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Started by TheMarvell, July 23, 2009, 05:24:12 AM

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thanoson

Can't wait for Watchmen II. That ending totally left it open for a sequel.











j/k
Long live Slaanesh, Prince of Pain!!!

JeyNyce

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thanoson

See bottom of my post. lol
Long live Slaanesh, Prince of Pain!!!

steamteck

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Quote from: Tomato on August 14, 2009, 05:04:47 AM
Steamteck... I fail to see a point in any of your posts. Really, your only purpose here seems to be to gripe about how fans react to a graphic novel that's a decade or so old. Heck, it's not even that... you're not even listing reasons for the hatred, you're just saying "this is boring. It sucks. who would like this garbage?"

Your comments, however, leave no room for discussion, nor are they backed up by any credible facts. You have, repeatedly, called a movie which features spaceships on mars, guys heads being chopped open, and arm bones being snapped out of their sockets repeatedly. Just because you are not capable of understanding some of the writing does not negate the fact that these events are just about as NOT boring as you can get.

If you have a point to make, then by all means, make it. Let us discuss your opinion as though we are, God forbid, rational human beings capable of stringing a sentence together. And even if after the discussion is done no minds have been changed (to like or dislike the book) at least respect the fact that we enjoy this movie and don't be a jerkface.

I understand the writing just fine but won't be a Jerkface by elaborating what I find its faults OK. Here's my two cents. All my opinion for anyone who can't figure that out. This was all my reaction to  fictional works just an opinion.

I found the pacing off in the movie but it was an improvement on the novel. It jumped around too much and didn't let us settle in on any character enough for me. So I did find the earlier parts not especially exciting even if there were exploding people etc. Again, they had  lots of ground to cover and that may be as good as it gets.

The action when they got to it was well done if one sided. I found the alley scene unnecessarily graphic for my personal taste but fairly exciting. The Mars sequence was very nicely done but again it was towards the end and we had to wait for it. The film really picked up once Dan  decided to stop being afraid for me.
I liked  the HG wells style fake invasion in the novel fine but the Dr. Manhattan scam actually worked better for me. Just seemed cleaner and forced him off planet killing  2 birds with one stone.
another improvement I found in the movie is  I personally was never engaged with the characters in the novel and I did engage with them far more in the movie.
In the book it bothered me that  Rorschach was warded off by the cat ( always seemed to me he was a do or die guy) and I'm glad they avoided that pitfall ( to me at least it was a pitfall)

Visually I liked the movie versions of the characters almost universally better. Personal preference I prefer larger than life look.

All in all I liked the changes that were made in transition from novel to movie. For me at least, it corrected some of the flaws in the novel  and made it much more watchable if not one of my favorite films.

steamteck

Quote from: murs47 on August 14, 2009, 04:45:03 AM
Quote from: steamteck on August 14, 2009, 03:37:10 AM
...I'll never understand how any actual comic fans can enjoy it.

With good taste, of course. ;)



Yeah, I'm know a heathen, I hate Kingdom Come also. Fortunately I've found friends who share my tastes.

Reepicheep

Wasn't a Jerkfacish post at all, Steamteck. I like your analysis. I personally never found neither the novel (which I read in one evening) and the movie to drag, though perhaps it did leap now and then. The movie wins in that respect, though, since the leaps were done somewhat artistically. I didn't mind it much in the comic, though I did find myself stepping back a page or two to figure out where I was. I do the same with most books I read.

The music was an oddity, especially near the beginning. I bet most of you went "bwuh?" when neun-und-neunzig luftballoons came on when Laurie and Dan met up. It wasn't even ironic or anything. Can someone enlighten me on a reason why it was there? Simon and Garfunkle was another odd choice. I suppose it fitted the funeral scene.

All in all I still love it. When I bought it, though, I had no idea there was a director's cut. Will have to try and borrow a copy.

steamteck

Quote from: Reepicheep on August 16, 2009, 09:28:43 PM

The music was an oddity, especially near the beginning. I bet most of you went "bwuh?" when neun-und-neunzig luftballoons came on when Laurie and Dan met up. It wasn't even ironic or anything. Can someone enlighten me on a reason why it was there? Simon and Garfunkle was another odd choice. I suppose it fitted the funeral scene.

All in all I still love it. When I bought it, though, I had no idea there was a director's cut. Will have to try and borrow a copy.

I think the idea of the music was to evoke feelings of the era and try to play on emotional connections the pieces have in the popular psyche. be an old guy, that mostly worked for me. I actually would be curious about the director's cut. I find I almost always like them better than the theatrical version of a film. Often stuff gets cut that is good character development or adds texture to the story or just plain makes things make more sense.

marhawkman

the director's cut? My guess is that the theatrical version is cut to have a lower rating. I guess you could call that texture. that and it probably has expanded scenes it seemed much longer.

And wow.... the plot in this movie is so stinking convoluted that it's hard to fathom just how someone could have come up with it. Especially the ending. O_O!!!