 New New Avengers?There is this solitary issue between Standoff and Civil War 2.1 issue between 2 events.Seriously?

[Silver Shocker]

No, it's more Inhuman B.S. they outright say it in later solicits.
Re: Bagley: Apparently they didn't want the Thunderbolts comic with a nostalgic roster to git gud.
Re: New Avengers: In all fairness, the Standoff issues didn't have that much to do with Standoff. They were mostly moving the New Avengers along, so I'm actually kinda ok about it. They needed to get back to Wiccan and co eventually anyway.

[HarryTrotter]

It was more of a comment on how often events happen.And since when is Scarlet Witch all New Age and super relaxed? XD
Getting real sick of Inhumans now.Other heroes in the MU seemed to have accepted them suprisingly well.Considering the whole thing with eugenics,caste system and slavery.

[JeyNyce]

Just finish reading Amazing Spider-man and here is what I figured out:

Civil War 1 happen and Peter helped Tony create the Iron Spider suit
Tony doesn't know that Peter is Spider-man, in fact the only person who knows is MJ
Tony Stark has heard of Peter, but doesn't know him personally

So this is how Marvel is cleaning up One More Day and Civil War

A quick video review of the book:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rffZ0jM1kX4

[kkhohoho]

Just finish reading Amazing Spider-man and here is what I figured out:

Civil War 1 happen and Peter helped Tony create the Iron Spider suit
Tony doesn't know that Peter is Spider-man, in fact the only person who knows is MJ
Tony Stark has heard of Peter, but doesn't know him personally

So this is how Marvel is cleaning up One More Day and Civil War

A quick video review of the book:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rffZ0jM1kX4

The only way they can clean up Civil War and One More Day is to nuke them off the face of the Earth. It's the only way to be sure.

[HarryTrotter]

Did One More Day happen?Im confused.

[GhostMachine]

Both One More Day and Sins Past need to be undone/never acknowledged.

[Tomato]

See, I actually was under the impression that the ONE good thing OMD did was retcon Sins Past out of continuity until recently. But nope, they brought up Gabriel in a post Dark Avengers storyline, so it's still completely canon 

What bothers me about that most is that, there's SUCH an easy fix here that lets writers expunge the icky topic of Osborn and Gwen having kids, without removing the fundamental conflict Gabriel represents. We know Osborn was involved with Miles Warren, and that he was the one responsible for the Clone saga. Now, he had access to Gwen's DNA because of Warren, so what if the whole "Oh yeah, I banged your old girlfriend" was something he had on the backburner, just to mess with Peter's mind. Gabriel is still Norman and Gwen's son, at least in terms of DNA, but it would explain why he and his sister had rapidly aged, AND still permanently removed the implication that Gwen would have EVER slept with Norman Osborn.

As for OMD... I don't want that story ignored, because I feel like that's the lazy option, and that's what we're doing anyway. What I'd like to see, if we're not going to outdo it outright, is to have it acknowledged and dealt with properly. No story, however awful, is unsalvageable. A good writer can take something stupid and make something good out of it. What *I* want is for Peter to take proper responsibility for the deal he made.

[Silver Shocker]

There was a visual gag on the cover of the latest Spider-Man/Deadpool, #4, where they're at a restaurant and Spidey's got a note on the table: "call me: 555-0666". Now there is a good reason for that in the story, but when I first saw that I thought it was a joke about One More Day.

I'd rather see it dealt with in the comics too.  Preferably written by just about anyone other than Dan Slott or Joe Quesada. The problem I have is they like to do this thing where they refuse to do the story everyone wants them to tell for years, then when they do decide to do it, they exploit that by trumpeting it as a big event as if they ever cared what the fans wanted. They did it with One Moment in Time, they did it with Renew Your Vows, they did it with the arc of Bendis' Guardians of the Galaxy that showed what happened after Thanos Imperative, and DC did it with Stephanie Brown aka Spoiler.

[GhostMachine]

See, I actually was under the impression that the ONE good thing OMD did was retcon Sins Past out of continuity until recently. But nope, they brought up Gabriel in a post Dark Avengers storyline, so it's still completely canon 

What bothers me about that most is that, there's SUCH an easy fix here that lets writers expunge the icky topic of Osborn and Gwen having kids, without removing the fundamental conflict Gabriel represents. We know Osborn was involved with Miles Warren, and that he was the one responsible for the Clone saga. Now, he had access to Gwen's DNA because of Warren, so what if the whole "Oh yeah, I banged your old girlfriend" was something he had on the backburner, just to mess with Peter's mind. Gabriel is still Norman and Gwen's son, at least in terms of DNA, but it would explain why he and his sister had rapidly aged, AND still permanently removed the implication that Gwen would have EVER slept with Norman Osborn.

As for OMD... I don't want that story ignored, because I feel like that's the lazy option, and that's what we're doing anyway. What I'd like to see, if we're not going to outdo it outright, is to have it acknowledged and dealt with properly. No story, however awful, is unsalvageable. A good writer can take something stupid and make something good out of it. What *I* want is for Peter to take proper responsibility for the deal he made.

No, I want Sins Past ignored, not explained away or retconned out. Sins Past actually takes some retconning to even be viable, because JMS has no sense of how time passes in comics. When Gwen went away, she was actually gone for a short period of time - something like a few weeks - not long enough to have conceived and given birth to children. Also, the whole thing creates two problems: 1. It gives more motivation for Norman having killed Gwen, when none was needed. and 2. It makes Gwen a heck of a lot less of a sympathetic character.

If they do have to have it in continuity, then yes, I'd like it explained away with it not actually being Gwen....and with both twins being killed off, if they haven't been already.

[Tomato]

Except they aren't ignoring it. They brought Gabriel (the male twin) back and gave him this weird jekyll and hyde thing, where he would do stuff like kidnap Harry as the Gray Goblin, but then freed him as American Son... basically making him the new Harry Osborn while the actual Harry is on the straight and narrow working for Parker industries. It's not awful, in and of itself... it's just that it does mean Sins Past is still technically canon, which is frustrating. Again, my preferred solution is to make it all a revenge plot by Norman... Explain the two away as clones made from Norman and Gwen's DNA (and the rest of it as Norman messing with Peter), so writers can have their "forgotten son of Norman Osborn" cake and the rest of us can all stop thinking of Norman and Gwen producing kids.

[HarryTrotter]

Actually,JMS operated on some weird meta timeline in which 50 years did pass,but Peter never aged.Or thats the feeling I got.
His run started really good,but went downhill more and more.And the September 11 issue...

[HarryTrotter]

http://www.comicsbeat.com/marvel-goes-on-mutant-kill-spree-promising-not-a-dry-eye-in-the-house/
Variant covers are all the rage these days.Ones for Death of X feature X-men being killed.Like,Nightcrawler is being burned at a stake.Lovely...

Remember that FCDB CW2 leak thing?It was the real thing.100% the real thing.Bendis. 

[Silver Shocker]

Yep, I got it on FCBD and read it. At least the art was pretty, but then it's Jim Cheung. He can phone it in (and I think he did) and the end result will still be in excess of 99% of Marvel's artistic output these days. I'll be honest, by the time I read the actual comic I kinda forgot what some of the things we already decided were stupid were.

The Wasp story was fine for what it was. The art was by Alan Davis, can't complain there. It's was a tease of course, not much of a story.

Didn't get the Spidey/Cap book cuz they were all out. Read spoilers online. Meh.

[HarryTrotter]

^Jackal is back?Again?Hes probably the one "reviving" people.And Slott does like him.

Honestly I thought there will be a last minut script change in CW2 prologue.

[Silver Shocker]

Why would there be? I don't think they have a tendency to do that. The only instance I can recall is an issue of Abnett and Lanning's Nova featuring the Thunderbolts, which had a small dialogue change between the preview and the released issue. I did like the change though.

See, Marvel's always stood by Bendis and let him do what he wants, see, it's not a "bug", it's a "feature". Changing the story would an admission that Bendis' work was bad.

Except they aren't ignoring it. They brought Gabriel (the male twin) back and gave him this weird jekyll and hyde thing, where he would do stuff like kidnap Harry as the Gray Goblin, but then freed him as American Son... basically making him the new Harry Osborn while the actual Harry is on the straight and narrow working for Parker industries. It's not awful, in and of itself... it's just that it does mean Sins Past is still technically canon, which is frustrating.

While that is true, that story came out in 2010, and to my knowledge Gabriel hasn't made so much as a cameo since. That sounds like ignoring it to me.

[HarryTrotter]

Well,it was leaked,so I expected some script changes because of that.Just to mess with the readers.But I guess it wouldnt matter anyway.
-Spirits of my ancestors,let me not barf in my mask.
-Son of a...
And why does everyone writen by Bendis sound the same?

[kkhohoho]

Well,it was leaked,so I expected some script changes because of that.Just to mess with the readers.But I guess it wouldnt matter anyway.
-Spirits of my ancestors,let me not barf in my mask.
-Son of a...
And why does everyone writen by Bendis sound the same?

Apparently, he won't write down so much as a single sentence unless it 'rolls on the tongue.' If if this means that he won't write characters unless they sound exactly the same, than I guess it make sense.

[HarryTrotter]

Doesnt matter if your a king or Sorcerer Supreme,they all talk "street".Spiderman,Son of Satan,same thing... XD

I rechecked Terror Inc. And Terror did have a metal hand.Cant believe I forgot the whole series...

[daglob]

Doesn't matter if you're a king or Sorcerer Supreme,they all talk "street". Spiderman,Son of Satan,same thing... XD

That makes them edgy and "cool".  If you believe that, I have some swampland you will be interested in, and a beautiful bridge...

[HarryTrotter]

Doesn't matter if you're a king or Sorcerer Supreme,they all talk "street". Spiderman,Son of Satan,same thing... XD

That makes them edgy and "cool".  If you believe that, I have some swampland you will be interested in, and a beautiful bridge...

To me,it makes them all look like the same person wearing different costumes,but okay...Im not a comic book writer,what do I know...