Iron Man 3

[Previsionary]

"Oriental" is said to be offensive by some to Asians because it refers to furniture and has been used to insult and stereotype/group entire cultures together. I had an Asian friend who was actually very offended by the word when it was used innocently in regards to Asian culture, specifically hers. I feel like it may be an over-sensationalized thing in American culture because elsewhere, it seems to be used without problem. Even here, it's not always seen as a pejorative. It's not really in the same boat as "African American," imo.

Oh, and Murs IS full of himself. He has to be to do the work he does. 

[hoss20]

Oh, I agree, Prev. I always thought that "The Orient" was also a phrase used by the Western world almost as a trade term to describe that area of the world. So, to be known by another culture's term, especially one that exploited Asians, would definitely be offensive.

I should have added a descriptor or two for my explanation of my girl friend's statement. The example isn't the same at all, like you mentioned. My friend isn't offended by the use of "African American", she just thinks it's inaccurate and, therefore, beyond silly. I guess I was just trying to show that even in our attempt to be politically correct, one sometimes has to wonder who is coming up with the "acceptable"  terms when even those we're trying not to offend don't like the term.

[Tomato]

Grah... TUE, as much as I hate to say it, Prev is r... prev is riii... *cough**gag**splutter*

Mk, in this specific instance he's not being... himself. Iron Patriot exists as a perversion of Tony's established image, and that can be accomplished just as easily with one of his actual foes as it could with Norman Osborn... Heck, MORE easily, since legitimate foes of Iron Man usually have more deep-seated reasons to WANT to pervert his image publicly (whereas Norman has less a personal issue with tony and more political motivation).

[oldmanwinters]

I think exactly the opposite is going to happen - word from Marvel was that, after Avengers, the sequels to the various stand-alone franchises would be more independent, not less-so, and that most of the set-up for Avengers 2 would come from the next round of movies to be optioned for films (characters yet to hit the big screen).  Whedon could easily make the movie "smaller & more personal" by having the villains set out to destroy the Avengers directly, rather than come into opposition to them as part of a plan to conquer the world.  If you had the Masters of Evil, let's say, take on the Avengers personally, that could easily fit Whedon's statement.

That's a good point, Talavar. 

I keep hearing talk about an Ant Man (& Wasp?) movie, but I'm just skeptical that something like that could ever succeed.  Heck, DC can't even get people interested in a Green Lantern movie, and he's one of their heavier hitters.  Still... Marvel's pretty hot right now, so they might be able to pull it off. 

[Talavar]

I think exactly the opposite is going to happen - word from Marvel was that, after Avengers, the sequels to the various stand-alone franchises would be more independent, not less-so, and that most of the set-up for Avengers 2 would come from the next round of movies to be optioned for films (characters yet to hit the big screen).  Whedon could easily make the movie "smaller & more personal" by having the villains set out to destroy the Avengers directly, rather than come into opposition to them as part of a plan to conquer the world.  If you had the Masters of Evil, let's say, take on the Avengers personally, that could easily fit Whedon's statement.

That's a good point, Talavar. 

I keep hearing talk about an Ant Man (& Wasp?) movie, but I'm just skeptical that something like that could ever succeed.  Heck, DC can't even get people interested in a Green Lantern movie, and he's one of their heavier hitters.  Still... Marvel's pretty hot right now, so they might be able to pull it off.

Ant-man is in development, but as a lower-tier (ie. lower budget and smaller expectations) film than those out so far.  Dr. Strange & Guardians of the Galaxy are two more heavily-rumoured projects from Marvel, but I don't think anything has been officially announced.

[oldmanwinters]

Ant-man is in development, but as a lower-tier (ie. lower budget and smaller expectations) film than those out so far.  Dr. Strange & Guardians of the Galaxy are two more heavily-rumoured projects from Marvel, but I don't think anything has been officially announced.

And it's the fact that all these lesser Marvel hero films are still in the "development" process that makes me think they'll just run out of time releasing them before the studio demands Avengers 2.  Obviously, we'll get another Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor movie before that happens, but unless those other characters can get their own movies before summer of 2015 (which is when I expect Avengers 2 will open), then they might lose their window of opportunity.

[XStream]

Just thought of this, but what if the big reveal at the end of Avengers was not for Avengers 2, but a Guardians of the Galaxy movie!? 

[oldmanwinters]

Just thought of this, but what if the big reveal at the end of Avengers was not for Avengers 2, but a Guardians of the Galaxy movie!? 

I thought of that myself.  The idea of a cosmic-altering Thanos battle didn't seem to mesh with Whedon's vision of doing the sequel "smaller & more personal."  I think it's entirely possible the Thanos angle might be explored in one of the Phase 2 spin-off/set-up films rather than in the Avengers sequel.

[crimsonquill]

Ant-Man movie is being done by Edgar Wright and Simon Pegg together and is rumored to start filming right after they finish The World's End (the third of their Epic Trilogy - Shaun Of The Dead & Hot Fuzz being the others in that series). Marvel has said they are putting some major money into doing the special effects for this film and come up with some very unique set designs and action scenes "that would make films like Honey I Shrunk The Kids look like low budget drive in B-Films".

- CQ

[oldmanwinters]

Marvel has said they are putting some major money into doing the special effects for this film and come up with some very unique set designs and action scenes "that would make films like Honey I Shrunk The Kids look like low budget drive in B-Films".

Kind weird that they would use an early 90s movie made for kids as the gold standard of special effects, set designs, and action scenes. 

Oh well.   

HIStK actually was a pretty impressive movie from a visual standpoint.

[crimsonquill]

Kind weird that they would use an early 90s movie made for kids as the gold standard of special effects, set designs, and action scenes. 

Oh well.   

HIStK actually was a pretty impressive movie from a visual standpoint.

I think that Marvel press person probably couldn't think of a bigger example of a film with characters surviving in a world being only an inch high and riding around on Ants. Sure it's not state of the art film making compared to modern films but they did the majority of the giant sized sets with practical effects instead of CGI which had been a huge crutch with movies these days. Comic book fans that held Avengers to such high levels of scrutiny for accuracy will probably not live with Ant-Man and Wasp moving around in a environment that is completely cheesy and looks like something that would be a ride in a Disney park.

- CQ

[MJB]

Behind the scenes photo spoiler...

Spoiler

http://www.toplessrobot.com/aimmx.jpg

[oldmanwinters]

Yahoo did a pretty cool review of each Iron Man suit seen on film thus far:
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/iron-man-suits-gallery-slideshow/iron-man-suit-gallery-2012-photo-1338838147.html

[XStream]

And now the new suit!

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=46933

Spoiler

I would be interested in the story that leads to this suit. The biggest departure that I see is less red and more...is it still gold? The pics are kind of hard to tell. From the back it reminds me of the next to most recent suit (before black suit, with the glowing orbs or whatever spread around....)

[Panther_Gunn]

And now the new suit!

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=46933

Spoiler

I would be interested in the story that leads to this suit. The biggest departure that I see is less red and more...is it still gold? The picks are kind of hard to tell. From the back it reminds me of the next to most recent suit (before black suit, with the glowing orbs or whatever spread around....)

Spoiler

Coloring-wise, it almost looks like a gold version of the briefcase armor, as seen behind him.

[laughing paradox]

The color scheme for that new suit is kinda awful.

[captmorgan72]

Ewww

[Talavar]

Isn't the colour scheme the same (ie. red and gold) as previous armours?  Just with the relative proportions of those two colours reversed?

[hoss20]

Wow. That looks horrible. Even if they tried reversing the red and gold, I could understand, but the upper arms and thighs are still predominantly gold, so that didn't even work. Plus, I'm sure that when Marvel went to the red and gold look decades ago, they looked at a gold torso, gloves, and boots with red arms and legs and decided against it for good reason. The arms might look decent with this armor if they left the shoulder pieces red. You would think that with the armor being broken into so many different segments, that they could have experimented with a number of different red and gold combinations and come up with something better than this. This all just looks like a 'change for the sake of change' kind of deal and it fails miserably.

[JeyNyce]

Teaser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=askHCPHNRsM

[JeyNyce]

Old rumors about the Iron Patriot...OR Detroit Steel

http://latino-review.com/2012/05/30/iron-man-3-include-iron-patriot/

Here's a crazy though: Could it be a new War Machine armor?

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

It's not crazy.  It was confirmed weeks ago that the Iron Patriot looking suit would be a repaint of the War Machine suit, with Rhodes still inside.

[XStream]

Is it just me or does the suit look more silver in the teaser than the previous images...?

[JeyNyce]

Pics:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/173293-new-photos-from-iron-man-3-released?utm_campaign=facebookfan&utm_source=facebookfan&utm_medium=referral

[BentonGrey]

Yaaaaaaay!

[BentonGrey]

So, what the heck?  I'm confused, excited, but confused.  We heard everyone saying that the Mandarin WASN'T going to be in this movie, but here we have the first trailer, and who should we see?  Well, I'm super excited, and very glad to hear that rumor was incorrect.
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/marvel/ironman3/

[BlueBard]

The color scheme for that new suit is kinda awful.

I'm not liking it much.  But that won't keep me from watching the movie when it comes out

[Tomato]

So, what the heck?  I'm confused, excited, but confused.  We heard everyone saying that the Mandarin WASN'T going to be in this movie, but here we have the first trailer, and who should we see?  Well, I'm super excited, and very glad to hear that rumor was incorrect.
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/marvel/ironman3/

See that's what they call misdirecting the fan base... like Nolan shouting "No Robin" from every rooftop and then giving us robin in movie 3. To be fair, we have known about mandarin actually being in it since they started talking about the armor wars stuff.

[BWPS]

Holy crap, again?

Marvel Studios is the best invention since agriculture.

[captmorgan72]

Why does Mandarin sound like a muppet?