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Started by Shogunn2517, April 26, 2012, 02:58:26 AM

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catwhowalksbyhimself

Same trailer.  It's the end of it that has me curious though, namely the

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Tomato

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That's actually something those of us on the toy news end of things have known about for awhile. From what I understand, IM3 is pulling the idea from the old iron man stories where Tony has designed different Iron Man armors for different occasions... Underwater Armor, Hulkbuster armor, etc. At some point in the film, either tony will end up using all his armors at once to take down whoever he's facing (presumably Mandarin, but I've been avoiding finer details) or they'll all be turned against him and he'll be forced take extreme measures (*cough*Extremis*cough*) to take out his former tech.

For the record, the "official" Iron Man armor for IM3 is listed on the "Armor Assembler" toy as the "Mark 42"... meaning between Avengers and Iron Man 3, Tony has cranked out 34 new armor types.

Tomato

Just wanted to tack on something that I was trying to add last night, but was too tired to coherently type out: I suspect that the use of multiple new armors at once, as well as the inclusion of Iron Patriot as a repainted War Machine, was at least partly an editorial mandate. Not from Disney you understand (Disney's been good about being hands off so far), but from Hasbro. In an industry where Mattel's pumping out rainbow batman toys for the kids line to milk any last penny out of the Dark Knight franchise, Iron Man is a property that's pretty much made for toys... you can pump out 20 different versions of his armor and they can all be legitimate.

That said, in the first few movies (and Avengers) there wasn't really time for Tony to make multiple armors, so Hasbro's been going to the comics for variety... the problem being that the new movie armors clash with the more simple armors from those early comic stories. They sold ok (collectors picking up their favorite armors, kids getting the movie toys) but not as well as they wanted, with IM2 toys still peg warming in several of my go-to shops.

With IM3 though, we're getting 2 separate "kiddy" 4" toy lines filled with different Iron Man armors from the movie. They're cheap, sparsely articulated, and not painted very well, but they'll still probably sell better then the IM2 line. Kids will want to have all the different Iron Mans, collectors will probably want them as backdrops for a movie-style "Hall of Armors," and they've got the "Adult" 6" Legends line for the collectors who just want good versions of the core characters.

Talavar

Multiple armours at once have also been used in several Avengers comics by Bendis in the last few years, so it's not (at least originally) a toymaker's idea.

catwhowalksbyhimself

The trailer seems to show Tony and Rhody leading the iron men armors, so either there's a ton of people in the suits, or the whole Extremis plot will involve Tony gaining the ability to control multiple armors at once.  Which could actually work.
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BentonGrey

Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on March 06, 2013, 09:37:25 PM
The trailer seems to show Tony and Rhody leading the iron men armors, so either there's a ton of people in the suits, or the whole Extremis plot will involve Tony gaining the ability to control multiple armors at once.  Which could actually work.

While it's always possible that the trailers have misleading editing, from what we've seen I'd say it seems that the latter is the more likely.

Did anyone else notice the Hulkbuster armor at the end?
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Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on March 06, 2013, 09:37:25 PM
The trailer seems to show Tony and Rhody leading the iron men armors, so either there's a ton of people in the suits, or the whole Extremis plot will involve Tony gaining the ability to control multiple armors at once.  Which could actually work.

Based on the teaser and trailer footage, I assume after a rough patch with Pepper because of his obsession with making armors for every possible emergency or situation he ends up working with Maya Hansen on her prototype project. He become the guinea pig for her process and slowly find out that the process has a few side effects (the armor which is stalking Pepper while Tony is sleeping seen in one of the trailers) and after he saves The President and Maya during of one his attacks against Air Force One that Mandarian decides to take dealing with Tony in a major way.. take him and his friends out along with his very precious home before they know what hit them.

Once he is forced to start from ground zero and make a new suit of armor from scraps and learn how to control Extremis, The President decides to take advantage of the disappearance of The Avengers and Tony Stark as an opportunity to take the only hero under military control and make him their poster boy, thus War Machine is reborn as Iron Patriot. Maya probably ends up being ordered to take her Extremis process to AIM to make more soldiers to fight Mandarian... which of course ends up very badly for everyone.

I'm taking a guess that Tony's obsession fueled collection of armors is being held within Avengers Tower which is still under construction.

Quote from: BentonGrey on March 06, 2013, 10:24:05 PM
Did anyone else notice the Hulkbuster armor at the end?

I'm thinking that maybe a cameo of Bruce Banner will occur somewhere at the beginning with Tony and him standing in front of the Hulkbuster armor talking about working on it together and hoping that he would never have to use it. Just a small scene which shows where Bruce went after The Avengers with Tony before he leaves to explore more of his Hulk side.

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Yo, you guys think Pepper dies? I wonder if Pepper dies. It seems like she might because she was near some kind of fire, and then Tonistark was like "I'll get revenge on you Ghandi! You killed PEPPPPPAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!" (subtext)
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Tomato

Different interviews have mentioned some kind of strain between Tony and Pepper, but i have high hopes for whatever it turns out to be... to his credit one of the things Downey pushed for was for the relationship between Tony and Pepper to have moved forward since IM2, and I doubt he'd let up on that for IM3.

BentonGrey

'Mato, that's really cool.  I hadn't heard that.
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Tomato

Joss Whedon mentions it in the commentary (I highly recommend sitting through it BTW, you learn a lot about how the movie came together). To be fair, it had a lot more to do with Downey not wanting to retread the same relationship conflicts from IM1+2, but all that still applies to IM3: whatever DOES occur in this movie almost has to be a new conflict, and that moves the relationship in a new direction.

XStream

We know we have heard a lot about how Avengers affected Tony. So I believe it is safe to assume he has become consumed with being prepared for the next fight.

It would explain the heated exchange that must take place in the scene where Tony says he will protect the one thing he can not live without, Pepper. He has become obsessed with being prepared, and thus he has created 34 new suits.

I did notice many of the suits when Mark 42 lowers into its holding area... So are they in the mansion? Or Avengers tower?

Looking like a good continuation of the previous stories. It doesn't feel like an ending to a trilogy. I believe we can expect more Iron Man films without a reboot anytime soon.
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XStream

I hate to post back to back, but I just came across this image and I do not believe I have seen anyone on here share it. I noticed Tony's armor at the end of the trailer was not the same as the beginning, but that is nothing new. However, this is the first I have seen of... Mark 43?

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The site has a couple of other armors as well... One of which looks very familiar after watching the newest trailer.
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Tomato

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Sorry to disappoint, but that's actually the "Layered Plating Armor," otherwise listed as the Mark 22 by this website

Edit: kept reading, and Xstream's right... sort of. It's actually listed on that site as the Mark XLVIII, or 48... but the regular armor is listed as the Mark XLVII by the same site, and it's clearly labeled as "Mark 42" on the action figure and other merchandise. As it is, the basis for that info is speculation based on a post from an "insider" which no one can really confirm is legitimate.

deano_ue

i have watched the new trailer and it is glorious, i still sit here smile on my face and arms raised in joy, even when it was over






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Outcast

Watching the trailer, it looks to me like it's gonna be another blockbuster hit movie. And knowing that the movie is only just about a month away has gotten me excited for it even more. :)

XStream

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BWPS

Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on March 08, 2013, 12:57:26 PM
i have watched the new trailer and it is glorious, i still sit here smile on my face and arms raised in joy, even when it was over






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:lol: nice
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Tomato

I don't normally post random facebook apps promoting a movie, but This one gives you a look at some of the different armors leading up to the release of IM3. New armors added daily, I understand.

Also: For anyone who bought into that list of armors an anon released, between the listed numbers for these armors and the fact that the gold armor is specifically NOT the Extremis suit (extremis plays a role, but the Mark 42 armor is what he's using from the start of the movie) that list is mostly invalidated at this point. It might have been an early working copy, or they might have made changes because it came out, but in either case I wouldn't rely on it too heavily going forward.

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BlueBard

That was evil, 'Mato...  You're a Rotten Tomato.

(Spoiled, get it?)
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Tomato

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Hey, it's not like I only put it inside one spoiler and you accidentally clicked on it... you have to work to get that thing all the way open. Also, to be fair, it's not like it hasn't been hinted at in the trailers... there's even a shot of it happening if you're looking for it.

edit: Oh, I almost forgot... if you go to that facebook app I linked before, on top of the "Silver Centurion" and "Shotgun" armors from yesterday, we have "Heartbreaker" and "Igor" (Hulkbuster) armors revealed today.

BlueBard

Quote from: Tomato on March 27, 2013, 04:35:38 PM
you have to work to get that thing all the way open

You can say that again.  Did'ya have to bury it THAT deep?  That's the evil spoiler I'm talking about!  :P
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thalaw2

Here's something that you guys state side might want to know:

QuoteMarvel Studios will release a different version of "Iron Man 3" in China and opted against filing for the movie to be a Chinese co-production, Marvel announced on Friday. China is very strict about how many foreign movies it will permit to screen, and its censors are similarly strict over the content of those movies.
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I'll be sure to let you know exactly what extra footage I can see here for my $10 ticket.
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deano_ue

$5 its a lot of edits to do with the mandarin

Mr. Hamrick

Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on March 30, 2013, 07:51:24 PM
$5 its a lot of edits to do with the mandarin 

Part of the reason deals with Chinese actress Fan Bingbing whose part in the film is being cut from the Non-Chinese release of the film. 

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-china-iron-man-3-20130329,0,3011023.story

http://thediplomat.com/asia-life/2013/03/fan-bingbing-cut-out-of-iron-man-3-except-in-china/

Interesting note about Fan Bingbing, she is apparently playing Blink in "Xmen: Days of Future Past"

thalaw2

Wow!  I didn't know those scenese of Shanghai in Looper were bonus footage.  To be honest they were really good and kinda made the ending of he movie seem stupid...cuz he shoulda gone to Shanghai!
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Starman

I'm really looking forward to this one ... I'm a big fan of Shane Black. The guy is a great action movie writer and acquited himself well as a director with Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. My main issue with Iron Man 2 was the script - it was kind of a jumbled mess.

It'll also be interesting to see how they portray the Mandarin and what aspects of him they choose to keep.

BentonGrey

I hardly think that Iron Man 2 was a mess.  I thought it was pretty great, but yeah, I'm super excited about 3 as well!

Yeah, it looks like they're painting the Mandarin as a terrorist of some sort, which is an interesting angle.  I'm glad he's in the movie,but I'm uncertain about their portrayal of the character.  However, at this point Marvel has earned lots of good will on my part.
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Tomato

Quote from: BentonGrey on April 16, 2013, 01:46:29 PM
I hardly think that Iron Man 2 was a mess.  I thought it was pretty great, but yeah, I'm super excited about 3 as well!

Yeah, it looks like they're painting the Mandarin as a terrorist of some sort, which is an interesting angle.  I'm glad he's in the movie,but I'm uncertain about their portrayal of the character.  However, at this point Marvel has earned lots of good will on my part.

No, it kind of was. It wasn't a bad mess, but there wasn't really a clear direction of what they were trying to do. The radiation thing felt forced, the villains weren't fleshed out, and most of the supporting characters turning on Tony the way they did just felt wrong (Pepper I get, but Natasha's job is to watch HIM regardless of her feelings, and there was no reason for Happy to be personally involved based on what was shown).

Again, not a BAD mess (it's a decent film) but it was probably Marvel's weakest showing so far.

catwhowalksbyhimself

Quote from: BentonGrey on April 16, 2013, 01:46:29 PM
Yeah, it looks like they're painting the Mandarin as a terrorist of some sort, which is an interesting angle.  I'm glad he's in the movie,but I'm uncertain about their portrayal of the character.  However, at this point Marvel has earned lots of good will on my part.

He was already set up as a terrorist in the first movie.  The terrorist group Tony was captured by was called Ten Rings, the leader shown had a large prominent ring, and I believe there was reference to a higher leader, so yeah, intended from the start.
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