Spectacular Spider-man

[Previsionary]

Has anyone else heard of this cartoon that's coming to CW next year? I found some concept art and some wiki information which can be found here:

concept art

Wiki info

[Protomorph]

They've turned poor Gwen into Deb Whitman  :mellow:

[kkhohoho]

The top halfs of the bodies are fine, but MJ's and Spidey's legs are so wrong :ph34r:...

[crimsonquill]

Hey, guys... don't fret about the concept art in Prev's post because that isn't the artist of the show.. a guy by the name of Sean "Cheeks" Galloway got the art gig instead...

check out his DeviantART page here: http://cheeks-74.deviantart.com/gallery/

He has done lots of concept work for toons before including the unmade Thundercats reboot.

- CrimsonQuill

[UnkoMan]

That Sean fella's stuff reminds me of the new Legion cartoon... only way better looking.

[The Hitman]

Lacey Chabert as the voice of Gwen Stacy? ... Ok, I can see (or hear) that.

[Silver Shocker]

I actually really like that guy's style. Got kinda a Scottie Young style going on. Spidey looks great in my opinion, Gwen truly does look like Deb Whitman, and MJ's looking pretty fine. Pete looks wrong to me though.

Voice cast is interesting, though I admit I'm not familiar with most of them. James Arnold Taylor could work as Harry. Darren Norris as Jameson? That could TOTALLY work (incidently, if any of you ever heard his version of Mysterio from the N64/Playstation/PC game, he does this kinda deranged android voice. it's a real hoot). 

Janosz from Ghostbusters 2 as Dock Ock...well that would be differant. I didn't know he was the voice of Chronos in JLU, but he did a good job, but that voice wouldn't really work for Otto. I guess I'll wait and see.

[TheMarvell]

I saw the trailer for this series and I don't know if it will be my cup of tea. It certainly looks better than that awful Spider-Man Unlimited, but it doesn't look nearly as good as the Spider-Man 1994 Animated Series. This one just looks too...childish, which I guess is appropriate since it's on Kids WB. Still, I miss the days where cartoons like Spidey 94 (which STILL hasn't gotten an appropriate season set release on DVD) and the original Batman cartoon, both on Fox, could be enjoyed and appreciated by both kids and adults.

I never saw the MTV series, but I really didn't like the animation on that one (was it any good?). However, Greg Weisman is writing the story of this new Spidey cartoon, so it could actually be pretty good. He is the one responsible for creating Gargoyles, which was awesome.

[thanoson]

See, I thought Spidey '94 and X-men suffered from the same fate; they were both too rushed. One episode of either had way too much crammed into 30 minutes. In my opinion, the mtv Spidey was the best version I saw. It was kinda like their take on Ultimate Spidey.

[BentonGrey]

Ahh man, don't knock the '90's X-Men now, that cartoon was AMAZINGLY good for its time. ^_^

[thanoson]

I hated the X-men. I watched it because I was a rabid fanboy. Had to support, you know. The lines were corny, the animation was sub par and Wolverine never cut anything with his claws unless they were robotic or could regenerate. He never once cut Sabertooth. For a guy that was supposed to be the best at what he did, he sure got handled a lot. Unless he was the best at sucking. Which then, is a completely different take on his abilities. Hell, I even liked Eveloution better than the Old X-men. Designs were smoother and the animation didn't feel as rushed. IMO, Batman and Supes were the best things to come out of the 90's. Simple precise characters, that had good dialog and the action scenes you could follow. Voice actors were topnotched and both had a good grasp of whatever story they were telling.

Quote- "Energy beams, huh? Here's one from a pro!" X-men debut. Ouch.

[zuludelta]

Neat designs. My interest is definitely piqued.

I never saw the MTV series, but I really didn't like the animation on that one (was it any good?).

The animation was above-average for a made-for-TV 3D show, but Spidey never looked quite right to me. Always seemed too stiff from the shoulders up (seemed like his neck was always jutting out at an angle in that McFarlane pose mode).

Wolverine never cut anything with his claws unless they were robotic or could regenerate. He never once cut Sabertooth.

That always annoyed me on the show too, watching it as a kid. Of course we all realize that they can't really show a certain level of violence on what was a kids' cartoon in America, but I think better direction would have been able to suggest that he did use his claws effectively against enemies, without having to show inappropriately graphic content. 

[Uncle Yuan]

In my opinion, the mtv Spidey was the best version I saw. It was kinda like their take on Ultimate Spidey.

My understanding of the MTV series was that it took place in the movie universe just after Spider-man I.  I thought it was better than average, too, although the character designs did seem a little awkward.  And that EVERYONE had blue or green eyes (even the African Americans) really bugged me.

[thanoson]

Found some on youtube. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJbJl26lxz0

[Previsionary]

Well...those were cartoons of the 90s...and if you recall, there was a huge stir about violence back then. More so than there is now, so I think they did what they could do...at that time. And really...there wasnt much that wasnt cheesy in the early 90s. I don't recall evolution Wolverine faring much better, but my memory is becoming hazy about that series. :P

Spectacular Spidey doesnt really grab at my interest like the mtv or 94 toon did...but I'll give it a shot before I gain an opinion about it other than "neutral/content".

[thanoson]

Ahh, but Batman pulled it off great. The violence, that is. The fight scenes for TAS were way superior to X-men and you never saw anyone get punched in the face.

[TheMarvell]

I'm going to admit this: I'm a fanboy of the 94' Spider-Man cartoon. I will defend that to the bone, lol. So naturally, if I ever get into another Spidey cartoon, I'll be comparing it to that series, which might not be entirely fair. If you want to talk about censorship of the 90's, Spider-Man had it the worst. They weren't allowed to use guns, make ANY reference to death (they used "destroy" instead), no mention of blood or killing (Morbius drank "plasma", not blood) and the Fox censors even went so far to make sure Spider-Man didn't "accidentally land on any pigeons" when jumping on rooftops. It was absurd. However, that being said, despite the intense censorship, I thought this series did a spectacular job telling it's stories, developing its characters, and still managed to have adult themes in an otherwise "kid-friendly" Saturday morning cartoon show. Batman got away with a lot more because the creators used the time period it was set in as an excuse, and even though a lot more people enjoyed that series more, Spider-Man was my favorite.

X-Men I liked too, but I never got into it as much as I did Spider-Man. Part of the reason for that is because of Fox. They loved to air the episodes out of order, so while I'm trying to watch the Phoenix Saga from part 1, I'd end up seeing part 5 or something the next weekend, and be completely lost.

When all is said and done, I really just wish they'd release both of these cartoons on DVD in season sets. I really don't understand why they haven't yet. From what I understand, Disney owns the rights and are just being assholes.

[Spam]

I'm going to admit this: I'm a fanboy of the 94' Spider-Man cartoon. I will defend that to the bone, lol. So naturally, if I ever get into another Spidey cartoon, I'll be comparing it to that series, which might not be entirely fair. If you want to talk about censorship of the 90's, Spider-Man had it the worst. They weren't allowed to use guns, make ANY reference to death (they used "destroy" instead), no mention of blood or killing (Morbius drank "plasma", not blood) and the Fox censors even went so far to make sure Spider-Man didn't "accidentally land on any pigeons" when jumping on rooftops. It was absurd. However, that being said, despite the intense censorship, I thought this series did a spectacular job telling it's stories, developing its characters, and still managed to have adult themes in an otherwise "kid-friendly" Saturday morning cartoon show. Batman got away with a lot more because the creators used the time period it was set in as an excuse, and even though a lot more people enjoyed that series more, Spider-Man was my favorite.

X-Men I liked too, but I never got into it as much as I did Spider-Man. Part of the reason for that is because of Fox. They loved to air the episodes out of order, so while I'm trying to watch the Phoenix Saga from part 1, I'd end up seeing part 5 or something the next weekend, and be completely lost.

When all is said and done, I really just wish they'd release both of these cartoons on DVD in season sets. I really don't understand why they haven't yet. From what I understand, Disney owns the rights and are just being assholes.

Dude, I love the 90's cartoon of Spidey, too! Like, high five!

But... How in the world does Disney own the rights to the show? If they don't want somebody marching to their offices and demanding for a release on DVD, then they better get workin'... like, now. And they better make it uncut, and uncensored! Just raw, awesome Spider-Man.

[Flying_Infant]

Ahh, but Batman pulled it off great. The violence, that is. The fight scenes for TAS were way superior to X-men and you never saw anyone get punched in the face.

Didn't Joker get punched in the face a few times?

[thanoson]

I think towards the end he got popped a lot. It's all about the angles and that flash they put across the screen. Watched Clash again last night. There was a awesome fight scene.

[TheMarvell]

Dude, I love the 90's cartoon of Spidey, too! Like, high five!

But... How in the world does Disney own the rights to the show? If they don't want somebody marching to their offices and demanding for a release on DVD, then they better get workin'... like, now. And they better make it uncut, and uncensored! Just raw, awesome Spider-Man.

High five! :)

Disney owns the rights because when the cartoon was being produced, Marvel was going bankrupt. Therefore, they had to sell the rights of their current running shows, like Spider-Man and X-Men, to the highest bidder, in this case Disney. This is why these cartoons are occasionally aired on the Toon Disney channel. I know Disney has owned the rights to these cartoons for quite some time, but I'm not sure if they still do or not.

I've heard some things though, and I'm not sure how true they are. I've heard that it wasn't just Disney they sold the rights to, but multiple parties. What I mean is that it's possible a few seasons were sold to another company. But again, I'm not too sure. Also, it's been pointed out to me on the IMDB boards that Spider-Man (and possibly X-Men) no longer air on Toon Disney, possibly implying that they legally can't because they don't own the rights anymore. Again, most of this is speculation and rumor, but this has always remained fact: Disney, at least at one point and possibly still does, own the rights to the Marvel shows that aired in the 90's.

Why they won't release them on dvd is beyond me. And I'm not talking about those crappy "4 episode themed" discs that have come out (Like Spider-Man Vs. Doc Ock, Ultimate Villain Showdown, etc), I mean proper season sets, and yes, UNCENSORED. As if the show wasn't censored enough, after 9/11 Disney had to be retarded and censor anything and everything resembling an aircraft crashing (omg, a goblin glider smashing into a building? EDIT). So far Disney (under their affiliate Buena Vista) has released the complete series of the Fantastic Four cartoon on dvd, and two seasons of The Tick (not Marvel, but still a Fox show), as well as 5 of those stupid themed Spider-Man dvds, and one themed X-Men one. One of the reasons they haven't released these shows yet could be due to legal reasons. But really, I don't know what the real issue here is.

[Previsionary]

NECRO-BUMP!

This series will premiere on March 8th on Kids WB

[Courtnall6]

New Spider-Man cartoon
New X-Men cartoon
New Spider-Man cartoon
New X-Men cartoon
New Spider-Man cartoon
New X-Men cartoon
New Spider-Man cartoon
New X-Men cartoon
New Spider-Man cartoon

Jeez...how about something different for a change. <_< (is there a yawning emote on this board?)

[Previsionary]

New Spider-Man cartoon
New X-Men cartoon
New Spider-Man cartoon
New X-Men cartoon
New Spider-Man cartoon
New X-Men cartoon
New Spider-Man cartoon
New X-Men cartoon
New Spider-Man cartoon

Jeez...how about something different for a change. <_< (is there a yawning emote on this board?)

They totally did something different. The new fan4 cartoon that included tons of guest stars. So there!

...

Ok, it wasn't so new, but all their other cartoons didn't rock at much. I point you to the avengers cartoon. :P

[BWPS]

Sweet! New Spider-Man cartoon.

Can't wait for a new X-Men cartoon!

[GogglesPizanno]

Jeez...how about something different for a change.

They are... It's a DIFFERENT spider-man cartoon.  :huh:

Personally, I'm still waiting for an animated adaptation of American Flagg!

[Silver Shocker]

Dude, I love the 90's cartoon of Spidey, too! Like, high five!

I wanna get in on that. Loved the 90's Spidey growing up, and still do. I disagree about the rushed writing comment, I loved all the overlapping and long-running plots and subplots in that show. The sheer number of characters I was introduced to from it...Daredevil, Punisher, Morbius, Tombstone, Prowler....it was like my Marvel gateway show. Ed Asner is still my definitive J. Jonah Jameson. (total props to J.K. Simmons though).

That always annoyed me on the show too, watching it as a kid. Of course we all realize that they can't really show a certain level of violence on what was a kids' cartoon in America, but I think better direction would have been able to suggest that he did use his claws effectively against enemies, without having to show inappropriately graphic content. 

The 2003 Ninja Turtles cartoon did that a number of times, usually by doing a Samurai Jack-like approach--black background, "slicing" effect across the screen, then quick cut back to the action, where the guy who got cut falls over. Other times characters got stabbed or impaled just slightly offscreen. They didn't do it often but it worked a lot better than the way you guys decribed Wolverine's portrayal in the cartoon. 

Why they won't release them on dvd is beyond me.

Not to mention Gargoyles. If I'm not mistaken, fans are STILL waiting for pt 2 of season 2 (I know I am).

The lines were corny

There was one line I always loved though. Wolverine attacks a Hellfire Club waiter, steals a leg of turkey and a bottle of wine, then comments nonchalantly "Lousy year."

[crimsonquill]

Oh, heck with it.. *snip*

This was recently posted on Newsarama.com... For those of you that are interested...

Sony Pictures Television has released the first image from an episode of The Spectacular Spider-Man, which debuts in back-to-back episodes on Saturday, March 8 at 10:00 a.m. on Kids' WB! on The CW.

The descriptions of the two debut episodes read:

In "Survival of the Fittest" (10:00 a.m. ET/PT), summer is over for Peter Parker and school's ready to start -- both literally (it's his junior year of high school), and in the real world of crime-fighting -- as Spider-Man faces his first real challenge (The Enforcers) and his first real super-villain (Vulture). Peter Parker is voiced by actor/musician Josh Keaton, and Robert Englund ("A Nightmare on Elm Street") voices Vulture. Victor Cook directed the script, which was written by Greg Weisman.

In "Interactions" (10:30 a.m. ET/PT), Peter Parker and Spider-Man both try to make connections. Nerdy Pete attempts to tutor the popular Liz Allan, while Spidey reaches out to stop a new menace: Electro. Alanna Ubach ("Legally Blonde," "Waiting") and popular video game and voiceover specialist Crispin Freeman provide the voices of Liz Allan and Electro, respectively. Troy Adomitis directed the script by Kevin Hopps.

Greg Weisman is supervising producer of The Spectacular Spider-Man, and Victor Cook is producer/supervising director. The series is produced by Culver Entertainment, a Sony Pictures Television Company.

[TheMarvell]

Dude, I love the 90's cartoon of Spidey, too! Like, high five!

I wanna get in on that. Loved the 90's Spidey growing up, and still do. I disagree about the rushed writing comment, I loved all the overlapping and long-running plots and subplots in that show. The sheer number of characters I was introduced to from it...Daredevil, Punisher, Morbius, Tombstone, Prowler....it was like my Marvel gateway show. Ed Asner is still my definitive J. Jonah Jameson. (total props to J.K. Simmons though).


Not to mention Gargoyles. If I'm not mistaken, fans are STILL waiting for pt 2 of season 2 (I know I am).

Dude, I'm totally in the same boat as you. Spidey 90's was my gateway to almost every Marvel character too, and the overlapping plots is one of the many, many reasons why I freakin loved it.

and yes, Gargoyles Season 2 Volume 2 is still on indefinite hiatus. Season 1 sold enough copies for Disney to go ahead and make Season 2 Volume 1, but because they didn't advertise it at all it sold pretty poorly. The last I heard, according to Greg Weisman, in order for that volume to get made is if BOTH volumes sell enough copies. It's been several years now, so Disney is most likely never going to release it. Which REALLY sucks because I didn't really get into the show UNTIL I bought the dvds.

So Disney won't release the rest of Gargoyles, or the 1990's Spider-Man and X-Men cartoons. But yet they go ahead give the green light to the complete series of the Fantastic Four cartoon. That will NEVER make any sense to me, as the FF cartoon was significantly less popular than Spidey and X-men. Hell, I'm betting half the reason why the Spider-Man and X-Men movie franchises are so popular is due to an entire generation growing up watching those cartoons.

UGH! It's aggravating to think about because it makes no sense for Disney to do this. They have terrible dvd marketing.  :banghead:

[Tomato]

But yet they go ahead give the green light to the complete series of the Fantastic Four cartoon. That will NEVER make any sense to me, as the FF cartoon was significantly less popular than Spidey and X-men. Hell, I'm betting half the reason why the Spider-Man and X-Men movie franchises are so popular is due to an entire generation growing up watching those cartoons.

UGH! It's aggravating to think about because it makes no sense for Disney to do this. They have terrible dvd marketing.  :banghead:

If Disney does hold all the rights (which isn't 100%) I think that might actually be the reason. Since Spidey and X-men are so much more popular, they can show them on their otherwise boorish "Toon Disney" network (I don't get it anymore, but from what I saw of the lineup a year ago they had maybe three shows worth watching in lieu of decent tv) and boost their ratings, while FF will attract practically no one and thus is not worth wasting airtime on when they can put it out on DVD and be done with it.