DC animated universe

[BentonGrey]

^Question was cool.
BTW He was hinted for the Arrow,so we will see...

These things make me sad.  I wish that there was a show more to my taste that was doing this type of thing.

[HarryTrotter]

^Im kinda watching the whole DCAU again.I finished Batman TAS.Now up to Superman TAS.

[BentonGrey]

I'm watching through Superman:TAS myself.  It's better than I remembered, and I remembered it being pretty good.

[HarryTrotter]

Are Static Shock and Zeta project any good?

[BentonGrey]

Okay to good and yes.

[HarryTrotter]

^I hope so.

[thalaw2]

Static Shock is one of my favs.  I thought Zeta Project was just finding it's legs before it got cut off.

[BentonGrey]

Static Shock is one of my favs.  I thought Zeta Project was just finding it's legs before it got cut off.

Emphasis added.

Entirely true, that.

[Talavar]

I actually just watched through Superman myself, and now I'm going through Justice League.  I don't know what they were thinking at the start of Justice League, pretty much ignoring all the rich continuity they'd developed in Superman, and seeming to forget how to write that character.  I got to the first episode of the second season, and the improvement was by orders of magnitude.

Superman TAS was a great cartoon.  It never quite got the accolades of Batman TAS, but I really think it's just as definitive an interpretation of the character.

[BentonGrey]

Tal, you're right, it is just as definitive.  In fact, I'd have much rather seen anything like that than what we got in MoS.  Yeah, the first season of JLA is good, but the rest are so much better.

[thalaw2]

It's kinda hard to write superman into a team, because he's so freakin powerful.  It seems that his power levels vary from the Superman cartoon to JLA.  In some cases it seems to vary from episode to episode.  Despite this I enjoyed the Superman cartoon and JLA very much because the stories were good no matter what Supes power levels were. 

A little off subject, but I re-watched Flashpoint and enjoyed it.   IMO Supes in that cartoon is pretty powerful.

[HarryTrotter]

Its explained that hes restraining himself most of the time.Remember when stops and then curbstomps Darkseid?

[thalaw2]

Yes, but that just seems to be more of a writing tool.  Why would Supes "restrain" himself when a plane is crashing?  How does his restraint work?  Is it something he can set to different levels or is he always conscious of it?

Also, I didn't think the whipping he put on Darkseid used as much power as the one he had to give Shazam in JLU. 

[HarryTrotter]

Hes strong as plot demands him to be basicly.
BTW its not Shazam its Captain Marvel.At least it was.

[BentonGrey]

Also, I didn't think the whipping he put on Darkseid used as much power as the one he had to give Shazam in JLU.

That really depends rather heavily on just how tough Darkseid is, but yeah, it was inconsistent. For the most part, I felt like JLA did a good job with his portrayal.  It makes sense that he'd hold back when fighting non super-powered/giant-robot-type foes.  That's actually something that comes up in the comics.  Instead of punching Gorilla Grodd into fine red gorilla mist, he flicks him on the nose, etc.  Are there inconsistencies?  Yeah, even Timm and company own them in a few places through the commentaries, but those uneven bits mostly don't bother me.  That ending was actually the one that bothered me the most, but it's only one moment in the entire series, so I can give it a pass.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Part of the reason why Batman TAS gets the amount of respect and credit it does is that is was a key part of the 90's cartoon revolution, being one of the first that went from the mass produced, formulaic get enough episodes broadcast to go into syndicate then stop format used previously for kids cartoons and actually try to have a story with quality characters and superb casting.  As a result, it REALLY gets remembered, along with X-Men and Spiderman (more so the former) which were also revolutionary.  By the time Superman TAS came along, it was no longer on of the first.  It was incredibly good of course, but that was more or less expected of it.

[BentonGrey]

That's a fair point Cat.  I think that it was on the edge of my being young enough to watch it without being self-conscious, so I didn't really see it when it first aired.

[Talavar]

It's kinda hard to write superman into a team, because he's so freakin powerful.  It seems that his power levels vary from the Superman cartoon to JLA.  In some cases it seems to vary from episode to episode.  Despite this I enjoyed the Superman cartoon and JLA very much because the stories were good no matter what Supes power levels were. 

A little off subject, but I re-watched Flashpoint and enjoyed it.   IMO Supes in that cartoon is pretty powerful.

I don't just mean Superman's power level though (which was a bit of an issue; the creative teams owned up to the fact that they let flooring Superman being the villain of the week's way of showing they were dangerous, and did it better from season 2 on).  Superman's entire character seemed off at the start of the show.  Bland, humorless, and pretty much ignoring the character they'd built up over 3 seasons of his own show.

There are a few points in Justice League where they mention Superman's increasing strength, most notably "Only a Dream," where Superman's fear is that his powers will continue to grow until he can no longer control them.  It's not just power creep, but is  acknowledged 'in-universe' as well.

[BentonGrey]

It's kinda hard to write superman into a team, because he's so freakin powerful.  It seems that his power levels vary from the Superman cartoon to JLA.  In some cases it seems to vary from episode to episode.  Despite this I enjoyed the Superman cartoon and JLA very much because the stories were good no matter what Supes power levels were. 

A little off subject, but I re-watched Flashpoint and enjoyed it.   IMO Supes in that cartoon is pretty powerful.

I don't just mean Superman's power level though (which was a bit of an issue; the creative teams owned up to the fact that they let flooring Superman being the villain of the week's way of showing they were dangerous, and did it better from season 2 on).  Superman's entire character seemed off at the start of the show.  Bland, humorless, and pretty much ignoring the character they'd built up over 3 seasons of his own show.

There are a few points in Justice League where they mention Superman's increasing strength, most notably "Only a Dream," where Superman's fear is that his powers will continue to grow until he can no longer control them.  It's not just power creep, but is  acknowledged 'in-universe' as well.

That's true, he doesn't really become himself until the show has found its legs, but that's true of most of them, I suppose.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

That's a fair point Cat.  I think that it was on the edge of my being young enough to watch it without being self-conscious, so I didn't really see it when it first aired.

I was a teenager when it came out and thus spent a lot of my childhood watching said mass produced cartoons.  Not all of them were bad, necessarily, but it should be noted that it wasn't until X-Men and Batman came out that my dad was just as interested in watching these things as I was.  This should say something.

[BentonGrey]

Most definitely.

[HarryTrotter]

Finished Superman TAS.As much as  I liked it,it was getting repetative by the end.Every now and then Darkseid launches an invasion.

[BentonGrey]

I think it's strongest in the middle.  While I think Batman:TAS could have pretty much gone on forever, Superman didn't have quite the same longevity.  He just doesn't have as many cool villains to play with.

[trebean]

Bruce Timm is back baby!! With an original story to boot!!Take that lazy adaptions!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54383

Since DC announced that 1 out of their 3 movies that they release yearly would be out of continuity, anyone else hoping it's a DCAU Reunion?
The title Gods and Monsters leaves a lot to be desired though, I reaaaaaaally hope this kinda means New Gods?








Also Batman vs Robin is happening, which is supposed to be loosely based off Court of Owls, yay?

[BentonGrey]

Awesome!  Color me excited!  Yeah, let's hope for a DCAU reunion.

[Starman]

"Batman Vs. Robin" appears to be loosely based on the well-received DC  Comics' storyline "Batman: The Court of the Owls," by Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo.

The fact this is named after a Grant Morrison story, yet is supposed to be based on Snyder's big "The Court of the Owls" arc, makes me think this is going to turn into "Batman & Son Part 2" ...