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Need some help brainstorming.

Started by Tomato, May 29, 2013, 10:51:56 PM

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Tomato

This really isn't a mesh/skin request per-se, but I'm looking for help trying to work out one of my ideas for future skins.

Ok, so. I hinted awhile back that I had more or less figured out a cool way to do the pre-crisis versions of Ultraman, Superwoman, and Owlman. My idea is actually make them be more or less the CSA equivalent of Earth 2... which also opens the door to other JSA counterparts later on if I ever get that far with this.

The problem is in finding a way to do that with all three characters. E2 style Ultraman is easy enough, the E2 Superman body type is so recognizable that all I'd really need to do is switch the base mesh and age the Ultraman skin up a bit. E2 style Superwoman isn't too hard either, since I can pull from E2 Wonder Woman's appearance in the Infinite Crisis series for inspiration.

The real problem is figuring out Owlman. See, Batman really doesn't have an E2 counterpart... in that universe, Bruce Wayne more or less retired and handed the reigns over to Dick Grayson. As such, he really doesn't appear in the more modern E2 stories, particularly any under an artist who draws him differently than Earth 1 Bruce.

So I'm kinda stuck. There isn't enough face showing under the mask to really do too much to age up Owlman's face so I almost need some variation in body type to show the distinction. But I can't really copy the body type of E2 Superman(since I'm already using it for Ultraman), and a DKR style body doesn't work with the goofy silver age Owlman design.

BentonGrey

What about turning away from Owlman altogether?  You could copy the pattern more directly, and perhaps create an E2 style Talon, having taken over from Owlman and retained his own identity.
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Cyber Burn

I want to think maybe a bulkier, stocky, non-muscular Bruce Wayne, similar to the Batman_Beyond version. Maybe your Male_Stocky_TM mesh?

But I do like Benton's idea as well.

Tomato

Quote from: BentonGrey on May 29, 2013, 11:12:23 PM
What about turning away from Owlman altogether?  You could copy the pattern more directly, and perhaps create an E2 style Talon, having taken over from Owlman and retained his own identity.

I'd be OK with that on a purely narrative level, but the main point of this is so that I can finally skin the last few members of the silver age CSA (I did Hal and Barry's counterparts alongside Kyle, Wally and John's as legacy characters). I don't want to do normal versions of them in the costumes... one because it looks dorky, but also because it bugs me that Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman had more or less consistent costumes pre-n52 and their counterparts don't. Doing E2-style variants lets me sidestep that prejudice, it's just finding a way to justify Owlman.

I like the idea of going to Batman Beyond, but I also think I want to look at Kingdom Come as well.

Amazo Version 2.2

i agree with cyber burn, batman beyond would probably be the better way to go for a owlman.
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Hey "Mato, I was just wondering if you were continuing with this, and if so, how you decided to proceed?