AVENGERS: Age of Ultron

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HarryTrotter

#180
I will try to explain my opinion,but I know rationality is lost on some people.
1)Its not really important how somebody got their powers,except to people IN the MU.If a guy is trying to set you on fire,do you give a crap was he born with fire powers or did he stand to close to a reactor?But I have to comment:
Terrigen mist was more of an analogy for puberty and growing up,and less of empowering fairy dust.And sometimes it failed on the Inhumans themselves IIRC.It required training and preparation for 100% Inhumans.And its a bit of a stretch for it to work on people who didn't know their grandma was Inhuman,IMO.
2) Civil War.Its a somewhat passable idea,but terribly executed.What was the Act actually about?WHAT DID IT SAY,EXACTLY?Which side was right?They flipped that,OFTEN.The movie may actually fix some of these thing.But that remains to be seen.
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Tomato

Implying people are not rational for not understanding your opinion is not helping your arguments Spade. Neither is being insulting to people who are making their case to you.

I've said this once, and I will say it again(and this applies to people responding as well): be very careful here. You have been walking dangerously close to where you were not that long ago, where every post you all made was nothing more than a personal attack. It is NOT ok to call someone dumb or not rational because they don't share your opinions. If you cannot post a response without getting upset, do not post.

HarryTrotter

Quote from: Tomato on July 06, 2015, 03:52:32 PM
Implying people are not rational for not understanding your opinion is not helping your arguments Spade. Neither is being insulting to people who are making their case to you.

I've said this once, and I will say it again(and this applies to people responding as well): be very careful here. You have been walking dangerously close to where you were not that long ago, where every post you all made was nothing more than a personal attack. It is NOT ok to call someone dumb or not rational because they don't share your opinions. If you cannot post a response without getting upset, do not post.

If you actually tried to read my post,you would realise I wasnt INSULTING ANYONE.I was talking about the Inhumans specificly.If you have nothing to contribute to that theme,then dont bother posting anything.  ;)
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

Tomato

Quote from: Spade on July 06, 2015, 07:12:32 AM
I will try to explain my opinion,but I know rationality is lost on some people.

Quote from: Tomato on July 06, 2015, 03:52:32 PM
Implying people are not rational for not understanding your opinion is not helping your arguments Spade. Neither is being insulting to people who are making their case to you.

I've said this once, and I will say it again(and this applies to people responding as well): be very careful here. You have been walking dangerously close to where you were not that long ago, where every post you all made was nothing more than a personal attack. It is NOT ok to call someone dumb or not rational because they don't share your opinions. If you cannot post a response without getting upset, do not post.

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HarryTrotter

1)Its not really important how somebody got their powers,except to people IN the MU.If a guy is trying to set you on fire,do you give a crap was he born with fire powers or did he stand to close to a reactor?But I have to comment:
Terrigen mist was more of an analogy for puberty and growing up,and less of empowering fairy dust.And sometimes it failed on the Inhumans themselves IIRC.It required training and preparation for 100% Inhumans.And its a bit of a stretch for it to work on people who didn't know their grandma was Inhuman,IMO.
2) Civil War.Its a somewhat passable idea,but terribly executed.What was the Act actually about?WHAT DID IT SAY,EXACTLY?Which side was right?They flipped that,OFTEN.The movie may actually fix some of these thing.But that remains to be seen.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

Talavar

Quote from: Spade on July 06, 2015, 04:50:50 PM
1)Its not really important how somebody got their powers,except to people IN the MU.If a guy is trying to set you on fire,do you give a crap was he born with fire powers or did he stand to close to a reactor?But I have to comment:
Terrigen mist was more of an analogy for puberty and growing up,and less of empowering fairy dust.And sometimes it failed on the Inhumans themselves IIRC.It required training and preparation for 100% Inhumans.And its a bit of a stretch for it to work on people who didn't know their grandma was Inhuman,IMO.
2) Civil War.Its a somewhat passable idea,but terribly executed.What was the Act actually about?WHAT DID IT SAY,EXACTLY?Which side was right?They flipped that,OFTEN.The movie may actually fix some of these thing.But that remains to be seen.

That may have been how the Terrigen mists worked initially, but it's been retconned by the comics themselves within the past few years.  Black Bolt detonated a terrigen bomb, or some such, in the atmosphere, and random people with traces of inhuman ancestry have been getting powers.  It may not be your opinion on how it should work, but it's how Marvel has decided it works.

I always took it that the training, etc. that inhumans did before getting powers was to deal with the potentially massive changes to themselves afterward, and learning to control their powers once they had them.

HarryTrotter

Most of my info on Inhumans comes from the Marvel Knights series.And its intentionaly vague how the mist works.And yeah,I know some of the recent stuff that happend.Blackbolt going rogue?Or going Cyclops as some have said. XD
But back on the subject.As a source of superpowers,the mist is good as any other.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

BentonGrey

I think they've got a great opportunity to make something good out of something bad.  The comic may have been terrible, but the movies have shown the ability to harvest the essences of the characters and plots, put the archetypal souls of these characters on screen.  The actual concept of Civil War is an interesting one.  It isn't the superhero vs. superhero angle that makes it so, but the actual question at the heart of the story: who has the right to play hero?  The question of personal liberty vs. governmental control is a pertinent one these days, and has been for a really long time.  A superhero movie that actually explores that could be great.
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HarryTrotter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeDJAKvcZ9o
Honest Trailer  :thumbup:
We saw great Marvel villains like Loki and...I guess its just Loki...
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

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stumpy

#191
Honest Trailers is hilarious. And, they have sort of turned shooting fish in a barrel into a perfect gig. If HT makes fun of a good movie, it's a win because people like watching clips of good movies while admitting that even most good movies have some things in them that don't make much sense. (And, HT doesn't take an extremist, indefensible position that every movie they parody is aweful; instead they say, "That movie was fun to watch, but look at some of the crazy that is in it".) On the other hand, if HT makes fun of a bad movie, it's a win because people enjoy snickering at a big production that fails in an epic way.
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