Tim Burton Alice in WonderLand

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UnfluffyBunny

#30
July 01, 2009, 10:23:10 AM
I gotto agree with TUE, the gene wilder ovie, while a good movie, isnt as faithful as the new version, and this was even agreed by dahl's daughter who worked with burton during the movie's creation and repeated no end how much her father would have preferred burton's adaptation, then again, BWPS hates everything :P

always been intrigued by alice in wonderland (the fact I have a rabbit in a top-hat tattoo'd to my chest >_>) and will be interested in seeing how this progresses, I think burton's done some amazing work and has always been good at "capturing" an audience IMO.

Sevenforce

#31
July 01, 2009, 12:00:38 PM
This looks like something that could lead to McGee's Alice being adapted, I mean, the character designs are already twisted enough :P
I so need booze -_-

BWPS

#32
July 01, 2009, 12:15:19 PM Last Edit: July 01, 2009, 12:23:35 PM by BWPS
Quote from: Sevenforce on July 01, 2009, 12:00:38 PM
This looks like something that could lead to McGee's Alice being adapted, I mean, the character designs are already twisted enough :P
I thought AM's Alice was actually in production which is actually the main reason I'm so not excited for this. Because this seems similar, it will probably prevent Alice from ever getting made. Luckily there is a sequel to the game coming.

Quotethen again, BWPS hates everything
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Cardmaster

#33
July 01, 2009, 10:10:10 PM
pssst. you guys know that this is taking place 10 years post the original story (a la American McGee's "Alice") right?
ie. Alice goes back to Wonderland where everything's gone to hell.
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catwhowalksbyhimself

#35
July 26, 2009, 06:46:11 PM
Quotepssst. you guys know that this is taking place 10 years post the original story (a la American McGee's "Alice") right?
ie. Alice goes back to Wonderland where everything's gone to hell.

Based on the trailer, I'd say your dead wrong about that, although I do believe there were a couple of other projects that were being worked on that would have fit that defiinition.  I looks to me like they are following the books fairly closely, except for merging them together, which for some reason every alice film ever made has done.
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Talavar

#36
July 26, 2009, 08:01:14 PM
The reason both books always get merged together is because either one alone would make a film with a 30 minute runtime.  They're short.

catwhowalksbyhimself

#37
July 26, 2009, 09:05:56 PM
Yes, but they're also completely different, and have not connection whatsoever apart from Alice. They don't even take place in the same world.  If you must put them together, at least make it a two-part movie or something.
I am the cat that walks by himself, all ways are alike to me.

Zippo

#38
July 27, 2009, 05:07:53 PM
Ech.... The CG I've seen so far in the trailers is really ruining this for me. Colour me wholly uninterested in this entire thing.

catwhowalksbyhimself

#39
July 27, 2009, 08:57:27 PM
Really?  I think it makes the movie look more like Wonderland should look.  It's a bizzare and distorted world and you really need CG to portray it properly.
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Tomato

#40
July 28, 2009, 06:53:25 PM
Meh, I guess my thing is, I look at that Trailer and I find there's entirely too much focus on Depp for my taste... even getting over Tim Burton's style for the moment (which I think does fit the books better but is a bit too much for me personally) this is ALICE in Wonderland... why is the first trailer devoted almost entirely to Mad Hatter? I admit to being fairly outside the Alice fandom, but I don't recall Hatter being that influential in the story.

Don't get me wrong, I understand it... Depp is a big name and all that. But he's not in the starring role this time, he's a supporting actor.

Talavar

#41
July 28, 2009, 07:02:00 PM
Why is Depp in a major part of the trailer?  Because a trailer's job is to get butts in movie theatre seats, and Johnny Depp can do that.  You don't need to advertise the plot - the story barely has one anyway, and if people aren't familiar with 'Alice in Wonderland' already, the whole idea of moving pictures is probably going to freak them out too much for a trailer faithfully describing the story to do much good anyway.

Mr. Hamrick

#42
July 30, 2009, 08:03:59 PM
With regards to the trailer, I strongly disagree that it focuses too much on Depp.  He serves as a narrator for the teaser and then is revealed as to his appearance as The Mad Hatter.  Aside from his narration, he appears in barely a third of the teaser trailer. 

It's a classic teaser method that has been done numerous times over the years in numerous genres.  You have a supporting actor that is recognizable to the audience featured in the teaser to attract the audience to become interested.  Especially when the lead actress is a barely recognizable name and not likely to sell tickets.  Who is Mia Wasikowska anyway?  I mean I have seen her in a wonderful little film called "That Evening Sun" that most of you probably have not heard of.  (She was a supporting role at best in the thing.  The film belonged to Hal Holbrook!!)  Otherwise, her biggest thing was a reoccurring role on the series "In Treatment" as far as stuff seen in America.  Therefore, audiences are given a commodity in the teaser that will bring in audiences: Johnny Depp.  And Depp is one of the hottest commodities in Hollywood right now.  (And rightfully so, he is one of the most versatile actors out there right now.)

The same concept was done with LA Confidential with Kevin Spacey's character appearing to have a larger role than he did in the film.  The real stars of the film were Russell Crowe and Guy Pearce but Spacey was the bigger name.
Spoiler
Spacey's character dies halfway into the movie

Don't judge the film therefore by the teaser alone.



As for the plot,
Spoiler
it doesn't seem to follow the books directly nor follow the American McGhee envisioning of Alice.  Alice is established as being seventeen in the film and on the verge of being proposed to.  She runs off from the party where she is to be proposed to and finds the rabbit hole.  She winds up back in Wonderland but does not remember having been there ten years earlier.

Sevenforce

#43
July 30, 2009, 09:39:59 PM
Reminds me of Sky Captain, Hamrick, and Angelina Jolie practically dominating the trailer when she actually showed up for all of 3 minutes ;)

It looks interesting, but...I dunno. I seem to be getting Burton'd out. Don't get me wrong, I still love his stuff, but his style is getting stale to me. Mostly realised during Charlie and the Chocolate Factory remake :/
I so need booze -_-

Mr. Hamrick

#44
July 31, 2009, 02:47:50 AM
Quote from: Sevenforce on July 30, 2009, 09:39:59 PM
Reminds me of Sky Captain, Hamrick, and Angelina Jolie practically dominating the trailer when she actually showed up for all of 3 minutes ;)

It looks interesting, but...I dunno. I seem to be getting Burton'd out. Don't get me wrong, I still love his stuff, but his style is getting stale to me. Mostly realised during Charlie and the Chocolate Factory remake :/

Sky Captain is an excellent example. 

And I am not disagreeing with you about Burton getting a bit stale, just commenting on the technique used in making the teaser trailer.

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