Spider-Man Film Discussion Thread

[Talavar]

Word is this is going to be made on the (relative) cheap: $80 million or thereabouts, and the cast will all be unknowns.

80 million is a lot of money, but it's less than any one of the previous Spider-man films, and that concerns me.  It suggests there will be significantly less in way of action/FX work, because that was always the bulk of the previous budgets.

[BWPS]

well (500) days of summer was pretty good actually.  so i don't have too much of a problem... but there was no action in the movie...hmmm
Anyway,  using Marc Webb may be an in to get Joseph Gordon Levitt as Peter Parker, and that wouldn't be bad at all!

I hate him.

They obviously only hired this guy because his last name is Webb.

[JeyNyce]

If they use an unknown for Spidey, maybe we'll see him more with the mask on then him taking off all the time like in Spidey 2 & 3

[BlueBard]

Word is this is going to be made on the (relative) cheap: $80 million or thereabouts, and the cast will all be unknowns.

80 million is a lot of money, but it's less than any one of the previous Spider-man films, and that concerns me.  It suggests there will be significantly less in way of action/FX work, because that was always the bulk of the previous budgets.

There's no freaking way they can make a believable Spidey movie without stuntwork, CGI and effects.

Bright side, if they devalue the franchise Marvel can afford to buy it back.

[BentonGrey]

Word is this is going to be made on the (relative) cheap: $80 million or thereabouts, and the cast will all be unknowns.

80 million is a lot of money, but it's less than any one of the previous Spider-man films, and that concerns me.  It suggests there will be significantly less in way of action/FX work, because that was always the bulk of the previous budgets.

There's no freaking way they can make a believable Spidey movie without stuntwork, CGI and effects.

Bright side, if they devalue the franchise Marvel can afford to buy it back.

That's actually what I'm hoping for...but I'm pretty disgusted with this whole thing.

[Talavar]

Word is this is going to be made on the (relative) cheap: $80 million or thereabouts, and the cast will all be unknowns.

80 million is a lot of money, but it's less than any one of the previous Spider-man films, and that concerns me.  It suggests there will be significantly less in way of action/FX work, because that was always the bulk of the previous budgets.

There's no freaking way they can make a believable Spidey movie without stuntwork, CGI and effects.

Bright side, if they devalue the franchise Marvel can afford to buy it back.

I'm sure it will have some stuntwork, CGI & effects, but at 80 million for a movie of this type, probably not a lot.

[BlueBard]

Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg6v1dgTcxw

Spoiler

Marvel/DC Parody of Spider-Man reboot, by JustSomeRandomGuy

[deano_ue]

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE

i know your pain

[docdelorean88]

It won't play for me.

[crimsonquill]

It won't play for me.

Play the HQ version.. RandomGuy said that an error occured with the regular version and will be fixed eventually (when YouTube gets around to it).

Extremely funny video btw... "Sony Presents Sony's Spider-Man by SONY!"

- CQ

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

My biggest concern now is that, with Sony pushing for more romance, and then hiring a director that's done nothing buy a moderately successful romantic comedy, we'll end up with 500 days of Mary Jane, a romantic comedy about the difficulties of a high school geek and the popular girl that he loves, made more difficult by the occasional and seemingly random appearance of some costumed villain that keeps a distance between them.

[BentonGrey]

Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg6v1dgTcxw

Spoiler

Marvel/DC Parody of Spider-Man reboot, by JustSomeRandomGuy

Haha, depressingly hilarious!

[TheMarvell]

you know what the worst part about all this is?

No more Bruce Campbell. 

[BlueBard]

you know what the worst part about all this is?

No more Bruce Campbell.  

I seriously doubt THAT.  As long as Raimi is still making any kind of movie and as long as Bruce Campbell is physically able to act, I suspect that there will be more appearances... just not in a Spider-Man movie.

Ooh, and I just thought of another bright spot.  If Raimi isn't working for Sony, he's free to work for Marvel Studios.  Just not on a Spider-Man movie.

Based on this, and other things, I wonder if the day and age for exclusive, open-ended licensing of movie rights should be over?  Let the studios try to create their own superheroes if they want to own the rights indefinitely.  (Hancock... snigger.)

[Tomato]

No offence Blue, but as much as I hate Fox, you can't really say that WB and Disney don't have more or less open-ended exclusive rights now. Granted, they've both proved a better handler then Fox (well... more or less. Hopefully Marvel Studios has given WB the kick in the pants it needed, it's been about as bad overall *cough*catwoman*cough*) but I sincerely doubt we'll see anyone else net movie rights during our lifetimes. At least with Fox there's the fact that if the mess up badly enough it'll get taken from them... we have that safety net at least. But if WB puts out Emo Superman, or Disney puts out Antman the wisecracking wonder? Best we can hope for is a 1 in 100 chance they'll reboot it properly the next time.

[TheMarvell]

you know what the worst part about all this is?

No more Bruce Campbell.  

I seriously doubt THAT.  As long as Raimi is still making any kind of movie and as long as Bruce Campbell is physically able to act, I suspect that there will be more appearances... just not in a Spider-Man movie.

Ooh, and I just thought of another bright spot.  If Raimi isn't working for Sony, he's free to work for Marvel Studios.  Just not on a Spider-Man movie.

Based on this, and other things, I wonder if the day and age for exclusive, open-ended licensing of movie rights should be over?  Let the studios try to create their own superheroes if they want to own the rights indefinitely.  (Hancock... snigger.)

um, yeah, I didn't mean we'd never see Bruce again in another movie. Just that we wouldn't see him in another Spider-Man movie.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

And this appears to be the no 1 candidate.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/02/spider-man-reboot-logan-lerman-may-be-next-peter-parker.html

[deano_ue]

what is he 12, i know the character is meant to be in his mid teens but aren't actors that play that age usually around 20/21

[BentonGrey]

Bah for this whole thing.

[crimsonquill]

And this appears to be the no 1 candidate.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/02/spider-man-reboot-logan-lerman-may-be-next-peter-parker.html

Well, that officially proves that a more Ultimate take on Spider-Man during the reboot is one step closer..

- CQ

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

He's 18, although he obviously looks much younger.

[docdelorean88]

I think he at least looks the appropriate age. I never could buy into Toby being a highschool student. I think this could be good...or very bad.

[BlueBard]

No clue whether this is a good pick or not.  He might be able to pass for dork (which, face it, is what Parker was before he got bit by that spider).

I don't have anything against putting Peter back in High School.  That's where he started, right?  Spidey was a teenager in the comics for awhile, whereas the movie version rushed to put him into college and the adult world. 

But if they follow the Ultimate version too closely I'm not really interested.  And I really, really don't want a rehash of any of the Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus or Venom right off the bat.  Because I'm sick of GG and Venom and Doc Ock was done too well in S-M2.  Time to give some of Spidey's other rogues a chance for the big screen.

[Gremlin]

I like him. He's young enough, for sure. We'll see how this goes.

[TheMarvell]

so what villain do you think the studio will use for this since they hate Vulture? I'm guessing Black Cat or Electro...or Venom again, even though they're making a spinoff movie about him.

[BWPS]

so what villain do you think the studio will use for this since they hate Vulture? I'm guessing Black Cat or Electro...or Venom again, even though they're making a spinoff movie about him.

Since its likely a reboot taking place early in Spidey's career, Green Goblin is my guess. Maybe they'll get the costume right. But I doubt they'll get someone as cool as Willem DaFoe.
Or maybe if its terrible it'll be Carnage and I can have a brain aneurysm. Wow I can't believe I spelled that right on my first try.

[deano_ue]

if they're smart they'll got the joker route with the goblin and build him up for a second or third film.

[TheMarvell]

is it true that the reason they went with the "power rangers reject" GG suit for the first film was because the toy line had an easier and cheaper time making it?

Personally, I hope they don't use GG yet. Wait until the third film of this new trilogy. I think Scorpion and Black Cat would be good choices, but that's just me.

[crimsonquill]

is it true that the reason they went with the "power rangers reject" GG suit for the first film was because the toy line had an easier and cheaper time making it?

I hate to say it... but yeah that was what The Art Of Spider-Man book said. Raimi and his artists had tons of drawings that he brought to his production meetings and they kept wanting to keep the design "simple". Sam wanted a technological look meshed with a fantasy goblinish edge (think of Lord Of The Rings infected by circuitry and hi-tech weaponry) but each time Sony marketing people said it would be "too scary" and "keep it simple the toys shouldn't have too many parts". Each version slowly went from fantasy towards technology until they started approaching the Iron Man suit angle which kinda looked a scary goblin in the mask only. Explaining it away would also be easier in the script because the glider could work as prototype vehicle and the simple green body armor could be for military use.

It's also amusing that Raimi once had designs for Goblinettes (female goons in their own Goblin costumes and gliders) among those designs in that book which I'm hoping was either early concepts while he was looking for a direction to take his movie or goofy unserious designs he threw at the marketing people to make them wince and squirm in their chair.

Here is one such concept: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BQtOW7ZUlF8/Rf1aneNYfxI/AAAAAAAACLI/h7KYrA4sVQ4/s400/greengoblin_concepts_full.jpg
or a later technological updated version: http://photos.bravenet.com/369/789/440/4/552D3C73C7.jpg

- CQ

[Podmark]

That second design is like a much cooler version of what actually got made.