New Superman Movie

[captmorgan72]

Superman Goes Shirtless in New Man of Steel Pics

He put me to shame.

Well, I guess that throws the "its a muscle suit" theory out the window. This might turn out to be a really good Superman movie.

[Midnite]

The Man of Steel Teaser Trailers are Here!

[captmorgan72]

Saw this trailer at Dark Knight Rises. At first I was thinking this was a trailer for a Deadliest Catch movie, I missed the DC logo. 

[stumpy]

I saw some images of the new costume (like those here). Those images and some comments attributed to Zack Snyder have had me concerned that Zack and crew have confused Superman with some Grim-&-Gritty™ superhero. Then I saw some other costume mock-ups (like this one) and I am somewhat relieved. Though the latter is a fan-made movie poster, it at least confirms some of what the costume apologists have been claiming that the costume can be made lighter and more colorful in post processing. To be clear, I still dislike the costume concept as too dark and pseudo-military, but at least it isn't as bad as the earlier one, which would be more appropriate for some sort of Superman doppelganger villain, IMO.

And, FWIW, that is emblematic of my biggest concern with the new movie. I hate it when people try and make Superman more "relatable", particularly when they do it by highlighting his dark side. Superman isn't supposed to be an outlet or affirmation for our anger and need for vengeance. That isn't in any way saying that the character should be perfect and never show anger or whatever. The classic Superman has an incredibly sad backstory and every reason to be alienated - the only one of his kind (and not because he listens to different music or something but because his planet actually exploded) who was adopted and raised by loving parents, who also died just as he was entering adulthood, and someone whose abilities and perceptions make him separate and alone in a way normal people can't really understand. But, that potential for darkness never became the core of Superman because he took that incredible tragedy and forged from it an appreciation of the beauty and fragility of life and he took his unique powers and tied them to a responsibility to protect life.

None of that is to say that Superman is devoid of darkness, either. But, it doesn't define him. There are compelling dark heroes - I like them - but Superman isn't one of them. And none of that is to say he has to be portrayed as bland or as all sunshine either. His best characterizations have him with a sense of humor and even mischief from time to time. He feels anger, disappointment, and sadness at the recklessness shown to those things he holds most dear. But, his humor is not born of cynicism and his reaction to villainy isn't an underlying belief that the world is a garbage dump and it's his job to kill the rats. Once again, none of that is to say Superman can't face true evil or deal with a cynical world. Any modern hero must. Superman just does what he does without making those things part of who he is. Superman isn't Grim-&-Gritty™ and a film that tries to take him in that direction risks a fail that is as epic as the character.

I enjoyed Snyder's 300 and Watchmen. I think he did those films well. But, I am hoping that what he brings to the Superman franchise is something with a very different tenor.

[JeyNyce]

A friend of mine told me this about the Superman Trailer:

Wow it looks like they took Batman begins and put it on a boat. Do all superheroes wear a beard before they get a costume?

It does look that way, but I hope they don't go there.

[steamteck]

Tailer anti excites me and for me and a Superman film that really means something not good.

[bredon7777]

I hate, Hate, HATE the textured look of the costume.  That said, the trailer was well done enough to bump me into the "cautiously optimistic" camp.  Well see how the first full, as opposed to teaser trailer does.  It's supposed to be attached to The Hobbit .

[Midnite]

Man of Steel SDCC 2012 footage

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1DoW5F64_Jg

[Shogunn2517]

You know, I got to say, I'm a little optimistic of what I just saw, the comic-con footage made me a little more hopeful, but seriously, in movie history there are three theme songs that should absolutely survive any remakes that are made for the original and that is Shaft, Flash Gordon and Superman.  It sounds like the put Gladiator music in a Superman movie.  I mean, Hans Zimmer is good, but do we really need to re-do the theme?

[Midnite]

Hans Zimmer was given the job to score MoS, last month. I don't understand why they didn't use John William's score in the teaser and SDCC footage.

[Talavar]

To me, it makes perfect sense not to use the John Williams score.  This time around they're trying to distance themselves from the '70s films, not instantly remind everyone of them.  It's also why they didn't cast a guy who looks like Christopher Reeve.

[docdelorean88]

That cape, that glorious glorious cape... Im impressed, and i cant wait to see where this goes. It still looks a TAD too dark, as far as plotline, but man visually its gonna be a stunning movie.
Another verison, As the old one is gone now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlbzhYmH4as

[Midnite]

Anyone wonder why the red undies are gone?

Spoiler

[JeyNyce]

Dumb question moment:

How does Superman shaves???

[Panther_Gunn]

Dumb question moment:

How does Superman shaves???

Pre-Crisis, his hair didn't grow under a yellow sun, so no worries.  Even since then, they've established that he uses his heat vision reflected off of  a very hard, reflective piece of metal.  Don't know if they've come up with anything else on the subject since '91.

[Shogunn2517]

He did something similar in the animated series.  He'd look in the mirror and use heat vision reflecting from the glass.

Or I guess he could take the Hancock approach and just use his hand and scratch it off.  Wish I could do that sometimes.

[captmorgan72]

As the old one is gone now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlbzhYmH4as

So is the new one.

[Figure Fan]

Anyone wonder why the red undies are gone?

Spoiler

This made me laugh SO hard. OMG..

[Midnite]

As the old one is gone now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlbzhYmH4as

So is the new one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuBPTeDSiTM

That cape, that glorious glorious cape... Im impressed, and i cant wait to see where this goes. It still looks a TAD too dark, as far as plotline, but man visually its gonna be a stunning movie.

Cape does look awesome. 

[JeyNyce]

From the rumor mill:

http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/man-steel-feature-woman-cameo/2/

How likely is this going to happen?

[captmorgan72]

In case anybody is interested, a remixed version of the comic con trailer is here. http://vimeo.com/46158451

[Panther_Gunn]

Link

So, this is somewhat related, as it's leaked toy commercials that will be linked to the movie.  Some spoiler-ish info on the link and the videos.

Honestly, I sat watching this with my mouth agape.  And not in a good way.  I know some merchandise in the toy lines for superhero stuff has been drastically tangential, but I'm just seeing fail for these things.  "Let's make toys that have nothing to do with Superman, but market them with the movie anyway!"

[Midnite]

Trailer #2

[steamteck]

That's quite a bit more intriguing.

[Cyber Burn]

Still not quite sold on it.

[captmorgan72]

Hmmm  http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/superman-man-steel-henry-cavill-seen-wonder-woman-gina-carano

[BWPS]

Hmmm  http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/superman-man-steel-henry-cavill-seen-wonder-woman-gina-carano

She looks super tough, good choice. I have good hopes for this movie.

[captmorgan72]

Hmmm http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/batman-superman-man-steel-nolan-cant-talk-about-it-big-grin

[cmdrkoenig67]

I'm not really a Superman fan, but I think any "first" Superman film would be wise to use Lex Luthor, as he is one of, if not the most important Earthly enemy of Superman.  I'd like to see a combo of Luthor and Bizarro or Luthor and Metallo, to be honest.

Dana

I disagree. While I think Luthor is important to the mythos overall, I don't think he really needs to be in every superman film. Looking at a movie like Fantastic Four, I honestly think they'd have benefitted from not having doom at all in the first film, and bringing him in later on. By contrast, Begins didn't jump at Joker, choosing instead to spend the next movie developing him.

Its just my opinion, you're under no obligation to agree with it, Tomato...And I don't believe I said any where that Lex Luthor has to be in every Superman film.  I certainly think it would be good to at least introduce the character in the first movie.

Dana

[Tomato]

We don't know that they aren't doing that, though. Yeah, by all accounts he's not front and center in this film, but that's not to say that lexcorp won't be present and there won't be hints at the character within the world. It's Lex Luthor for goodness sake, obviously he's going to exist in some form, even if they choose not to show him directly.

That said, Zod is a better fit for the first film's villain. His origins and motivations have always traditionally been tied with Superman's, he provides a legitimate physical threat to the Man of Steel, and he doesn't have to waste film time with a lot of back-story or deep psychoanalysis. Lex Luthor is a very complex character, and I'd rather they hold off on him in the first film so they can spend the appropriate amount of time developing him in a sequel.