Avengers Footage

[bredon7777]

Yeah, I still think that the problem with Norton came down to money, and Marvel really should have just shoved enough money at the guy to make the problem go away.  He's an amazing actor, and he did a suitably amazing job.

Nope. Norton wanted script approval (he wound up re-writing a significant chunk of The Incredible Hulk, apparently) and Joss wasn't going to give it to him.

[BentonGrey]

Well, Incredible Hulk turned out great, so maybe he had a point.  Either way, I'm extremely sad that they didn't manage to bring him back as Banner.

[JeyNyce]

Well, Incredible Hulk turned out great, so maybe he had a point.  Either way, I'm extremely sad that they didn't manage to bring him back as Banner.

Do you think the people care more about Banner or Hulk?  I think that's why they didn't want to work with Norton.

[BentonGrey]

Well, Incredible Hulk turned out great, so maybe he had a point.  Either way, I'm extremely sad that they didn't manage to bring him back as Banner.

Do you think the people care more about Banner or Hulk?  I think that's why they didn't want to work with Norton.

What's one without the other?  I certainly enjoyed the awesome Hulk action in the movie, but Norton's scenes as Banner are what made the movie more than just dumb action.

[Tomato]

To be perfectly honest, I'm fine with Norton's replacement in this case (though I'd have wanted him back for actual Hulk movies) just because I think that Avengers had more than enough ego in it as is. Don't get me wrong, the cast is great, but from a working perspective I imagine it's hard enough fitting Downey into an ensemble flick without he and Norton butting heads over screen time and such.

[bredon7777]

Well, Incredible Hulk turned out great, so maybe he had a point.  Either way, I'm extremely sad that they didn't manage to bring him back as Banner.

With any other writer he might have had a point. With Joss Whedon, not so much.

[Previsionary]

international footage. Not in english, but shows off some more footage:

http://io9.com/5869313/the-avengers-international-trailer-shows-off-new-scenes-from-whedons-big-picture

[UnkoMan]

Man, I sure have seen a whole lot of Captain America sans mask.

I was just saying to somebody the other day how I hate when they cast known actors as fully masked superheroes, and then those actors don't want to wear the mask. It's just so off putting to me, seeing them in full costume but without the mask. Heck, even seeing Thor without his helmet bugs me and I, admittedly, kinda liked that movie.

But anyhow, fanboy complaints aside, I'm still pretty jazzed about this whole thing.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

I don't mind it so much in this case, since his identity is hardly a big secret.  I mean the US Army went and publicized it during WWII, so it's not like anyone who does the basic research can't figure it out, assuming they get over the whole should be in his 90s thing.

[Previsionary]

I don't mind it so much in this case, since his identity is hardly a big secret.  I mean the US Army went and publicized it during WWII, so it's not like anyone who does the basic research can't figure it out, assuming they get over the whole should be in his 90s thing.

That's not even mentioning how often Steve used to and still does walk around without a mask on when he's not on a mission (and even that doesn't stop him these days). I don't see it as a huge deal for him. It's been a long time since he's used his mask as something to hide his identity. Also, who's to say it was Evans decision to not wear it? A lot of that may actually be in the script, as was the case with Thor.

[UnkoMan]

Nah, it's not even about, "He's not protecting his secret identity, OMG!"
I mean, okay, in most super hero movies... what the heck? Like, Spider-Man? Granted, who the heck even knows who Peter Parker is, but at least half of New York in the movies should know what Spider-Man looks like sans mask.

Still, like I said, it isn't about that... It's about when I see masked characters, I see them with the mask on. Type "Captain America" into google images. How many pictures are him in his uniform with his mask down? If he's having an Avengers meeting, maybe, but in battle?

I don't even like seeing Hawkeye without a mask. What is that? At the very least a pointy domino mask.

I just want my super heroes to wear masks.

[Previsionary]

Russian trailer with a few more scenes (English annotations): http://youtu.be/u61haLePr_M

[captmorgan72]

I know its a small detail but Thor is not a half god. Are they confusing him with Hercules?

[BentonGrey]

The Hawkeye thing does bother me a bit.  I agree with Unko, they could have done SOMETHING to at least nod to his costume.  Despite that, this movie looks like pure, unbridled awesomeness.  I cannot WAIT to see this movie.

[RTTingle]

I'm ok with Hawkeye.  His costume doesn't translate well, so I can handle the changes fine without any rage.  However, him having a pair of purple tech glasses - ie M:I4 or TDKR's Catwoman would have been more than suitable to replace any kind of mask.

-RTT

[Talavar]

I know its a small detail but Thor is not a half god. Are they confusing him with Hercules?

I believe they call him a demigod in the English.  While not technically accurate, it's more representative of his power-level than just calling him a god would be.

[BentonGrey]

Yep, I think that's about the size of it Talavar.

[JeyNyce]

The only reason I can see with Hawkeye not wearing a mask is that he uses a bow & arrow.  You need to have a clear sight of what you're shooting at, so a mask would just get in the way of that.  I know HollyWood can "fix" stuff like that, but I guess they wanted to make it more believable.

[Tomato]

Ok, so... resurrecting this thread because I've come across something that really rubbed me the wrong way.

So, you guys know me fairly well. I'm not normally the guy who b****es about the costumes or anything because, overall, I feel like they've gotten enough RIGHT on these films that I can overlook Hawkeye's lack of wolverine-mask or CA's lack of wingtips... I feel like the movie costumes look pretty awesome overall so I overlook these issues. However, there's one costume that I've been seeing a bit of lately and I must confess... I hate it. Whose costume could be so terrible that I, the guy who has done nothing but defend the costumes from before the movie came out, would hate it? None other then the Incredible Hulk.

Not the CG model mind you. That looks ok, if maybe a little too Ape-like for me personally. No, it's his outfit. It's absolutely horrid.

"Um... Tomato? Hulk just has ripped up pants. WTF are you going on about?"

Well, apparently, all evidence to the contrary... there is a way to eff up the Hulk's simple attire. Every piece of merchandise I've seen has Hulk in these near-white khaki pants that clash so badly with the mud-green of his skin. I look at that, and all I just want to shake the character designer. Put him in blue jeans, put him in a shade of khakis that DON'T clash with the green skin, put him in black pants, I don't care. It's like they just went out of their way to find the one color that would clash epically on every piece of merchandise they made.

Do I think it will affect the movie? probably not. I doubt we'll see the hulk clearly enough for long enough that it'll really be noticeable. But it just torques me that everything hulk-related I see coming out makes me want to wash my eyes out with soap. It's the friggin HULK. it's not that hard to get it right, jebus.

[Mr. Hamrick]

Well, apparently, all evidence to the contrary... there is a way to eff up the Hulk's simple attire. Every piece of merchandise I've seen has Hulk in these near-white khaki pants that clash so badly with the mud-green of his skin. I look at that, and all I just want to shake the character designer. Put him in blue jeans, put him in a shade of khakis that DON'T clash with the green skin, put him in black pants, I don't care. It's like they just went out of their way to find the one color that would clash epically on every piece of merchandise they made.

I'm guessing the logic is that whatever he is wearing at the time he turns in the movie (which might be a pair of khaki pants) will be what is ripped up on the Hulk figure. 

Personally, I never got why the Hulk always wound up in the ripped purple pants regardless of what he was wearing when he changed.

[Tomato]

It fluctuated from artist to artist, but I read a bit in Wizard that explained it a bit... Basically the gamma radiation from "Hulking out" affects certain common clothing dyes and turns them purple.

That said, it's all moot here... it isn't like they didn't have a choice as to what whatshisface would be wearing as Banner. They gave him his clothes. Someone should have looked at it and been like "hmm those pants don't look good against Hulk's mud-green skin"

[Talavar]

The Superbowl Avengers commercial is up at numerous spots around the web.  Interesting stuff!

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Here's the official extended one, if the link even works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bGt-saFvkNk

Yep it does.  They were handing this out if you "like" their facebook page, but you only need to know the link to see it, so there you go.

[JeyNyce]

This version was way better than the one they show at the Super Bowl.

I have an army

We have a Hulk

[JeyNyce]

Also..

Anybody notice Tony's drinking?  I wonder if they will play on that...

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

I doubt they will.  Too many heroes and too much to do.  They may bring it up more in Iron Man 3 though, which is being filmed now.

[MJB]

Lots of love for the Hulk in this trailer. I approve.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Well, the Hulk is CGI, so this is the first time they really have enough of that done to actually show.  Same with the spacecraft or whatever they are.

I'm just hoping the army is indeed the Skrull.

[MJB]

Well, the Hulk is CGI, so this is the first time they really have enough of that done to actually show.  Same with the spacecraft or whatever they are.

I'm just hoping the army is indeed the Skrull.

Found this exerpt from Empire Magazine via CraveOnline.

"Who said they were aliens?" he teases. Beings from the Nine Realms, then, ventures Empire? "Closer...It's not Skrulls, I've been clear about that. Beyond that, we want to hide it. The identity of the alien race is not impactful. It exists in the comic books, but we're not setting up the Kree-Skrull war or anything like that."

[Talavar]

It's a shame that they aren't Skrulls (which I had heard before, this is just more confirmation of that) and that they aren't setting up the Kree-Skrull war.  I've heard that Skrulls were legally ambiguous between Marvel & Fox (ie. that they were part of the Fantastic Four licence), and their use by Marvel could have led to a lawsuit from Fox.  I really hope they aren't some kind Norse baddie; that turns the Avengers into basically a Thor sequel.