X-Men Origins: First Class update

Started by Podmark, December 18, 2009, 02:42:28 AM

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Talavar

Well, we can do a bit of it right now:  Warner Bros. has all the DC licenses, including Wildstorm & Vertigo, because Time Warner owns DC.  Fox has the X-Men, Daredevil and the Fantastic Four, which includes Silver Surfer, Namor (I think) and the Super-skrull.  Sony has Spider-man.

lugaru

Hope these expire soon, marvel has been doing a bang up job of releasing movies. And while DC failed again and again over the years it looks like they might finally be in a good place AND with control of all their properties. I would not be surprised if they jump way ahead in the comics movie game soon... I mean unless they are commited to not making great movies.

Previsionary

New news... and it worries me:

Quote from: http://marvel.com/news/all.13712.x-men~colon~_first_class_casting_updateThe film, set to debut June 3, 2011, will follow the formative years of the X-Men and the relationship between Charles Xavier and Erik Lehnsherr, a.k.a. Magneto.

Deadline Hollywood had news earlier this week that January Jones, the Emmy and Golden Globe-nominated actress who plays Betty Draper on AMC's "Mad Men," will play Emma Frost. Jones will undoubtedly bring a chilly air to the telepathic villainess-turned-X-Man also known as the White Queen!

Also reported was Rose Byrne, set to play Moira MacTaggert, Xavier's longtime love interest in the X-Men comics. Byrne, who stars in the TV series "Damages" also seen in "28 Days Later," "Sunshine" and "Knowing," will undoubtedly make things interesting for the young Professor X, played by James McAvoy.

The demonic Azazel will be brought to the silver screen by British actor Jason Flemyng. Having previously worked with "First Class" director Matthew Vaughan on "Layer Cake," "Stardust" and in a brief cameo in "Kick-arse," the two have clearly developed a rapport that will continue here!

The young Zoe Kravitz joins the cast as Angel Salvadore, a character who first appeared in Grant Morrison's run on NEW X-MEN. Kravitz may not have many credits to her name just yet, but she's sure to make an impression on moviegoers and comics fans alike with her turn as this interesting mutant!
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GogglesPizanno

I loves me the comic book movies. But i don't think its possible for me to be any less interested in this film...

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Some of the characters I've heard that are supposed to be in this movie are bizarre. I actually suspect (hope) that they're just being misleading.
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Quote from: GogglesPizanno on August 20, 2010, 01:05:21 AM
I loves me the comic book movies. But i don't think its possible for me to be any less interested in this film...

Yeah, I feel more or less the same way.
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Quote from: Previsionary on August 19, 2010, 11:22:59 PM
New news... and it worries me:

Quote from: http://marvel.com/news/all.13712.x-men~colon~_first_class_casting_updateThe film, set to debut June 3, 2011, will follow the formative years of the X-Men and the relationship between Charles Xavier and Erik Lehnsherr, a.k.a. Magneto.

Deadline Hollywood had news earlier this week that January Jones, the Emmy and Golden Globe-nominated actress who plays Betty Draper on AMC's "Mad Men," will play Emma Frost. Jones will undoubtedly bring a chilly air to the telepathic villainess-turned-X-Man also known as the White Queen!

Also reported was Rose Byrne, set to play Moira MacTaggert, Xavier's longtime love interest in the X-Men comics. Byrne, who stars in the TV series "Damages" also seen in "28 Days Later," "Sunshine" and "Knowing," will undoubtedly make things interesting for the young Professor X, played by James McAvoy.

The demonic Azazel will be brought to the silver screen by British actor Jason Flemyng. Having previously worked with "First Class" director Matthew Vaughan on "Layer Cake," "Stardust" and in a brief cameo in "Kick-arse," the two have clearly developed a rapport that will continue here!

The young Zoe Kravitz joins the cast as Angel Salvadore, a character who first appeared in Grant Morrison's run on NEW X-MEN. Kravitz may not have many credits to her name just yet, but she's sure to make an impression on moviegoers and comics fans alike with her turn as this interesting mutant!

That does not sound good.  They are hyping it up way too much
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TheMarvell

Bryan Singer revealed some points about the movie:

http://movies.ign.com/articles/111/1114975p1.html

--The two leads will be in their late twenties.
--Xavier will not be in his wheelchair, but we will learn how he gets there.
--He'll also still have hair.
--Xavier and Magneto will create the X-Men together.
--This is not based on the comic book called First Class but rather is "a new beginning" for the series.
--Director Matthew Vaughn is "technologically inspired" by the James Bond tech of the '60s.
--The costumes will be more "comic bookish" than in previous films.
--Neither Cyclops nor Marvel Girl will show up, but Cyke's brother Havoc will.
--Kevin Bacon will play Sebastian Shaw and, yes, the Hellfire Club will figure into the mix.
--Filming begins with Xavier at Oxford University.
--The movie will have a much more international feel than previous installments. (The shoot will take place in England and the U.S.) Other locations will include Russia (though they won't actually film there).
--There are other characters in the film who have not been revealed yet.

Hmmmm. I don't know. I was hyped when Singer came back as director, but now, I don't know. First Class without Cyclops? Thought for sure he'd be the main one they'd want. So who does that leave? Beast, Emma Frost...and Havoc replacing Cyclops perhaps? Seriously, who are they going to use? Jubilee? I also don't like "the costumes will be more comic-booky". I'm a geek and all, but the costumes in the previous films were perfect, imo (yes, I realize it was mostly a lack thereof, but that's exactly the point).

Some good talent here, but these bits of news aren't very convincing yet.

lugaru

At this point all I can really do is start ignoring first class and hope that it sneaks up out of nowhere and punches me in the gut with awesomeness. That way if it does suck, well, no skin off my back.

GogglesPizanno

Quote from: TheMarvell on August 21, 2010, 02:19:50 AM
Hmmmm. I don't know. I was hyped when Singer came back as director, but now, I don't know.

Singer is just producing.
Its being directed by Mathew Vaughn who did Kick-arse, Stardust and Layer Cake.
I actually think Singer is overrated as a director, and doesn;t handle action very well. Ive generally liked Vaughn's stuff.... but its not enough to overcome the seemingly disorganized, convoluted and overly crammed hodge podge that this film seems to be.

TheMarvell

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Quote from: GogglesPizanno on August 21, 2010, 08:17:45 AM
Quote from: TheMarvell on August 21, 2010, 02:19:50 AM
Hmmmm. I don't know. I was hyped when Singer came back as director, but now, I don't know.

Singer is just producing.
Its being directed by Mathew Vaughn who did Kick-arse, Stardust and Layer Cake.
I actually think Singer is overrated as a director, and doesn;t handle action very well. Ive generally liked Vaughn's stuff.... but its not enough to overcome the seemingly disorganized, convoluted and overly crammed hodge podge that this film seems to be.

yeah, I know Singer is only producing now. I was just saying, he was originally announced as director, which got me excited, and then he backed off because he's filming something else (I really like him as a director)

Rotten Tomatoes has this news as one of the 3 rotten ideas of the week. I'll copy/paste:

"#3 THIS WEEK IN X-MEN: FIRST CLASS CASTING: NIGHTCRAWLER'S DAD AND NOT THE ANGEL WE WERE EXPECTING

The X-Men: First Class comic book was mostly about the original 5 members of the team (Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, Angel and Iceman), but the X-Men: First Class movie appears to have a much larger student body. Among those to join the cast this week were January Jones (Betty Draper from Mad Men), replacing Alice Eve as Emma Frost. Similarly, although there had been earlier reports of Rosamund Pike playing Dr. Moira MacTaggert, that role is now to be played by Rose Byrne (Get Him to the Greek). There had been rumors that not all of the roles that are being announced are necessarily what the roles really are, so that might be part of the confusion here. The role of Angel has also been cast, but instead of Warren Worthington, this Angel is actually Angel Salvadore, whose mutant abilities replicate those of a house fly (insectoid wings, the ability to spit acid). Jason Flemyng (Calibos from Clash of the Titans) joined the cast as Azazel, who in the comics belongs to an ancient race of mutants who looked like demons (complete with red skin and a tail) and is the father of Nightcrawler. Oliver Platt (Lake Placid) has also joined the cast as a non-mutant character called "The Man in Black" who doesn't appear to have a known parallel in the comic books (unless he's really someone we actually do know). In other mutant movie news, 20th Century Fox is reportedly now considering two different directors for X-Men Origins: Wolverine 2 (or whatever it ends up being called). The two candidates are David Slade (30 Days of Night, The Twilight Saga: Eclipse) and Robert Schwentke (The Time Traveler's Wife and the upcoming Red). Because Schwentke is already considering several movies as his next project (including R.I.P.D. as reported last week, Slade is perceived as being the likely director Fox will end up hiring. I am collectively putting all of this news in the "Rotten Idea" column this week because X-Men: First Class is sounding increasingly more like X-Men: The Last Stand, a movie with such a huge ensemble cast that there is no time for any individual characters to properly develop. The news about Wolverine 2 may not itself be rotten, but it gets lumped in here because Wolvie's an part of the team, whether he likes it or not."


so, they're replacing Angel with Tempest?  :huh:

and Nightcrawlers dad? I guess that's accurate to the comic origin (correct me if I'm wrong) but I kind of liked the X-men Origins Wolverine videogame take, where Wraith is the father (there's a cutscene where Mystique tells him they're having a baby, and he asks her what he thinks of the name Kurt. It makes sense, given his mutant ability, but I digress).

score yet another "not-so-good" sounding news

deano_ue

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/106051-major-x-men-first-class-details-emerge

so let me get this right emma frost was freed by xavier but is now the white queen of the hell fire club. damn thats really disturbing under age prevy or some fast maturing

catwhowalksbyhimself

Since Emma was never named in Wolverine, they'll probably just pretend like that wasn't her at all, but some other diamond form mutant.
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JeyNyce

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Please give it up.  You had 2 great X-Men movies and a good spin off.  Please quit while you're ahead.  Give it back to Marvel.  Thanks
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Quote from: JeyNyce on August 22, 2010, 12:46:35 AM
Dear owners of FOX

Please give it up.  You had 2 great X-Men movies and a good spin off.  Please quit while you're ahead.  Give it back to Marvel.  Thanks

Good spin-off?  When? :P
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Quote from: BentonGrey on August 22, 2010, 02:53:06 AM
Quote from: JeyNyce on August 22, 2010, 12:46:35 AM
Dear owners of FOX

Please give it up.  You had 2 great X-Men movies and a good spin off.  Please quit while you're ahead.  Give it back to Marvel.  Thanks

Good spin-off?  When? :P

X-Men Origins: Wolverine is heavily flawed but at the end of the day it is not bad as a comic book movie. My main pet peeves where how serious the story is and I found the fights to be weightless... too much shoddy wirework. But yeah, Jackman has always made Wolvie both charming and deadly and in Origins a lot of the charm is bled out.

I also dont mind X3... it has a lot of flaws but it also has a lot of really awesome moments. Still X2 set the bar REALLY high.

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Quote from: lugaru on August 22, 2010, 03:58:06 AM
Quote from: BentonGrey on August 22, 2010, 02:53:06 AM
Quote from: JeyNyce on August 22, 2010, 12:46:35 AM
Dear owners of FOX

Please give it up.  You had 2 great X-Men movies and a good spin off.  Please quit while you're ahead.  Give it back to Marvel.  Thanks

Good spin-off?  When? :P

X-Men Origins: Wolverine is heavily flawed but at the end of the day it is not bad as a comic book movie. My main pet peeves where how serious the story is and I found the fights to be weightless... too much shoddy wirework. But yeah, Jackman has always made Wolvie both charming and deadly and in Origins a lot of the charm is bled out.

I also dont mind X3... it has a lot of flaws but it also has a lot of really awesome moments. Still X2 set the bar REALLY high.

I didn't say it was bad, though I would certainly argue it is.  I think it can certainly be classified as "not good," however.  Ha, it was a semi entertaining action movie, but not much good as a comic movie....of course, Wolverine: Origin itself isn't a particularly good book....so it was at a disadvantage to start with.  I actually enjoyed X3, too.  It wasn't much good as an X-Men movie, really, and it was pretty deeply flawed, but it was entertaining.  It was just a disappointment overall, considering what I had been hoping for.
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GogglesPizanno

Wolverine was a terrible movie...
I tried re-watching it recently thinking that maybe i was just being too hard on it when it came out... I wasn't.

i tried the same thing with X3 as well.
Again... really bad.

Now that i really think about it, X2 was really the only "good" x-men related movie.


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Quote from: GogglesPizanno on August 22, 2010, 05:09:39 AM
Wolverine was a terrible movie...
I tried re-watching it recently thinking that maybe i was just being too hard on it when it came out... I wasn't.

i tried the same thing with X3 as well.
Again... really bad.

Now that i really think about it, X2 was really the only "good" x-men related movie.



Ehh, X-Men 1 was good, just rushed.
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Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on August 21, 2010, 11:36:35 PM
Since Emma was never named in Wolverine, they'll probably just pretend like that wasn't her at all, but some other diamond form mutant.

You mean some other diamond form, all-white wearing, blonde female mutant?

lugaru

Quote from: BentonGrey on August 22, 2010, 05:36:13 AM
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on August 22, 2010, 05:09:39 AM
Wolverine was a terrible movie...
I tried re-watching it recently thinking that maybe i was just being too hard on it when it came out... I wasn't.

i tried the same thing with X3 as well.
Again... really bad.

Now that i really think about it, X2 was really the only "good" x-men related movie.



Ehh, X-Men 1 was good, just rushed.

Yeah, a little rough in hindsight but a total game changer when it came out.

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The more I read about Singer's new X-Men project the less interested I get.

I enjoyed the first 2 X-Men movies but X2 is the best of the bunch.

X3 was a horrible film that can never be forgiven. Honestly, who puts Colossus and Juggernaut in the same film...and never have them meet. We get Wolverine vs Juggernaut instead. A comicbook/cinematic crime.

Wolverine Origins was even worse than X3. I didn't think it would be possible to make it worse...but they sure showed me.
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Quote from: Courtnall6 on August 22, 2010, 03:00:45 PM
The more I read about Singer's new X-Men project the less interested I get.

I enjoyed the first 2 X-Men movies but X2 is the best of the bunch.

X3 was a horrible film that can never be forgiven. Honestly, who puts Colossus and Juggernaut in the same film...and never have them meet. We get Wolverine vs Juggernaut instead. A comicbook/cinematic crime.

Wolverine Origins was even worse than X3. I didn't think it would be possible to make it worse...but they sure showed me.


I definitely agree about the lack of Colossus/Juggernaut....just stupidity.  Still, I was entertained by the film when I saw it.  It was a huge disappointment, but not necessarily terrible as an action flick.  As a story about characters I love, though....well, that's something else.
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I liked Wolverine for what it was... a semi-decent action flick that got carried away trying to sell me on other FOX projects (Deadpool, FC, Wolverine 2, etc.) and that needed a month or so of more dedicated cgi work.

BWPS

Wolverine was SO much better than X3. It was actually pretty decent during the first half. Like lugaro said, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine is just brilliant. Like with Iron Man, movie Wolverine is actually better than comics Wolverine. In X3, I didn't even notice if he was good because it is the worst movie ever in so many ways.  I really don't see how they are able to make such bad X-Men movies as X3 and the end of Wolverine. They take the greatest possible source material, get good to amazing actors to play the parts, film some exciting action scenes, and then throw something totally random and stupid into the movies that really doesn't even sound anything but horrible and stupid on paper.
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I will never, ever, understand the utter hatred for X3. Nor can I understand how anyone can say Wolverine was in any way better than it. Neither are perfect films, and both are easily considered not as good as the first 2 Singer films, but horrible? worst comic movie(s) ever? Seriously? I know it's been discussed to death on this board, and everyone's got their opinion so there's no need to get into it, but c'mon. If these are even remotely considered the worst of the comic movies, I think we're pretty well off. But in no way do these 2 movies even compare to the crap like the Schumacher Batmans, or even Fantastic Four or Ghost Rider.

JeyNyce

X3 had the same problem that Spidey 3 had: too many characters, not enough time to tell all of their stories.  Spidey 3 would have been great if they told Venom story.  X3 would be good also if they would have went more in dept with the charcters, but there were too many and not enough time to tell them all
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Quote from: JeyNyce on August 26, 2010, 01:58:24 AM
X3 had the same problem that Spidey 3 had: too many characters, not enough time to tell all of their stories.  Spidey 3 would have been great if they told Venom story.  X3 would be good also if they would have went more in dept with the charcters, but there were too many and not enough time to tell them all

Oh, there were far more then just one problem with each film...
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Quote from: kkhohoho on August 26, 2010, 04:19:20 AM
Oh, there were far more then just one problem with each film...

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