X-Men Origins: First Class update

Started by Podmark, December 18, 2009, 02:42:28 AM

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Well this could be a good sign. Bryan Singer is returning to direct the fourth (or is it fifth?) X-Men film.

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BentonGrey

I would really like to see Angel in a movie...ohh wait, they already screwed that up....*shrug*  I could be interested in a classic X-Men line-up, but that isn't necessarily what we'd be seeing.
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I started clapping when I read this last night. SO happy. I think he'd do well with the core X-Men at a young age.

gengoro

Who's gonna be in it? Theres Jean, Storm, Beast, and Cyclops.  Just those 4?

BlueBard

Quote from: gengoro on December 18, 2009, 06:07:09 AM
Who's gonna be in it? Theres Jean, Storm, Beast, and Cyclops.  Just those 4?

Beast is kinda problematical...

In the movie franchise, Hank didn't grow fur until Stryker's tinkering with Cerebro.  I have a bit of trouble suspending my disbelief at an un-furry Kelsey Grammar bouncing around and I suspect most everyone else would, too.  I would frown on any storyline that conveniently ignored that bit of trivia, too.

I wouldn't be that upset if they completely recast, though.  Except for Patrick Stewart as Prof X... I can't imagine anyone else in that role.
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Quote from: BlueBard on December 18, 2009, 01:44:26 PM
Quote from: gengoro on December 18, 2009, 06:07:09 AM
Who's gonna be in it? Theres Jean, Storm, Beast, and Cyclops.  Just those 4?

Beast is kinda problematical...

In the movie franchise, Hank didn't grow fur until Stryker's tinkering with Cerebro.  I have a bit of trouble suspending my disbelief at an un-furry Kelsey Grammar bouncing around and I suspect most everyone else would, too.  I would frown on any storyline that conveniently ignored that bit of trivia, too.

I wouldn't be that upset if they completely recast, though.  Except for Patrick Stewart as Prof X... I can't imagine anyone else in that role.

When did that come out?  I have no memory of that.
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daglob

Dunno; Hank was in one of th first two movies, but he wasn't portrayed by Kelsey Grammar. He was on TV being interviewed, if I remember correctly.

BentonGrey

That's true, but that is minor enough that they could wink at it.  Also, that could have been file footage....err...I don't know, but it would be a shame to have classic X-Men without Beast, and Beast is best blue and furry in my opinion.  Otherwise, he simply doesn't seem visually interesting enough..
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Quote from: daglob on December 18, 2009, 04:37:34 PM
Dunno; Hank was in one of th first two movies, but he wasn't portrayed by Kelsey Grammar. He was on TV being interviewed, if I remember correctly.

Yeah, that's correct. The part Bluebard is talking about happened in a deleted scene, iirc. Also of note, Beast was in earlier drafts of X2 and X1, but they kept cutting him out because they wanted Furry Beast (makeup issues) instead of Simian/human Beast... still, first class movie could easily make use of Beast before his tranformation considering what they've established now, I would think. I'd be interested in knowing how they would round out the team of mutants though considering they removed Iceman and Angel from the older class and put in Storm. Of course, they can always pull a fast one and just keep Cyclops and Jean and build a whole new class around them or something just as wacky. Weirder things have happened, right? :P
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JeyNyce

Remember in the Wolverine movie, the kids that went with Prof X?  There's your first class right there!
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I got irrationally excited at first because I thought (contrary to the continuity of the movies) that this movie would be based on the excellent X-Men: First Class series that Prev. introduced me to.  Without such being the case, I suppose that my interest in this movie his heavily contingent on what characters would make up said class.  Who went with the Prof. in that movie?
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deano_ue

guys seriously it's nothing to get excited about, it's still made by fox

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Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on December 18, 2009, 07:19:17 PM
guys seriously it's nothing to get excited about, it's still made by fox

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Quote from: BentonGrey on December 18, 2009, 05:39:36 PM
I got irrationally excited at first because I thought (contrary to the continuity of the movies) that this movie would be based on the excellent X-Men: First Class series that Prev. introduced me to.  Without such being the case, I suppose that my interest in this movie his heavily contingent on what characters would make up said class.  Who went with the Prof. in that movie?

Quicksilver, Banshee, Emma Frost, Cyclops ... that's all I can remember.

crimsonquill

Well, according to a news blurb I just read regarding an interview with Bryan Singer at the premiere of James Cameron's AVATAR...

Bryan said that he wanted First Class to focus on the relationship Professor X had with his first students and the event that sent Xavier and Magneto on different paths. He mensioned that all-new actors would be needed to play the main characters at earlier moments in their lives and he was not thrilled with the final looks of the "computer facelifts" used in X3 and Wolveine movies (used to make Magento and Xavier look far younger to fit their time in the shots requiring flashbacks).

The real question is would FOX use this film as a chance to reboot the franchise with the original five X-Men or tweak with the membership to fit within the previous movies in the X-Franchise?

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BentonGrey

I doubt they'll be willing to reboot with so much built on it, but reboots are popular these days.

Banshee....I would be interested in a team involving a Banshee that acted like he should.  I love the classic Claremont issues where he joins the team of the New X-Men.
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Quote from: BentonGrey on December 20, 2009, 05:43:36 AM
I doubt they'll be willing to reboot with so much built on it, but reboots are popular these days.

Banshee....I would be interested in a team involving a Banshee that acted like he should.  I love the classic Claremont issues where he joins the team of the New X-Men.


Honestly Banshee would be one of the last characters I'd want in it. He never really did much for me. I'd want more Nightcrawler and Angel. And a movie that actually used Cyclops well.

I'd love it if it was the Original 5, but who knows what direction they'll go in. Betcha they work in Wolverine somehow, even if only a cameo.
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Quote from: BentonGrey on December 20, 2009, 05:43:36 AMBanshee....I would be interested in a team involving a Banshee that acted like he should.  I love the classic Claremont issues where he joins the team of the New X-Men.
Banshee? Maybe, Just lets not have a John Proudstar in a movie with Professor X using extreme racism and reverse psychology to recruit him.
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Reepicheep

This should be good. Most of my films are Economy Class.

TheMarvell

I thought the "computer facelifts" in X3 were really good, but not so much in Wolverine. That'll be a shame if Patrick Stewart isn't back as Xavier or McKellan as Magneto. I can't imagine anyone else in the roles.

crimsonquill

Quote from: TheMarvell on December 20, 2009, 04:54:58 PM
I thought the "computer facelifts" in X3 were really good, but not so much in Wolverine. That'll be a shame if Patrick Stewart isn't back as Xavier or McKellan as Magneto. I can't imagine anyone else in the roles.

If Bryan does keep McKellan and Stewart in their respective roles then I'd imagine he would have the CGI company revamp it so it would look far better then any version before. And I also would find it hard to have anyone else in those roles now at this point.

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Quote from: TheMarvell on December 20, 2009, 04:54:58 PM
I thought the "computer facelifts" in X3 were really good, but not so much in Wolverine. That'll be a shame if Patrick Stewart isn't back as Xavier or McKellan as Magneto. I can't imagine anyone else in the roles.

While Patrick Stewart was absolutely PERFECT as Professor X, I never really cared for McKellan as Mags.  He had a few good moments in X1 "Don't fear God senator, and certainly don't fear me....", but all in all, I felt like he just wasn't right for the part.  They needed someone altogether more firey.  It would be odd to see new people in those roles, though.
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I'd love it if they just rebooted the whole thing with the actual original X-men (even though I doubt they'd do it).

Although, I'm guessing it will be Beast, Cyclops, Jean and probably Storm...They could also possibly throw in Havok and Polaris (perhaps Sunfire and Banshee?).

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I always wanted Rutger Hauer to be Magneto.  Although he's up there in age too, I always thought he would've been perfect.

BlueBard

I could live without McKellan in the role. 

And based on X3, I could even overlook a total reboot that fixed that mess.  I hated the way Jean was portrayed in it... all of that power but no lights on upstairs, if you get my drift.  She was much too passive, too easily swayed by Magneto, and turned on her friends with too little rationale.  (Not to mention being played as if she were sleepwalking most of the time.)  What she did to Prof X was horrific but understandable.  What she did to Cyclops was not.
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DrMike2000

When I first heard McKellen was playing Magneto I wasn't convinced. I'd always pictured Mags as taller and better looking, more ubermensch really. Rutger Hauer would have been perfect.

However, once I'd seen him in X1 and X2 my opinion was totally changed. Yes, he's not physically imposing and a bit smirky and sarcastic, but has enough moments where he's pushed a bit and displays his inner fire.

To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed with this news. Singer's giving us a prequel. Why not a new storyline after X3? OK, after X2 if you dont want to deal with a dead cyclops, depowered Magneto and dead but bodyswapped Charles.
First Class and a retold origin just sounds very safe and boring.
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The should have done a Cyclopes spin-off, explaining his first years as an x-men
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TheMarvell

I was going to make a new topic, but then I figured someone must have made one already a while back. So I'm bumping this.

It's kind of old news (couple of weeks now) and I'm surprised nobody has said anything. Well, Bryan Singer is now no longer directing X-Men First Class, and is instead producing.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=9209

Kind of bummed really. He seemed really excited to get back into the X-Men films and realized he works best with an ensemble cast (acknowledging how Superman Returns wasn't his best effort). At least he's still attached I guess.

Plus, he said he's interested in doing an X-Men 4 as well.

deano_ue

seriously the x-men franchise is dead, fox will never give up the rights and just keep kicking the dead horse

lugaru

Somebody at AICN or Superhero Hype or Newsarama should do a story of which superhero liscences are held by who right now. I think all of DC stuff is with Warner but it would explain a lot of what Marvel, Dark horse, Image and the rest are doing.