New Spider-man Movie

[BentonGrey]

how about its simply to get rid of the boring blonde bimbo and bring back the one true partner for peter MARY JANE WATSON. who should be now in the comics and married for a while

NO I'M NOT STILL PO'ED ABOUT ONE MORE DAY WHY DO YOU ASK THAT, CARLY COOPER CAN SUCK IT

Ha!  This made me smile, TUE.  I feel more or less the same.  I sort of missed the Gwen Stacey stage of Spider-Man, and I rather agree with Stan Lee that her untimely demise was a point where comics took a turn for the worse.  Of course, there was a lot of that going around. *Looks at Aquaman's son*

[oldmanwinters]

Garfield invokes Shakespeare when philosophizing about axing the Mary Jane role from ASM2:

There's a reason why when Shakespeare wrote 'Romeo and Juliet,' after Romeo met Juliet, he didn't introduce another attractive female character that could be a shoulder to lean on. You know what I mean? After wherever he gets banished to, you know? [Laughs] Dramatically it just unfortunately didn't really match up with what our story needed to be.

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/andrew-garfield-calls-shailene-woodley-spider-man-departure-005114007.html

The kid has... a way with words. 

[Ares_God_of_War]

MJ started out as Harry's GF and a friend to Gwen. they could have still introduced her as Harry's GF without making her a shoulder to lean on for Peter.

[Tomato]

http://www.dailysuperhero.com/2013/07/the-amazing-spider-man-2-sdcc-panel.html

Most hilarious thing ever.

[BentonGrey]

I'll say this for the kid, he looks good in costume.

[oldmanwinters]

http://www.dailysuperhero.com/2013/07/the-amazing-spider-man-2-sdcc-panel.html

Most hilarious thing ever.

It is nice to see he's not afraid of being typecast for future roles.   

[Tomato]

http://marvelousnews.com/ig.php?mode=view&album=2013_NYCC/Hasbro/SPIDER-MAN&pic=SPIDERMAN-LEGENDS-6inch-INFINITE-SERIES-MOVIE-SPIDERMAN-A6656.jpg -Have I mentioned how much I love that costume?

[deano_ue]

so umm the new traliers out and they have shown leaked images of rhino, elecrto and the new "green goblin"  excuse me a moment




umm what really
kinda big spoilers

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harry becomes the goblin first, kills gwen and flys around in a green/black batman suit, no mask but mutated skin and white spiked hair

[Tomato]

For those out of the loop, TUE is referring to this

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Admittedly, I'm a bit concerned about the Rhino thing (though the actual trailer has it standing upright and pulling back, which I'm far happier with) but the fact that it IS Harry and not Norman in the Goblin suit actually makes me a bit more comfortable. For those who haven't seen the comic con trailer, one of the biggest themes for the film is consequences: Electro's motivation is to be noticed like Spiderman is, and Rhino's is revenge for Spiderman bullying him. The fact that it IS Harry, not Norman, under the goblin outfit fits better with the narrative and is, overall, better for the story. Plus, it gives more buildup for Norman, who I was terrified they were going to shoehorn into this one without there being enough space for it. Yes, the design for him is just silly (I would have rather gotten a more USM type look then a cross between Bale's Batman and a dark elf) but we had Green Ranger Goblin so I'll wait until we see it in action.

That said... anyone else see the Vulture wings and Octopus arms in the official trailer? Sweet.

[deano_ue]

For those out of the loop, TUE is referring to this

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Admittedly, I'm a bit concerned about the Rhino thing (though the actual trailer has it standing upright and pulling back, which I'm far happier with) but the fact that it IS Harry and not Norman in the Goblin suit actually makes me a bit more comfortable. For those who haven't seen the comic con trailer, one of the biggest themes for the film is consequences: Electro's motivation is to be noticed like Spiderman is, and Rhino's is revenge for Spiderman bullying him. The fact that it IS Harry, not Norman, under the goblin outfit fits better with the narrative and is, overall, better for the story. Plus, it gives more buildup for Norman, who I was terrified they were going to shoehorn into this one without there being enough space for it. Yes, the design for him is just silly (I would have rather gotten a more USM type look then a cross between Bale's Batman and a dark elf) but we had Green Ranger Goblin so I'll wait until we see it in action.

That said... anyone else see the Vulture wings and Octopus arms in the official trailer? Sweet.

ahh see tom

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i disagree the fact that harry is meant to be the own the offs gwen completely ruins the whole norman/peter dynamic. it removes normans biggest influence on peters life and reduces him down to simply i wan revenge for my son you big nasty hero, it also ruins any chance of harry's redemption as no matter what he does he's still gonna be the guy who killed peters first ( and if you agree with marvels ham fisted agree with us we're right only true love)

but if you believe the rumor of the reported after credits scene

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norman dies from his illness and the scene of the shot of ocks arms etc is after the credits the shadow from the lizard jail scene is the man walking the corridor who reveal norman is in cryo status tells him to wake up teasing the third movie the sinister 6

now to be fair this has been discredited and claimed to be fan trolling, but its been done so by the same people who said harry wouldn't be goblin or have a billy idol haircut

[Tomato]

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i disagree the fact that harry is meant to be the own the offs gwen completely ruins the whole norman/peter dynamic. it removes normans biggest influence on peters life and reduces him down to simply i wan revenge for my son you big nasty hero, it also ruins any chance of harry's redemption as no matter what he does he's still gonna be the guy who killed peters first ( and if you agree with marvels ham fisted agree with us we're right only true love)

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Um, Are you sure he's going to be the one to kill her? All I can find is that Harry is the one wearing the Goblin suit in this movie. All signs point to Gwen actually dying in the third film, and if anything, Harry being the Goblin and suffering a tragic fate gives Norman MORE motivation in ASM3 to kill Gwen Stacy. One thing Emma Stone and others involved have made clear is that Gwen's death in the ASM series is going to be Peter's fault in some way: Part of that could be vengeance for the death of Harry.

[deano_ue]

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the majority of leaks and set reports say harry kills gwen at the power plant finale leading to spider-man beating him within an inch of his life. the film ends with harry in a coma at ravencroft.

these are coming from the same reports that described harrys suit, which was claimed to be false but have now been proven right.

as for the other elements such as the motivation i disagree, the dynamic was always between peter and norman. peter was what he wanted harry to be. i dont know how this one is going to play out, it may just be simple revenge or it may turn out norman sacrificed his son to test the formula before he took it.  either way i think harry killing gwen or the other prominent rumor of electro having a hand in it really is a big mistake 

[Tomato]

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If that IS the case... then yes, that would be silly. But I'm not going to freak myself out on a rumor that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

[BentonGrey]

I'm rather glad I never bothered to get invested in these movies.

[Talavar]

Lot of weight being put on entirely unsubstantiated rumours here.  I'd take them with a healthy pinch - maybe a bowl or two - of salt.

[captmorgan72]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpF5M-xkI4w

[Podmark]

Well I'm mixed on the trailer. On the positive side the new Spidey suit still looks Amazing and there looks to be some great Spider-Man action coming. On the negative side I don't care for Rhino or Electro's designs, and since the first one there's something about these movies, and really can't put my finger on it, that doesn't feel right. As for the Goblin, I'm not sure yet but I could see the design growing on me.

I really don't have a problem with changing story elements from the comics into a movie...as long as I think they work. I'll just have to wait and see.


I actually just rewatched the first one a second time earlier this week. There were parts that I liked, and then other parts that just drag on. A very mixed movie. Also Andrew Garfield's inability to say words drives me crazy.

[Starman]

The trailer just looks really ... busy. Like there is a lot of plot and characters crammed in. Harry and Norman Osborn, Rhino, Electro, the suits for The Sinister Six, Peter's parents, etc.

Also, it's probably just me, but the clips of the actions scenes seem very videogame-like and disengaging.

I don't really have a problem with the new story direction, as long as its a story told well.

[BWPS]

The CG  on the first trailer looked wack but it was passable in the actual movie.  Really have to agree with the movie looking  too busy,  it could be handled well but it killed the last franchise so why even tempt fate?  Electro looks cool,  it should be a fine motion picture assuming all the rumors you guys found aren't true.

[oldmanwinters]

I saw the trailer in IMAX 3D when I went to see The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug last Friday.

Eh... I had to constantly remind myself this was going to be a live-action movie and not a PS4 video game.  Com'on Sony, Give me the human element!

[thalaw2]

I've seen 2 trailers for this now and I like it.  However, I do have to admit it looks a bit too busy.

[Gremlin]

I'm really interested in where this film goes. They seem to be doing a pretty significant re-imagining of the character's world, especially his relationship to Oscorp, which started in the first film and looks like it's going to be more expanded upon here. It's kind of like a pretty significantly altered What If? universe, and so far I'm digging it. Honestly, I don't mind at all when new stories just disregard old dynamics if they find new, better ones (remember how Mr. Freeze went from a two-bit mad scientist with a fondness for diamonds to a tragic figure living in total isolation?). I'm not saying these dynamics ARE better, because I haven't seen them in action yet, but they might be, and I found the first Amazing Spider-Man fun enough to give the creative team the benefit of the doubt.

That being said, I'm really liking turning Oscorp into a huge, shadowy organization that exists to menace the world in its own right rather than just being Norman Osborn's plot-appropriate arms dealer and bank. And the way they're setting up Electro to be more of a malevolent elemental force (he looks like he's made of storm clouds holy crap) looks rad as h*ck. I have no idea where else they're gonna take this, but I wanna find out.

[Midnite]

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 International Trailer - Rise of Electro (2014)

[bat1987]

Looks good but I think they are giving away way too much in these trailers. Should have kept some things a secret.

[deano_ue]

seen it today and honestly its wasnt great it had some decent moments but over all it was just there and kinda forgettable, thinking about it seems if webb was told he could make a romantic movie about peter and gwen and leave out all spidey and villains it would prefer it, it seemed a lot more effort went into these scenes than others

major spoilers
pros

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emma stone, she actually made me care about gwen and thats saying something because i have never cared for the character. and her death was superb. its a kinda a shame she was gwen though she played her superbly i would have loved to see how she would have worked with a more complex character like mj

gwens death, i'm so glad they actually had the jimmies to do the web line aspect i really thought the would chicken out

the cinematography was superb, with some of the webswing right down to small romantic being beautifully photographed

electro was better than i expected

cons

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villain origins, seriously does everything have to come from genetic animals and the fact the goblin "forumla" came from spiders venom. thats just lazy writing(and before someone says it yes it was lazy back when it was oz in the ultimate line)

electro though better than expected still came across very annoying and very bloody stupid with a paper thin motorization and used basiclly as a thug 

the goblin, ok it was no secret i wasnt a fan of the goblin design but the in film he was wasted, no build up apart from a passing mention of the battle suit, nothing on the glider or the pumpkin bombs and honestly his transformation and first appearance were met with laughter at the screening.

yeah you could say harry had build up and he did to a degree but if the goblin is spideys arch nemesis the fact he just shows up has a big shaky cam fight and then just gets knocked out roughly 10 -15 minutes after his first appearance is kinda poor

norman wasn't even needed for all the build up and others on here saying he was a master manipulator in this film he just gets introduced, complains about harry and the dies thats it.and with the removal of the head scene and the fact that harry is in ravencroft putting the sinister 6 together it seems old norm has been thrown on the unneeded character pile, add to the fact its now harry who kills gwen it just takes the need for norman out even more

i dont know what it was but the film seemed to drag, i found myself looking at my watch more than once

i had my reservations about this film during production but i went in with an open mind and wanting to enjoy it and hope it surprised me like the first did but sadly it was just meh and so far the low end of the summer blockbusters


this is just my opinion and i know some really wont like it but it comes from a real die hard spidey fan the film was just ok i'd say a 6.5/10

ps what the hell was an x-men scene doing after the credits

[stumpy]

Interesting. Those of us in across the pond still have a couple weeks before the general release. Too bad to hear it isn't all that great. I was kind of hoping I might be more psyched to see it than the first one in the reboot. (The first one was fine, but it felt unnecessary to see another origin story so soon after the Maguire series.)

[crimsonquill]

ps what the hell was an x-men scene doing after the credits

From what I'm reading Marc Webb is under a contract with FOX for another film under his original deal with that studio. Webb got Amazing Spider-Man as a one shot deal to see if a reboot was possible so once the first film was a hit Sony and FOX had to work out a deal so that both sides were happy with him leaving to jump on immediately with the sequels. For MARVEL it's a win win because it's promoting another of their upcoming Summer films within a MARVEL franchise movie and Sony isn't really in a position for doing those mid-credit teasers for future projects since they are not working on multiple films at one time like Marvel Studios at Disney already does.

In short, It was a contract thing for promotion and the use of Webb between 2 studios who already have Marvel film franchises. Of course the Interweb is nearly blowing up because they think FOX and Sony made some kind of crossover deal and Spider-Man might show up in X-Men Apocalypse or X-Men will show up in Amazing Spider-Man 3. Nope, not the case. Sorry.

- CQ

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Although at one point, the Oscorp building from Amazing Spiderman was going to show up in the Avengers.  The building's design was not completed in time to be added to the render for Avengers, but the deal has been made.

Even so, I'm not expecting any crossovers between studios any time too soon.

[Shogunn2517]

I cannot accurately put in words how boring this movie was.

Though I agree with TUE on much of what he said, I'll give a "Judgement Day" rating.

On the POSITIVES:

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i don't know why they tried to update the suit in the first only to go to be back to the original in AS2, but I'm glad they did.  The suit did look good... For what it's worth.

While we're at it, compared to AS1, THIS Spider-Man was MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better, better being the Spider-Man I know.  N the first he(and Peter) just seemed like d!&%.  Spiderman is wise-cracking.  He's EXTREMELY likeable and goes out his way to be YOUR FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD SPIDERMAN.  I got none of that in the first.  I got ALL of that in this one.  From knocking on Rhino's window, to walking a bullied kid home to joining the fire department.  I truly enjoyed THIS characterization.  Peter was still a jerk though.

I'm glad Gwen Stacy died the way she did.  Thank you for killing her.

Now the NEGATIVES(which are considerable):

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I'll try to keep them to a minimum, but the movie was largely BORING.  It dragged on and on and on.  Admittedly, the movie was fun when Spiderman was on screen because it's fun to be spiderman.  But when he wasn't, he was that same douchey jerk I hated from the first one.  And that as like 80% of the movie!  Too much douchey Peter and WAY too little amazing Spiderman.  Unfortunately, what really made the movie drag was the angsty love story.  It wasn't even simply angsty, but just... I'm like why am I looking at this in a freaking superhero movie?  The Harry Osborn storyline wasn't terribly exciting either.  The entire storyline with his parents could have been and should have been dropped COMPLETELY.  Seriously, why was it there?  Sorry, the movie was just boring.  Spiderman wasn't.  Spiderman was pretty cool and exciting.  But the Amazing Spide-Man 2 was unfortunately much more than just Spiderman.

I hated Harry Osborn.  I hated that funky green fungi skin disease.  I generally hate Dane DeHaan.  I don't hate him.  He just plays the same guy he was in Chronicle.  Just with a billion dollars.  Same dude.  That's it.  Hell, I actually liked James Franco's Goblin better than this Green Goblin.(did they even confirm that name at all in the movie???). That goblin actually seemed properly motivated.  This dude, he wanted Spiderman's blood?  When the venom would due just as well?  And when he found out the venom didn't work, what is he still mad at Spiderman for?

I still have plenty of problems with the writing, characterization of this movie, much like I had with the first.  They seemed to want to write suspenseful scenes and tried to make them dramatic and suspenseful, but gave no real build up or urgency or reason to care.  So I got two minutes of planes about to run into each other.  Okay, so?  Who's on it?  Why can't they just look out the window and see a airplane coming your way?  Wait?  Aunt May doesn't just moonlight at a diner, but she's the head resident at a wing at a hospital to?  After two nursing classes?  And why(how really) is Gwen Stacy able to steal a police car and drive it to the middle of a power plant?  And hit a homicidal maniac with the ability to electrocute her by looking at her?  What human being would think that is a rational thing to do EVER!?  I don't even go get my mail when the streetlight bulb goes out and she wants to play superhero sidekick all of sudden?

Oh did I mention that this movie was incredibly boring?

And don't throw a random Xmen DoFP scene at the end.  Idiots leave the theater EXPECTING the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants to be the Sinister Six now in the next movie.  Come on.

[MJB]

Personally I don't agree with you guys that the movie was boring. I enjoyed watching it. Not comic book accurate at all. This is a total Sony movie. They have twisted & altered so much that it's practically removed from the comics completely. 

Electro was MUCH more interesting to watch than the trailers showed. Spidey was fun & energetic. Great action scenes & the emotion between Gwen & Peter felt almost genuine.

Amazing Spider-Man 2 doesn't hold a candle to Cap 2 but it was a fun distraction & wildly superior to the first Amazing.