Tim Burton Alice in WonderLand

JeyNyce · June 26, 2009, 01:42:59 PM

My wife told me that they release photos of the actors

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=56475

I want to see this movie. Tim haven't let me down yet.

Tomato · June 26, 2009, 01:49:00 PM

The Queen's head is too big, and Depp's face paint makes him look like a Homeless Joker

BentonGrey · June 26, 2009, 01:59:41 PM

The Joker has already looked homeless: http://catholicdiscussion.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/large_batman-the-joker-d3xjfbwm.jpg

lugaru · June 26, 2009, 02:00:43 PM

I like the looks of it, reminds me of a lot of digital art I would see on goth sites at the end of the 90's.

Courtnall6 · June 26, 2009, 02:04:04 PM

Meh.

I lost interest in Burton's movies years ago. The last film I enjoyed of his was Sleepy Hollow.

deano_ue · June 26, 2009, 02:10:30 PM

corpse bride kicked arse

BentonGrey · June 26, 2009, 02:35:00 PM

Color me utterly uninterested. I haven't cared for many of his movies since that second, horrible Batman.

BWPS · June 26, 2009, 03:23:42 PM

His Batman was mediocre and wrong and set the way for terrible sequels.
Beetle Juice and Big Fish were boring.
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was the worst ruining ever, even less like the awesome book than the first and no Gene Wilder or other crazy stuff.
Johnny Depp is not entertaining, and the only time he has been was in the first Pirates movie.
This seems to be in the same vein as that, I'm sure it won't be anything like the book but instead will just have a bunch of other weirdness and completely miss the point.
Nightmare Before Christmas is the best Christmas movie EVAR, but I don't think I really like Tim Burton overall.
9 looks really great, but he isn't even writing or directing that.

Talavar · June 26, 2009, 04:25:40 PM

Quote from: BWPS on June 26, 2009, 03:23:42 PM
His Batman was mediocre and wrong and set the way for terrible sequels.
Beetle Juice and Big Fish were boring.
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was the worst ruining ever, even less like the awesome book than the first and no Gene Wilder or other crazy stuff.
Johnny Depp is not entertaining, and the only time he has been was in the first Pirates movie.
This seems to be in the same vein as that, I'm sure it won't be anything like the book but instead will just have a bunch of other weirdness and completely miss the point.
Nightmare Before Christmas is the best Christmas movie EVAR, but I don't think I really like Tim Burton overall.
9 looks really great, but he isn't even writing or directing that.

And Tim Burton didn't direct Nightmare Before Christmas either.

That said, I hope this is good. Tim Burton is very hit or miss for me, and he seems to have been missing a lot more lately than hitting.

JeyNyce · June 26, 2009, 04:52:58 PM

Quote from: BWPS on June 26, 2009, 03:23:42 PM
His Batman was mediocre and wrong and set the way for terrible sequels.
Beetle Juice and Big Fish were boring.
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was the worst ruining ever, even less like the awesome book than the first and no Gene Wilder or other crazy stuff.
Johnny Depp is not entertaining, and the only time he has been was in the first Pirates movie.
This seems to be in the same vein as that, I'm sure it won't be anything like the book but instead will just have a bunch of other weirdness and completely miss the point.
Nightmare Before Christmas is the best Christmas movie EVAR, but I don't think I really like Tim Burton overall.
9 looks really great, but he isn't even writing or directing that.

So he's not all that, but I love the guy's style. Very dark humor.

lugaru · June 26, 2009, 04:55:07 PM

Wow, no love for Sweeney Todd? I think it was great.

BentonGrey · June 26, 2009, 04:57:28 PM

Quote from: lugaru on June 26, 2009, 04:55:07 PM
Wow, no love for Sweeney Todd? I think it was great.

Never saw it...I have to say that the premise creeped me out more than a little. I do hear it was well made....but a mass murdering barber just isn't my idea of quality literature, on film, on the stage, or in print.

lugaru · June 26, 2009, 05:03:10 PM

I'll paste a little excerpt from my review of the movie, it will make you want to see it even less.

QuoteEven though the film doesn?t lack any comedic relief or musical performances, you won?t confuse it with a lighthearted piece of entertainment. As soon as the pace picks up expect to see throats slit and bones crunched with an unsettling frequency. While stylized, it is a far cry from the ethereal arterial spray in 300. This blood, ketchup red, is abundant and permanent, bubbling as it emerges from a gurgling mouth. All but the most squeamish viewer will get used to the violence but it takes somebody with a subscription to Fangoria to be completely unaffected by it. Also the movie works hard to create a tense atmosphere, littering its scenes with needles and cleavers. Everywhere you look people are wielding dangerous implements, and this is just a fact of life. The horror of this movie is that of a betrayal of trust, that the people we depend on might harm us at our most vulnerable.

Full review and original art from our sites illustrator:

http://www.theconnoisseurs.com/sweeneytodd.html

deano_ue · June 27, 2009, 08:42:26 AM

i love the way people moan about C&TCF it's the closest you'r gonna get to dahls vision of the book. yes burton added his own twists but thats to be expected from someone like him

i just find it funny that every one hates the new one cause it's not like the wilder film when dahl himself hated it with a passion

catwhowalksbyhimself · June 27, 2009, 12:43:19 PM

Personally, I think Burton's love of surrealistic things fits perfectly with Alice in Wonderland since it's a surrealistic book in the first place. The odd distorted looks of the characters is all right for that particular story. We'll see if the movie itself is any good, though.

As for the Chocolate Factory debate, the new one was very, very faithful to the book, but Dahl himself wrote the original screenplay on the older version, so many of the changes were his anyway.

deano_ue · June 27, 2009, 05:14:38 PM

actually there was a few rewrites by David Seltzer, which is why dahl pulled the plug on any sequel

RTTingle · June 27, 2009, 07:22:16 PM

Wow, super creepy.... the way it should be.

While Burton is hit and miss, I still love how he tries to make his films fantasy. He truly expands cinema magic. While it may not always be thumbs up from me on his movies, I certainly appreciate his vision of things.

Looking forward to this despite Hathaway's hair being white.
While I hate most Hollywood actresses with a passion...
I have a serious crush on Amy Adams and Anne Hathaway...

RTT

bredon7777 · June 27, 2009, 07:58:07 PM

Quote from: RTTingle on June 27, 2009, 07:22:16 PM
Wow, super creepy.... the way it should be.

While Burton is hit and miss, I still love how he tries to make his films fantasy. He truly expands cinema magic. While it may not always be thumbs up from me on his movies, I certainly appreciate his vision of things.

Looking forward to this despite Hathaway's hair being white.
While I hate most Hollywood actresses with a passion...
I have a serious crush on Amy Adams and Anne Hathaway...

RTT

You can have Anne, but I'll fight you for Amy. Been head over heels for her since Enchanted...

BWPS · June 27, 2009, 11:30:03 PM

Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on June 27, 2009, 08:42:26 AM
i love the way people moan about C&TCF it's the closest you'r gonna get to dahls vision of the book. yes burton added his own twists but thats to be expected from someone like him

What? It was less like the book than Willy Wonka, and unlike the original, all the additions and songs were completely worthless.

catwhowalksbyhimself · June 28, 2009, 12:05:43 AM

It's actually far, far closer to the book in a lot of ways. Surely, you've read the book? In addition, the songs actually are the songs from the book, set to music.

BWPS · June 28, 2009, 02:55:45 AM

Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on June 28, 2009, 12:05:43 AM
It's actually far, far closer to the book in a lot of ways. Surely, you've read the book? In addition, the songs actually are the songs from the book, set to music.

I've read the book many times. Maybe in some ways it was closer to the book but overall it tried to tell a completely different story about Wonka. The whole bit about Wonka being the son of the dentist was a stupid backstory. I personally hated it very much mostly thanks to Johnny Depp being the worst casting choice for the character. The songs were all terrible even if they were the same lyrically. And the Gene Wilder movie, although definitely not as good as the book and definitely not a very close following, was a good movie (thanks much to Gene Wilder) and was much more faithful to the point of the book, where Wonka isn't some depressing little shut-in with a bad childhood but more of just an eccentric genius.

Talavar · June 28, 2009, 04:11:04 AM

While the Burton version of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory may have been a more literal adaptation of the book, it was much further from the spirit and tone of the book than Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory, in my opinion.

TheMarvell · June 28, 2009, 04:29:07 PM

I think Alice in Wonderland is right up Burton's alley, and am surprised he hasn't made an adaptation earlier than now. I'm sure the movie will have outstanding visuals, but most of Burton's movies I just don't like. In fact, I can really only think of three movies of his I like, and that's Big Fish and the Batmans. I really didn't like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and thought Planet of the Apes was terrible. I doubt I'll see this unless some of my friends convince me to go.

catwhowalksbyhimself · June 28, 2009, 05:12:53 PM

QuoteAnd the Gene Wilder movie, although definitely not as good as the book and definitely not a very close following, was a good movie (thanks much to Gene Wilder) and was much more faithful to the point of the book, where Wonka isn't some depressing little shut-in with a bad childhood but more of just an eccentric genius.

Well, that I agree with. There's something about the first movie, a certain charm the new one lacks. And you're right about the whole backstory. Kind of took away from it all.

RTTingle · June 28, 2009, 05:23:08 PM

Quote from: RTTingle on June 27, 2009, 07:22:16 PM
Wow, super creepy.... the way it should be.

While Burton is hit and miss, I still love how he tries to make his films fantasy. He truly expands cinema magic. While it may not always be thumbs up from me on his movies, I certainly appreciate his vision of things.

I'm so glad someone agrees with me word for word.
Do yourself a HUGE favor and see Night at the Musuem 2 at Imax.
Those eyes and her derriere in those jodhpurs are the STARS of the movie.

RTT

Reepicheep · June 28, 2009, 09:33:51 PM

I'm quite a Tim Burton fan. Big Fish is one of my favourite films, I'm repeatedly touched by it each time I see it.

So I'm quite excited. Those who have said that this is the perfect scene for Tim Burton, I agree.

JeyNyce · June 29, 2009, 01:40:56 PM

Stories like Alice in Wonderland was dark in nature. Disney took them and made them kid friendly. Another story that is dark in nature as well is the Pied-Piper.

thanoson · June 29, 2009, 06:17:20 PM

Maybe he can take on Hansel and Gretel.

catwhowalksbyhimself · June 29, 2009, 09:20:58 PM

QuoteStories like Alice in Wonderland was dark in nature.

I wouldn't call it dark so much as twisted. Most kids stories throughout history, though, would never make a PG rating if made into an accurate movie today and most would be considered R. At any rate, it does fit Burton's elaborate yet twisted style.

lugaru · June 30, 2009, 12:38:58 PM

Yeah, by the looks of it hopefully it will focus on surreal more than dark... people keep doing these movies, comics and games that say "the stories where supposed to be dark, lets make 'em darker... more barbed wire, more black corsettes, more knives and tattoos and ravens and absynth and..."

You know... just like disney made stuff too kid friendly many people who re-tell these stories end up just playing to goth cliches and again entirely losing the sensibility of the original.

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