Captain America 3: [....SPOILER IF YOU CLICK]

Started by Shogunn2517, October 14, 2014, 03:32:27 AM

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#30
I suppose a sequel to a major hollywood blockbuster being filmed in an American metropolitan area, we were bound to get plenty of spoiler material to be released. 

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As is such, Captain America: Civil War has started filming in Atlanta last week.  This week a call has been put out for "upscale men and women" in "dark and conservative attire to reportedly film a funeral scene.  Who's funeral?  It does not say, however anyone following the comics and Civil War as told there, there are a few deaths in the series, none more particular than Captain America.  Is this alledged funeral scene for him?  Perhaps.  Could it be for others?  Hawkeye's family?  Peggy Carter?  Ant-Man, who will also appear in Civil War has cast two high profile black actors(T.I. and Wood Harris).  Perhaps one of them could be the MCU's version of Goliath, who also dies in the comic version.

http://comicbook.com/2015/05/11/captain-america-civil-war-reportedly-filming-a-funeral-scene/

In all likelihood, the funeral scene is for Captain America.  CA:CW, which also stars Frank Grillo, Emily VanCamp and Sebastian Stan all reprising their roles from previous Captain America films and though their characters weren't as pivotal in the Civil War comic version, they were very key in the death of Captain America, which proceeded that particular storyline.  Why bring in three characters that were not at all featured in Civil War, but have VERY specific roles in the Death of Captain America IF Captain America doesn't die?  My opinion, we'll see a "death" of Chris Evans on-camera during the climax of the film and I also think that perhaps in a post-credit scene, Doctor Strange(who will debut later than year) will resurrect Rogers with the Soul Gem, which will be the object sought after in his film.  Or just ressurrected in Infinity War with either the Soul, Time, or Reality Gems.  Just a theory.

Talavar

Quote from: Shogunn2517 on May 12, 2015, 07:11:26 AM
I suppose a sequel to a major hollywood blockbuster being filmed in an American metropolitan area, we were bound to get plenty of spoiler material to be released. 

Spoiler
As is such, Captain America: Civil War has started filming in Atlanta last week.  This week a call has been put out for "upscale men and women" in "dark and conservative attire to reportedly film a funeral scene.  Who's funeral?  It does not say, however anyone following the comics and Civil War as told there, there are a few deaths in the series, none more particular than Captain America.  Is this alledged funeral scene for him?  Perhaps.  Could it be for others?  Hawkeye's family?  Peggy Carter?  Ant-Man, who will also appear in Civil War has cast two high profile black actors(T.I. and Wood Harris).  Perhaps one of them could be the MCU's version of Goliath, who also dies in the comic version.

http://comicbook.com/2015/05/11/captain-america-civil-war-reportedly-filming-a-funeral-scene/

In all likelihood, the funeral scene is for Captain America.  CA:CW, which also stars Frank Grillo, Emily VanCamp and Sebastian Stan all reprising their roles from previous Captain America films and though their characters weren't as pivotal in the Civil War comic version, they were very key in the death of Captain America, which proceeded that particular storyline.  Why bring in three characters that were not at all featured in Civil War, but have VERY specific roles in the Death of Captain America IF Captain America doesn't die?  My opinion, we'll see a "death" of Chris Evans on-camera during the climax of the film and I also think that perhaps in a post-credit scene, Doctor Strange(who will debut later than year) will resurrect Rogers with the Soul Gem, which will be the object sought after in his film.  Or just ressurrected in Infinity War with either the Soul, Time, or Reality Gems.  Just a theory.

I really think Marvel is going to play against fan expectations...
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and not kill Cap off in Civil War.  First, there's Kevin Feige's repeated comments to the press recently that the MCU is never going to take a dark turn, a la the Distinguished Competition; second, Chris Evans has already spoken to the press about his filming schedule for Avengers 3 & 4 (being shot back to back), so there's that, and like all of the comic storylines adapted by the MCU, I think the MCU version of Civil War will only have a very slight resemblance to the comic story.

crimsonquill

#32
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Steve Rogers is more likely to just quit being Captain America altogether after the events of Civil War. Maybe this might be a way to handle his NOMAD/THE CAPTAIN period of comics before he shows up again for INFINITY WAR. Steve just hands Winter Soldier/Falcon/whoever his shield and uniform and takes a leave of absence. Could make for an interesting story if he leaves with Sharon Carter to actually share in the normal life that Hawkeye got to enjoy.

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Crossbones looks so sweet man I am excited for this.
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So, there's a new story going around that gives light to one of the bigger questions people have been asking about Civil War since the film was announced:
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Black Panther's angle.

According to a leak on Instagram, T'Challa will be "on the hunt" for the Winter Soldier.  And given the set pics and leaked footage with settings similar to the scenes in Africa from Age of Ultron, he won't be alone.  However unlike Captain America and Falcon, it's doubtful T'Challa will be looking for the Winter Soldier to give him a pep talk considering his relationship with world leaders.  That said, is he looking for WS because he killed his father?   It's doubtful they'd go that route in a Captain America movie with a Black Panther movie due out in a few years.

http://www.ibtimes.com/captain-america-civil-war-black-panthers-possible-story-line-revealed-1928839


JeyNyce

This is what I don't understand, I thought Black Panther was going to be neutral, but I guess he's siding with Tony.  I hope there's more to like siding with Tony just to keep an eye on him.
Widow & Hawkeye are on opposite sides should be a good side story. 
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Quote from: JeyNyce on August 28, 2015, 08:57:19 PM
This is what I don't understand, I thought Black Panther was going to be neutral, but I guess he's siding with Tony.  I hope there's more to like siding with Tony just to keep an eye on him.
Widow & Hawkeye are on opposite sides should be a good side story.

From what I understand, he's tracking down Winter Soldier, presumably to make him answer for something he did while under Hydra control.  Naturally, he sides against him.
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JeyNyce

I heard that too.  Rumors were going around that Bucky killed T'Challa's father, but then another said that T'Challa father will be in the movie, so I don't know what to believe.  Anyway, I think this is going to be a great movie.  I expect this one to make a lot of money.  It seems like out of all the single Marvel movies, the Captain America one are doing the best in story telling and in sells.
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#41
CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR trailer!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=43NWzay3W4s

Holy H---! That last sequence though!

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Talavar

Excellent!  Winter Soldier is probably my favourite Marvel movie, so Cap 3 is very high on my list of movies to see.

JeyNyce

Saw the trailer 3 times already and after watching it for the 3rd time, if you think about it......

It's a bromance story

Cap: Bucky, you remember me?
Bucky: I do
Cap: I have to protect you
Sam: if they after you I have your back
Cap: Sorry Tony, Bucky is my friend
Tony: I'm your friend too Steve....What about me???

I'm just playing.  I'm really excited for this movie
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BentonGrey

Man...that looks good.  I just hope they give Cap/Tony enough motivation, because they ARE friends, and they settled a lot of their differences in the Avengers 2.  There is a great story that can be told here, but it needs a careful touch to tell it well.  I'm worried about where it might go and where it might end up.

Also:

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Freaking Black Panther!
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Quote from: BentonGrey on November 26, 2015, 12:28:49 AM
Man...that looks good.  I just hope they give Cap/Tony enough motivation, because they ARE friends, and they settled a lot of their differences in the Avengers 2.  There is a great story that can be told here, but it needs a careful touch to tell it well.  I'm worried about where it might go and where it might end up.

Same here. I don't know if you read the original Civil War, but that was a freaking mess on all levels, and part of that (but only part,) was because of just how out of character everyone was, with Tony being the biggest offender, and his and Cap's relationship naturally took a hit as well. In any case, this can't be a direct adaptation of that story, because if it was, then it would be a frigging awful movie. So far though, it looks like this film's going to be more inspired by the basic concept of the the comic than anything else, and in which case it might be actually be a darn good watch. But as the comic proved, it's just so easy to screw an idea like this up. So, fingers crossed.

I will say this though: It did give us this awesome Cap speech (In a tie-in, but still:) http://lowbrowcomics.com/2015/05/15/captain-america-speech-civil-war/

In the meantime, enjoy Civil War done right. Or at least in a way that doesn't make your cringe: http://mightygodking.com/i-dont-need-your-civil-war/

EDIT: Civil War also done right, or at least in yet another actually entertaining fashion: http://the-isb.blogspot.com/2007/02/civil-war-in-30-seconds.html
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Tomato

I think they're playing a lot of the conflict on Bucky.  We know from the sketchy details we have that Bucky did SOMETHING in wakanda that was bad enough to pull Black Panther into this, so I'd say it was probably something fairly horrible. So on the one hand, you have cap trying to save his friend, but on the other, Iron Man is trying to take down a supervillain. As for the registration stuff, Tony has been beaten down so many times doing his own thing that I can see him taking comfort in the rule of law

BentonGrey

Kk, I didn't read it, but I heard enough about it to know it wouldn't be something I'd enjoy.  I'm hopeful that we'll see this concept turned into something great.

'Mato, Tony taking such a position would certainly be a pretty big about face for him after his own movies.  I'm not saying you're wrong, and, in a way, it would be a logical arc for him, but it will take some narrative resources to get him there.
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Quote from: BentonGrey on December 01, 2015, 05:34:10 AM
'Mato, Tony taking such a position would certainly be a pretty big about face for him after his own movies.  I'm not saying you're wrong, and, in a way, it would be a logical arc for him, but it will take some narrative resources to get him there.

From the hints they have been dropping Tony's parents died in an "accident" and then during Captain America: Winter Soldier they showed that Hydra had been using Bucky to kill off all potential problems and among those images was the headline of Tony's parents deaths. So I wouldn't be surprised at all that Tony completely backs the registration program because all of Bucky's assassination attempts are brought into full view when the government decides to bring in all rogue enhanced people after the events of Age Of Ultron and the attack of Crossbones at the beginning of the Civil War movie.

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BentonGrey

Ahh, VERY interesting CQ, I didn't notice that.
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Quote from: BentonGrey on December 01, 2015, 02:13:06 PM
Ahh, VERY interesting CQ, I didn't notice that.

I did notice, but completely forgot.  That would definitely explain his siding against Cap especially when he's primarily acting to protect Bucky.  It also explain his very hurt "so was I" line.  Cap's essentially protecting his parents murderer, which would be a huge betrayal to Tony, but not at all one to Cap, thus being totally consistent to both character.

Kudos to the writers if they intentionally set it up that way in Cap 2.
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BentonGrey

Yeah, that could work.  That could really work.  Especially if the powers that be orchestrate things so that Tony and Cap don't really get a chance to put all of their cards on the table.
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JeyNyce

Quote from: BentonGrey on December 02, 2015, 01:10:09 AM
Yeah, that could work.  That could really work.  Especially if the powers that be orchestrate things so that Tony and Cap don't really get a chance to put all of their cards on the table.

And that's when the Black Panther steps in and set everything right.  I have a feeling he's going to be the star of the movie or that he plays an important part of it.
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BentonGrey

Ohh, I hope that is true.  That would be awesome, but from the trailers, it looks to me like he's just taking a side.  Ohh!  What if it turns out that Bucky didn't actually do some of what he's accused of, but Klaw did?
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JeyNyce

I'm hoping that Black Panther will be the voice of reason in this movie.  He choose Iron Man side just to get more information about Bucky's past and the things that he has done and then confronts them with what he learned.  That would be cool to see Bucky & Cap beat up Iron Man and then Black Panther comes in and take all three of them out, and then tell them the truth about the whole situation.  This would a great setup for the Black Panther movie.   
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I would be 100% on board with that, and it would be a good way to put the relationships back together (or start to) before the finale.  Also, I just want to see Black Panther being freaking awesome. 

Every once in a while the magnificent, ridiculous scale of the Marvel Cinematic Universe weighs on me.  How incredibly amazing is it that we are talking about a Black Panther movie?  How unlikely is it that we're waiting for a film that features Cap, Iron Man, Falcon, and the Black Panther?  Before all of this took off, I would never have believed they could have come this far, especially with such love, grace, and true heroism.
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JeyNyce

Quote from: BentonGrey on December 02, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
I would be 100% on board with that, and it would be a good way to put the relationships back together (or start to) before the finale.  Also, I just want to see Black Panther being freaking awesome. 

Every once in a while the magnificent, ridiculous scale of the Marvel Cinematic Universe weighs on me.  How incredibly amazing is that we are talking about a Black Panther movie?  How unlikely is it that we're waiting for a film that features Cap, Iron Man, Falcon, and the Black Panther?  Before all of this took off, I would never have believed they could have come this far, especially with such love, grace, and true heroism.

So true, while kids today take this for granted, parents and even grandparents long to see their heroes on the big screen!  Kids today will never know the struggle! LOL!
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Quote from: BentonGrey on December 02, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
I would be 100% on board with that, and it would be a good way to put the relationships back together (or start to) before the finale.  Also, I just want to see Black Panther being freaking awesome. 

Every once in a while the magnificent, ridiculous scale of the Marvel Cinematic Universe weighs on me.  How incredibly amazing is that we are talking about a Black Panther movie?  How unlikely is it that we're waiting for a film that features Cap, Iron Man, Falcon, and the Black Panther?  Before all of this took off, I would never have believed they could have come this far, especially with such love, grace, and true heroism.

Well said. As dumb as it may sound, the Marvel movies really mean a lot to me, especially Cap 2 and both Avengers. Seeing these characters come to life in a way that was impossible for me to even imagine when I was younger just blows my mind. They have executed so exceptionally in so many ways, heavily drawing from both the best of the source material and the most talented people in the movie business. I feel lucky to be alive during these years.
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They used Black Panther to make a bad joke.Classy. :|
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