New Video online:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=8053
Looks like we're going with the Civil War story line. It would be so cool if World War Hulk is a playable character.
Seems my worries of this being another clone of there former games but, with better graphics is now completly gone away - The gameplay looks very new & refreshing & the camera seems to be down in the action a bit which is a good thing - That Thor sceen in the video blew me away - He actually looked really powerfull & deadly - I probably won't use him thow because i'll have Daredevil & Luke Cage at my disposal - Having uber super powers like flight, force fields & mega laser beams that destroy whole planets is great & all but, I like my Heroes down in the streets breaking jaws & knee's with there bare hands - In fact i hope theres an Achievement for the 360 version for 1000 Haymakers :blink:
It's pretty....and the gameplay (what I could see of it) looks nice....but the fact that they are using that storyline REALLY hurts my interest in the game. If it gets really good reviews and the story is handled really well, I might still pick it up, but it isn't very likely.
Quote from: BentonGrey on February 06, 2009, 06:15:14 PM
It's pretty....and the gameplay (what I could see of it) looks nice....but the fact that they are using that storyline REALLY hurts my interest in the game. If it gets really good reviews and the story is handled really well, I might still pick it up, but it isn't very likely.
If it is any consolation you have to admit it is a better storyline for a videogame than it was for a comic. ^_^
And I agree with Electro, I'm huge on street level heroes and Daredevil in particular.
Haha, that may be true, Lu. ;) I really wish that DC would get on the ball and make a game like this. JLH was just so weak in comparison.
I'm looking forward to this, but I have to admit that I'm less than thrilled about the graphical look of the game. Are the graphics in that trailer in-game or prerendered cutscenes? Because if those were the cutscenes, then they look damn awful and a huge downgrade from MUA1's cutscenes, which were incredible, especially for a PS2 game. I hope this is just some sort of mock up trailer or something. If it's in-game, then that's more understandable, but I'm still not impressed since they've been working on it for so long and on current gen consoles. It could look a whole lot better than it is...
I'm actually pretty surprised they haven't shown more at this point. Isn't the game being released sometime in the first or second quarter of the year?
Hey Marvell, I think that only a very small portion (near the end) was actual in-game footage. Most of it, I think, was pre-rendered, but maybe not cutscenes.
I'm really excited. But I agree with Marvell. The graphics looked very dated and lifeless. But these games are all about how fun they are, and I'm sure this one will be. I liked Civil War in the comics, except what happened at the end with (I'm sure I can say this, it was in the news, but spoiler)
Spoiler
Spoiler
Cap being killed while his comic was so good.
but it definitely makes for a good video game setting.
The biggest problem I have is there are so many characters. It was hard enough picking 4 favorite X-men in XML, not that any of them but Storm ended doing anything toward the end. Though of course that's not a real problem.
QuoteThat Thor sceen in the video blew me away - He actually looked really powerfull & deadly
Yeah, and he's just an evil clone!
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/142/14233937/imgs_1.html
I absolutely love the look of Thor. That costume is fantastic! Is it just me or does Thor look like Coipel's vision of Thor in the face and body? Anyway, you know an alternate costume will be Coipel's Thor. I am so looking forward to this game!
QuoteThe biggest problem I have is there are so many characters.
What :thumbdown:
Well, I have a feeling that the cast of characters is going to end up making me angry, after all, I'm sure I won't get the Angers line up that I want (and that the game deserves) because they'll be too busy making room for freaking Elektra and others. Still, even with worries like that already on my mind, I was surprised by one of the characters already revealed. Songbird...who the heck is she? I've never even heard of her before. I bet we won't see Wasp, but darned if they didn't put miss nobody in the game. :huh:
Songbird was Screaming Mimi, and has been in Thunderbolts for quite some time (though I don't think anymore). She's not that new of a character by any stretch, with a first appearance in 1979. I'm not exactly sure why they've gone with her, but the wasp not being in MUA 2 is no skin off my nose.
Yeah, songbird is pretty cool in her current incarnation, nice powers, costume and personality. And while she is a total B (or C) lister she was a big part of recent events by association. I'm looking forward to MUA2, I felt that they got a lot right in MUA but there was a lot of room for improvement.
Quote from: BentonGrey on April 01, 2009, 04:12:18 PM
Well, I have a feeling that the cast of characters is going to end up making me angry, after all, I'm sure I won't get the Angers line up that I want (and that the game deserves) because they'll be too busy making room for freaking Elektra and others. Still, even with worries like that already on my mind, I was surprised by one of the characters already revealed. Songbird...who the heck is she? I've never even heard of her before. I bet we won't see Wasp, but darned if they didn't put miss nobody in the game. :huh:
Shhhh, speak less, Benton. :P. We all know you only know old school avengers and Aquaman characters. ^^.
Songbird is currently off the Thunderbolts team and is being hunted down by Osbourne. She probably has more fans than Wasp ever has and really...no one really likes her character. Besides, Songbird is basically like a GL or Sapphire in her current form, so they could potentially do quite a lot with her AND offer a bit more diversity than the last few games had. Wasp really doesn't offer that much in gameplay, me thinks, unless they reduce the power slots from 6+ back to 4-5...and even then she's no real powerhouse or prize in combat.
As for why she may be in the game, the T-bolts had a mediocre part in Civil War, which part of the game's storyline is based off of. The T-bolts were used to capture rogue heroes...so...enter Songbird, who at this time was too moral for the team and openly opposed Norman's rule. IIRC, Green Goblin is in the game, so that may come into play somehow.
I just hope they debug this one a little better than the last ones.
Never played X-Men Legends, but XL2 had a TON of bugs in it, a few completely handicapping gameplay (bosses who wouldn't come out if killed someone too quickly, bos fights which would not register a win if you timed something just right). MUA was a little better, but even it had far too many bugs in it (most notable in my experience was the fact that if you had two controllers active, even if only one person was playing the solo training missions, bosses would not fight back and you got no rewards).
Seriously, do they playtest these things? Don't get me wrong, I loved both those games, but the fact that some serious issues slipped in is sloppy.
*Kills Prev...mostly for fun* Well, I like the Wasp. Tommy did an excellent job incorporating her into MUA 1, so it seems to me that she'd be just fine. In fact, there is a lot you could do with her in the speed/stealth/hard-to-hit kind of way.
Ohh...and I'm familiar with MOST old school characters...it's not my fault modern comics stink so bad. ;)
I'm still moderately looking forward to it, but I just picked up MUA to play on my friend's 360, after having been playing Tommy's oh-so-excellent Avengers mod for it on the PC, and I was struck by how little the vanilla cast of characters interested me. I wouldn't mind playing roughly half of them, but I only really cared about a handful (guess which ones). Characters like Elektra, Storm, Colossus, Wolverine, Power Man, Spiderwoman, and Iceman are just taking up slots that could be used by characters I care about more, or who I haven't gotten to play with yet in a game like this.
Quote from: BentonGrey on April 02, 2009, 04:52:12 PM
*Kills Prev...mostly for fun* Well, I like the Wasp. Tommy did an excellent job incorporating her into MUA 1, so it seems to me that she'd be just fine. In fact, there is a lot you could do with her in the speed/stealth/hard-to-hit kind of way.
Ohh...and I'm familiar with MOST old school characters...it's not my fault modern comics stink so bad. ;)
Somebody likes the Wasp? Weird. I guess just playing the odds someone had to (though what really throws the curve off is that it's the same person who likes Aquaman) :P.
I wouldn't call the '70s "modern comics" though. Even '79 was 30 years ago now.
Quote from: BentonGrey on April 02, 2009, 04:52:12 PM
*Kills Prev...mostly for fun* Well, I like the Wasp. Tommy did an excellent job incorporating her into MUA 1, so it seems to me that she'd be just fine. In fact, there is a lot you could do with her in the speed/stealth/hard-to-hit kind of way.
Ohh...and I'm familiar with MOST old school characters...it's not my fault modern comics stink so bad. ;)
I'm still moderately looking forward to it, but I just picked up MUA to play on my friend's 360, after having been playing Tommy's oh-so-excellent Avengers mod for it on the PC, and I was struck by how little the vanilla cast of characters interested me. I wouldn't mind playing roughly half of them, but I only really cared about a handful (guess which ones). Characters like Elektra, Storm, Colossus, Wolverine, Power Man, Spiderwoman, and Iceman are just taking up slots that could be used by characters I care about more, or who I haven't gotten to play with yet in a game like this.
*kills Benton... mostly for fun* Let me see if I understand the mentality here... despite the fact that the X-men are one of Marvel's consistently hot items since Second Genesis (an era I'm quite the fan of, btw) and make up a huge chunk of the universe, they should all be nixed? Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing more X-men in MUA2... Beast at the very least, because we haven't seen him since XML 1 and he's such a big proponent of the universe.
I like the wasp, but mostly from her modern incarnation in recent avengers and in the ultimates. I like how she is tough, how her shrinking powers are cool, I loved it when she started becoming a giant as well and her character has been this intelligent beautiful woman who refuses to pronouce her life over because she got married.
* Character may vary depending on the writer and storyline. ;)
Quote from: Talavar on April 03, 2009, 03:30:08 AM
Somebody likes the Wasp? Weird. I guess just playing the odds someone had to (though what really throws the curve off is that it's the same person who likes Aquaman) :P.
I wouldn't call the '70s "modern comics" though. Even '79 was 30 years ago now.
Haha, yeah, I know. What can I say, I'm a sucker for the underdog. ^_^. I like 70's comics...I even like 80's comics sometimes... :unsure:
Quote from: Tomato on April 03, 2009, 05:20:43 AM
*kills Benton... mostly for fun* Let me see if I understand the mentality here... despite the fact that the X-men are one of Marvel's consistently hot items since Second Genesis (an era I'm quite the fan of, btw) and make up a huge chunk of the universe, they should all be nixed? Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing more X-men in MUA2... Beast at the very least, because we haven't seen him since XML 1 and he's such a big proponent of the universe.
Ackkk!! Ha, yeah, that's pretty much my stance. Now, don't get me wrong, I love the X-Men, I just feel like I've already played with them and I'd rather play with new characters. If the cast were bigger, or really, even if the 360 version were mod-able, it wouldn't bother me as much. I wouldn't mind seeing Beast in it, since he was an Avenger too. See, in my mind, this is and should have been an Avenger game. I can't shake that. We had X-Men, and going to the wider Marvel U is great, but the core of it should be the Avengers. That means Cap, Iron Man, and Thor, of course, but it also means Hawkeye, Giantman, Wasp, Hercules, the Black Knight, and others. Notice I didn't say that I thought the X-Men had no place in the game (although Elektra? Really?), just that they didn't really mean anything to me in MUA. Ideally, we'd have a game that would give us a nice, big chunk of both teams. Especially if we had a rumble room type affair. It would be great fun to pit the X-Men against the Avengers.
Quote from: lugaru on April 03, 2009, 12:33:58 PM
I like the wasp, but mostly from her modern incarnation in recent avengers and in the ultimates. I like how she is tough, how her shrinking powers are cool, I loved it when she started becoming a giant as well and her character has been this intelligent beautiful woman who refuses to pronouce her life over because she got married.
* Character may vary depending on the writer and storyline. ;)
Lugaru, I like her from 80's and 90's tales, where she became a leader. She was really on top of things and competent, and they played up her experience to make her a good field commander. It was a really nice departure from the Sue Richards/Lois Lane syndrome that she had in her early incarnation. I haven't read anything about her recently, and I avoid the Ultimates like the plague, but it sounds like the same kind of things about the character.
Got ninja'd but it's an Op Ed anyways.
Have to disagree with Benton and Tomato on the lineups.
X-men are just so boring after awhile in video games. We already had 2 XML games and they were great, let's move on. And really, do we need Iceman in every game? I always felt he was the most overrated character.
As for Powerman and Elektra, well those are two of my staples whenever I play MUA. I always loved the "lone wolf" type characters...Daredevil, Heroes for Hire, Elektra, Black Widow, Black Panther. Alright, Spiderwoman, Dr. Strange and Blade is going a bit overboard, but I think some of these characters deserve some game time.
I'd rather see a lineup that covers some of the name brands (Cap, Spidey, Thor), some of the lesser known (Ironfist, Daredevil, Elektra) and then some that just never make the cut (Black Knight, Wasp, Alpha Flight).
If they could just keep a good mix, give them multiple costumes, and leave room for some add-ons later on, I'd be a happy man.
Now that I see the last post, I whole heartedly agree that MUA would be better as an Avengers-centric game. Granted it's Marvel Ultimate Alliance not The Avengers, but like I said do we really need more X-men games I can think of about 12 in recent times off the top of my head, and Wiki lists more than 25 X-men specific titles.
If Thor, Ares, Cloak and Dagger, Cable, and any Young Avengers appear in this game I'm in.
I wouldn't mind seeing Cable it the game.
Thor is in it for sure as, like Storm, he's more or less a mainstay with a variety of powers and easy to combo off. It'd be nice for Cable to actually appear outside of XML2 where he was in...the psp version? *hopes there're no uber exclusive characters this time around as that's truly an annoying feature each game post XML has had*
Quote from: Previsionary on April 03, 2009, 04:43:15 PM
Thor is in it for sure as, like Storm, he's more or less a mainstay with a variety of powers and easy to combo off. It'd be nice for Cable to actually appear outside of XML2 where he was in...the psp version? *hopes there're no uber exclusive characters this time around as that's truly an annoying feature each game post XML has had*
I hated that with MUA. I really wanted to play as Captain Marvel but refused to buy another system just for a game I could play on my PS2, Wii, or Xbox.
Yeah, I know EXACTLY what you mean AA.
Ditto. I wanted to play as Nightcrawler in MUA but I didn't have the system for it. :(
the console exclusive character concept kinda sucks in general. Only possible excuse I can think of if it's a console specific character (ie: MasterChief on the X-Box, Kratos on the PS3, and Samus on the Wii), but even that's kinda weak.
I agree about console exclusives, if it is not a mascot (Link in Soul Calibur) then it feels more like a restriction than a bonus.
Personally I would love to see a lot of the classic spiderman villains, imagine a MODOCK'S 12 level where you fight through villanous henchmen and face people like "The Puma" who are fighting your heroes and the henchmen at the same time as they attempt to steal some technology. Also I would love to fight the Rhino playing as The Punisher...
As far as exclusive characters go, I'd say either hold out in case they maybe(stupid VV! not make a profit my butt.) sell it for the PC (which will inevitably have everyone, fans being as awesome as they are) or get the X-Box 360 version, which will have all of them on X-Box live soon enough anyway.
And as far as the X-men thing... Grah. I got this game originally on the PS2, and they didn't even have a full X-men lineup (3 characters), so how can you say there were too many? Even the Xbox 360, with it's 8 bonus characters (is that right? I'm not sure) and next-gen staples, bringing it up to 31 characters in all, only had 6 X-men. They added 6 characters just in the Xbox live bonuses, for goodness sake!
I'm sorry, but I don't understand this mentality... we keep talking about slots they take up, but what it comes down to is playability. Cyclops is a great ranged guy. Wolverine is awesome at melee. Nightcrawler is a teleporting swords guy. Iceman can freeze everything. All of them serve a purpose, as does Songbird (whose powers I'm looking forward to using.) Wasp doesn't. Beast, despite my love of the character, didn't in XML1 (I'm sorry, but he was pretty useless).
If you wish to talk slots, talk about what the character can actually do, that is unique compared to the rest of Marvel, and that can add to the game. In that case, there isn't a competition between Wasp and Songbird, they're completely different in terms of abilities. The only slots Wasp is competing for are with the Ant-man/Goliath crowd, not with X-men or Songbird.
I know in SCIV you can buy the SW char that didn't come with your system's version, but that's still lame because you have to pay for them. I'd imagine other games do that as well.
Quote from: Tomato on April 03, 2009, 07:11:17 PM
but what it comes down to is playability.
Yes and no. The whole appeal of these games is the chance to play your favorite characters. Otherwise, there'd be no reason to license the Marvel heroes at all. I don't really care how uber Wolverine is, I'd rather play Beast, because I like him better. As far as I'm concerned, they can take out the X-Men and replace them with NextWave and Power Pack. :P
Well... I like to play Deadpool both because I like Deadpool and because he is uber. I mean... when I played UA, me and Wolverine kept the team around, with another guy as Iron Man to just blast the crud outta everybody. Then one of the guy's girlfriends was Storm since that was the only female character she knew. But she managed to do some damage.
But yeah, a big fight basically started with me taunting all the bad guys and letting them pummel me while it didn't even hurt me. I quite enjoyed it.
Iron Fist (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47651.html)
:drool:
Quote from: Tomato on April 03, 2009, 07:11:17 PM
As far as exclusive characters go, I'd say either hold out in case they maybe(stupid VV! not make a profit my butt.) sell it for the PC (which will inevitably have everyone, fans being as awesome as they are) or get the X-Box 360 version, which will have all of them on X-Box live soon enough anyway.
And as far as the X-men thing... Grah. I got this game originally on the PS2, and they didn't even have a full X-men lineup (3 characters), so how can you say there were too many? Even the Xbox 360, with it's 8 bonus characters (is that right? I'm not sure) and next-gen staples, bringing it up to 31 characters in all, only had 6 X-men. They added 6 characters just in the Xbox live bonuses, for goodness sake!
I'm sorry, but I don't understand this mentality... we keep talking about slots they take up, but what it comes down to is playability. Cyclops is a great ranged guy. Wolverine is awesome at melee. Nightcrawler is a teleporting swords guy. Iceman can freeze everything. All of them serve a purpose, as does Songbird (whose powers I'm looking forward to using.) Wasp doesn't. Beast, despite my love of the character, didn't in XML1 (I'm sorry, but he was pretty useless).
If you wish to talk slots, talk about what the character can actually do, that is unique compared to the rest of Marvel, and that can add to the game. In that case, there isn't a competition between Wasp and Songbird, they're completely different in terms of abilities. The only slots Wasp is competing for are with the Ant-man/Goliath crowd, not with X-men or Songbird.
Nope Tomato, I wholeheartedly disagree. There is no role that the X-Men fulfill that other characters couldn't do as well, if not much better. Black Knight or Hercules could be just as much melee machines as Wolverine, Vision would be a really interesting utility player, Hawkeye is every bit the ranged fighter that Cyclops is, only more versatile, and in the game Deadpool can even teleport (sorry Nightcrawler). So, you aren't missing ANYTHING by not having those characters, but keep in mind, I didn't complain solely about the X-Men. I think there were several characters included that should have been replaced.
If you want to talk about powers and creating characters that are interesting to play with, well Wasp and Giant/Ant Man are at the very top of my list. There is tons you could do with Wasp, with her playing a support, scout role. She could be incredibly hard to hit (like Nightcrawler in XML II), and do a myriad of things with her Wasp stings (as illustrated by Tommy in his Avengers mod). What would be REALLY cool would be Hank Pym. You could basically have two sets of powers for him, and one of his first powers would be the ability to grow or shrink. As Giantman he is strong, tough, and able to be a brick. As Antman, he is hard to hit and a great way to tie up enemies with his insects. That would be a really cool combination.
Still, as JK pointed out, a big point of the game is being able to play with your favorite characters. I like MUA a lot better than, say, Gauntlet, because I care about the characters involved. I would just really like to see other characters to get a chance at 3D life, heaven knows the X-Men have had their share.
Yes, the X-men had their share, but the X-men didn't make up the majority of MUA, and from some posts in this thread, you'd think they did. The truth of the matter is, the avengers made up more of the cast list than any other team. Let's count them out:
Avengers:
Ms. Marvel
Wolverine
Spider-man
Dr. Strange
Black Panther
Thor
Captain America
Spider-woman
Ironman
Luke Cage
Hawkeye (exclusive)
Ronin (exclusive)
Marvel (exclusive)
Hulk (exclusive)
Namor (exclusive)
Vision (exclusive)
Black Widow (exclusive)
X-men:
Wolverine
Ms. Marvel
Storm
Iceman
Nightcrawler (xc)
Cyclops (xc)
Colossus (xc)
Magneto (xc)
Sabretooth (xc)
Jean Grey (xc)
Fantastic Four:
Torch
Susan
Reed
Thing
Storm
Black Panther
Solo:
Deadpool
DD
Elektra
Moonknight (xc)
Venom (xc)
S. Surfer
Blade
G. Rider
Nick Fury
Final count: Avengers= 17, X-men= 10, Fan4= 6, Solo= 9 (including exclusives/dual teams)
Exclud. XC: Avengers= 10, X-men= 4, Fan4= 6, Solo= 7 (including dual teams)
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So, looking at the list, it's pretty clear that the avengers pretty much dominated the list. It may not have been the avengers you wanted (or on the console you owned), but the developers drastically cut down on the X-list, and I can tell you that back when the game first came out, many people wanted to play around with more X-men such as NC (DP and NC have different teleporting styles if you never noticed, so DP couldn't exactly replace NC). I think more of the universe needs to be explored in general OUTSIDE of the big three teams of Fan4, Avengers, and X-men which is why I welcome the addition of Songbird. I'd be even happier if Gravity showed up.
Speaking of Herc, I saw some unconfirmed reports that he's in the game as a mini-boss, which sucks. I'd rather play as Hercules over Luke Cage, as he really didn't add much to the gameplay in mua when you already had Thing basically covering all the big guy bases. *sigh*
Yeah....I don't really consider Luke Cage, Spider Woman, Spider-man, Ronin, OR Wolverine as Avengers...as far as I'm concerned, it never happened. :P Take them out and the list is quite a bit smaller (in those available to everyone)
If only video games existed when BG's favorite teams were around. :P
Haha! I didn't exist when they were around. ^_^
Meh... I guess the way I see it, we've sort of passed the point where throwing in 7 X-men in the lineup doesn't really hamper the totality of the lineup significantly, especially with the lineup increasing the way it does. For example:
XML- 15 PC, 0 EX, 15 total
XMLII- 18 PC, 7 EX, 25 total
MUA- 23 PC, 13 EX, 36 total
PC-Playable characters on all console/PC systems
Ex- Exclusive to specific consoles
Now, given that the roster seems to (overall) increase by 10 characters per game, with about 5 of those being for ALL consoles, I suspect we'll hit most of the major highlights of the 616 Universe by MUA 3 anyway.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on April 03, 2009, 04:06:50 PM
If Thor, Ares, Cloak and Dagger, Cable, and any Young Avengers appear in this game I'm in.
Cable is in the game, not sure if he's playable though. I saw him in one of the trailers.
I'm a modern fan (as well as classic) and I think it's pretty cool that they're adapting the Civil War storyline and adding lesser known characters like Songbird. You need to get b/c list characters into games and other media to make them larger profile. However I actually think Secret Invasion would have made a better story to play. Armies of skrulls and super skrulls - how awesome would that be!
Or Annihilation, sure you'd probably need to add the A-listers to the story but that would make an epic game - and you know you want to play as Nova.
QuoteOr Annihilation, sure you'd probably need to add the A-listers to the story but that would make an epic game - and you know you want to play as Nova.
I would love to see the Annihilation story brought to the video game arena but, that seems very doubtfull seeing how there are no good guys in the story besides Nova & Quasar - Unless you consider Drax good - Just don't see a company sinking good money into a game that stars Nova & Quasar even thow I would be first in line to buy it but, i'm a mega geek - Anyway Iron Fist looks fun to play with & he will definetly be on my roster along with DD & Cage :blink:
http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/#/Media/Images/c=12&i=49
Some pics from the official site. Shows off Spidey, Thor, Thing, Susan, Reed, Ironman, and Songbird in action. Benton should especially check out Songbird. :P.
Also of interest might be the 3d pic they have in their gallery.
Deadpool trailer (http://kotaku.com/5262293/deadpool-remains-stoically-silent-in-this-new-ultimate-alliance-2-trailer)
I absolutely hate Captain America's costume in this. Everyone so far looks really good but Cap looks terrible. :thumbdown:
Quote from: captmorgan72 on May 21, 2009, 03:08:47 AM
I absolutely hate Captain America's costume in this. Everyone so far looks really good but Cap looks terrible. :thumbdown:
No. I dislike the look of Cap's Chain Mail (they could at least TRY to make it look good in-game) but Wolverine's collar-of-death makes my eyes twitch every time I see screens of him. I know they're trying for a more realistic look... but they need to stop. The only one they're benefiting with it is Thor, and even then only barely.
Edit: Case in point
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2184/wolverinex.jpg)
Seeing Hair stick out under a full-head mask? Fail.
As long as they give us nice unlockable costumes I don't care how sucky the main ones are, I just won't use them. I am SO glad the costumes aren't tied to stats... I HATED that in the last game. Although I gotta say that Wolverine collar really is an eyesore... oh yeah and Capt. America's scalemail shawl is awful...
I also don't mind them adding B & C listers at all, I just won't use them if I don't like them. I don't know who Songbird is at all, I'd love to get a Giant Man that grows and all that goodness on a random note. Or if they must be obscure just give me Black Goliath or Atlas or any other number of the probably dozen heroes & villains with access to pym particles.
Also that Deadpool trailer... WOW... Deadpool May Cry is dead on. If everyone gets that kind of treatment and upgrade in combat I am supremely excited for this. At least then maybe I'll be able to tell the difference when I'm playing Thing/Hulk/Colossus/Luke Cage other than their semi-unique throws.
I'm loving it, so far the graphics look a tiny bit dated but the light effects and excellent animation more than makes up for it. And kudos to them for getting rid of the stat bonuses from outfits, I often found myself wearing an outfit I really loved even thought it messed up my characters stats.
I'm with Grizzly. Just include some classic costumes and I'll be a happy man. That was the first thing I did on MUA, was play every character to unlock a better looking outfit. That Wolverine suit is ugly and I don't even want to talk about Iron Fist. I hope the cutscenes and character select scenes reflect the wardrobe changes.
I soooo want to see Sentry in this.
Dear god Wolverine looks horrible. I would actually prefer him in his boring old street clothes than that getup. Ironfist and his baseball catchers vest is hideous as well. I really hope they'll have classic costumes in this so I can use a cheat to unlock them right away.
Quote from: Courtnall6 on May 23, 2009, 08:04:30 PM
Dear god Wolverine looks horrible. I would actually prefer him in his boring old street clothes than that getup. Ironfist and his baseball catchers vest is hideous as well. I really hope they'll have classic costumes in this so I can use a cheat to unlock them right away.
I hope so too... I don't want to be stuck with most of these costumes for long at all.
Also they posted pics of the Juggernaut, other than the addition of shoulder pads I like his game costume better than his classic costume. I never really thought about it until the article mentioned it but... Juggernaut can't turn his head. Yes, yes forward forward unstoppable and all that... but seriously as much as he used to love leaving that helmet on, he should probably still be able to turn his head.
I also like Iron Fist's costume... the vest doesn't bother me as Danny Rand is very much... not bulletproof. Although the SHINY yellow headband screams shoot me in the face just as much as the SHINY yellow dragon on the vest. While I'm on the Heroes for Hire train... I don't like Luke Cage... how did he suddenly become fearsome? Did Brian Michael Bendis take the power of Shaft and just distill it into an elixir to empower Luke Cage?
Juggernaut isn't too bad I guess....but, to me, his helmet is iconic to his character...I wouldn't have changed it.
Quotethe vest doesn't bother me as Danny Rand is very much... not bulletproof
He went decades without that being much of a problem. Ironfist's look doesn't work for me at all. Gimme back the green tights, high pointy collar, and yellow slippers any day. :cool:
Quote from: Courtnall6 on May 23, 2009, 11:28:31 PM
Juggernaut isn't too bad I guess....but, to me, his helmet is iconic to his character...I wouldn't have changed it.
Quotethe vest doesn't bother me as Danny Rand is very much... not bulletproof
He went decades without that being much of a problem. Ironfist's look doesn't work for me at all. Gimme back the green tights, high pointy collar, and yellow slippers any day. :cool:
Bah! Good point... curse you C6!
I still like Iron Fist's look... however Wolverine & Captain America... hoo boy those look bad.
Personally I think they kept enough elements of Jugg's helmet that I'm not that bothered by it. Especially after it donned on me after all these years with the old look, he seriously can't turn his head.
Well, they aren't releasing it for PC, so there goes the last tiny shred (and it was honestly pretty small by this point, pretty much only kept alive by the possibility it might be modded) of a chance that I might buy it.
Two new characters revealed Venom & Green Goblin.
Things that go bump in the night (part 1) (http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/en/news_comments/things_that_go_bump_in_the_night_part_1_venom/) This talks about designing Venom & Green Goblin, but part 1 is solely about venom.
You can see...
Green Goblin (http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/#/Characters/Green_Goblin)
Venom (http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/#/Characters/Venom)
Love these two costumes, they look really really good.
I had no idea Mac Gargan (Scorpion) was now Venom.
Quote from: GrizzlyBearTalon on June 04, 2009, 03:52:20 AM
I had no idea Mac Gargan (Scorpion) was now Venom.
He isn't. That's crazy talk, like Brand New Day.
As far as the designs... eh. I'm not exactly fond of them, but I'm not exactly fond of their "modern" designs anyway.
AFAIK Gargan has been Venom for a while Before BND.
*rains on parade*
Did I say it was BND-related? no. I just said it was crazy talk :P.
Edit: Added a smiley to make it more obvious I was joking.
Quote from: Tomato on June 05, 2009, 07:20:48 AM
Did I say it was BND-related? no. I just said it was crazy talk.
Um... he could have been trying to clarify it in case I was confused by your statement. I did make a thread on the topic in the comics forum.
Anyways back on track now you dirty distractions... dirty... so dirty... I'll clean you up... mmmm..... *cough*
Stan Lee Interview on MUA2 (http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211584/?hd=1)
MUA2 Stage Demo (shows gameplay) (http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211386/)
Green Goblin Trailer (http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211261/)
Want to thank Grizzly & Midnight for there relentless effort to get the links to these cool Comic/videogame videos - MUA2 looks so amazing now - Jugghead couldn't look cooler & will half to preorder the game to get him - As ussual I don't enjoy any of the new costumes but, that Green Goblin outfit might the best incarnation i've seen to date - Now for the wish list of who makes the final roster - The Hood, Punisher, Constrictor, Hercules, Yellowjacket :blink:
Herc is a sub-boss, so it's more than likely final that he isn't in the roster at all.
I really want Herc as a playable character. I was checking out Venom and was thinking how much he looks like a rancor from Star Wars. What do you think? http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/#/Characters/Venom and a rancor http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rancor-CHRON.jpg
Quote from: captmorgan72 on June 08, 2009, 12:38:24 AM
I really want Herc as a playable character. I was checking out Venom and was thinking how much he looks like a rancor from Star Wars. What do you think? http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/#/Characters/Venom and a rancor http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rancor-CHRON.jpg
Gonna have to totally agree with you, there is a very strong resemblance.
I don't know. For some reason, I'm just not very excited for this game. The first one looked way better, imo.
I just wish I had a better sense of how it was going to look on different consoles. I can't help but feel like all of the footage shown thus far is just on the PS3 and XBOX 360 consoles, and that we haven't yet been given a glimpse of what it would look like on the Wii or PS2.
Quote from: TheMarvell on June 08, 2009, 02:50:17 PM
I don't know. For some reason, I'm just not very excited for this game. The first one looked way better, imo.
You are kidding right? :huh:
have we been told which characters are locked into which story eg, you can only play them as pro or anti
also have the exclusives been announced, i would hate someone like GG to be xbox only
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on June 08, 2009, 04:26:19 PM
have we been told which characters are locked into which story eg, you can only play them as pro or anti
also have the exclusives been announced, i would hate someone like GG to be xbox only
Yeah, I would hate it if Glich Girl is a console exclusive. Wait, you mean Green Goblin? Oh...
This is why I like it when a game sneaks up on me, the fact that we have had a million updates every step of the way has me thinking "jaysus hurry up already".
I do like the fact that only 2 characters are locked in per side... it means I can really build whatever pro or anti team I want. It almost makes me wish they did a custom hero feature, it would be so easy to work "new heroes" into the civil war storyline.
I know Stark and Reed are locked to Pro and Cap and Cage to Anti - I also thing songbird may be locked to Pro as well.
Quote from: captmorgan72 on June 08, 2009, 04:08:27 PM
Quote from: TheMarvell on June 08, 2009, 02:50:17 PM
I don't know. For some reason, I'm just not very excited for this game. The first one looked way better, imo.
You are kidding right? :huh:
lol, no. I don't know what it is, really. Normally I'd be pumped for a new superhero game. Maybe it's the overall look of the game, or perhaps my lack of knowledge of the storyline. But from what I've seen or heard, I have yet to be really impressed I guess. I could easily change my mind, and probably will once the game is released. But right now, I don't know, I'm not nearly as excited about this game as I thought I'd be.
I agree with Marvell as well... most probably because of the designs. Heck, it's entirely because of the designs. They're ugly, and many of their design embellishments do not have a purpose or reasoning behind them, and in some cases actually IMPEDE COMBAT.
Wolverine is the worst example of this. We've got a collar that gets in his face, boots and gloves so armored that they restrict movement (and this is WOLVERINE, a supposedly speedy melee fighter), and a mask seemingly designed to rub against the back of his neck.
When you have reached a point where your designs are less logical then the "unstable molecules" in the comics, you have an issue.
Quote from: Tomato on June 09, 2009, 03:15:01 AM
I agree with Marvell as well... most probably because of the designs. Heck, it's entirely because of the designs. They're ugly, and many of their design embellishments do not have a purpose or reasoning behind them, and in some cases actually IMPEDE COMBAT.
Wolverine is the worst example of this. We've got a collar that gets in his face, boots and gloves so armored that they restrict movement (and this is WOLVERINE, a supposedly speedy melee fighter), and a mask seemingly designed to rub against the back of his neck.
When you have reached a point where your designs are less logical then the "unstable molecules" in the comics, you have an issue.
:lol: yeah, i know what you mean about some of these costumes. Some of them are improvements on Marvel classics and some are not. I don't care for Wolverine's "real world costume" either but his classics will be available, so it's not a big deal.
Gotta agree, these characters look UGLY. I know they're trying for a sort of "realistic" grim and gritty look, but the end result is lumpy, clunky, and not that easy on the eyes. Characters who should look streamlined (like Songbird for instance) don't feel streamlined, and others (Wolverine for example) just look bleah.
Just because you can detail the hell out of something doesn't mean you should.
Things that go bump in the night (part 2) (http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/en/news_comments/things_that_go_bump_in_the_night_part_2_green_goblin/)
Quote from: captmorgan72 on June 09, 2009, 10:52:29 AM
but his classics will be available, so it's not a big deal.
Is there any confirmation of this? I mean, I'd assume there would be, but as far as I know that's based on the previous games, not on anything they've come out and said. And even so... what is the guarantee we'll be getting the spandex for the classics?
Quote from: Tomato on June 09, 2009, 09:29:10 PM
Quote from: captmorgan72 on June 09, 2009, 10:52:29 AM
but his classics will be available, so it's not a big deal.
Is there any confirmation of this? I mean, I'd assume there would be, but as far as I know that's based on the previous games, not on anything they've come out and said. And even so... what is the guarantee we'll be getting the spandex for the classics?
http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211386/ At 10:10 he says that each character will have at least one additional costume and they will be as detailed as these "real world" costumes. I get nervous when he says at least one additional costume, because it will be hit or miss for the classics we all love. For Wolverine, I want that alternate costume to be the tan and brown.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who is feeling less than thrilled about this game, lol. Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure it is the hideous designs of the characters and their costumes. Plus, I think my interest in the game reached it's lowest point when I saw one of the bigger trailers several months ago. The video was just really unimpressive and freaking UGLY. Plus, now with Wolverine's stupid looking costume "upgrade" and Venom looking like a Rancor from Star Wars, I just don't see myself wanting to play this game... at least not nearly as much as the first one. Right now, at this point, I'm definitely going to see what the reviews and others say about it before checking it out.
And I know they're using the Venom from the newer comics, with Mac Gargan, but dammit, give me the classic stuff any day over anything modern. Mac Gargan is supposed to be SCORPION, lol.
Interesting. I find that the costuming is not an issue for me - I'm much more interested in whether the gameplay and story will be good. And I've had favorable impressions on both of those counts thus far.
I haven't read any of Marvel's recent comics, so I'm only dimly aware of the concept of the Civil War storyline - the sheer destructive capability of superpowered characters causes Congress to get sufficiently nervous to pass a registration act, and assorted Marvel characters have divided feelings on this, leading to conflict between the pro- and anti-registration factions. Since it sounds like you can opt to play through either faction, I like the possibility of two separate "What If" storylines within the same game.
I'm also psyched to see the innovations in this version that did not exist in the first MUA. Being able to play the Green Goblin with his glider is one such nifty innovation. I'm also enthused about the new fashion in which teammates can combine their powers. In the original MUA, combos were pretty bland - two heroes fired off their special powers at the same time, resulting in some extra damage and prompting the game to call out "COMBO!" Whereas in MUA2, every conceivable pair of characters has a unique special combo "fusion." Storm can deflect her electricity off of Captain America's shield, allowing a wide-angle spray of electricity. Songbird can surround Juggernaut with a pulsating sphere of sonic energy, granting him an area-effecting shockwave as he barrels through enemies.
While I will grant that the artistic team may have made some really bad calls on costuming design, this ultimately is unlikely to affect my enjoyment of this game.
Quote from: TheMarvell on June 10, 2009, 12:35:54 AM
And I know they're using the Venom from the newer comics, with Mac Gargan, but dammit, give me the classic stuff any day over anything modern. Mac Gargan is supposed to be SCORPION, lol.
Classic Venom with Eddie Brock will be the alternate costume you can be sure. Gargan is so much more bad*** than Brock ever was with the symbiote. He is far more powerful than Brock's Venom and you can be sure that the symbiote will NEVER want to leave Gargan.
Quote from: captmorgan72 on June 10, 2009, 02:08:12 AM
Quote from: TheMarvell on June 10, 2009, 12:35:54 AM
And I know they're using the Venom from the newer comics, with Mac Gargan, but dammit, give me the classic stuff any day over anything modern. Mac Gargan is supposed to be SCORPION, lol.
Classic Venom with Eddie Brock will be the alternate costume you can be sure. Gargan is so much more bad*** than Brock ever was with the symbiote. He is far more powerful than Brock's Venom and you can be sure that the symbiote will NEVER want to leave Gargan.
Is this sarcasm? The symbiote dislikes Gargan and he's still kind of pathetic even with the symbiote. It wasn't until recently that he even got a little tougher with it.
Anyway, as far as costumes go, it seems raven/activision haven't learned much since their XML1 days. Those extra costumes they designed for a few characters sucked as well (Psylocke).
Nope, it wasn't sarcasm. Since when does the symbiote hate Gargan? Gargan is the perfect host for it. Mac is more powerful than even Spidey and is easy to control. Gargan is always struggling to control the symbiote and fears it but doesn't want to lose it. He is very addicted to it. So the symbiote has the most powerful and easy to control host it has ever possessed. Why would it hate a host like that? Also, Mac being pathetic is just the product of bad writing. He's not stupid, he's a skilled detective and that beats a reporter like Brock was. I prefer Mac's Venom over Brock's. He meaner, tougher and he looks kinda like a Rancor...how cool is that? :)
I clearly remember a scene either in Spider-man or T-bolts where this was pointed out to a degree and in fact, the last time Brock was around, the symbiote LEFT Gargan mid-battle to re-bond with him. Even when Brock was knocked out, the symbiote protects him. So yeah, given a choice between Eddie and Gargan, it's clear that the symbiote will choose its former boss like it typically does.
Will Spider-Man be Iron Spider on the Pro team? Or will Iron be a character at all?
Quote from: Previsionary on June 10, 2009, 03:15:23 AM
I clearly remember a scene either in Spider-man or T-bolts where this was pointed out to a degree and in fact, the last time Brock was around, the symbiote LEFT Gargan mid-battle to re-bond with him. Even when Brock was knocked out, the symbiote protects him. So yeah, given a choice between Eddie and Gargan, it's clear that the symbiote will choose its former boss like it typically does.
Man, it seems the symbiote is a love sick alien that can't make up it's mind who it wants. Why it would chose Brock over Mac doesn't make sense. Again, more bad writing.
Quote from: TheMarvell on June 10, 2009, 12:35:54 AM
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who is feeling less than thrilled about this game, lol. Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure it is the hideous designs of the characters and their costumes. Plus, I think my interest in the game reached it's lowest point when I saw one of the bigger trailers several months ago. The video was just really unimpressive and freaking UGLY. Plus, now with Wolverine's stupid looking costume "upgrade" and Venom looking like a Rancor from Star Wars, I just don't see myself wanting to play this game... at least not nearly as much as the first one. Right now, at this point, I'm definitely going to see what the reviews and others say about it before checking it out.
And I know they're using the Venom from the newer comics, with Mac Gargan, but dammit, give me the classic stuff any day over anything modern. Mac Gargan is supposed to be SCORPION, lol.
I'm feeling the same reservations. I'm waiting for the reviews and feedback on the "features" before plunking down money on this one. It's seems silly, but those costumes are a "make it or break it" deal for me. I'm not sure why these companies seem hell bent on redesigning characters, when they have tons of existing material to draw from. I also don't see why it's so hard to include alternate costumes. The PS1 version of Spiderman even had 10 alternate costumes. It seems like a no brainer to me...XML1 had minimum costumes, people complained; XBL2 had more costumes, people rejoiced; MUA had 4 costumes per character, and it was perfect; MUA2 has some lame redesigns, and maybe an extra costume = step backward. The fact that they are stating "at least one additional costume", leads me to believe we will be getting an alternate, more goofy costume in lieu of the "classic". Yeah, I'll wait on this one, and probably pick up Arkham instead.
Quote from: daerdevil on June 10, 2009, 01:36:29 PM
MUA had 4 costumes per character, and it was perfect; MUA2 has some lame redesigns, and maybe an extra costume = step backward. The fact that they are stating "at least one additional costume", leads me to believe we will be getting an alternate, more goofy costume in lieu of the "classic".
Firstly, I strongly disagree with the MUA "perfect" statement. By making every character have 4 costumes, they boxed themselves in... Characters like Wolverine were limited to what I would consider an inadequate selection (no classic Wolverine, no leather jacket Wolverine, no AoA... etc.) whereas others felt like they'd been stretched out to get three to four costumes(Silver Surfer, anyone?)... it was a mess. Given the choice, I'd prefer XMLII's sort of random "these costumes fit the characters, so we'll include them."
This is also why "at least one" doesn't actually sit as badly with me... it indicates that all characters will at least have a choice, and they aren't going to give any arbitrary costume amount like last time.
That being said... I would hate to think of the "accidents" that will occur if they mess up Brown Wolverine or Classic Wolverine like they did Astonishing.
I really hope they use the "costumes as alternate characters" such as Iron Man as War Machine, Cap as US Agent, Thor as Beta Ray Bill and so on. You could have Iron Fist as Shang Chi, Elektra as Echo, Power Man as Doc Sampson, Doc Strange as Doctor Druid or Sentry as Hyperion.
Good point about the arbitrary 4 slots (I should know better than use such absolutes like "perfect", but it beats having some characters (Rogue in the 1st XML comes to mind) completely neglected. I just worry about Wolverine getting the standard wife beater as his "at least one" costume. And for the record, The Silver Surfer should have at least gotten some Hawaiian print shorts in MUA :D
If they do only release only one alternate costume design per character...they will most likely make us pay for more alternates as a DLC. They've already stated that new characters will be in future DLCs.
Quote from: Courtnall6 on June 11, 2009, 01:59:51 AM
If they do only release only one alternate costume design per character...they will most likely make us pay for more alternates as a DLC. They've already stated that new characters will be in future DLCs.
Sadly that is a likely scenario and a scary trend that has been growing this console generation.
I hate to say this but Cap's "real world" costume is growing on me. http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14233938/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2/images/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2-20090601081140586.html
Nope. Cap's look does not work for me at all. Like Tomato said about these designs impeding combat...Cap's design is way too heavy and bulky looking for a world class athlete. Also...he has a shield for pete's sake...does he really need all that body armour?
Quote from: Courtnall6 on June 12, 2009, 01:00:12 PM
does he really need all that body armour?
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/random/ca2.jpg)
don't think he would have turned it down
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on June 12, 2009, 11:32:14 PM
Quote from: Courtnall6 on June 12, 2009, 01:00:12 PM
does he really need all that body armour?
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/random/ca2.jpg)
don't think he would have turned it down
:roll: :roll:
*smacks TUE* NO!
Anyway, if you guys care, Civil War Online (http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/en/CivilWarOnline/) has been up for a few days. Consider it a simple multiplayer based strategy game with some Marvel characters. Tis pretty entertaining, but it's not perfect. Of course, it is constantly being updated and it is free, so there's that.
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on June 12, 2009, 11:32:14 PM
Quote from: Courtnall6 on June 12, 2009, 01:00:12 PM
does he really need all that body armour?
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/random/ca2.jpg)
don't think he would have turned it down
He shouldn't have been in that position to begin with.
Quote from: Courtnall6 on June 13, 2009, 03:48:15 AM
He shouldn't have been in that position to begin with.
Why not?
I think that C6 meant that he should not have surrendered. Surely Steve must have known that his enemies would take advantage of the situation and make a move to kill him when he was vulnerable. Thankfully, we will get to see what would have happen if he didn't surrender in MUA2. :thumbup:
Quote from: captmorgan72 on June 13, 2009, 06:27:46 AM
I think that C6 meant that he should not have surrendered. Surely Steve must have known that his enemies would take advantage of the situation and make a move to kill him when he was vulnerable. Thankfully, we will get to see what would have happen if he didn't surrender in MUA2. :thumbup:
I'd would have rather seen what would have happened if someone was sane enough to call BS to the whole Pro/Anti-SHRA, and then state that he will continue to do what Heroes are
supposed to do in the first place. Protect and save lives, and not hunt each other down like wild animals. :angry: Granted, the fact that by donning the mask in the first place, they are breaking the law and should answer for it is valid in anyway, shape, or form. But half the time that seems to depend on what light the media is shining on said person in the first place. I.E. Batman wears a mask and seemingly breaks the law every "Day", Spider-Man however wears a mask, breaks slightly less laws, but catches more grief for it.
Sorry, dead horse I know, but the SHRA* left a bad taste in my mouth. Won't stop me from buying MUA2 however. <_<
*And don't even get me started on the OMD/BND train wreck. :thumbdown:
Quote from: murs47 on June 13, 2009, 04:08:49 AM
Quote from: Courtnall6 on June 13, 2009, 03:48:15 AM
He shouldn't have been in that position to begin with.
Why not?
Captmorgan and NeoDarke pretty much cover it.
Quote from: NeoDarke on June 13, 2009, 07:21:15 AM
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Yeah, but Batman and Spider-man live in different universes. In DC they build museums and monuments to heroes on a daily basis, in Marvel heroes have been mistrusted from day one, be it the X-Men or Spidey or Namor.
Quote from: lugaru on June 15, 2009, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: NeoDarke on June 13, 2009, 07:21:15 AM
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Yeah, but Batman and Spider-man live in different universes. In DC they build museums and monuments to heroes on a daily basis, in Marvel heroes have been mistrusted from day one, be it the X-Men or Spidey or Namor.
Does it still change who has the highest criminal record out of the two? Main reason I went with those two, is depending on the times those two are often the flagship character of their respected universes.
Quote from: NeoDarke on June 16, 2009, 05:34:55 AM
Quote from: lugaru on June 15, 2009, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: NeoDarke on June 13, 2009, 07:21:15 AM
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Yeah, but Batman and Spider-man live in different universes. In DC they build museums and monuments to heroes on a daily basis, in Marvel heroes have been mistrusted from day one, be it the X-Men or Spidey or Namor.
Does it still change who has the highest criminal record out of the two? Main reason I went with those two, is depending on the times those two are often the flagship character of their respected universes.
Oh it is like I said, public attitude in the two universes is very different, one of the main ones is that in Marvel there have always been villains who fight with crazy outfits but heroes have always had another nemesis in civilians with power who can manipulate public perception. Batman has been framed for a couple of murders but spidey has enemies in the press, the x-men have had enemies in congress and religious fundamentalists and the avengers have had to answer to the united nations and federal government. Civil war was just taking things a step further and painting an even darker line between Marvel and DC, which is not bad because it diversifies the market, I can get a painfully grounded story in The Initiative and a fantastic flight of imagination in All Star Superman.
Dunno if you guys still care, but two new characters were announced:
Quote from: activision/ravenWant to know the newest announced characters, mon ami?
That?s right?your favorite card-wielding Cajun, Gambit, is making his debut into the largest army of Super Heroes. Evildoers and haters of suave foreign accents, beware.
Along with this bo-staff-rocking gent, we have a sultry, yet ridiculously powerful, heroine also making her foray into the alliance: the red-haired telekinetic powerhouse, Jean Grey.
Gambit looks... ew. Face work in general is horrid.
Edit: Correcton, his whole look is horrid. Why did they feel the need to give him a red collar?
More X-men that already appeared in both X-men Legends games, how novel. :thumbdown:
I've been looking forward to this game less and less.
See, I'm looking forward to this in the same way I do with most comic games... yeah, I'll probably play it, but only because I am such a huge nerd I cannot stop myself. Which is sad, really, because this was once the series I had the most love for. For all three games before this I kept up with every single new character. Heck, I remember when Xavier was announced, they had that lame video with him following Allyson around the mansion, I remember the EPIC FANBOY RAGE when the MUA people wouldn't show the Classic Cap outfit (which was kinda silly, we all knew they'd put that one in), I remember cheering when I discovered XMLII actually allowed you to go back and pick up stuff you missed.
They did so much RIGHT with this series, from the designs right down to the leveling system... it's a shame to see it go down the road it's on.
I agree with C6. I was so looking forward to this game when it was announced but from what I have seen so far...
I agree, they really didnt need to add more x-men. Im pretty sure it was due to the recent Wolverine movie and X3. What they need are more Avengers like HAWKEYE. He would be perfect for this game. I have a feeling though, that they will save a lot of characters for DLC.
Quote from: gengoro on July 25, 2009, 11:53:43 AM
I agree, they really didnt need to add more x-men. Im pretty sure it was due to the recent Wolverine movie and X3. What they need are more Avengers like HAWKEYE. He would be perfect for this game. I have a feeling though, that they will save a lot of characters for DLC.
Agreed. DLC will be the bane of games like this. They'll release half of the roster for retail release, and save the rest for DLC. Even worse, as evidenced in some recent games like Street Fighter 4 and RE5, the content will already be on the disc, but you have to pay to unlock it. If MUA 2 does this, I simply will not buy it. It's complete bull**** when games do this and I refuse to support it.
And the two new announcements really has me even less interested in this game, unfortunately. I mean really...yay, more X-Men, whoopdie doo. Gambit's a fan favorite, so I can understand including him, but why Jean Grey? They might as well get it overwith and announce Night Crawler and Cyclops too. You know it's coming.
Sometimes I wish they'd just make an X-Men Legends 3 so they can include all the X-Men characters they clearly want to include. MUA should include maybe 4 X-Men tops.
Meh... As much as I agree that really, these weren't the two to include (though, to be fair, Phoenix does add a little additional fun due to her TK.) I really think this X-men hate is unfounded... even if we get Nightcrawler and Cyclops (and I think at least the latter will be DLC), we haven't really gotten overboard yet, especially when you consider that X-men make up most of the Marvel U AND rake in a significant portion of Marvel's profits in general.
Seriously, chill.
I hope they have Sentry in this game, that'd be a ton of fun!
Quote from: Tomato on July 25, 2009, 06:49:19 PM
.....especially when you consider that X-men make up most of the Marvel U
um....no they don't.
Quote from: Tomato on July 25, 2009, 06:49:19 PM
AND rake in a significant portion of Marvel's profits in general.
However, this
is true.
For my part, though I am bored by the xmen, I have no real problem with them being in a Marvel Universe game.
They are in the MU, so they should be in the game.
I hope the roster will be Wolverine, Wolverine's son, Wolverine-girl, Dark Wolverine, Patch, Secret Wolverine, and Ted Wolverine, Wolverine's brother in law. You can never have too much Wolverine :rolleyes:
Cap's costume looks like a slightly overweight man in a poorly made Captain America costume designed by someone with only a passing acquaintance with the character. It reeks of that particular sort of "realism" in vogue at Marvel of late. But again, if people didn't buy comics with be-pouched characters in, they wouldn't keep making them. So it's all your faults *jabs finger wildly at rest of world*
I don't think anyone is upset that they're including X-Men characters. For me anyways, it's more along the lines of being bored with them because they've been included in so many games of this type now. If it comes down to using a lesser known or used Marvel character vs another X-Men character we've always seen, then I'd like to see something new. An X-Men DLC character pack would be cool later down the line (only if it's actually new and I'm not just paying to unlock the content already there). Really, I love X-Men like anyone else here, but sometimes it seems like they make up half the roster.
QuoteHere, with the crowd on the edges of their seats, the games newest playable character was revealed. With a full trailer showcasing him in action, the crowd roared at the revelation of the fallen New Warrior, Penance.
Skolnick described the decision for the former Speedball?s inclusion as only logical, since his evolution into Penance and the path that led there is a story at the very heart of the Civil War. Skolnick thought it worked both thematically and narratively, but the playability and allowance for fusion was also a big factor in the decision. Lastly, he included, Penance just looks cool.
Looks like Penance(Speedball) is in.
http://www.newsarama.com/games/070925-sdcc-MUA2.html (http://www.newsarama.com/games/070925-sdcc-MUA2.html) <---- rest of the article
Just out of curiosity, how many people here have played X-Men Legends 2 as well as the first MUA? (I'm not counting XL1 since the difference between it and XL2 was pretty drastic, whereas the differences between XL2 and MUA are less pronounced)
Graphic rendering quality aside, do you see the series as improving, staying about the same, or declining and what does this indicate for MUA2 production wise?
Quote from: Glitch Girl on July 28, 2009, 06:36:10 PM
Just out of curiosity, how many people here have played X-Men Legends 2 as well as the first MUA? (I'm not counting XL1 since the difference between it and XL2 was pretty drastic, whereas the differences between XL2 and MUA are less pronounced)
Graphic rendering quality aside, do you see the series as improving, staying about the same, or declining and what does this indicate for MUA2 production wise?
Depends. In terms of playability, some things were better, some worse. MUA tried to use some techniques to enhance gameplay, some of which failed pretty badly (that horrible button system for the bosses and bombs) and some of which actually did add to the game (like the sub-quests which impact how the game ends, some of which were easily missed... I missed the Legacy Virus thing my first run through.) Plus, MUA felt more epic then XMLII did, despite both having the whole world in danger.
So yeah, I'd say MUA was slightly better... and, in some respects, I do think MUA2 will be (with the fusion system and all). But as an artist and a fan, I have to say... I just cannot get past some of the designs.
I've played both X-men Legends & MUA, and while I think the series has largely improved, each game has had its own problems as well. I also hated the quicktime events in MUA, and hope they die horribly (though they're probably in MUA2, since every console game seems to have them now).
i just start playing mua . and its fun. i love throwing the shield and watching it pounce off the walls and the bad guys. and i cant wait to pick up the new one when it comes out. any game where i can pick my avengers and have the save the world is cool with me.
Courtesy of Murs, Penance Gameplay video: http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?aid=29766
Quote from: Previsionary on July 29, 2009, 01:33:35 AM
Courtesy of Murs, Penance Gameplay video: http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?aid=29766
He looks awesome in that video! :thumbup:
Jean: http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?videoRef=NA_090724_MUA2_Jean.Grey
Gambit: http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?videoRef=NA_090724_MUA2_Gambit
I'm particularly fond of the Jean video, but these two vids seem to be mostly fusion/super attacks.
Another trailer released at comic-con: http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14233938/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2/videos/mua2_trl_demotailer_72809.html
Quote from: Talavar on July 28, 2009, 07:05:54 PM
I've played both X-men Legends & MUA, and while I think the series has largely improved, each game has had its own problems as well. I also hated the quicktime events in MUA, and hope they die horribly (though they're probably in MUA2, since every console game seems to have them now).
Every designer needs to be FORCED to play through the latest Prince of Persia if they're even considering putting QTE into a game, as well as for other tips about what not to do.
I haven't played the latest Prince of Persia - are the QTE really good, or really terrible?
I'm way more excited for Penance being in this game than I should be. He looks great in the video, which is great since some of the characters (Cap, Deadpool) look bleh. He better have an alternate Speedball costume. :D
I dunno... the animation is good and all, but I can't help thinking "Emo powers ACTIVATE!" as I see it.
Still, Penance actually comes off looking better than most. I'm not liking a lot of the overall looks on the characters. There's a certain "lumpiness" throughout. I agree with Podmark, Cap and Deadpool (and Wolverine too) look really bad.
Turning back to gameplay: Quicktime events can equal yucky boss battles if used wrong. If I spent the time to make a powerful character, I should be able to do some damage instead of waiting to play "Simon" in order to get anything accomplished. Often they seemed thrown in there as token "gameplay variety" and rarely if ever served a positive purpose.
I think the Quicktime stuff is fine, in the proper context... which really, Boss battles aren't. It's one thing to have one for the bombs you need to disarm, but the simplistic nature made boss fights rediculously simple... fights againsts Galactus or the Kraken were easier then tussles with guys like MODOK, which is just silly.
part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x5ttjGvkQA
part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pxqLnNUv1I
live demo for IGN video I randomly found on the [you]tube. Check it out, no?
You have to be VIPs to see them but alternate costumes are being revealed, twenty four in total, one every weekday until launch. So far a cool alt costume for Daredevil (secret wars costume) and for the Hulk we get a very cool looking Red Hulk http://www.flickr.com/photos/41436967@N07/3817551819/. Also, Ms. Marvel has been revealed in her Warbird costume. It is mentioned every alternate costume is an entirely new character model, with a unique mesh and custom textures.
I had never player MUA before, but after wandering in this forum i decided to pick it up. I'm a little disapointed with the graphism but it was a good game, and so now i'm waiting for MUA2 with you ^^
So now the real question: is there any way to make MUA moddable? and for that matter, will MUA2 be moddable?
i'm talking moddable even with external non official tools (like the texture graber of tomb raider that works for battman arkham asylium too)
because it would have a loooooot of potential if it was moddable...
If you have the PC version of MUA, then yes.
For Example
http://tommyboymeshes.freedomforceforever.com/MUA%20Stuff.html
http://tommyboymeshes.freedomforceforever.com/Mua%20meshes%202.html
No idea about MUA2 yet, but probably.
MUA one is heavily modable, tis why I love my PC version... I can have my cake and eat it too. However, MUA 2 will likely be a different animal... firstly, it looks like they may not be making a PC version at all, and even if they do it'll be a good month or so after release.
Furthermore, MUA had an advantage with modders because they could reskin not only the models that came with the game, but because the format system was similar it could also roughly translate characters from other versions (IE: Exclusives) of the same game (with a good bit of effort and determination) as well as import all character models included on the PS2 version of XMLII. MUA2 uses an entirely different engine, so even IF it comes out for PC, we still likely won't be able to add some of the older (and better *gives wolverine hard look*) models
Wolverine's alt costume. What do you all think?
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/Wolviealt.jpg
Quote from: captmorgan72 on August 17, 2009, 10:57:19 PM
Wolverine's alt costume. What do you all think?
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/Wolviealt.jpg
hmmm...hugh jackman + ultimate wolverine
Better than the other costume at least.
bleh...
The more pics and videos I see...the more disappointed I get with the direction they went with character designs. <_<
I don't like the arm guards but the rest seems ok.
Quote from: thalaw2 on August 18, 2009, 02:01:34 AM
I don't like the arm guards but the rest seems ok.
This is exactly what I thought too.
Hmm... Interesting...
What's with all the wobbly trim lines (especially on the shoulder)? Is that all distortion from the figure's pose?
Also not a fan of the gauntlets, can't really see enough of the rest to judge cut and so forth. Overall, not really liking the design team they got on this version.
Next alt is a ultimate universe version...http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/ultreed.jpg
This is for Glitch Girl, so she can see the whole design for Wolvie http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/wolvie-1.jpg
Wow! Reed is a little out there, isn't he? Looks like he's wearing unstable molecules and nothing else.
These character designs are so bad, I'll be waiting for the $9 bargain bin on this game. Talk about a buzz kill. This game is downright ugly. Maybe they'll toss in some comic book style costumes and redeem this mess, but I'm guessing this is a pass for me.
Thanks captmorgan...
Hmm.. not fond of the little target-thing on the back of his neck (it's like saying "Shoot here!"). The gloves almost look sleeker here than in the finished model, but that may be just the pose. Hate the hair. Trim lines aren't too bad, I've seen him in worse.
Guess this probably means they've ditch the classic orange and brown. That one was always my favorite costume for him.
@ Law re:Reed
Guess that's why they call him "Mr. Fantastic" ;)
Seriously though, I don't see the distortion on the lines on this one that I saw on Wolvie's. I wonder why.
Iron Fist's alt costume http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/IronFist.jpg
Quote from: captmorgan72 on August 19, 2009, 09:37:16 PM
Iron Fist's alt costume http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/IronFist.jpg
oh dear god...my desire to play this game is dropping like a rock.
I believe that's an Iron Fist from one of Fraction/Brubaker's single issue stories.
Irrelevant where the costume comes from...it's still hideous.
The sad thing is they are probably going to release the game with all these horrible costume designs...then make us pay for the classic costumes in a DLC.
Probably why it doesn't look like they're releasing a PC version, they know you guys can come up with better costumes. ;)
Actually does anyone know why Marvel ditched Raven software? They've done a pretty good job with XL, XL2, and MUA. I never heard the reason given for them not to continue the series.
Songbird's alt costume http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/songbird.jpg
wow thats ugly :huh:
Quote from: clownprince on August 20, 2009, 10:43:17 PM
wow thats ugly :huh:
I'd write my own analysis, but this really does sum it up.
Quote from: captmorgan72 on August 19, 2009, 09:37:16 PM
Iron Fist's alt costume http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/IronFist.jpg
IIRC, Indiana Jones shot this guy during the Cairo Bazaar fight scene. It was a classic movie moment.
Yep, this game is an also ran. I'll be buying Arkham Asylum and skipping this red headed step-child.
Quote from: captmorgan72 on August 20, 2009, 10:28:51 PM
Songbird's alt costume http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/songbird.jpg
I didn't know Songbird/Screaming Mimi had a rockstar/hooker phase.
:banghead:
(Still wondering why Marvel ditched Raven software.)
Every time someone posts a costume and says something bad about it I think Oh it can't be that bad then I click on it and its worse. Seriously, Its like they're hitting random on s ome create a character thing.
Wow, a lot of negativity here over costumes. I admit, they are not good, but the proof of the game is in the playing, not looking at screen and concept shots.
True Talavar, but until we have some actual game play to judge, this is all we got to decide if we're gonna preorder it, buy it, wait for the bargain bin, or skip.
Let's face it, visual appeal IS a major factor in a game. Image counts, it can make or break a game. Gameplay has to be really REALLY stellar to overshadow bad graphics, though I'm not saying it can't happen.
Quote from: Glitch Girl on August 21, 2009, 03:59:13 PM
True Talavar, but until we have some actual game play to judge, this is all we got to decide if we're gonna preorder it, buy it, wait for the bargain bin, or skip.
Let's face it, visual appeal IS a major factor in a game. Image counts, it can make or break a game. Gameplay has to be really REALLY stellar to overshadow bad graphics, though I'm not saying it can't happen.
But I posted links to actual gameplay vids (live demo) and no one talked about it. Just seems all the focus thus far has been on, "eeew, bad costume," followed by, "EEEEW, worse costume!" :P
So, gameplay... I'm glad they moved the camera closer to the action. Improvement over XML1-MUA.
I'll be honest Prev, I don't consider videos like the Penance video a true gameplay video, more of a character showcase. For one thing there are a lot of fast cuts to various camera angles and closeups which I doubt will be in actual gameplay lest it completely disorient the players. I'm talking about watching a quartet of characters actually go through a part of a level they way it'll actually look. Quick cuts and editing is good for showing the character model, but are deceptive towards actual game mechanics.
EDIT: I just reread your post.. trying to find the live demo link you mentioned. May end up eding this in a moment...
prev's talking about these gameplay vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x5ttjGvkQA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x5ttjGvkQA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pxqLnNUv1I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pxqLnNUv1I)
Yeah, I just found them. Was going back to edit my post but murs beat me to it. Somehow I missed these the first time through...
Quick thoughts: Gameplay looks pretty solid what I could tell, the same squad based beat'em up my friends and I have grown to love. Lots of brekable stuff in the environment, nice. Juggernaut using a soldier like a club is further nice evolution on the grapple moves from MUA. Not 100% sold on the look yet; the screen seemed washed out (might be the video itself, not the game) and everything has a "sculpted" look to it, almost like they're made of plastic, it's kinda odd. Fusion moves look like a nice ugrade of combos from the previous game, that part I like. Swapping out characters in the fly... I'm curious about that - did he really mean that in the middle of a level, you could just pause it and suddenly make your energy drained/low health Iron Fist become full health/energy Gambit or something like that? Wonder if the "heroic deed" that flashed on the screen was an achievement or part of something in the game that unlocks some actual content. The boost system mentioned reminds me of Justice League Heroes a bit, except it seems you can swap them around more and it's for the whole team.
ok, just to put my 2 cents in about the game in general...
Basically, how I feel about games right now is this: While I argue about the over-dependence on graphic software for recent games, I've done enough 3D and pixel art to realize that, at the end of the day, whatever you do has to be visually interesting. It's not like we're talking about one boss that we don't have to look at for very long... we're talking outfits we have to stare at for hours, days, or weeks. And those seemingly nit-picky things we point out are things that will be the focus of our attention when playing, instead of the games as a whole.
But even then, a good game can still overcome bad graphics (*looks at FF7*) if the story and gameplay are fun, to which I'll agree with you Talavar. But then, even on those points it has a major hurdle... because the entire game is based on the "Civil War" books, which to me were sort of... not the low point I guess, but was in my mind the beginning of the mess that is modern Marvel.
That isn't to say I don't think that story could be dealt with properly, mind you... Civil War faltered, in my mind, primarily because it wasn't written as a legitimate political divide so much as a "Tony Stark has gone evil" story. Things really got... silly afterwords though.
My only issue with the gameplay is not that it won't be good... I love MUA's play system, you have to WORK to mess it up... but with all the other issues with this game, will the changes be worth it, or am I better off waiting, and hoping this bombs so they can get back to basics again?
But bad costume design does not necessarily mean bad graphics. The graphics for this look pretty good, with less than stellar costumes.
Guys, it just keeps getting worse. I mean am I looking at Luke Skywalker with blonde hair or what? http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/Torch.jpg
Gameplay looks good. I'll probably get this title because I really enjoyed the first MUA (only hated the Glactus part).
I really gotta build a new computer first though.
Quote from: thalaw2 on August 21, 2009, 10:28:45 PM
Gameplay looks good. I'll probably get this title because I really enjoyed the first MUA (only hated the Glactus part).
I really gotta build a new computer first though.
I don't think that MUA 2 is going to come out for the pc. :thumbdown:
The MJB clan is looking forward to this game. It can not come out soon enough.
Quote from: captmorgan72 on August 21, 2009, 10:45:34 PM
Quote from: thalaw2 on August 21, 2009, 10:28:45 PM
Gameplay looks good. I'll probably get this title because I really enjoyed the first MUA (only hated the Glactus part).
I really gotta build a new computer first though.
I don't think that MUA 2 is going to come out for the pc. :thumbdown:
They wouldn't dare! Would they?
Speaking of the gameplay, those clips look like a lot of fun. The level shown looks more open than MUA 1 (a complaint of mine was that most levels felt closterphobic), and I like the closer-in camera perspective, while still allowing you a long field of vision. In MUA1 you could zoom in close, but only at the expense of being able to see more than a foot in front of your characters.
The graphics look pretty good in action too (still not the costume design; bad costume design =/= bad graphics, remember, despite opinions voiced above). I like that at least some of the game is taking place in street & city levels. I missed that in MUA1, where every level is a fantastic environment.
I'm disappointed that vs mode will not be in this but the developers hinted that it could be available in DLC form later.
QuoteJust seems all the focus thus far has been on, "eeew, bad costume," followed by, "EEEEW, worse costume!"
Character visuals are
very important to me especially in the superhero videogame genre. I absolutely
hated playing the opening mission in MUA1 on the helecarrier. Forced to use Ultimate Cap, Ultimate Thor, and a T-shirt and jeans wearing Wolverine...booooooorrrrrrrriiiiiinnnnng! I had to suffer through those dull costumes until I finally unlocked the classic ones. Then I really began to enjoy the game.
If there are no classic costumes to unlock in MUA2...I have nothing to look forward to.
That's frickin awesome!
(http://cdn.uncaged.com/marvel/mua2/images/blog/jugger1.jpg)
(http://cdn.uncaged.com/marvel/mua2/images/blog/jugger2.jpg)
It's good. I'm not a huge fan of Ultimate Juggernaut's look, but that's better, I guess. Didn't much mind their regular juggernaut though.
Quote from: murs47 on August 24, 2009, 09:04:57 PM
That's frickin awesome!
(http://cdn.uncaged.com/marvel/mua2/images/blog/jugger1.jpg)
(http://cdn.uncaged.com/marvel/mua2/images/blog/jugger2.jpg)
Dang it, you beat me to it.
It looks like he should be fighting Mel Gibson in a Thunderdome.
I think this costume really reflects what Cain is and that is the physical shadow of the dark god that powers him, Cyttorak. I like it.
Thank god they gave us Brock http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/venom.jpg
very cool
Um... I certainly like that design more, but... is there any particular reason for his toes being meshed out?
Venom looks sick!
Looks like those boys went and got lazy today. They haven't posted a pic of the new alt costume. Hmmm, I wonder if these guys are the same boys working on the champion site? :D
oh man! everyone's gonna love this one!
(http://cdn.uncaged.com/marvel/mua2/images/blog/luke1.jpg)
(http://cdn.uncaged.com/marvel/mua2/images/blog/luke2.jpg)
Hey awesome Hancock is in this!
Actually it's not bad. Luke's not noted for his many "costumes" (most of which are just street clothes) so I don't mind this one so much.
Not sure about the pants...but infinitely better than t-shirt and jeans.
They really seem to be targeting newer costumes and ones that haven't been used in the previous games. Also the bad guys (Goblin, Venom, Juggernaut, Penance) look better than a lot of the heroes are coming out.
Still I'm excited for this game, probably not buy it first day excited though. The way I've heard the civil war aspect described it sounds like it might add some replay value to the game.
Why not have his original afro-styled costume? That would be sweet!
Thought for sure it was going to be the ultimate version but glad it wasn't. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/thor-2.jpg I like very much. :thumbup:
I think my skin turned out better :P
Both of Thor's costumes work for me...but the same problem with MUA1 is still there...Mjolnir is too big.
It looks like they gave the costume design credit to the wrong guy. Here is the quote "Inspired by Marko Djurdjevic?s design as seen in Thor |#8.)"
It was Olivier Coipel that designed that costume.
Am I the only one not in the least excited for this? MUA1 was OK, but not earth shattering. Civil War as a story line bugged me immensely. I'm just not sure about a game based around it. I want Cap and Iron Man on the same team! I may pick it up used at some point, but for now I'm just not feeling it.
Nope, there's not much excitement on my end. The character redesigns are so awkward and random they might as well not even slap the Marvel label on them and call it Super Hero Civil War instead of insisting that this is a sequel to MUA. The fact that they have to constantly update and tweak existing characters to make them more "edgy" or "realistic" (both in quotes because I don't think either really describe these ridiculous costume choices) just proves in my mind that they are missing the point of these games. There's plenty of action games out there to choose from, but what makes games with the much protected, trademarked Marvel characters so great is that it they capture the look and feel of those characters. When we're putting Luke Cage into some bizarre spandex suit, and ignoring his comic based costumes, we've basically made him generic. I guess I wouldn't mind them so much, as long as they included a "Classic" look (like in every other version of an XML game) to satisfy the fan base. It just seems like they're hell bent on alienating a core group that would buy this in a heart beat. Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.
As for the Civil War story line, I was hoping in video game format, it could make for some good replayability. I'd be willing to give it a shot if it wasn't a bunch of silly looking characters that vaguely resemble Marvel characters.
No I'm definitely not getting this, because have you seen that box cover art? Who taught a chimp how to use Photoshop? How can I enjoy a game with such ugly cover art? *end hyperbolic overstatement mode*
Seriously though, I'm fairly excited about the game (not Arkham Asylum excited, but excited). It appears to have great gameplay, good graphics, a wide range of Marvel characters to choose from, and it's the sequel to a game that provided me with a lot of entertainment hours. I hope there's a demo though, because I hate buying games without ever getting a chance to actually play them.
I'm not really into it at this point... storyline doesn't impress me, the overall look doesn't impress me (and I'm not just pointing out costumes, I'm talking the look in general... The world doesn't feel right to me, like it's trying too hard to be realistic and not enough actually looking at the source material) and above all... no PC version. At this point I probably will not buy it unless it comes out for PC or is in a bargain bin for <$20 whenever I finally get my bigger console.
But then again, that might change after it comes out... because that's when I'll start hearing about the gameplay. I mean, show videos all you want of it, that's no comparison to a first-hand account from someone who has actually played it. That's gonna be the ice-breaker for me this time around... If there's enough added to interest me, then I'll pick it up. If not... there's always ebay in a year or so.
I heard that one of Cap's alternate skins was going to Patriot and one of Thor's was going to Wiccan. Is that true?
Quote from: AfghanAnt on August 28, 2009, 08:05:43 PM
I heard that one of Cap's alternate skins was going to Patriot and one of Thor's was going to Wiccan. Is that true?
I hope this is true. Prev pointed out Patriot in one of the trailers to me so it's a strong possibility.
EDIT: Here's Jean, First Class mode.
(http://cdn.uncaged.com/marvel/mua2/images/blog/jean11.jpg)
(http://cdn.uncaged.com/marvel/mua2/images/blog/jean22.jpg)
Quote from: murs47 on August 28, 2009, 08:17:26 PM
Quote from: AfghanAnt on August 28, 2009, 08:05:43 PM
I heard that one of Cap's alternate skins was going to Patriot and one of Thor's was going to Wiccan. Is that true?
I hope this is true. Prev pointed out Patriot in one of the trailers to me so it's a strong possibility.
Also I just saw one of Thor's alt and I am very happy he's got the Coipel design for this game. Does anyone know if they are just going to use alternates from the previous game i.e. Ult costumes?
Also they still haven't revealed all the characters yet? What's the deal with that?
Found this http://comics.ign.com/articles/101/1018503p1.html
Quote from: murs47 on August 28, 2009, 08:17:26 PM
EDIT: Here's Jean, First Class mode.
(http://cdn.uncaged.com/marvel/mua2/images/blog/jean11.jpg)
Good lord, who modeled that? That is the worst torso I have ever seen.
Not to mention her poor broken ankles.
The costume in the drawing is not bad, but there's so much IK distortion on the 3D model... ew.
Quote from: captmorgan72 on August 28, 2009, 09:59:44 PM
Found this http://comics.ign.com/articles/101/1018503p1.html
cool, that warmachine art is hawt
Quote from: Uncle Yuan on August 28, 2009, 03:35:59 AM
Am I the only one not in the least excited for this? MUA1 was OK, but not earth shattering. Civil War as a story line bugged me immensely. I'm just not sure about a game based around it. I want Cap and Iron Man on the same team! I may pick it up used at some point, but for now I'm just not feeling it.
No, you're not the only one. I haven't been nearly as excited as I want to be. Right now the game has yet to really interest me as much as the first one. I WANT to be really excited, but I'm not. There's just something about it that seems off to me, and it's not just the character designs. I think the game just looks and sounds too...generic. It doesn't help that the last several "reveals" have made me yawn. Revealing characters that have appeared in most or all of previous X-Men Legends games and MUA1 isn't very new or exciting.
I'm definitely going to read the reviews, both professional and casual, before I drop $60 on this.
Her boobs are HUGE.
Guess they wanted them visible on wide zoom. ;)
I can't say any of the "art" is appealing to me. If the game play is good, i might get it.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on August 29, 2009, 01:33:22 AM
Her boobs are HUGE.
That was the first this I notice and THEN I saw the rest of the costume. So it doesn't matter what her waist or ankles looks like, they wanted you to notice her "upper body"
Quote from: murs47 on August 27, 2009, 01:13:07 AM
Spoiler
(http://cdn.uncaged.com/marvel/mua2/images/blog/luke1.jpg)
(http://cdn.uncaged.com/marvel/mua2/images/blog/luke2.jpg)
meh..
He looks like Black Wolverine.
I have some faith that the new game might be fun. I still give MUA1 a dust off every now and then, and that too suffered from some dubious roster choices, and "ultimate" costume stuff, but was still a fun game. Plus, I just modded in any characters or costumes I actually wanted. Of course, no MUA2 PC sort of puts paid to that....
is thor a standard character? a few uk game shops are offering an exclusive thor character if the game is bought there
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on August 29, 2009, 06:06:06 PM
is thor a standard character? a few uk game shops are offering an exclusive thor character if the game is bought there
Yeah Thor's standard. Juggernaut's not though.
I'm liking all those guys on that IGN article. Especially the War Machine, I love that costume.
Marvel.com has shown some NPCs. Electro, Scorcher, Wonderman. I'll try to find links.
EDIT:
Electro and Scorcher (http://marvel.com/news/vgstories.9321.MUA2_NPC_Spotlight~colon~_Electro~and~Scorcher) - I think Electro looks awful.
Wonderman (http://marvel.com/news/vgstories.9334.MUA2_NPC_Spotlight~colon~_Wonder_Man) - Not liking his either.
Concept for Havok (http://marvel.com/news/vgstories.9358.MUA2_Spotlight~colon~_Havok~and~Rebel_Base) - Might be ok, little overdone.
My wish is that all of the NPCs become playable in DLC form later.
Quote from: captmorgan72 on August 21, 2009, 10:45:34 PM
Quote from: thalaw2 on August 21, 2009, 10:28:45 PM
Gameplay looks good. I'll probably get this title because I really enjoyed the first MUA (only hated the Glactus part).
I really gotta build a new computer first though.
I don't think that MUA 2 is going to come out for the pc. :thumbdown:
Well I won't be getting then. Too bad, despite evil storyline the gameplay looked pretty good.
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Well, that's one of the better ones. His face and the rocky texture look really good. Don't care for the costume, or the "giant arms/stumpy legs" proportions, though.
yeah his face does look cool :thumbup: and whose ever on the recieving end of that haymaker och :blink:
I think these costumes look great, actually. I like that they're staying true to the actual comic-inspired looks, while adding practical boots, gloves, zips, etc.
This game should be a blast.
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Looks cool but do the arms actually do anything?
cool, nice detail on the spider-arms
Some cool npc pics
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(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/warmachine.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/dagger.jpg)
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Just give Thing white and black and/or blue and black trunks...is that so hard?
Still a hideous Spider-Man costume and you just gotta love the pointless piping on Black Panther.
I'm absolutely amazed Lady Deathstrike looks like Lady Deathstrike.
loving that spider-woman and black panther :cool:
I think all these newest ones look great. Cept maybe Black Panther - what's up with the ropes on his chest? They just stick out so much. Also it's kind of bland, a little gold would have spruced it up nicely.
Quote from: Podmark on September 02, 2009, 12:29:10 AM
I think all these newest ones look great. Cept maybe Black Panther - what's up with the ropes on his chest? They just stick out so much. Also it's kind of bland, a little gold would have spruced it up nicely.
Yeah, gold would have looked nice. I was wondering where his anti-metal claws are?
Hobgoblin:
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Quote from: captmorgan72 on September 01, 2009, 10:44:34 PM
Spoiler
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Looks cool but do the arms actually do anything?
Nice, that's what I was waiting to see. Though in the books, he seemed to change his fighting style quite a bit when he was Iron Spider, he had the arms, and he was bulletproof and I think he could fly or something. Is it just going to be a costume change?
Hobgoblin looks cool, except he seems to be missing his cape in-game. Liking the others, too.
I recall it being posted that each alternate costume had different animations or some such. Maybe I imagined it? Anyway, news (http://psylocke-butterfly.blogspot.com/2009/09/psylocke-in-marvel-ultimate-alliance-2.html):
Back boxart 1 (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vmizTggXAos/Sp1bC4f-FFI/AAAAAAAAA7A/96NqiGInLmA/s1600-h/MUA2-BackCover.png)
Back Boxart closeup (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vmizTggXAos/Sp1bB154GlI/AAAAAAAAA64/J5I2aubFkvw/s1600-h/MUA2-BackCover2.png)
Looks like Cyclops, Psylocke, and Blade are exclusives for Wii. Gah, I was really hoping they'd move away from the exclusivity crap.
Quote from: Previsionary on September 03, 2009, 05:01:09 AM
Looks like Cyclops, Psylocke, and Blade are exclusives for Wii. Gah, I was really hoping they'd move away from the exclusivity crap.
NOOOOOOO! Stupid Wii - why does my favourite character go on to the console(s) I don;t own??! I HATE console exclusivity :(
I would probably get the Wii version for them if I didn't know for sure it would have terrible motion controls.
Alright, I'm old. I don't get the flying Spiderman with arms thing. Those others look pretty good...even Black Panther seems decent, but the ropes are a bit pointless. Glad to see Hobgoblin.
Exclusives, bah! Of course, those are 3 characters I'd not use anyways, but I loathe seeing how I bought the wrong console when it comes to exclusive characters. Reminds me of buying MUA for the PS2 where the PSP got exclusives.
I'm hoping the reviews will sway me, but still a bit luke warm on this one.
Exclusive Ultimate Fusion Developer Diary HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-ultimate-marvel-ultimate/55397)
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anybody seen the tv commercial where cap and ironman are arguing who gets juggernaut?very funny. :lol:
so is Hobgoblin another playable character, an NPC, or just an alternate skin of Green Goblin? Cus, from the looks of it, he seems to be another skin for GG.
Why must they do the exclusive crap? Can't everybody just get the same game with the same features regardless of what system you buy it on? Does the 360 get any exclusive characters or are they screwing that system over?
More NPCs
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(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/Prodigy.jpg)
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(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/Moonstone.jpg)
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check out this gameplay video plus Q&A with some of the Gamespot crew.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/marvelultimateallianceiifusion/video/6216873/gamespot-presents-now-playing--marvel-ultimate-alliance-2?hd=1&tag=topslot;thumb;3
This is looking a lot better now, even though most of the costumes look awful (especially Wolverine). I'm kind of disappointed with some of the roster as well. I don't see Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, or Dr. Strange at all, which is surprising, and no She-Hulk or Punisher is disappointing. But I have to say my interest in the game is a bit higher now after seeing it more in action. Those fusion powers do look pretty sweet.
She-Hulk is actually in this game as a npc and who knows, maybe a DLC later.
Ever wonder what Penance looks like under that costume?
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I looked at these screenies and was super impressed with the detail of the costumes on the non-superhero npcs that you fight.
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/marvelultimateallianceiifusion/images.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gsimage&tag=images;header;more
Wii gameplay: http://pax.gamespot.com/video/6216798/?hd=1&tag=top_storiesplay_btn7
Looks like Psylocke and Blade ARE playable exclusives (BLAH)... and do I see Hulk using a turret? Silly. On the other hand, 26 playable characters is a small improvement over the MUA roster.
edit:
Psylocke, Blade, and (boring) Cyclops will be exclusive to PSP, Wii, and PS2. Also of interest:
Quote"DLC content is not necessarily limited to the exclusives that were just revealed. DLC content does not necessarily exclude the exclusives that were revealed. Who knows, maybe it?s some combination of characters you?ve seen and all-new playable characters..."
And more info on the wii/ps2 version here: http://www.herohq.com/forums/viewthread/12877/
Meh. Looks like a typically Wii-noying game. Though maybe not.
Thats Penance's alt? Blargh I wanted to play as Speedball! :(
Quote from: Podmark on September 07, 2009, 02:51:43 AM
Thats Penance's alt? Blargh I wanted to play as Speedball! :(
hmm how did i miss this? i'm sure there will be multiple alternate costumes like mua. they're probably just keeping them hush-hush.
is his nipple pierced? :blink:
Quote from: murs47 on September 07, 2009, 03:58:06 AM
Quote from: Podmark on September 07, 2009, 02:51:43 AM
Thats Penance's alt? Blargh I wanted to play as Speedball! :(
hmm how did i miss this? i'm sure there will be multiple alternate costumes like mua. they're probably just keeping them hush-hush.
is his nipple pierced? :blink:
One of the vid interviews I watched seemed to say there will only be one alt each out of the box. Hopefully that's incorrect.
Nope, that's not incorrect. Only one alt per character.
But there will be more to unlock, right? :mellow:
If you mean more alts no, only one per character (unless the devs are misleading us). Some characters like Thor and Hulk need to be unlocked. I can understand why there is only one alt per character when you see how much feaking detail is in not only the superheroes but the npcs too. I was looking at some of the screen shots and marveling at the detail of a SHIELD soldier in a heavy armored suit. A relatively insignificant character that has tons of detail in his design is a good indication of how much work went into this game.
that bites. im a little more critical of some of these alt choices then. a semi-nude penance over speedball? fail.
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Ugh... what was wrong with her Black Panther/Uncanny costume? I hate the Astonishing/Bianchi (look alike) costume.
Quote from: Previsionary on September 09, 2009, 12:27:15 AM
Ugh... what was wrong with her Black Panther/Uncanny costume? I hate the Astonishing/Bianchi (look alike) costume.
Amen. Although I don't like the BP/Uncanny costume much either, still better though.
But I hate that costume but I gotta admit they did a pretty good job with in the game. I actually kinda like it :(
I think it looks great, better than the comic version for sure.
Bullseye and Madrox look awesome! (http://comics.ign.com/articles/101/1018503p10.html)
Quote from: Podmark on September 09, 2009, 02:00:42 AM
Bullseye and Madrox look awesome! (http://comics.ign.com/articles/101/1018503p10.html)
they do indeed :cool:
Allz I gots to say is helllooooo Storm! I hope she's not as useless as I found her to be in the last game.
Quote from: thalaw2 on September 09, 2009, 06:27:51 AM
Allz I gots to say is helllooooo Storm! I hope she's not as useless as I found her to be in the last game.
Wow! I found Storm was awesome. I loved to drag the opposition in the air with her tornado then area effect lightning them while they were in the air.
Which brings me to what would be a huge improvement. Bosses need to be subject to grabs , knockback etc. Also it would nice if they be in the same scale not made larger than they should be just to " be impressive".
Ugly.
Bullseye in a standard costume, and looking great! Looks like the supporting cast is the best part of the game...maybe in the end that's what'll make this game shine. I really don't get the whole change just for the sake of change deal with the outfits. It really bums me out that they're taking a step backwards by having only one alternate suit (and they are even more bizarre than the standard costumes). This really should have been a pre-order for me, but I'll wait for reviews and inevitable price drops.
This baby has been a pre-order for me for awhile. I am drooling in hysteria waiting for this one. I guess I am alone. :unsure:
there's only one alternate costume per character out of the box? That SCREAMS ripoff DLC all over it. I can see it now. A month or two after release. Just pay another $10 for the "classic costume pack" and another $10 for the "ultimate costume pack" etc etc. Or even worse, the costumes are already on the disc, and you have to pay to unlock them. :doh: DLC has mostly been a curse for this generation of games.
At this point, even though I'm disappointed with the roster and their looks, I'm still tempted to buy it if only for the fact that I haven't bought a new game in a while and I haven't played an action RPG like this since, well, MUA 1.
Patriot! (http://comics.ign.com/articles/101/1018503p12.html) :thumbup:
Quote from: TheMarvell on September 09, 2009, 11:41:23 PM
there's only one alternate costume per character out of the box? That SCREAMS ripoff DLC all over it. I can see it now. A month or two after release. Just pay another $10 for the "classic costume pack" and another $10 for the "ultimate costume pack" etc etc. Or even worse, the costumes are already on the disc, and you have to pay to unlock them. :doh: DLC has mostly been a curse for this generation of games.
At this point, even though I'm disappointed with the roster and their looks, I'm still tempted to buy it if only for the fact that I haven't bought a new game in a while and I haven't played an action RPG like this since, well, MUA 1.
This is one reason why I have avoided consoles for years. They have manged to make playing dress up with your characters something you have to budget for. And it's hard to share content and mods with others.
Quote from: thalaw2 on September 10, 2009, 02:50:33 AM
This is one reason why I have avoided consoles for years. They have manged to make playing dress up with your characters something you have to budget for. And it's hard to share content and mods with others.
Agree completely. There's certainly nothing cooler than the modding communities built around some PC games. Theone here is certainly one of the absolute best ever.
I buy consoles games because my TV likes them better.
Oddly enough I don't mind paying for DLC because it is extra work in their creative pipeline (those models don't 3d themselves) that are frankly pointless to the story and only for fan wank. I guess working for a company that was involved in some of the early stages of DLC, I know how costly it can be to create and distribute across multi-platforms (PC, 360, PS3, etc).
Also people should stop expecting professional work for free - you enjoy making money why shouldn't the people who create your enjoyment?
Patriot as an NPC is disappointing. I guess Captain America's alternate costume is going to be that fugly Secret War costume...urgh...
Quote from: AfghanAnt on September 10, 2009, 01:55:35 PM
I buy consoles games because my TV likes them better.
Also people should stop expecting professional work for free - you enjoy making money why shouldn't the people who create your enjoyment?
I buy PC games because of wonderful people like you and the fact I myself can often customize my experience. My version of oblivion is so heavily tweaked it resembles no one else's.
I don't mind paying for extra content but if its not offered on my platform of choice its kind of annoying.
Quote from: steamteck on September 10, 2009, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: AfghanAnt on September 10, 2009, 01:55:35 PM
I buy consoles games because my TV likes them better.
Also people should stop expecting professional work for free - you enjoy making money why shouldn't the people who create your enjoyment?
I buy PC games because of wonderful people like you and the fact I myself can often customize my experience. My version of oblivion is so heavily tweaked it resembles no one else's.
I don't mind paying for extra content but if its not offered on my platform of choice its kind of annoying.
Well if this is an argument over MUA2 the developers could argue that the DS/PSP, 360/PS3, and Wii version are all created independently and as such as different game - I.E. Same plot/titles does not equal the same gameplay (looks at MVC2 on PS2 versus XboxLive).
Also Wii and DS/PSP getting extra characters is because unlike PS3 and 360 there isn't going to be any DLC (even though all of those devices are capable). Would I love if Psylocke was on the 360 version? Yes, very much so but having her on the Wii version plus the difference in gameplay means they will sell more copies of the game and most likely make more in the future.
As for PC gaming, it has been on the fringe of next-gen gaming for a long time now. Consoles reign because they don't force you to upgrade every time a new title comes out and they aren't outdated in 6 months.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on September 10, 2009, 01:55:35 PM
I buy consoles games because my TV likes them better.
Oddly enough I don't mind paying for DLC because it is extra work in their creative pipeline (those models don't 3d themselves) that are frankly pointless to the story and only for fan wank. I guess working for a company that was involved in some of the early stages of DLC, I know how costly it can be to create and distribute across multi-platforms (PC, 360, PS3, etc).
Also people should stop expecting professional work for free - you enjoy making money why shouldn't the people who create your enjoyment?
Patriot as an NPC is disappointing. I guess Captain America's alternate costume is going to be that fugly Secret War costume...urgh...
I don't mind paying for DLC if it's content that was actually developed after the game was released and they actually make it worth the price. GTA4 and Fallout 3 are great examples of games that utilize DLC the right way. What I do NOT approve of, however, is paying for stuff that is either already on the disc (Street Fighter 4, Resident Evil 5) or stuff that should have been already included in the game (Prince of Persia, and again, Street Fighter 4). I find it almost offensive when I see DLC announced for a game that hasn't been released yet, or has only been out for a week. And in MUA2's case, it'd be all too easy for them to take advantage of offering DLC the wrong way. I understand a lot of it is Microsoft's and Sony's fault though (just look at The Orange Box. Valve has wanted to release content for free for a long time, but Microsoft won't let them unless they charge).
Quote from: TheMarvell on September 10, 2009, 09:29:55 PM
What I do NOT approve of, however, is paying for stuff that is either already on the disc (Street Fighter 4, Resident Evil 5) or stuff that should have been already included in the game (Prince of Persia, and again, Street Fighter 4).
What was already on the disc that you paid for and what should have been include that wasn't for Street Fighter 4?
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Quote from: AfghanAnt on September 10, 2009, 08:59:25 PM
As for PC gaming, it has been on the fringe of next-gen gaming for a long time now. Consoles reign because they don't force you to upgrade every time a new title comes out and they aren't outdated in 6 months.
Yep I know but I still way prefer PC gaming. The only games I really love are easily customizable and moddable.
Courtesy of LaPa (Laughing Pdox), here's the first 8 minutes of MUA2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgi8yrolNzg
Sweet, great find. The moves all look the same to me though. I guess I won't really know till I play it.
Oh Rick how did you let them do this to you in a video game too? (http://comics.ign.com/articles/101/1018503p13.html)
Quote from: Podmark on September 11, 2009, 03:08:11 AM
Oh Rick how did you let them do this to you in a video game too? (http://comics.ign.com/articles/101/1018503p13.html)
:rolleyes:
at least they did good job creating...very high detail there
Oh, very cool. I actually would have preferred Blonsky but Rick will do. Looks like Rick's Abomination is loads tougher than Emil's anyway.
Didn't we get that costume last time?
Quote from: captmorgan72 on September 11, 2009, 11:02:10 AM
Oh, very cool. I actually would have preferred Blonsky but Rick will do. Looks like Rick's Abomination is loads tougher than Emil's anyway.
Yep, way preferred Blonsky but they seem to have done a nice job with what they had to work with. The original abomination would have really been sweet to see though.
Costume spoilers
Spoiler
Gambit is Death, Ironman's his classic armor, and Deadpool gets his Ultimate get-up. http://s1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/mayyou/
nice find AA, while i never liked the way he was written, i do dig Deadpool's ultimate look.
Theoretical DLC to get classic costumes. One more reason I'll wait for the price drop. I don't mind the DLC milking too much, but it definitely makes me think twice about shelling out $60 on the initial release.
Glad to see that Ironman gets a classic alternate. The Daredevil one actually looks good to me (much better than that black armored one he had in the comics).
Urgh...So do you guys want to know who the secret character is...
Spoiler
frelling Robo Nick Fury...
(http://afghanant.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/robofury.png)
yeah they pulled a Cyber-Akuma (http://www.freewebs.com/raijin-akuma/gouki/cyberakuma-f5.gif) on us...
O wow
:blink:
Spoiler
Close up - (http://afghanant.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/robofury.jpg)/
Nice find AfghanAnt!
Spoiler
Very cool to see Tony in his classic armour and Ultimate Deadpool is decent. The secret character really really ticked me off. I thought for sure it was going to be Nova. They better have an unbelievable story behind this RoboFury.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on September 10, 2009, 10:30:39 PM
Quote from: TheMarvell on September 10, 2009, 09:29:55 PM
What I do NOT approve of, however, is paying for stuff that is either already on the disc (Street Fighter 4, Resident Evil 5) or stuff that should have been already included in the game (Prince of Persia, and again, Street Fighter 4).
What was already on the disc that you paid for and what should have been include that wasn't for Street Fighter 4?
I might be wrong about this, but wasn't the classic costumes for each character already included on the disc and they made you pay for it to unlock? If not, then this is definitely something I think should have already been on the disc, free of charge. And c'mon, if DLC is going to be released a month after the game releases, then why isn't the full game just pushed back a month so they can include it? Like I said, some games utilize DLC in a great way, including MUA1. I don't mind paying extra for new characters they release 6 months to a year later. But if I see an announced character pack a few weeks after release you'll get to buy before halloween, I know I'm not the only one who's going to be ticked off.
and I'm not saying those who work on the new stuff shouldn't be paid. They definitely should. But they need to make DLC worth it and not feel like a ripoff.
anyways, back on the game, it seems like each new announcement makes my heart sink more and more. That secret character takes the cake. is that for real?
Quote from: TheMarvell on September 11, 2009, 06:24:05 PM
I might be wrong about this, but wasn't the classic costumes for each character already included on the disc and they made you pay for it to unlock? If not, then this is definitely something I think should have already been on the disc, free of charge. And c'mon, if DLC is going to be released a month after the game releases, then why isn't the full game just pushed back a month so they can include it? Like I said, some games utilize DLC in a great way, including MUA1. I don't mind paying extra for new characters they release 6 months to a year later. But if I see an announced character pack a few weeks after release you'll get to buy before halloween, I know I'm not the only one who's going to be ticked off.
and I'm not saying those who work on the new stuff shouldn't be paid. They definitely should. But they need to make DLC worth it and not feel like a ripoff.
anyways, back on the game, it seems like each new announcement makes my heart sink more and more. That secret character takes the cake. is that for real?
All the SF4 characters we in classic costumes on Xbox360, you have to unlock additional characters by playing the game (which isn't DLC) and they later had DLC packs for new costumes like this - http://www.consolecuties.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/cammypants580.jpg
Wow! The MUA2 boards are on fire with outrage and anger over the reveal of the "secret character".
maybe this is a late april fool's joke? Also, what's with the lack of magic characters this time around? No Scarlet and no Strange? Silly Mua2. I figured that had become one of their staple slots.
Well, I've got to say that the secret character blows. I wish it was Nova (or about a dozen other characters).
(looks at secret character)
(gags)
Out of all the characters in the Marvel roster, they went with THAT?
It will all make sense when you play through the game. Check out the launch trailer http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2-videos/1348069
I can't believe this is may not be coming to the PC! Is it because DLC won't fly to well on the PC?
Now this just reinforces why I'm not very excited for MUA2. It seems like the design team just doesn't get it. The costumes are just wrong; the character selection is lackluster; the secret character is just meh--
Spoiler
Fury? Really? there's no other characters to put in? we couldn't find a secret character that wasn't the secret character from MUA? We also had to put him in some redesigned outfit that makes him look like a design reject from Robocop?.
I hate being negative because I'd prefer to see Super Hero games thrive, but this one just gets too many things wrong in my book. Granted, I don't play games for just one unlockable character, but this game looks like it's steered clear of the cool unlockable costumes I expect in this genre.
Everyone is feeling the same way on the MUA 2 boards daerdevil. The devs have responded and promised us that it will all make sense when we play the game.
Spoiler
They didn't want the secret character leaking out because they knew this frenzy would happen. They compared it to reading the last chapter of a book first or seeing the last 15 minutes of a movie and thinking it's all idiotic and ridiculous. They asked us to play the game first and if you still feel that way, then go ahead and light your torches and grab your pitchforks.
Quote from: captmorgan72 on September 12, 2009, 02:14:33 AM
It will all make sense when you play through the game. Check out the launch trailer http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2-videos/1348069
No. It really does not make sense.
Quote from: thalaw2 on September 12, 2009, 02:46:57 AM
I can't believe this is may not be coming to the PC! Is it because DLC won't fly to well on the PC?
It wouldn't be worth the development time spent on a PC version.
Quote from: captmorgan72 on September 12, 2009, 02:08:50 PM
Everyone is feeling the same way on the MUA 2 boards daerdevil. The devs have responded and promised us that it will all make sense when we play the game. Spoiler
They didn't want the secret character leaking out because they knew this frenzy would happen. They compared it to reading the last chapter of a book first or seeing the last 15 minutes of a movie and thinking it's all idiotic and ridiculous. They asked us to play the game first and if you still feel that way, then go ahead and light your torches and grab your pitchforks.
No offense but I think you are making excuses for them. Even if it wasn't leaked it would be incredibly disappointing because of his position in MUA and the completely bastardized the characters concept.
AfghanAnt, have you played this game already? No? Then how do you know that it doesn't make sense? Why do you think I am making excuses for them? I haven't played this game yet, I don't know how the story plays out. Finding out who the secret character is before ever playing the game is naturally going to seem strange. It doesn't make sense because you haven't experienced the story yet. Maybe even after the story is told, it will still stink but at least let's give them the benefit of the doubt. These people have poured their souls into this project for years. Your an artist (a damn fine one) so you can appreciate their level of commitment and pride in their creation.
... I got a ps3 this last week, so after re-buying MUA1 (long story) and playing it, I was considering the possibility of buying it since I had a next-gen console capable of playing it (since, y'know, jerks aren't putting it out for PC).
However, after seeing the alternates for Storm, Green Goblin, and Robo-Fury... no. I give up.
This is from the MUA 2 forums. One of the employees of VV that calls himself News Lad on the forum had this to say:
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MidnightSun - 11 September 2009 10:54 AM
I?m sorry News Lad as you have been really great about answering what questions you could as soon as you could but in what way is the slap in the face that is the secret character not ?shock value?? Or the fact that the ?iconic? costumes these characters have worn are for the most part left out for ?edgy? costumes that the characters are hardly recognizable in? I have to agree that I?m disappointed as well. It seems almost as if throwing curve jimmies at us was more important in the decision making than fan expectations.
News Lad:
The secret final character was never intended to be revealed. You?ll notice we?ve done zero marketing of that character?no build up, no teases, no ads. We?ve said the bare minimum on them, which is ?there is a hidden secret character who we won?t reveal, ever.? We couldn?t do anything more than that without spoiling a bunch of plot stuff. The ideal scenario would be for people to have played through and unlock them in the proper place in the story, so they?d get them with full context. The best way to see why we included that character is to play through the game. However, after launch I?ll give detailed reasons (on the Spoilers forum ONLY) as to why they?re included. It will be in a heavily-disclaimered thread, because to fully explain it I basically need to unravel the entire game?s plot and go over it, point by point. For the fans that want that, I?m happy to do it, but for most people playing the game will be a superior experience.
As for alt costumes, I can talk on them specifically later, but we wanted to include a mix of classic costumes and Civil War / Secret War costumes.
To make one point in particular:
It seems almost as if throwing curve jimmies at us was more important in the decision making than fan expectations.
This is completely and 100% NOT THE REASON we included that character. :(
Also, I?m not upset at all that people don?t like the roster (frankly, if I heard about that character without playing through the game first, I?d want to know what was up), but I am really upset that people think this is why we have them in the game. I wish the game was out today so I had clearance to explain why this isn?t the case, but I?m not allowed to until the 16th.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on September 12, 2009, 03:09:44 PM
It wouldn't be worth the development time spent on a PC version.
You see the problem is other people have the incredible unluck to like the platform I do. Once I played and liked the first one the chances of it coming out on PC became nil. I admit it its all my fault. :D
Seriously I find it typical that all the folks I know young and old buck the larger trend. most of the adults and teens and kids I know prefer PC gaming even if they have the other platforms. Maybe its a regional northern Va thing.
Guyver-Fury is a weird choice but maybe he brings a completely different play style which is always a good thing in a 60 dollar video game. Here's to hoping.
Quote from: captmorgan72 on September 12, 2009, 04:34:50 PM
AfghanAnt, have you played this game already? No? Then how do you know that it doesn't make sense? Why do you think I am making excuses for them? I haven't played this game yet, I don't know how the story plays out. Finding out who the secret character is before ever playing the game is naturally going to seem strange. It doesn't make sense because you haven't experienced the story yet. Maybe even after the story is told, it will still stink but at least let's give them the benefit of the doubt. These people have poured their souls into this project for years. Your an artist (a damn fine one) so you can appreciate their level of commitment and pride in their creation.
Let me copy and paste what I said for you to read again:
Even if it wasn't leaked it would be incredibly disappointing because of his position in MUA and the completely bastardized the characters concept.I know it doesn't make sense that Nick Fury is the robotic super villain of the game and that's all I was referring too. I didn't call it a bad game because I haven't played it but I do know
Evil Robo Nick Fury doesn't make sense.
Ok, AfghanAnt, I can see trying to reason with you is not going to work. So I will just copy and paste what I said for you to read again:
It doesn't make sense because you haven't experienced the story yet.
oh boys! It's just a game. What may not be coming to the PC!!!!! I can't help thinking that the only reason for this is profits from DLC. I don't want to invest in a next-gen system because I think it's a waste of money as I see that the future of gaming will change dramatically after Intel's new chips take hold...heck even the operating system as we know it may be on it's way o-u-t.
he's the bad guy in the game?
no idea. Maybe it's really the bastardization of a Fury LMD and a Doombot, who knows. One thing that has me bothered is I preordered this for Juggernaut and I got the thing from Gamestop to be a VIP member of the site but I still have not gotten any email back from the MUA2 site to log in and its been like 2 weeks.
I just want to say this game is gonna be HOT! I can't wait for Tuesday! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
You know Torch, I think you and I are the only ones here who are looking forward to this game. It's almost here!!! :thumbup:
if anyone has pre-ordered have they got their Juggernaut code yet? I was told it would be by email 2 days before the release date.
give it a try, then say what you think about the game.not trying to provoke an arguement but better to know what your talking about before you talk.same thing with someone saying a movies bad but when you see it you liked it and couldnt understand why they didnt.i like the classic looks in characters too but even with costume changes they are still the same characters. peace! :)
Watched some videos of some more gameplay on YouTube. Some people have already received and finished this game. Guess they have friends in the right places. This link http://www.herohq.com/forums/viewthread/13870/ is from the MUA 2 spoiler forum. I just watched the game play, didn't want to see the cut scenes until I play the game. Did see a awesome fusion between Iceman and Wolverine
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Iceman shoots an ice beam at Wolvie and coats him with ice and Wolvie breaks free sending shards of ice in a 360 degree spread. Another was Gambit and Storm, Storm creates a tornado and Gambit throws kinetic charged cards into it. The tornado does it's tornado thing with exploding cards adding to the damage.
It's looking very very cool. Massive upgrade from the first.
i've been watching some of these videos and i think i've made up my mind...i think im going to get it 'cause it looks really fun :thumbup:
Quote from: herodad1 on September 13, 2009, 10:11:08 PM
...i like the classic looks in characters too but even with costume changes they are still the same characters. peace! :)
Point well taken. I'm turning into one of those flaky fence sitters. I just played some Wolverine: Origins (a game I passed on at release) and am getting fired up for more Marvel action. After seeing the MUA2 trailer on the big screen, it does look like it might be a fun romp. I'm just so disappointed by the artistic interpretation of the characters (especially after seeing how nice the "realistic" versions of the Wolverine's costumes came out in the Origins game) that it's been hard to get into MUA2. That and the step backwards in the unlockables department really annoy me. In the end, though, here's a game that will probably be a lot of fun and if I don't pre-order I deny myself the use of the Juggernaut.
I've been playing the Nintendo DS version, and it's a lot like playing the first x-men legends gameplay and grapics wise, i can only imagine ow much better the game will be on a next gen system.
The good thing about the ds version... i don't actually see the redesigns, they all look like classic outfits to me.
My interest in this game is gone. The only way I'll play it now is if I see it the 20$ bargain bin and they have released a classic costume DLC. <_<
Very disappointed with how this game turned out...hopefully MUA 3 will be better...but I doubt it.
Besides...the 15th is NHL 10 day for me anyway! :D
Quote from: Courtnall6 on September 14, 2009, 05:46:27 PM
My interest in this game is gone. The only way I'll play it now is if I see it the 20$ bargain bin and they have released a classic costume DLC. <_<
Very disappointed with how this game turned out...hopefully MUA 3 will be better...but I doubt it.
I was never very excited about the game but after the reveal and a few other details on the game I think I'm going to wait for the price drop.
I still have my preorder for the game but if they do not send me the juggernaut code I will probably cancel it and wait for the price drop
Just received my Juggernaut code :thumbup: Now after work tomorrow it's MUA 2 time! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
It's a Superhero game & it has Electro so i'm in but, I have to admit i dispise not having the classic costumes at launch - Good thing most of the characters i want to play with like Cage & Dare Devil costumes aren't that bad - Since expectations are so low it can only go up from here - If the game sucks i'll trade it in for store credit in a few weeks but, i'm sure theres a little fun to be had in this game - Fingers crossed :blink:
Since I managed to play games in monochrome, I think I can overlook some questionable costume design and I'll probably be picking this up tomorrow. Hope it's good!
I don't get the Juggs code thing. :doh: Does everyone need a separate code to unlock him? Is he a DLC case or is it something existing on the DVD?
I got the code today and yes everyone needs a seperate code. You take the code and enter it in at the X-Box live marketplace on your 360 if thats what you are using. not sure on the PS3. Its what they had me do for SF4 for the collectors costumes
You can also purchase him on Xbox Live if you dont have the code.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on September 15, 2009, 01:56:25 PM
You can also purchase him on Xbox Live if you dont have the code.
Is that true? I read about how there's a free Juggs DLC available to make multiplayer games compatible between versions w/ and w/o him, but I thought the final word was "exclusive" only to Gamestop pre-orders. If you can just shell out some M$ points, than I'll definitely be relieved that I'm waiting this one out.
In other MUA2 current events, anyone playing it yet? I'd love to hear some reviews and opinions on the game. Plus, I need to know if they really screwed us with that whole no stats carrying over to your next play through (except for legendary mode). Kind of kills the replay value IMHO.
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Quote from: AfghanAnt on September 15, 2009, 01:56:25 PM
You can also purchase him on Xbox Live if you dont have the code.
Is that true? I read about how there's a free Juggs DLC available to make multiplayer games compatible between versions w/ and w/o him, but I thought the final word was "exclusive" only to Gamestop pre-orders. If you can just shell out some M$ points, than I'll definitely be relieved that I'm waiting this one out.
In other MUA2 current events, anyone playing it yet? I'd love to hear some reviews and opinions on the game. Plus, I need to know if they really screwed us with that whole no stats carrying over to your next play through (except for legendary mode). Kind of kills the replay value IMHO.
That was my understanding.
I got it and I love it. I only started in a little, but I intend to play later tonight with some friends.. I'll give a better review after that.
Storm is awesome in the game. She really impressed me.
Well if you've played the other Legends or Alliance games then you know what to expect from the camera & gameplay - Only the Fusion powers add a little different flavor - Some are cool some are lame - The graphics are about the same as last alliance or maybe a tad worse (texture wise) - Story is cool so far with Nick Fury stealing the show early on which is suprising because i thought he would be the most boring character - The Electro battle was cool & even more fun on hard mode , My Spidey couldn't do anything to him which was awesome & had to rely on my side chars to blast him - I'll do a play threw or 2 of the game but, if your on the fence about getting this I would just hold off - Spend money on better games like Batman (AA), Champions, CoX, Wolverine & if you need more then come to MUA2 - If they add a Vs mode later on then that would certainly boost my opinion :blink:
I picked up my copy for $9 after trading in Web of Shadows and Batman Arkham Asylum. Gamestop had a promotion going giving me huge trade-in values for both games applied to MUA 2. I was stunned that's all I had to pay. The game of course is loads of fun and I am loving it. Fantastic graphics and many cool changes. It kinda reminds me of the first one on steroids. The camera is much more cinematic now, zooming out and in when appropriate. I just finished the Secret War mission (I think) and for my Bravo team I picked Fantastic Four. Thing looks fabulous and kicks major butt. They all look stellar. I loaded up Juggernaut to see what he looks like and wow. He's freaking huge, Hulk huge. You can see his veins rippling under his armor, very bad a**. Anyway, going to play this one nice and slow, take in everything. Oh, almost forgot to mention Thor.
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I haven't unlocked him yet, but I saw him at Stark tower. Spoke with him and he sounds much better this time. I asked him about his people and he starts to talk about Doom's punishment at the hands of Odin for what he did. Great reference to the story in the first game.
So when can you use Juggernaut in this? I redeemed him but I dont see any info about him at all in the game itself. I went with Cap and I am only startinf the first few missions.
Well, I've played to where you choose sides in the Civil War, and so far I prefer this to MUA1. The Fusion powers are cool (mostly), the boost system is a nice change from the items of previous games, the environments/levels are more fun so far than the esoteric ones from MUA1, and the effects graphics are dramatically improved. I've especially noticed it with Storm's lightning; it's appearance in this game just makes the previous one look anemic.
Quote from: Ares_God_of_War on September 16, 2009, 03:00:33 AM
So when can you use Juggernaut in this? I redeemed him but I dont see any info about him at all in the game itself. I went with Cap and I am only startinf the first few missions.
You can use him the first time you are able to form your own team.
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There is a point during the Secret War where you will form Bravo team to support Cap, Wolverine, Spidey and Iron Man. You can select him there. I chose the Fantastic Four for my Bravo team. They look great, especially Thing.
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O.k. thats dissapointing. I downloaded him and it went through all the steps on my X-Box and said completed but I actually don't have him. In fact I don't even see his outline on the roster. I went anti-reg and I was at the part where I fought Bishop to save Cable.
*edit* o.k. today he is there
Quote from: Ares_God_of_War on September 16, 2009, 12:27:56 PM
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O.k. thats dissapointing. I downloaded him and it went through all the steps on my X-Box and said completed but I actually don't have him. In fact I don't even see his outline on the roster. I went anti-reg and I was at the part where I fought Bishop to save Cable.
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Wouldn't Juggernaut be pro reg?
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who knows, I never had access to him at any point at all originally but for some reason today he is there. Also what is weird is my characters seem a few levels higher than when what I had last night
I know for a long time I've been very uninterested in this game, but after seeing videos of the game in action, my interested got higher. After much internal debate, and finding it onsale for $10 cheaper at a local store, and wanting a new game since it's been a while since I got one, I picked this up.
I've played up to the part where you get to pick sides (roughly 3 or 4 hours in) and I definitely find the game fun. It plays just like the first game with some tweaks here and there. No surprises there. The fusions are really the only shining new aspect of the game, and even those are hit or miss. Basically anything involving storm is a feast for your eyes, but it seems like anyone she fuses with has the same result. For example, Human Torch turns her tornado into a fire tornado. Take a guess what Ice Man does. Yeah, turns her tornado into an ice tornado. But some of the fusions are downright stupid. Guess what fusing Gambit and Wolverine does. They run around the room together and anyone they charge into gets hurt...yeah, what? That's the best they could do? Seriously?! (speaking of Gambit, he is my new favorite character to play as. Picking up objects and making them explode is freakin cool.)
Graphics are also hit and miss. Yeah, it looks sharper, but I can't say I like the color palette. The first game was definitely brighter and much more vibrant. This one is darker and grittier, which makes some of the levels hard to tell what's going on in them.
I'm pretty much just rambling right now. Basically the short end of it is that this game is what it is: a sequel with some minor tweaks and a different style. When boiled down, it's more of the same, so if you played MUA 1 to death like I did but want another game in the same genre, you can't go wrong here. It's not a bad game, but it's nothing new. Most people here aren't on the fence anymore (seems like people either already have it or not interested at all) and I understand that, but I wanted to give my two cents coming from someone who had very little interest in the game based off of how the characters looked...and how they'll most likely handle DLC...
oh, and fyi, anyone can get Juggernaut. That's right, no preorder necessary. Just go to the GameStop VIP website (I'll post a link later) and type in random numbers for the receipt number and in a day or two Gamestop will email you with a code.
So, if anyone was considering the PS2 version, these are some of the things I've learned:
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1. The graphics are considered WORSE than MUA1. Disappointing.
2. Psylocke, Cyclops, and Blade are considered to be good. Psylocke has free telekinesis, Blade got an upgrade and is more useable, and Cyclops is akin to his MUA1 (XBOX360) version.
3. There are some bugs in the game such as the random 100k gold bug.
And for DS, I learned it, too, has two secret characters:
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1. She-hulk
2. Sentry
This character exclusive thing has to stop. One of the characters I wanted to play as most is on a system I would never consider buying the game for. Also, can someone confirm how many powers are useable in the 360/PS3 version? I've seen rather conflicting reports about it (IE: only 4 powers per character).
I beat it yesterday on 360. for X-box its about 4 powers each person and then also fusions as well. and depending on if you are anti reg or pro-reg you unlokc certain skills.
well, apparently the website to type in your receipt for a Juggernaut code has been taken down due to "giving out all available codes" (gamestop.com/mua2vip) If anyone has the 360 version, I have an extra code if you want him. Just let me know and I'll shoot you a PM.
kinda stinks for anyone who did preorder the game. ANYONE could get a code by typing in gibberish and their email. This is why I hate preorder bonuses like this.
Finished this today, I went Anti-reg. Contrary to what a certain "Ant" said, the secret character does make sense in context to the story. Though I couldn't help but think of Locutus. :lol: It actually was well done too, at least I think. Very much enjoyed this one, more so than I did the first. Unlocked Thor and Jean Grey but still not the Hulk. Started my second time through and this time I'm joining Tony. :thumbup:
electro won the code.
finished the game earlier today. anti baby! i started a new game on legendary setting so i will go back and do pro this time.
each character has 4 powers, not including fusions. each character also has 4-6 abilities that increase their stats (i.e. focus, power damage, resistances).
gameplay wise, this game is excellent! the level design has improved greatly over mua1 (no swimming whatsoever, thankfully). thor is godly and the coipel costume looks great!
personally, i could whine about the devs character choices and and lack of costumes, but i won't (anymore).
i didn't really care for the story after act 2.
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and i was very disappointed in the secret character!
http://www.anders-fischer.net/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2-review/
Not an official review, but very thorough none the less. Some of the stuff he mentioned about the previous games mirrors my own views, which has helped me decide on if I need to get or wait on this one.
I can't say I agree with much from that article having played all these games myself, and I've enjoyed many of the changes myself (costume-specific bonuses irritated me, because the best were often the ugliest; magic items didn't fit the setting - though boosts don't really either, and I always found there to be too many redundant or filler powers, so 4 decent ones + passive abilities for each character don't bother me at all). He's right, the storyline does suck, but so did the one in MUA1, and neither of the XML games had stories worth writing home about either.
Glitch, that IS very thorough. BTW, what system were you thinking about getting it on? If it was for ps2, I'd say skip it. Not only did the game suffer graphically (http://www.ebgames.com/common/images/lscreen/1-f51314db-a97c-4730-8ec9-94a3e29f2a37-l.jpg), but it's seems to be the buggiest version (Wii as well) + the shortest of the console versions because they removed tons of extras and most of the actual civil war part of the storyline. Heck, I didn't even mention the slow save and loading times, but all the games seem to suffer from that to some degree. Honestly, from all I gathered, Xbox360 got the best deal of all the versions of the game and PS3 got second best. Why second best, you ask? Well, somehow VV left out the rumble feature for ps3 and the graphics are noticeably worse for ps3 when compared to xbox.
Kinda a mess all over with all these different developers handling different versions of the game, no? In brighter news, DLC content will be announced soon, so maybe they can fix some stuff like saving only works for the host during online play and stuff like that.
I already got warned away from the PS2 version. Since there looks to be a PS3 in my future, it'll be for that one if and when I get it. To be honest, I was surprised when I heard it was going to be for the PS2 at all, and now it seems to have been done as an afterthought.
Hey Previsionary, where did you hear about DLC content getting announced soon? I frequent the MUA2 boards and the devs stated so far there is no news on DLC.
Aren't PS2 versions these days usually similar to/ports of the PSP releases? I remember reading that was the case for Web of Shadows.
About the exclusive characters it doesn't bother me if the DS version has different character than the 360 and PS3. I consider them to be two different versions of those games. Are there any exclusives between the PS3 and XBox? Characters that one has but the other doesn't?
Quote from: Podmark on September 23, 2009, 02:49:13 AM
Aren't PS2 versions these days usually similar to/ports of the PSP releases? I remember reading that was the case for Web of Shadows.
About the exclusive characters it doesn't bother me if the DS version has different character than the 360 and PS3. I consider them to be two different versions of those games. Are there any exclusives between the PS3 and XBox? Characters that one has but the other doesn't?
No... ps2 and psp aren't ports of each other. If PS2 gets a game, it's usually developed for that system with no regards towards PSP and vice versa. The lack of the extra stick on PSP kinda affects that a little. As for PSP's MUA2, it wasn't developed by the same people who did Wii/PS2/DS... whole different company. So, I'd expect some changes on that system as well.
Capt, I remember reading that somewhere, but I can't recall where. I didn't take a note of it in my "bookmark" like I usually would. :P
Also, no, XBOX/PS3 have the same character line-up.
I'm avoiding this game sheerly because a friend said it was a short play and the initial levels were boring.
The first DLC is.....http://ps3.ign.com/articles/103/1033439p1.html
I had absoultely zero interest in this game untill that last link was posted o_o
His alt:
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(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/Carnage.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n301/captmorgan72/carnage2.jpg)
Cool Ultimate Carnage alt. I wonder if it's the Pete or Gwen version.
When I can find it for under 40 for ps3, might pick this up... depends on my mood. *shrug *
apparently it's $30 for wii and ps3 at radioshack.
and really, the wii version is VERY barebones. I played the DS version first and the maps/missions are nearly identical on the Wii version. :/
You know, I hate to say it, but did I totally call this or what? The game hasn't even been out for a whole month and they already announced DLC. It better be pretty cheap, but I highly doubt it.
how do you guys feel about Carnage being one of the first DLC characters? A lot of people feel it's kind of wrong to have this serial killer villain run side by side with heroes like Captain America. Personally, I think he looks pretty cool and as far as I know there has yet to be a game where you can play AS him. However, this kind of makes me wish they'd just make another game called Marvel Ultimate Villain Alliance. It'd be a unique twist on the formula, I think.
Well, considering the team (and Cap) is already running around side by side with Norman and people-eating Venom... Carnage isn't that much of a stretch. My only problem with him being in the game is that he is a character that has literally not been used since the early 2000s? The only reason I can even think of him being a part of the game is because they wanted to balance Spidey and Venom out AND Spider-man (comic) is currently treading in a very 90s direction.
Other than that, though, I find it odd that they're adding in new characters right now when the game is so short. I figured they'd add in new levels or events first, but ok.
It was confirmed by a dev why Carnage was the first DLC. He apparently won a popularity poll given by VV when MUA2 was still in development. Everyone is screaming VS MODE on the MUA2 boards and I hope that VV listens, because that is exactly what this game needs.
well, I just finished the game for the first time. It was fun while it lasted, but all in all, I think I liked the first one a lot better. It was longer, had a better roster, was more colorful, and over all more bang for your buck. But this was still fun none the less.
I think my favorite character in this is Thor. He completely kicked total arse with all his moves. Only bad part about him was his horrible voice. It was so incredibly dorky and cheesy. The guy from the first game was far, far better.
When the game ended, I wasn't really expecting it until it was obvious with the last boss. The only character I haven't unlocked yet is the Hulk. I have 4/5 of those gamma canisters, and thought for sure there'd be one in the last part of the game, but there wasn't. I want to play as him on my second play through now, but where is that last canister?
Overall, I guess a 7 or 8 out of 10. A fun action rpg, but there's a definitely been-there, done-that, and it was better back then, feeling.
Yeah, I know what you mean about the first one. The first one felt more like a huge Marvel epic adventure. It took us everywhere in the Marvel universe. If the first one had MUA2's graphics and fusions it would own. I do disagree about Thor's voice though. I actually really love the voice actor that did Thor this time. I hated Thor's voice in the first one. That one sounded very cheesy to me. Hulk is worth unlocking so you should do it. He's a lot of fun and looks great.
Fun Fact: the guy that voices Thor is also the same guy that currently voices Winnie the Pooh.... I thought it was an odd choice meself; and he [Jim Cummings/Thor] seems to be getting the most complaints on the VA side. :S
Quote from: captmorgan72 on October 11, 2009, 02:41:17 AM
If the first one had MUA2's graphics
Yeah... no. Having just gone through some of MUA2's costumes again (trying to incorporate some ideas from the less fugly MUA outfits, Phoenix, Spiderman, Thor, etc. for something I'm working on) I can honestly say... the engine is good and all, but many of the designs are just plain bad. Iceman's look... bleh. I'd rather not have those in my MUA, thanks.
Quote from: Tomato on October 13, 2009, 05:05:49 PM
Quote from: captmorgan72 on October 11, 2009, 02:41:17 AM
If the first one had MUA2's graphics
Yeah... no. Having just gone through some of MUA2's costumes again (trying to incorporate some ideas from the less fugly MUA outfits, Phoenix, spider-man, Thor, etc. for something I'm working on) I can honestly say... the engine is good and all, but many of the designs are just plain bad. Iceman's look... bleh. I'd rather not have those in my MUA, thanks.
Costume design =/= graphics. They are not the same thing. The
graphics in MUA2 are a significant improvement over MUA1. The
costume design is worse.
Yeah, I meant the graphics not the costume designs. I actually really love Thor's redesign though. Everyone else, not so much.
actually, the cutscenes in MUA1 looked far superior than the ones in MUA2, imo. In game graphics, yeah MUA 2 is better, but for some reason the cutscenes look downgraded.
The cutscenes in XML-MUA1 were done by a superior CGI company though. :P.
Anyway, second DLC character = Psylocke. Check it: http://marvel.com/blogs/Marvel_Interactive/entry/1623
and her alt costume (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/sykseaman/7530_01_0018_20090924-klc62.jpg) should make AA happy... maybe.
pretty darn cool actually
Cable is apparently the next announced character. Read it on IGN. Not a bad addition, but I have a feeling he's going to play like everyone else in the game who has a gun. Shooting bullets and throwing grenades during specials.
From the video it does look like Cable will have at least one TK-based power, a radial one.
According to LaPa, the whole DLC list has been leaked and Cable was on this supposed list, so it makes me think the last 2 characters will be as well (characters behind tag):
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Black Panther (with the ebony blade for the majority of his attacks?) and Magneto (a PS2 exclusive villain)
Also, I find it interesting that VV is giving these characters completely new powers from the PS2/Wii counterpart. Psylocke seems to be more of a scrapper with less focus on her TP/TK abilities in the PS3/Xbox version and more of an all-around character in the ps2/wii version (w/ butterfly effects and capcom-esque psychic drill thing).
Yeah, everybody on the MUA2 boards have known for awhile the DLC list. The list was leaked some time ago and Kalina from VV confirmed the list is accurate. I've played the game four times now and I put it on the shelf, until I get the urge to play it again. The new characters are cool and all but I won't buy them. VV has to give us VS MODE to get me to buy.
Well since Cable is in I will have to buy it *sigh* hehe
What's a Versus Mode for this kind of game?
Same as Rumble Room for FFvTTR. At least that's what I would like to see.
Oh, I thought you meant something like 1 player playing the pro-reg side and another the anti-reg side, which would be cool, but pretty hard to implement. A better danger/rumble room would be cool.
Cool Cable. I hope his alt is the Carey costume.
I never got to play the first game, but I'm debating whether or not to get this one. Is the Wii version worth the money? Is gameplay decent? Graphics?
Quote from: Cyber Burn on October 27, 2009, 11:31:00 PM
I never got to play the first game, but I'm debating whether or not to get this one. Is the Wii version worth the money? Is gameplay decent? Graphics?
Wii version is just like the ps2 version. You're looking at slow load times, quite a few glitches (some that require you to restart levels just to complete it), and sub-par graphics with no online play. On the other hand, you lose Ironfist and gain 3 MUA1 characters of Psylocke, Blade, and Cyclops. Also, you get a few level changes and some different villains. At the same time, you also lose some of the "Civil War" aspects of the game because it's shorter. However, it's cheaper than the ps3/Xbox version. Weigh it out, I suppose, and look at some reviews and gameplay vids to help inform your decision. ^^
Oh man, oh man Psylocke;s alt looks sweet.
Quote from: Previsionary on October 28, 2009, 12:41:07 AM
Quote from: Cyber Burn on October 27, 2009, 11:31:00 PM
I never got to play the first game, but I'm debating whether or not to get this one. Is the Wii version worth the money? Is gameplay decent? Graphics?
Wii version is just like the ps2 version. You're looking at slow load times, quite a few glitches (some that require you to restart levels just to complete it), and sub-par graphics with no online play. On the other hand, you lose Ironfist and gain 3 MUA1 characters of Psylocke, Blade, and Cyclops. Also, you get a few level changes and some different villains. At the same time, you also lose some of the "Civil War" aspects of the game because it's shorter. However, it's cheaper than the ps3/Xbox version. Weigh it out, I suppose, and look at some reviews and gameplay vids to help inform your decision. ^^
Thanks Prev. I think I'll hold off for now then.
so what's everyone's thoughts on the DLC?
I thought overall it was pretty good. I liked pretty much all the characters they added, and was pretty surprised to see that the first pack didn't just include characters we've already played as before, like Cyclops and Nightcrawler. My favorite is by far Cable, followed by Carnage and Psylocke. Magneto and Black Panther are also very good, but I think I used Black Panther the least (but I really like his sword and the moves with it. Those are sweet). When the DLC came out, I had only played the campaign once on the Captain America side, so playing through a second time with new characters and on the Iron Man side was a nice treat. Overall, a pretty good DLC package that's worth picking up if you want to play through the game again.
The extra Sim missions, however, I thought were a joke. In fact, I didn't like ANY of the sim missions in this game as a whole. All the previous games made by Raven had some great ones. But MUA2's sim discs are really bland and boring. Character specific ones with new locales would have been awesome. Instead, you get more crappy sims in the dlc.
If they come out with another DLC pack (and I hope they do) I want another 5 new characters and new sim discs with vast improvement. Remember in XML 1, there was a sim disc where you were the X-Men and had to stop Juggernaut from destroying the mansion? I want something like that. Something with new locations, maybe even a new campaign level. I doubt it'll happen though.
I enjoyed the new characters quite a bit, though I think they're all a step up over most of the original characters (except maybe Thor & Hulk) in power level.
Quote from: TheMarvell on November 21, 2009, 06:08:11 AM
If they come out with another DLC pack (and I hope they do) I want another 5 new characters and new sim discs with vast improvement. Remember in XML 1, there was a sim disc where you were the X-Men and had to stop Juggernaut from destroying the mansion? I want something like that. Something with new locations, maybe even a new campaign level. I doubt it'll happen though.
Bummer about those sim missions. These games are so missing the point with the sim missions. Those flashback missions in the XML games were the best, with that Juggernaut fight being a highlight (they even threw in the old school black/yellow costumes. I just expect better in "Next Gen" games than what was available on a PS2. Recycled scenes/enemies are just plain boring. I'm still waiting on that price drop, though. The DLC characters aren't my faves but at least they're throwing in some characters for the first time.
I love the DLC pack especially Psylocke and Cable. I'd probably play with Magneto more if I knew how to unlock his alternate costume without cheating (same with Carnage). Black Panther is good as a party member but I'm really not that fond of him.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on November 25, 2009, 02:42:47 AM
I love the DLC pack especially Psylocke and Cable. I'd probably play with Magneto more if I knew how to unlock his alternate costume with cheating (same with Carnage). Black Panther is good as a party member but I'm really not that fond of him.
Unlocking Magneto and Carnage's alts is actually really easy. For Magneto, just do the sim mission Overload with Magneto in your party and beat it. For Carnage, do the sim mission Insidious Alliance with Carnage in your party and beat it. Both are really easy with the right team and right boosts.
So... got MUA2 for PS3 yesterday(already the day after, gosh) and the downloads for it are missing... I've checked a few forums, no one seems to know what's going on
yeah I went to get mine and appearently the DLC was a "limited time offer" which pisses me off since they only had it for about a month. What a waste of time and effort.
What? That's incredibly stupid.
are you serious? Why the hell would they take it down after a month?
Are they going to have any more DLC or was that it?
Giving this a bump since I just recently got a used copy and noticed the whole DLC absence...
So what exactly IS the whole story on this, anyone know? All I found is that Activision suddenly said "Hey guess what, it's a limited time offer" and pulled it from all the online stores without another word. I also heard that it dorks up your game if you have it and the person you're doing online play with doesn't or vice versa. Any further revelations?
Not far in (only just picked a side), but my initial impression is a step down from MUA in quite a few areas. And good grief, some of those costumes look like they were sewn together by an inept tailor.
Glitch, what you've described is more or less the whole story as the public knows it. They just decided to work on extras for months, then only had it available for 1-2 months before yanking it down. It's a great business decision, right? Activision sure knows how to make and run a game. :P. Since they also removed the compatibility DLC pack, then yeah, you probably shouldn't play with anyone that has Juggernaut. I've heard a few mixed things about MUA2's online play in general, but I obviously can't confirm anything beyond Juggernaut.
Quote from: Glitch Girl on May 05, 2010, 09:11:27 PM
Giving this a bump since I just recently got a used copy and noticed the whole DLC absence...
So what exactly IS the whole story on this, anyone know?
What I heard was that Activision wasn't happy with MUA2's sales and/or the DLC sales and decided not to support the title anymore. Not sure if that's true or not, but it makes more sense to me than limited time offer.
I got the game a month or two ago and have enjoyed it.
I've heard a little more about this. Basically at the end of 2009, the character rights reverted back to Disney/Marvel. Since the game or DLC didn't sell well by Activision's standards, they decided not to renew the licensing rights. So, both the dlc packs for MUA 2 and MUA 1 were pulled. I've heard that there was a mistake when it came to telling Microsoft though, and instead of pulling JUST the character pack, they pulled everything relating to the game. This explains why there is no media whatsoever on Xbox Live for MUA 2.
it's amazing how crappy Activision has become, really. I didn't buy into the whole online gamer community EA hate, but Activision's hate seems pretty genuine to me. They supported MUA 2 for a whopping 3 months and gave up. What kind of crappy business does that?
The same one that makes
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Borg Nick Fury
Also I hate both EA and Activision. EA customer service for The Sims and Spore is nightmarish and this is from personal experience.
Thanks for the info guys. Wow, boneheaded moves abound on this one.
Progress has been made: I'm in chapter 3 and have all the characters in the selector unlocked except for three (Green Goblin, Venom, and spiky guy who's identity was long ago spoiled for me ;) ) Some thoughts...
Since I never got to put my $.02 in, here's some impressions after gameplay...
1) Thor is a frickin' BEAST in this game. Seriously worth the collectable hunting. Cap was a bit of a letdown after the last game (he was in my core team last time, not this time), but Iceman and Storm are still fun to play.
2) Is it just me, or do most of the main characters in this game act like complete jerks? Especially Reed. I'm playing as Anti-reg so I don't know if it makes more sense when you play Pro-Reg (I can't see how it can) but his whole nanite plan just screams "bad idea" from the get go. Then again, Nick, Iron Man, and Cap all pretty much behave like like jerks throughout. Was it like this in the comic?
3) Whoever created Penance a) must have really REALLY hated Speedball, and B) was never hugged by his mom. I played him long enough to get his alternate costume (anything is better than that masochistic-bondange thing), but his combat commentary completely annoyed the hell out of me moreso than any character in all the XML and MUA games combined. The only good thing is that to get his last boost, I have to walk him around and let enemies beat up on him. The bad news is, that I have to do this A LOT, and I have to listen to him the whole time. Mental note: check settings to see if there's a "Mute Dialogue" button ASAP.
4) I don't know why, but I've kinda enjoyed the audio-log collectables.
5) The Yellowjacket fight: I hated how if you tried to use the wrong kind of fusion attack, it negated it and made you burn a fusion star to tell you so. I just wanted to clean out some of the soldiers that were getting in the way, I KNOW it's not going to do squat to the big guy. At least HUMOR me. Geez! Also, I never thought I'd say this, but this is a battle that could have benefited from a quick time event.
6) I miss the minimap.
7) Gameplay overall has pretty smooth and solid. I played a few maps with my best friend who lives in NYC and it went very well. Powers and passives could use some more variety overall I think. While fusions are a nice idea, there could be more variety there too (example: Thing + Gambit/Iceman/Deadpool/etc look all too similar). I still prefer the way they did super attacks in XL2, but this isn't too bad. Regular hand-to-hand is good, but somehow less dynamic, and I can't put my finger on why (maybe I miss the customized throws)
8) The overall look of the game though... So much ugly. Faces are creepy, costumes look poorly tailored, many areas are too dark or very brown or yellow... I miss the colorfulness of MUA and XL2, but I guess "more realistic" = "more grungy, washed out, and drab". Pbbbth.
9) Speaking of which... only ONE alternate costume? Again, pbbbbth.
10) And speaking of variety.. why did it take getting over halfway through the game to fight something other than soldiers and robots?
11) Only one major game glitch so far - the door to Bishop's area didn't open, and I had to restart the level, which was annoying, but not hideous. So far, far fewer glitches than in some of the past games.
Overall, it was worth the used price I paid (I am having fun, despite all the gripes), but I can see why it didn't sell well the first time out. I can see effort made in some areas, but others just never feel fully realized. There's a little too much "leading you around by the nose" in some areas too and so much of the character design is gawd-awful ugly.
'tis a shame though. It's a good franchise, if only done right.
Quote from: Glitch Girl on May 10, 2010, 05:46:58 PM
2) Is it just me, or do most of the main characters in this game act like complete jerks? Especially Reed. I'm playing as Anti-reg so I don't know if it makes more sense when you play Pro-Reg (I can't see how it can) but his whole nanite plan just screams "bad idea" from the get go. Then again, Nick, Iron Man, and Cap all pretty much behave like like jerks throughout. Was it like this in the comic?
Hrm... Civil War wasn't a good time for the majority of the characters involved. This is the exact period Iron Man became a major jerk and his fan base fell tremendously (as did Reed's). Suffice it to say, the event was criticized as having way too many out of character moments, and while it may have been a good idea, the execution wasn't the best. It took years for some of the characters to shake off the negativity they gained through that storyline. With Ironman, it took a movie and a new comic book that took elements from said movie. :P
The No, No is Superheroes acting with the Goverment - They fill in the spaces between goverment & individual - Cap was right not to join & marvel was stupid to think this was a good idea in the long run - I don't like Goverment & I don't like anarchy - Hail the Individual (with a dash of Goverment) - That's why the comics sucked & eventually the game failed - Not even Deadpool could save it :blink:
Yeah, the storyline in the comics (read for free in TPB from the library) were pretty darn terrible. While it's a great idea for a story, it was executed quite badly. I haven't played this game, but all the stuff I heard up to the release made me not terribly interested.
Here's a Nyce update:
http://oneofswords.com/2010/06/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2-dlc-returns/
Updated: http://oneofswords.com/2010/07/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2-dlc-returns/comment-page-1/#comment-1788
^that link doesn't work, but basically Activision is re-releasing the MUA2 DLC for a limited time (until 12/31/10). Not sure about the MUA1 DLC, but it doesn't look like it. Probably best to buy the gold edition of that game if you don't already have it.
It's a shame this game isn't getting recognized. It started out as a game that really didn't look good to me, but then I got it and it's honestly a lot of fun. It had some great potential for future DLC character packs, but alas, I doubt we'll see a MUA 3 now, since this one sold so poorly. :(
I blame the Civil War.
And lets be honest, the first one was just Epic in scale. This one? No, not really. Not even close.
MUA 3? Sheesh, I'm still waiting for 2 on pc.
It is a shame, the x-men legends and mua1 are some of the best superhero games, especially with a big cast. You know, Arkham Asylum or X-men Origins Wolverine do the one character real well but the legends and alliance games nail a whole lot of characters.
civil war's fault? Highly doubt it. Poor sales are most likely due to a poor marketing campaign, the release date, and the mere fact that the game just simply didn't look good graphically.
Had this game been released in the spring instead of the fall, I'm sure it would have sold better. Publishers tend to not understand that just because you release a title in the fall doesn't mean it'll make better sales from the holidays. Especially with something as big as Modern Warfare 2 that released like a month later.
Civil War could be a factor, it could turn away readers who didn't like the comic, but that's just a fraction of the audience that's familiar with current comic books. However the other way that Civil War might have affected sales is just the general premise of hero vs hero. Perhaps gamers just would have preferred to fight super villains - but it could just as well be the opposite. It also affected part of the plot.
Probably a bigger factor was that the game didn't review as well. MUA1 scored a 8.3 at Gamespot compared to MUA2's 7.5 and I believe most other reviewers ranked the game similarly. That's a big difference and probably cost them a fair bit of sales. Bugs were a major complaint with the second game, and add to that the RPG elements were stripped down. Add the marketing, release time and graphics issues TheMarvell mentions and it all contributed to poorer sales.
Having played the game there's another thing that I think contributed to lesser sales: the fact that they didn't follow Civil War as closely. I know some people didn't like the comic, and I'm not saying they're wrong, but the game only half follows it and then creates a very lame nanite villain plot.
Anyway the game isn't terrible, I had a lot of fun playing through it. Worth picking up if you can find it cheap, which shouldn't be too hard now.
Quote from: TheMarvell on July 14, 2010, 11:33:30 PM
civil war's fault? Highly doubt it. Poor sales are most likely due to a poor marketing campaign, the release date, and the mere fact that the game just simply didn't look good graphically.
Not to mension that subtracting the PC sales from MUA2 which I'm sure was a huge chunk of the sales pie of MUA1s sales. I know they switched their development to another company which didn't favor PCs as a viable game system and rather push their console versions of the game and their DLCs which is far more profitable.
If there was any chance of a MUA3 for PC it was killed the moment sales dropped and they kept making mistakes on keeping the fans of the game happy or within the loop.
- CQ
I agree that Civil War was not too much of a detraction, personally I was thrilled to jump into that storyline but I enjoyed Civil War.
As said, the game was reported to be buggy and honestly I have still not played it since I'm not a console person. If it came out on PC I would have pre ordered.
2 reasons why I never picked it up...
-Not crazy about the Civil War storyline.
-Some of the absolute worst character designs for a superhero game I've seen to date.
MUA 1 was far superior. If a 3rd one is made...hopefully they'll head back in that direction.
If I remember correctly, the people involved with Activision were heading towards another XML game. I'm pretty sure that was posted on MUA2's blog at some point.
That would be cool with me. I miss Cyclops :cool:
Graphics alone blew this one for me. I never understand when you have source material with pre-existing, iconic costumes, why anyone would redesign the costumes. Maybe I'm shallow, but I want to play a Marvel game with characters that look like Marvel characters...not some screwball new take on them. I personally felt that MUA1 had most things right (multiple costumes, classic looks, RPG elements) and I was hoping MUA2 would add to the formula. Instead, they watered down most of the character tweaking and gave us a choice of two lack luster interpretations of what the characters look like. I might get this from the bargain bin, but of course, the death blow via poor sales has probably killed off MUA3.
Personally, I felt like they over-designed everything with 2. Like... I can understand putting in seams and details that we might not nescessarily see in the comics, but mua2 had additions that actually made less sense in a "realistic" setting. Wolverine, for instance, had gloves with so much padding they would impede his range of moverment, which is inexcusable for a character that relies on the speed of his attacks. Juggernaut's helmet was also just silly... they made a big deal about head movement, but how would that craziness help in any way?
BTW, I also missCyclops.
Wasn't Cyke available for the Wii version? Also I really disliked the NDS very.
Quote from: Tomato on July 16, 2010, 04:35:06 PM
Personally, I felt like they over-designed everything with 2. Like... I can understand putting in seams and details that we might not nescessarily see in the comics, but mua2 had additions that actually made less sense in a "realistic" setting. Wolverine, for instance, had gloves with so much padding they would impede his range of moverment, which is inexcusable for a character that relies on the speed of his attacks. Juggernaut's helmet was also just silly... they made a big deal about head movement, but how would that craziness help in any way?
BTW, I also missCyclops.
I think that they just had to much fun designing the costumes and got carried away. One idea fed another and then you had this design that looked cool (to them) and because of deadlines, it was to late to change them.
Has the success of the Avengers caused this game to raise up to full price again? I see that Amazon is charging $60 for this and on ebay it's about the same.
pre-owned it's $29.99 I don't think you can find it new
This thread makes me want to play that game again. Good thing I downloaded the DLC when it was available!