Skins by Unknown Artist

[life_matrix]

I was going through my massive collection of skins and meshes, trying to categorize some that haven't been sorted, when I noticed a few very similar ones... without any sort of name. I believe these are from the same person because they all had .GIF thumbnails (which is rather unusual) and (all except pwrprncss.gif) use the same glowing red light as a background:


Dreamer.gif
Dreamer.zip

pwrprncss.gif

saturngirl.gif
SaturnGirl.zip

triad.gif
Triad.zip

violet.gif
Violet.zip

Some of these I only have the .GIF image for. But I examined the contents of those with a .ZIP archive and while they do have a readme.txt, they do not have any sort of credits. It merely tells where to find the meshes that goes with their skins:

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 SKin                                              Mesh
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Brainiac 5 vxMale
Chameleon Boy chameleon boy_t
Cosmic Boy vxmale
Dream Girl female_basic_straighthair
Element Lad vxMale
Karate Kid vxMale
Leviathan vxMale_lc_gloves
Lightning Lad vxMale
Lightning Lass female_basic_shorthair
Mon-El vx_longhair
Phantom Girl fb_lawhair
Saturn Girl female_basic_straighthair
Sensor Girl fl_cape69
Shadow Lass fl_cape69
Star Boy vxMale
Sun Boy vxMale
Superboy vxSuperboy
Supergirl supergirl_pg_t_kx
Timberwolf vxmale
Triad female_basic_shorthair
Ultra Boy vxMale
Shrinking Violet fb_lawhair
Wildfire vxMale_noface
[Note: I'm not looking for the meshes on the right, only the skins at the top of this post.]

Anyway, I started collecting skins and meshes several years ago, so I do not recall where I got these. I've already tried the usual master mesh lists, but came up empty. I also tried various Google searches - also a dead end. I'm hoping someone here might recognize these and offer a clue to who made them or where they are/were to be found. Any help is appreciated.

[AfghanAnt]

Those look like Greycount's skins from SkinIndex. Wow, I wish I still had all those skins I submitted there.

[life_matrix]

Thanks for the tip. 

Google searches do not turn up any relevant results with " SkinIndex 'Freedom Force' "... I guess it's safe to say that SkinIndex is gone now?
I seem to recall a place by that name. But if someone could supply a link for where the site used to be, it would be appreciated. I'm hoping archive.org can supply at least a partial site archive so I can confirm these skins.

[deano_ue]

the skin dex is long gone, marvel stepped in because it was doing naughty things with the sims.

I think 99.9% it was pulled off the net from all sources

[bearded]

that power princess looks like catmanex, but i haven't seen him around in a long time.
if you find out who they were from, and everything is ok, would you be willing to upload them somewhere for general consumption?

[Panther_Gunn]

I don't think those are Greycount skins, and if they are, they definitely aren't from the Skindex days.  Most of those skins are listed for VX meshes, and I don't think he ever did any skins specifically for those meshes.  That being said, you can double-check those against the skins he has loaded on alex's site.

[life_matrix]

that power princess looks like catmanex, but i haven't seen him around in a long time.

Hmm... I don't have any skins by catmanex to compare with. I'll have to search the mesh indexes.

if you find out who they were from, and everything is ok, would you be willing to upload them somewhere for general consumption?

Unfortunately, I only have the actual skins for about half of these thumbnails:

Dreamer.zip
SaturnGirl.zip
Triad.zip
Violet.zip

But even if I did find out who they're from, don't I have to get their permission to upload for general consumption? (Or am I still not comprehending the forum rules?) Of course, sharing via email is a different story.

I don't think those are Greycount skins... [snip]
That being said, you can double-check those against the skins he has loaded on alex's site.

You know, when I first looked at these skins I also suspected they might be Greycount's. I honestly find a certain resemblance to his work. (Maybe early work, 'cause his stuff on Alex's site is awesome.) But looking at his stuff on Alex's Freedom Fortress I do not find anything close. Greycount does have skins for Lightning Lass, Phantom Girl, and Saturn Girl, but those are very different costumes and for different meshes.

BTW: I also suspected these might be from CastleBravo, but I can't remember why now... I only have one confirmed "skin" by CastleBravo and that's merely some skin pieces inside Tommyboy's war_machine_t.zip.

[doctorchallenger]

On a hunch, I just checked the wayback machine at archive.org: The are Thunder's skins, originally posted at Gamma Patrol.

http://web.archive.org/web/20041209184345/www.gammapatrol.com/content.php?ctype=skins&cid=new

[daglob]

Waitaminit... you mean these links WORK?

Excuse me; I'm going to be busy for awhile...



...Later...

Okay, not all of them work. I got two off that first page, but the rest may not be there. It would be worth checking back.

[Randomdays]

It appears that only a FEW links work, but still pretty awesome.

[President Raygun]

Waitaminit... you mean these links WORK?

Excuse me; I'm going to be busy for awhile...



...Later...

Okay, not all of them work. I got two off that first page, but the rest may not be there. It would be worth checking back.

I've found that the best thing to do on the internet archive is get a mass downloader, so you don't have to waste too much time figuring out which links work and which don't

[life_matrix]

Hey, thanks doctorchallenger! Mystery solved!

BTW: For those not wanting to manually sort through what's left of the site or sort through tiered folders of images and HTML (via a website downloader), these are the links that work:

From top of main page:
* Blitzkrieg (by AVALON)
* Blizzard II (by Podmark)

From the Meshes page:
* classic_iceman (mesh by Ink, skin by Tetragene)
* classic_psylock (mesh by Ink, skin by Tetragene)
* Exodus (mesh by Ink, skin by Afghan Ant)

And from the gammapatrol.com/files/thunder/ directory, Thunder's stuff:
* Hype_2pack.zip
* JLA_canary.zip
* thunder_prime.zip
* scarecrow.zip
* grundy.zip
* grodd.zip

But I guess this means the four Thunder files I mentioned at the top of this thread are no longer available. Let me know if you need them.

Edit: I found a few more skins by Thunder on my drives:

* JLA_hawkman.zip
* JLA_hawkwoman.zip
* JSA_DinahDrakeLance.zip
* JSA_shierasanders.zip
* JusticeLords_hawkgirl.zip
* JusticeLords_ww.zip
* new_angel.zip (actually, Marvel's Angel: mesh by Ink, skin by Thunder)
* PwrPrncss.zip
* RedRaven_2pack.zip
* volt.zip

PS: bearded, you have mail...

[John Jr.]

So many great skins lost forever. As a newcomer I'm sad I arrived after the site's demise. I would love to get my hands on that Captain Mar-Vell and some of the Legionnaires...

[Thunder]

I still have most of my Gamma patrol skins.  It's funny that I just happened to browse the site today.

[Thunder]

Stay tuned...I am going to open a Yahoo group for my skins.  I have a couple of others I have done since the Gamma Patrol days.

[deano_ue]

So many great skins lost forever.

says you, i'm happy to be gone of 90% of my GPL work.

[President Raygun]

Wow, that's great news Thunder, as someone who missed out completely on the GPL days I think I speak for quite a few of us when I say it's greatly appreciated

[Randomdays]

Same here. Much appreciated!

[life_matrix]

All of Thunder's skins seems to contain identical readme files, which match his skins with the appropriate meshes. But some of these meshes I can't seem to find. Were these exclusive to the Gamma Patrol site before it disappeared? Or is there still some place to find these?

* female_basic_straighthair
* female_basic_shorthair
* fb_lawhair

Of these, fb_lawhair is what I would appreciate.

I think I ended up with the equivalent of female_basic_straighthair by using "female_basic_straighthair_heels_effects" by Lord Ehmsidy. However, that file was just the .NIF mesh, with no skins or readme or anything. I got it to work, though.

Ooleyman's "female_shorthair" sounds like it may be equivalent to "female_basic_shorthair". Judging by the thumbnail image I have of Thunder's "lightninglass" skin for "female_basic_shorthair", it does indeed look to be the same. (It's pretty easy to tell because they have very unique heads and a weird, almost crooked, pencil neck.)

I may have even found something similar (but not identical) to fb_lawhair. Fusion's Temper.zip skin/mesh appears to be a female_basic with a law head. But it also has Law's blindfold, cuffs on the wrists and funky boots. And it appears to always face away from opponents, like the way Law behaves. I thought it used Law keyframes, but it does use female_basic frames. Even after replacing the keyframes, the head still faces away.

[Panther_Gunn]

I'm *pretty* sure I have the straighthair mesh (needed it for a Vindicator skin).  I can double check sometime later tonight.