Justice League film confirmed

[JeyNyce]

See, I think the confusion is that it's not being billed as Superman/Batman. It's being billed as "The Justice League prequel"

It's not even billed as Man of Steel 2, because that will come out later on.

[BentonGrey]

What does Benton think?  Take a wild guess.  Haha, I'm pleased that I've become so synonymous with my favorite character that y'all were asking that question.  Well, Benton was on vacation (you were right about that Spyder), ha, and I just got back recently.  So, allow me to catch up.

Good heavens...where to start?  How's about the fact that THIS is Aquaman:

While THIS is a very poor Conan:


See the difference?

Those of you who scoff at complaints based on appearance are way off on this one.  Yeah, Chris Evans' hair was dyed and he looked great as Cap.  Sure, there is a lot that can be done to make an actor look like a character, but casting someone like this fellow just indicates that the empty suits have no desire to even try to match the comics.  Yeah, they could dye his hair and give him contacts, but he'd look ridiculous.  Folks talking about the stupid blonde hair-outcast origin from the PAD days are only adding layers to the terribleness.

Now, since Stargate Atlantis I haven't seen this guy in anything other than the few minutes of the new Conan that I turned off because it was so bad.  Maybe he's gotten much, MUCH better since then, but in what I've seen he couldn't act to save his life.  So, great, we've got a guy who looks nothing like the character AND who's only acting skill is to look generically menacing?  Fantastic.

I really, REALLY have grown to hate WB.

On the positive side, what there is of it, he looks darn imposing and grim.  That indicates that they intend this...version of the character to be taken seriously.  That's good, I suppose.  And yes, there is value in Aquaman being included in a JLA movie at all.  It seemed much more likely that he'd be left out, to begin with.  However, this whole announcement just takes me back to the conversation from earlier in this very thread.  This just feels like a terrible waste of a very rare (and therefore precious) opportunity.  Aquaman is going to get to be on the big screen.  They actually have the opportunity to show an entire generation of people that he's not just the lame guy from Super Friends.  If they do that by sacrificing everything that makes the character who he is (and I'm not saying that is the case), then we've lost more than we've gained.  Every piece of news that emerges just leaves me feeling increasingly sad for what seems to be the wasted potential of this movie.

[Reepicheep]

In a perfect world, who would you cast, Benton?

[Shogunn2517]

Shot in the dark, but I'm thinking he'd go with an actor that could conceivably pass for the character.

[BentonGrey]

Shot in the dark, but I'm thinking he'd go with an actor that could conceivably pass for the character.

Haha!  Ohh man, that made my night!

Reep, I'm not sure.  I'm not great with that type of thing, but my wife and I were actually talking about this question earlier.  She had a good observation.  If Chris Hemsworth wasn't already playing Thor, he'd actually make a pretty great Aquaman.  I think an unknown would be best.  It isn't like there's a shortage of talent around.

[Shogunn2517]

Wel, as luck would have it, BG, Chris Hemsworth has a brother who's every bit physically imposing as he is.



Come on... How hard would it have been to give this guy some fish scales?

[kkhohoho]

Folks talking about the stupid blonde hair-outcast origin from the PAD days are only adding layers to the terribleness.

...Or, it could be that they actually like the 'stupid blonde-hair outcast origin from the PAD days,' which, IMO, is the opposite of stupid. (It makes more sense if you read the fantastic Atlantis Chronicles miniseries, believe me.)

[HarryTrotter]

In his defence,hes probably gonna look like he does in Red Road,and not like Conan.About hair color,is that really such a big deal?

[Shogunn2517]

In his defence,hes probably gonna look like he does in Red Road,and not like Conan.About hair color,is that really such a big deal?

Can you imagine a blonde or Mexican Punisher?

[HarryTrotter]

Dying Dolph Lundgrens hair wasnt the best choice,either.
But hair color isnt everything guys.Or maybe they are trying to reinvent the charachter.

[Shogunn2517]

Dying Dolph Lundgrens hair wasnt the best choice,either.
But hair color isnt everything guys.Or maybe they are trying to reinvent the charachter.

This look blonde to you?

[HarryTrotter]

^Hes naturaly blond,he dyed his hear for Punisher.And it looked unnatural.

[Reepicheep]

In his defence,hes probably gonna look like he does in Red Road,and not like Conan.About hair color,is that really such a big deal?

Can you imagine a blonde or Mexican Punisher?

I can now. Now I'll never be happy with the original again.

[Shogunn2517]

^Hes naturaly blond,he dyed his hear for Punisher.And it looked unnatural.

Kind of my point.

And you really didn't answer the question, though.

[HarryTrotter]

Aquamen is already memed enough.
About blonde Punisher,thats not SO huge,about Mexican Punisher...hardly.
Im guessing they went with a different motif for Aquamen,maybe hes Indian here?

[Midnite]

Shot in the dark, but I'm thinking he'd go with an actor that could conceivably pass for the character.

Haha!  Ohh man, that made my night!

Reep, I'm not sure.  I'm not great with that type of thing, but my wife and I were actually talking about this question earlier.  She had a good observation.  If Chris Hemsworth wasn't already playing Thor, he'd actually make a pretty great Aquaman.  I think an unknown would be best.  It isn't like there's a shortage of talent around.

What do you think about Josh Holloway? I think he would make a good Aquaman.

[JeyNyce]

Even though it isn't as major as Ben Affleck being Batman, the way you guys are talking here, I can see this conversation about Aquaman heading that way.  This only proves my theory that there are a lot of "In the closet" Aquaman fans!  

[BentonGrey]

Folks talking about the stupid blonde hair-outcast origin from the PAD days are only adding layers to the terribleness.

...Or, it could be that they actually like the 'stupid blonde-hair outcast origin from the PAD days,' which, IMO, is the opposite of stupid. (It makes more sense if you read the fantastic Atlantis Chronicles miniseries, believe me.)

Haha, perhaps Kk.   I've heard good things about the Atlantis Chronicles, but the Tarzan underwater origin just doesn't do it for me.  You lose half of what makes Aquaman who he is with that version.  No, this is Aquaman to me:



It's one of the great origins, archetypal, pure, and classic.

Shogunn, I could get behind that. 

Spade, as I've said many times before, eys, hair color is something of a big deal when you're dealing with characters who are visual in their presentation.  Comics are a visual medium, Superman is as much a guy in red and blue as he is the Last Son of Krypton.  Imagine a blonde Superman or a red headed Batman.  It just wouldn't be the character, because the character is their appearance, in part.  As others have pointed out, Momoa isn't just the wrong hair color, he's completely the wrong look.

Midnite, I've heard his name mentioned a few times.  I can see why folks would think of him, but to me he's always got too much of a shifty look about him to be Aquaman.

Haha, right JeyNyce!

[Talavar]

A blonde Superman would be wonky, but I don't think any of the Batman actors have had the comic-book traditional Black hair/blue eyes.  That isn't to say Momoa is a good choice (I have no idea, and it's hardly my biggest concern about this film), but there is some wiggle room in casting actors outside how much they look like a drawing.

[Starman]

In his defence,hes probably gonna look like he does in Red Road,and not like Conan.About hair color,is that really such a big deal?

Can you imagine a blonde or Mexican Punisher?

A Mexican Punisher??? Goodness gracious!  Everyone knows that only blonde, brunette, or black haired Irishmen, Swedes or Americans of various heights and builds can play The Punisher. It's a very specific role.

Imagine a blonde Superman or a red headed Batman

Val Kilmer was light brunette Batman.

As for Aquaman, since the guy has had so many different looks over the years (long hair, bearded, clean shaven, buzz cut, tentacle faced etc), so many different costumes, and so many different hands (magical water hands, hook hands, hand hands), I think that Zack Snyder has a lot of material to choose from for his Justice League look. If they think Aquaman's comic fanbase is going to rebel and cost the film money at the box office, I'm sure they'll do something about his hair.

I think we have to like it or lump it that Zack Snyder's Aquaman isn't going to be the classic version, in the same way that neck-snapping Superman and (probably) Batman aren't the classic comic book characters. At a guess, he'll probably be an amalgam of the tougher bearded hook-hand Aquaman and the warlord-ish Flashpoint Aquaman.

I'm really keen to see some big budget underwater action, though ... I think Snyder will make Atlantis and Aquaman's powers look sweet. The one (and only) thing you can rely on Synder for as a director is some tasty visual spectacle.

[kkhohoho]

Folks talking about the stupid blonde hair-outcast origin from the PAD days are only adding layers to the terribleness.

...Or, it could be that they actually like the 'stupid blonde-hair outcast origin from the PAD days,' which, IMO, is the opposite of stupid. (It makes more sense if you read the fantastic Atlantis Chronicles miniseries, believe me.)

Haha, perhaps Kk.   I've heard good things about the Atlantis Chronicles, but the Tarzan underwater origin just doesn't do it for me.  You lose half of what makes Aquaman who he is with that version.  No, this is Aquaman to me:



It's one of the great origins, archetypal, pure, and classic.

Perhaps, but on the other hand, PAD's version, with the Atlantis Chronicles behind it, gave Aquaman a heck of a heritage, though there were probably ways to work that in while still having him be half-human, so I'll give you that. (Seriously, ignore the second half of the last issue if you have to, (since that's the only chapter  that directly deals with Aquaman's origin, and it's only 20 pages or so,) but if you're interested in the history of DC's Atlantis, Chronicles is a must-read.)

[HarryTrotter]

Guys,guys just chill.Lets see how this goes.I mean nobody complained that Thor was Australian.And besides I doubt much of the movies action will be underwater.

[spydermann93]

And besides I doubt much of the movies action will be underwater.

If it's done well, it very well could be

[HarryTrotter]

We know absolutly nothing about story but setting it underwater would be hard for the rest of the JL.And with Henry Cavills Superman and Ben Aflecs Batman,Aquamen is not the biggest issue here.

[crimsonquill]

Since they have confirmed Aquaman is in the JL films.. I'm still hoping they acknowledge that the Oil Rig fire in Man Of Steel was an attack by Aquaman or at least Black Manta.

- CQ

[spydermann93]

Since they have confirmed Aquaman is in the JL films.. I'm still hoping they acknowledge that the Oil Rig fire in Man Of Steel was an attack by Aquaman or at least Black Manta.

- CQ

Or Orm.  I think Aquaman would've handled it with greater finesse

[Shogunn2517]

As for Aquaman, since the guy has had so many different looks over the years (long hair, bearded, clean shaven, buzz cut, tentacle faced etc), so many different costumes, and so many different hands (magical water hands, hook hands, hand hands), I think that Zack Snyder has a lot of material to choose from for his Justice League look. If they think Aquaman's comic fanbase is going to rebel and cost the film money at the box office, I'm sure they'll do something about his hair.

In which variation did Aquaman look like the Apache Chief?

[Starman]

Aquaman has had long hair, a beard, muscles and warrior-style costume before. I don't think Jason Momoa being a Hawaiian with light tan skin and dark hair makes him "Apache Chief"... 

[Talavar]

As for Aquaman, since the guy has had so many different looks over the years (long hair, bearded, clean shaven, buzz cut, tentacle faced etc), so many different costumes, and so many different hands (magical water hands, hook hands, hand hands), I think that Zack Snyder has a lot of material to choose from for his Justice League look. If they think Aquaman's comic fanbase is going to rebel and cost the film money at the box office, I'm sure they'll do something about his hair.

In which variation did Aquaman look like the Apache Chief?

All I can say to this is wow. 

[HarryTrotter]

Its Aquamen,its not like hes gonna do something.So just chill.