Green Lantern: Blackest Night ***SPOILERS***

[Trelau]

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hum...i though someone said that we were gonna have proof that Guy was right to believe he was the best lantern...what happened to that idea? i had also made the comment that Hal had own almost all ring at one time (green since forever, yellow during the sinestro corp war, red forced on him by atrocitus, blue given by saint walker to free him from red, and orange when he grabbed agent orange lantern) and was in a good position to became the/a white lantern. but sinestro? why him?

[daglob]

Because in the present mythos, Sinestro WAS the greatest GL before Hal Jordan. EVERYTHING he has done has been for the good of all sentients. The fact that you can't see it is YOUR problem, not his.

I still preferred Tomar Re.

[Trelau]

Thanks for the uncalled for agressivity and the non-use of spoiler banner.

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i'm aware of current-continuity sinestro's story, the all sacrifice of himself to serve others even if it means being a paria thing. the blackest night books even add nice flashback about his losses (best friend, love of his life,etc). i just don't see any build up to him being the representation of "the white light of creation". the writers threw a number of clues in the air (dove not being resurrected because he is "at peace", the new dove being imune to black lanterns, plus the quote about Guy and the events happening to Hal i mentioned before). Maybe this issue will explain why he's chosen, but i kinda doubt it. and even if he is in fact the greatest lantern ever, i always was under the impression that he was portrayed as "tainted" because of his extremism, but maybe that's just my impression

[yell0w_lantern]

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The good guys win Blackest Night and there's a follow up called brightest day. Oh, and dead heroes are brought back but not as zombies.

[murs47]

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The good guys win Blackest Night and there's a follow up called brightest day. Oh, and dead heroes are brought back but not as zombies.

Link or it didn't happen.

[Blkcasanova247]

Thanks for the uncalled for agressivity and the non-use of spoiler banner.

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i'm aware of current-continuity sinestro's story, the all sacrifice of himself to serve others even if it means being a paria thing. the blackest night books even add nice flashback about his losses (best friend, love of his life,etc). i just don't see any build up to him being the representation of "the white light of creation". the writers threw a number of clues in the air (dove not being resurrected because he is "at peace", the new dove being imune to black lanterns, plus the quote about Guy and the events happening to Hal i mentioned before). Maybe this issue will explain why he's chosen, but i kinda doubt it. and even if he is in fact the greatest lantern ever, i always was under the impression that he was portrayed as "tainted" because of his extremism, but maybe that's just my impression

Hey Trelau...I think he was just doing a little "Sinestro" schtick...not being aggressive but Daglob you shoulda used a spoiler.

[Midnite]

Cover spoilers if you haven't read Blackest Night #7

After the events of Blackest Night #7, which came out yesterday, DC reveals  two covers for Green Lantern #52

[daglob]

Embarassed apologies to any and all.

[Trelau]

really none needed, as i arlready said via pm, it's my fault for not seing the second degree here
so let's move on 

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the second cover intrigues me, it looks like he's destroying the two lantern batterie to recharge himself, i wonder if that's how the white light works, by sacrificing/merging the existing colors (wich could provide a good excuse for cleaning up all the new corps and leaving green alone, wich i hope will be the case post-blackest night). it might also be cover-nonsense, so hard to tell if these cover are really meaningfull

[Mystik]

why would you want all the other lanterns gone? atrocious, agent orange, saint walker are some of best new characters created in the past couple years

[Trelau]

probably because i'm a Kyle fan. when i started reading comic books, kyle was the last of the green lantern, that made him "special". then, as time went by and as i got more and more interested in "old" comic books i discovered the originalS green lantern (via JSA and Green Lantern/Green Arrow).
in my mind a green lantern ring is supposed to be the most powerful weapon ever designed (and that's how it's genrally describes), the fact that there's thousands of them floating around is disturbing enough (renegade like sinestro should appear every day; giving nearly limitless power to the closest people who doesn't fear is not a good job interview)
so the return from one lantern to thousands of them was weird at first (it kinda "cheapens" the role of kyle)
but now if they let all the other corps...they would "polute" the dc universe; too many superpowered guys is hard to deal with, and nearly nobody can defeat a lantern.
but it's true that some of the new characters are really compelling, atrocitus and saint walker hace good potential, but i don't see them having any other purpose than dealing with the blackest night. once that's done, they're out of buisness.

[Mystik]

just because Kyle(my fav gl) is not the only gl doesnt mean he's less special, he's the torch bearer he rebuilt what hal destroyed. and there thousands of story capabilities with the new lanterns, johns is already hinting that atrocious might go looking for the red entity after blackest night.

[Podmark]

I'm willing to bet the new Lanterns aren't going anywhere after Blackest Night.

[Bloodshadow]

Gotta agree with Pod here,they're not going anywhere

[The Hitman]

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Solicitations for upcoming months show the "New Guardians" (Artocitus, Larfleeze, et. al.) adjusting to life on Earth, so no, they're staying put, at least for a while.

Also, I'd be surprised if Sinestro keeps the White Lantern power for long. If I read it correctly, he wasn't chosen, he just took the power for himself. Personally? I thinl Johns made quite the stretch to get Dove and the Titans into the fight... I'm betting she's going to be the "chosen" bearer of the Light.

[GhostMachine]

Without quoting your post, I hope you're right about the last part, Hitman.

As for the other colors of Lanterns, except for the Black Lanterns (obviously), I have no problem with them sticking around, because I'm sure most writers will ignore them unless forced to used them. The only Corps I don't mind (besides Green) are the Yellow and Violet (or whatever color the Star Sapphires are), because their existences make the most sense. The Black Lanterns hopefully will be completely wiped out.

[yell0w_lantern]

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Now that Tommy joined the fight, they can form the Mega Zord! So much for all the denials of a white lantern. 

[Zippo]

I think it'd be fairly easy to keep the Blue lanterns and Agent Orange around, as neither corps has many members. The Indigo Tribe could make for some interesting subplots in the future, as they're still fairly mysterious.
The only corps I don't think should be around in much of a capacity are the red lanterns. They just seem like they're way too dangerous to have around in any sort of sizeable capacity and on a regular basis. However, this "new guardians" business might make for a substantially different status quo.

[marhawkman]

Nah, Guy needs to continue as a Red Lantern.  And keep the green Ring too.    He kicks arse as a Red Lantern!  And he doesn't just kill people like most red lanterns.

[BlueBard]

A little treat for Lantern fans over at Evil, Inc:

http://www.evil-comic.com/archive/20100303.html

[Trelau]

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i just read Blackest Night: Wonderwoman 3 today and i wanted to ask you something: does the diana/mera altercation means what i think it means? when the lasso of truth + rings touched mera, we were shown why she hated herself, and i took the background image as meaning Mera's son was in fact not aquaman'son, but black manta's son...that would explain why he kidnapped him back then but...is it even possible? i'm not that familiar with the characters and i wondered if i understood right.

[daglob]

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i just read Blackest Night: Wonderwoman 3 today and i wanted to ask you something: does the diana/mera altercation means what i think it means? when the lasso of truth + rings touched mera, we were shown why she hated herself, and i took the background image as meaning Mera's son was in fact not aquaman'son, but black manta's son...that would explain why he kidnapped him back then but...is it even possible? i'm not that familiar with the characters and i wondered if i understood right.

This is the kind of thing that would make me wonder if I'm better off not reading modern comics.

[BentonGrey]

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i just read Blackest Night: Wonderwoman 3 today and i wanted to ask you something: does the diana/mera altercation means what i think it means? when the lasso of truth + rings touched mera, we were shown why she hated herself, and i took the background image as meaning Mera's son was in fact not aquaman'son, but black manta's son...that would explain why he kidnapped him back then but...is it even possible? i'm not that familiar with the characters and i wondered if i understood right.

No....no, in so many ways.  

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I haven't read the book, of course, but if you interpreted that right, it is totally impossible (in the terms of this idiom, that is).  Mera was never depicted as anything other than faithful to Arthur, and their relationship to Manta was a purely antagonistic one.  The idea that Manta and Mera would have been linked romantically is preposterous, and the idea that it would have been forced just makes that whole storyline with the death of poor Arthur Jr. even more vile.  

[daglob]

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i just read Blackest Night: Wonderwoman 3 today and i wanted to ask you something: does the diana/mera altercation means what i think it means? when the lasso of truth + rings touched mera, we were shown why she hated herself, and i took the background image as meaning Mera's son was in fact not aquaman'son, but black manta's son...that would explain why he kidnapped him back then but...is it even possible? i'm not that familiar with the characters and i wondered if i understood right.

No....no, in so many ways.  I haven't read the book, of course, but if you interpreted that right, it is totally impossible (in the terms of this idiom, that is).  Mera was never depicted as anything other than faithful to Arthur, and their relationship to Manta was a purely antagonistic one.  The idea that Manta and Mera would have been linked romantically is preposterous, and the idea that it would have been forced just makes that whole storyline with the death of poor Arthur Jr. even more vile. 

Have you noticed that there is a tren towards that kind of thing, Benton?

[BentonGrey]

Well, I don't want to risk derailing this thread with a diatribe against modern comics, Daglob, but it does seem that things like that are being used to show how evil the villains are these days.  The important thing to me, though, is that it makes no sense whatsoever.  I'm more than a little curious about the sequence in question.

[Trelau]

Well, that's what i though, it really doesn't fit the character...
edit:(Benton, you should probably edit your post with a spoiler banner though.)

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So, i'm hoping that i might be wrong, but everytime i read this two pages, i became more and more convinced that it's what they are going for
so this is the double page that shows the moment when wonderwoman use here recently acquired star saphire ring and her lasso of truth to try to read mera's mind/heart, so that she could calm her down
http://img532.imageshack.us/i/blackestnightwonderwoma.jpg/
the upload did'nt fully work i think, so if you can't see the bottom of the page, it's a image of wonderwoman "love" moment (staring in bruce's eyes, getting her diademe from her mother, etc). The choice of images for mera is the key point here anyway, and the top-right corner image is the one that intrigued me, where she looks at a sleeping aquaman with a "cold" look.

and it's followed by this page
http://img130.imageshack.us/i/blackestnightwonderwoma.jpg/
here it's the text that's important: the "no wonder she hates herself" though buble and the "he never knew?" of wonderwoman.

Something occurs to me: maybe i'm focusing to much on black manta and not enough on the child: could those pages mean that Mera is responsible for her son's death, and never told arthur? that'd be better...well, more acceptable than a cheating mera anyway.

If you don't mind being "spoiled" benton, you're the aquaman expert here (and everywhere else i might add  ) so maybe you could tell me if my second theory is more credible (i have not read the story of their child's abduction and death, so i don't know what actually happened "on screen")

[murs47]

It's just guilt from eating canned tuna. She doesn't want the secret to get out!

[BentonGrey]

Hah, Murs, maybe so.

Trelau, I didn't think about spoilerizing my post, so I fixed that.  Thanks for the reminder.  As for your second theory:

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I don't know that the image there really supports your first idea.  In all honesty, I can't interpret it that way at all, but I can't say I have any better ideas.  What the heck are we supposed to be drawing from that collage?  Your second idea is pretty unlikely, as Mera was miles away when Arthur Jr. died, and she only found out about it when Aquaman sent his son's body back with Topo (pet octopus) while he went after Manta.  All I can figure is that, since Mera grew to hate Aquaman because of the way he handled the death of their son, maybe it's supposed to be pointing to that, somehow.  That doesn't really make much sense either, since Arthur knew that pretty darn well.  Mera also went crazy for a while...so maybe that's part of it?  She's shown punching Manta right before she's standing over Arthur....but what the significance is, I don't really have a clue.

[Podmark]

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It's probably setting up something coming up. Mera is supposed to appear in some book after Blackest Night, probably Brightest Day. From the pages above, honestly it could be just about anything. Regardless chances are you won't like it Benton.

[Ares_God_of_War]

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I think it is that Mera is really his sister.