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Disney buys Marvel!

Started by Renegade, August 31, 2009, 02:00:58 PM

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BentonGrey

Quote from: BlueBard on August 31, 2009, 04:46:33 PM
I'd be happy with some sensible executive decisions that made things less kid-unfriendly.

("No, you can NOT have Spider-Man make a deal with the devil...")

I don't mind my heroes being a little dysfunctional or tragic.  I don't like them being deviant psychos or  ethically twisted even temporarily, and I don't like them depressingly tragic on a permanent basis.

If Disney can have a morally positive impact on Marvel heroes without "dumbing down" the storylines, it's a good thing.

Well said.
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Quote from: Previsionary on August 31, 2009, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: Xenolith on August 31, 2009, 04:03:01 PM
Also, say good bye to the crappy comics Marvel has been producing for the last 5 to 10 years.  Comic will be kid friendly again!  Yay!

Yeah, I posted the same thing the other thread.  I'm happy.

I think you're giving Disney way too much credit. They're not that uber great company they used to be. :P. Have you seen some of the shows they allow to play on their many television stations?

True...  But if they don't at least pretend to be "family-friendly" that's bad for Disney's image.  Disney can get away with dark and edgy once in awhile, but probably not on a regular basis without doing damage to the "brand".

Probably also important to note that Marvel Entertainment is probably not going away to become Disney Comics.
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docdelorean88

I think this has great potential. Especially for when the avengers movie comes out. Bigger budget and whatnot. If it doesn't workout they will split. In the meantime DC needs to kick it into high gear while this transition is in process. Marvel beat them to the punch as far as "a team of superheroes movie" project goes. Who knows, this might light the fire for Justice League again...or not.
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Previsionary

#33
Quote from: BlueBard on August 31, 2009, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: Previsionary on August 31, 2009, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: Xenolith on August 31, 2009, 04:03:01 PM
Also, say good bye to the crappy comics Marvel has been producing for the last 5 to 10 years.  Comic will be kid friendly again!  Yay!

Yeah, I posted the same thing the other thread.  I'm happy.

I think you're giving Disney way too much credit. They're not that uber great company they used to be. :P. Have you seen some of the shows they allow to play on their many television stations?

True...  But if they don't at least pretend to be "family-friendly" that's bad for Disney's image.  Disney can get away with dark and edgy once in awhile, but probably not on a regular basis without doing damage to the "brand".

This is true, though I noticed they have been trying to mature it up a bit more in recent times. My comment, however, was more about the, "say good bye to... crappy comics [from] Marvel...," than the kid friendly comment. Just because Disney gets involved doesn't mean the comics will miraculously be the comics people enjoyed from their hey day. It depends on what restrictions Disney employs and how that affects the writers. These are the same people [writers] that complained about the restrictions a marriage for certain characters presented... now imagine those same outspoken writers with Disney restrictions.
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BentonGrey

Right, they aren't necessarily writing these stories because they have no guidance, they are writing them because serial adventure stories are hard to come up with new material for.  It's easier to twist a character than give them real development.  Unless Disney offers them the chance to start over again, I can't imagine that those problems would go away.
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docdelorean88

Quote from: The Hitman on August 31, 2009, 02:46:45 PM
Oooh! Oooh! I got it-

Marvel Zombies 5: The Magic Kingdom?!

On a serious note, I hope this means a monthly Darkwing Duck comic.
I LOVE darkwing Duck! I think there could be a serious based superherocomic from that, or at least a cool movie!

And Doctor Strange vs Maleficent would be one hell of a fight!

Look at it this way, we know there won't be any Marvel based worlds in Kingdom Hearts. If there are i will shoot someone...okay, not for real.  :)


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JeyNyce

I also believe Disney did this for the movies.  Lately Marvel has been doing very well with there movies.  who knows, in a few years we could see a Daredevil or FF reboot.  Maybe a Marvel team up with Blade and Wolverine (too much?)
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Oh god this is the most frightening thing I've heard in years! I really can see any good coming out of this.
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Xenolith

Well, by "crappy" I meant chock full of adult content.  I really do think comics should be all ages.  There will always be US1 and Team America in one form or another.

Previsionary

#39
I dunno if Disney will actually be modifying much... or I've seen reports on CBR that states as much as of this moment. Disney usually has a hands off method when dealing with stuff that isn't directly under their branch (see all the shows on ABC, Pixar (when they owned it), and Touchstone).

However, if they can stop the constant crossovers Marvel is making use of these days and promote lesser known books better than Joe Q/Marvel has been doing in general, I'll consider that a good thing.
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BlueBard

Quote from: Xenolith on August 31, 2009, 05:42:08 PM
Well, by "crappy" I meant chock full of adult content.  I really do think comics should be all ages.  There will always be US1 and Team America in one form or another.

I don't really think it's possible to get rid of all of the "mature" content, from a marketing perspective.  Our heroes are adults and should be portrayed with adult problems.  But that's a lot different from encouraging as many forms of perversion as they can get away with... those kinds of comics aren't going away either, but at least they can keep them separate from the mainstream stuff.
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Podmark

Hmm after reading some articles it sounds like for the immediate future there won't be any notable changes. It sounds like Disney will be taking a hands off approach. So I'm backing off to cautious. I don't like the idea of somebody that is not Marvel controlling Marvel, especially after it just got Marvel studies up and running.
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Midnite

Well DC/WB better step up.

Source

Quote- Disney CEO Robert Iger already talking Pixar-Marvel collaboration

- Disney is planning on getting out of Marvel's deals with other studios

- One S&P analyst asked why the price was so high. Disney CFO responded that Marvel was a premium property.

deano_ue

 my first reaction is ahh bollocks.

but the more i think about it, disney owns touchstone Miramax and Dimension and the type of content they put out isn't affected, so i don't see the content of marvel being changed

this happen a few years ago and i would be worried but with john lasseter in charge this could be interesting.

deano_ue

my first reaction is ahh crap.

but the more i think about it, disney owns touchstone Miramax and Dimension and the type of content they put out isn't affected, so i don't see the content of marvel being changed

this happen a few years ago and i would be worried but with john lasseter in charge this could be interesting.

Kommando

I wanna see Scrooge McDuck lay the smackdown on Howard the Duck.  :p  Maybe Marvel could make a new Disney imprint and actually make some comics directed at kids.

Disney/Marvel crossovers?  With the right characters.  Of course if you crossover with Squirrel Girl it will have the power of canon behind it.  Maybe it would be better suited for a game.  Spiderman in a new Kingdom Hearts?   :P  Though yeah, Mickey versus Doctor Doom would rock too.

JeyNyce

#47
Looking at Twitter somebody post something good:

Moon Knight versus the Gargoyles! C'mon who here wouldn't want to see that.

Anyway Disney is doing this to corner the boys market.  They have the girls already with Princesses & Hanna Montana.

Edit:  Beauty and The Hank McCoy  :thumbup:
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BentonGrey

Okay.....I have to say that a Marvel/Pixar collaboration would probably be a good thing.  I'd really like to see a classic X-Men animated movie.
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BWPS

#49
This is probably good news!
Disney almost always delivers with their animated movies and shows. They have a great track record.
Pixar is owned by Disney and has an even better track record. And if they team up with Marvel, you can bet it will be great.
Universal Studios sucks when compared to Disney's parks. They haven't made many fun Marvel rides and the overall park isn't worth a ticket. Disneyworld getting a Marvel area sounds like the coolest thing since Six Flags started making all their best coasters DC-themed.
I doubt I should even mention it, but Disney characters have also been featured in some really good comic books. I wouldn't mind seeing some books that I could buy an issue of without having to read 4 TPBs to understand. That's one of the reasons why people don't read comic books, it requires too much knowledge of past events.
As far as crossovers go, I doubt we'll see that and if for some reason we do, it'll be minor and not effect anyone who doesn't like them at all. Phillip Morris owns Kraft but we never see Macaroni, Cheese, and Tobacco or even cheese flavored chewing tobacco (that is, until I get a foothold in the business). I wish people would think before they say start complaining about the Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus playing the new X-Men. Disney bought Marvel because they wanted the money that it was making. If they DO have plans to change anything, they aren't going to do it by injecting all their signature characters and Disney Channel stars into everything. I've yet to hear any complaints about things that Disney might actually consider doing.

Disney is really good at what they do and I doubt it will have anything but a positive effect on Marvel.
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crimsonquill

I had a negative reaction at first... just cause I kept thinking of Howard The Duck And Donald Duck teaming up.

But Disney is trying to step out of the shadows of the old company and with Pixar being in charge of the animaton studio and them already partnered on some levels with Marvel stuff in their theme parks. Plus Marvel Comics and Marvel Productions are proving themselves with Spider-Man and Iron Man.. so getting the muscle to take back the rights to X-Men, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man, and Punisher and put them under one single studio might be a good thing.

What Disney does with the comic side probably isn't going to change much except them having a long talk with Quesada about how he has been running that side of the company....plus it finally gives Disney a solid home to have their Pixar Comics.

I'm just going to wait and see what other elements of this purchase develops.

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JeyNyce

You do have a point BWPS (no pun intended) but you know people are going to have fun with this.  I can see Robot Chicken do a show on this.  Better yet give it a few days and I'll bet Somerandomguy will make a video about this on Youtube.
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GhostMachine

I doubt it'll happen, but I hope this leads to Joe Quesada being fired.


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Quote from: GhostMachine on August 31, 2009, 08:56:21 PM
I doubt it'll happen, but I hope this leads to Joe Quesada being fired.



Based on Joe's twitters it does not seem like it. And personally I'm ok with him staying in charge.
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murs47

Quote from: crimsonquill on August 31, 2009, 08:46:00 PM
...isn't going to change much except them having a long talk with Quesada about how he has been running that side of the company...

What exactly would they talk about?

catwhowalksbyhimself

My reaction is mixed.  On the one hand, I am rather upset at Disney at the way they treated the Narnia film property, putting obstacles in their way, having unreasonably expectations, continuously delaying filming for years on both sequals, cutting the budget, going back on thier word repeatedly.

On the other hand, as long as they leave Marvel studios alone to do what they want to do, having them acquire back all the lost licenses can only be a good thing.  But I worry about movies like Incredible Hulk.  It might never have been made under Disney.  Again, I hope they just leave the studio alone.

Now a Marvel/Pixar collaboration could only be a good thing.
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murs47

Quote from: GhostMachine on August 31, 2009, 08:56:21 PM
I doubt it'll happen, but I hope this leads to Joe Quesada being fired.

Probably not. In a world of Xbox's, DVDs, and "reality" TV, Joe Q sells comics quite well. If anything he'll probably be getting a raise or an extension to his contract.

Blkcasanova247

I've got mixed feelings about this but I'm willing to keep an open mind...just so long as Disney keeps it's hands out of the books then I'm happy.
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John Jr.

We don't know how much control Disney plans to exercise over Marvel. Warner always let DC free, they only interfere over the big guns (Superman and Batman) and it's a uncommon event.
Disney has a "Family" image, Marvel adopted a "Darker" mood last years. So, Marvel will suffer changes only if Disney decides exercise full control (and I don't believe this will be the case). Disney woulnd't pay big bucks to completely change her new toy.

BentonGrey

Quote from: John Jr. on August 31, 2009, 11:08:29 PM
We don't know how much control Disney plans to exercise over Marvel. Warner always let DC free, they only interfere over the big guns (Superman and Batman) and it's a uncommon event.
Disney has a "Family" image, Marvel adopted a "Darker" mood last years. So, Marvel will suffer changes only if Disney decides exercise full control (and I don't believe this will be the case). Disney woulnd't pay big bucks to completely change her new toy.


Well JJ, you're somewhat right.  WB doesn't interfere too much on the comics side of things, but they DEFINITELY screw with the movies.....*looks at a certain giant-mechanical-spider-minded producer*
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