The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes

[lugaru]

Really liked the final minisode. I consider myself an Antman fan but the way he stops Whirlwind still caught me off guard, even though they did this in She-Hulk a while back. Still it was a great moment.

[Talavar]

I finally watched these and enjoyed them quite a bit.  The character models are all fine, though I wish the animation itself was more fluid.

My only major complaint is that five episodes of the actual series are just going to be compilations of these mini-episodes.

[kkhohoho]

I finally watched these and enjoyed them quite a bit.  The character models are all fine, though I wish the animation itself was more fluid.

My only major complaint is that five episodes of the actual series are just going to be compilations of these mini-episodes.

They all air on the same date, and on a separate day from the airing time of the actual show; they won't take up dates of the actual show, of which there's 50+ episodes in production. So, what's your point?

[Talavar]

I finally watched these and enjoyed them quite a bit.  The character models are all fine, though I wish the animation itself was more fluid.

My only major complaint is that five episodes of the actual series are just going to be compilations of these mini-episodes.

They all air on the same date, and on a separate day from the airing time of the actual show; they won't take up dates of the actual show, of which there's 50+ episodes in production. So, what's your point?

My point, which seemed pretty clear, is that recycling material from one source to reuse as other episodes is lame.  I'll try to be less vague in the future.

[Previsionary]

Oi!

http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?aid=39198

Yet another, and probably the final, trailer for the cartoon, which premieres this Wednesday.

[Blkcasanova247]

Since I live in NYC I went to the ComicCon 2 weekends ago and they showed the first 2 episodes ( which was really the premier 2 parter). It was awesome! They really did a fantastic job with this show and if they keep it up like the premier this will be the greatest Marvel animated series ever...I kid you not!

[crimsonquill]

Don't forget folks... tonight is the premiere of the Avengers two-part pilot episode on Disney XD!

8:30 PM EST is when the episodes start - so get your TiVOs or whatever recording device you have if you can't watch it right away and I believe it repeats at least twice more before tomorrow morning.

- CQ

[captmorgan72]

Just watched it and thought it was pretty decent. Funny thing is I never heard of Gravitron. I had to look him up.

[thanoson]

This was good. That fight with Graviton looked really epic. And I kept expecting to see Spiderman swinging underneath Manhattan Island.

[Shogunn2517]

I'm of a few opinions.  The fight did look epic enough and I like how they came together to do it.  And it seem like Gravitron was an enemy worthy enough to fight.

My problem, and I think it will be an on-going problem, is the fact that the fight was TOO epic.  Not that that was a bad thing, but seriously, all of lower Manhattan was completely destroyed.  It was a crater.  Typically, I wouldn't say that's a bad thing, but even comics don't go that far on the destruction toll.  It's a little nick-nack, but I don't think that was THAT necessary.

Moreover, the person doing Iron Man's voice is starting to irritate me.  It's nice that he sounds like RDJ, but unlike RDJ this guy has only one tone and when it's amplified, it can come off as whiney.  Beyond that, that little speech he had at the end...  It was a bit too much.  Seemed too kid-friendly and preachy, a bit out of context and doesn't sound like something that would come from a character that has been portrayed even more self-absorbed than he was in the films.  I would have much rather it come from Ant-Man or it would have sounded appropriate from Thor, but Iron Man?  Specifically, THAT Iron Man?  It didn't sound right.  Needless to say, I think I'll enjoy Captain America's introduction to THIS group and his dynamic with THIS Iron Man.  I just hope it isn't too... kiddy.

I'm still hopeful though.  I really liked the pacing and did like the action I've seen from it.  I still don't think I want to see the Hulk too attached with this team.  I don't think that character fits for the Avengers(which is why he's really not with the team anyway).

Just my opinion and thoughts.

[captmorgan72]

I know what you mean about the "whiny" voice. That bothered me too. About this becoming to kiddy, you have to remember it's not a m-rated animated movie. It's on a network that caters to children. I mean, you can't expect mature themed stories and then go to a commercial advertising toys or whatnot. I would rather this show be more mature but hey, Disney holds the reigns now.

[Previsionary]

Let's be honest, the premiere was more violent than anyone expected a "disney show" to be, and it probably outdid the violence in all of season 1 of "JL." It's on Disney XD, which I think is important to point out, and that channel, like Nicktoons, is geared towards preteens and lower tiered (numerically) teenagers. They have a much wider boundary than they would if this show was on the regular Disney channel. Disney XD already has already proved their willing to do dark, more mature storylines with some of their other shows, and the Avengers is in the hands of Chris Yost. If you don't know his work from comics or don't remember his influence in X-men Evo and Wolverine & The X-men, then you're already missing out. Point being, I wouldn't expect this show to go anywhere near "too kiddy" (That's what season 2 of Superhero Squad is for.), but I do expect it to be generally lighter than a CN cartoon and a lot more accessible.

And did we forget that Disney aired Planet Hulk this week? I didn't expect that to happen, so maybe they're a lot more lapsed on the digital channel than I originally gave them credit for.

[herodad1]

i liked it. speaking of wolverine and the x-men. bought the season 1 set. good stuff. will there be a season 2?

[Previsionary]

No. It was canceled awhile ago.

[crimsonquill]

i liked it. speaking of wolverine and the x-men. bought the season 1 set. good stuff. will there be a season 2?

Unfortunately there will not be any more seasons.. Spectacular Spider-Man and Wolverine And The X-Men both were canceled because Sony & 20th Century Fox released their rights for their animated series once Disney purchased Marvel. If I remember it was a matter of financing the budgets for their next seasons and both companies couldn't afford it... but figured that since Disney had plans for other Marvel toons and Avengers already in production it wouldn't be too long a wait for Marvel fans.

Of course with Avengers being quite a success based off the ratings for the premiere and Ultimate Spider-Man gaining more hype with popular oncoming writers and artistic directors coming on board each announcement there will be a lot more to come. Plus for those following the hints with Logan showing up in Captain America's origin and Nick Fury name dropping the MRD to imprison Whirlwind I'm thinking that there is plans for Wolverine And The X-Men to be retooled and renamed with a new production team in the near future.

- CQ

[Podmark]

The first part of the premiere aired tonight in Canada. It was pretty good. Jeffrey Combs as the Leader is a highlight.
Also I've seen all the micro episodes now. Those were a great idea.

[Spe-Dog]

I'm looking forward to watching the program get going.  I just watched the marathon this last weekend for the intros for all the characters and their cartoon backgrounds.  I have to say that if you watch the mini-sodes and the premiere all together it just looks downright bleak.  Kind of a bit depressing for a Disney 'toon.  The odds are really stacked against The Avengers in this series.  I do hope that Fury and SHIELD open up a bit; the evil government shadow group angle is just about played out.

[Ajax]

Is it me or does it feel like every guy save for Thor is gunning for Wasp? Even Hulk which would probably be the funniest pairing ever.

On the subject of female characters did anyone else notice that if it wasn't for Jane, every female character with a speaking roll would have been a secretary/assistant. Wasp is the assistant/manager to Antman she handles his finances, schedule, and what not while he does his science. Then you have Pepper Pots which is a no brainer and Maria Hall comes off more as Fury's assistant than a high ranking officer. I know that might be nitpicky but I just found it a bit amusing.

Anywho, I dislike the voice actor for Tony Stark he is too nasally and it feels like a watered down Robert Downey Jr. Just as Pepper feels like a watered down Paltrow. That is my only real complaint of the show thus far oh and the very cheesy ending of episode 2. "We can be team that avenges the wrongs of the worlds." "we're avengers". 

I like this shows take on the relationship between the Hulk and Bruce Banner. It feels less like tortured soul fighting demons within and more like a relationship between two individuals sharing a body. Where Bruce is trying to mold the Hulk into something good.

[Talavar]

The moment where the team gets named was, is, and ever shall be, lame.  Also, the theme song sucks out loud.

Aside from that, this is really shaping up to be a good show.

[Shogunn2517]

Some Assembly Required... Thoughts?

Spoiler

I liked it.  There were a moment or two I didn't like, that seemed too fluffy, but overall it is still well paced.  The storyline is developing and developing as I would hoped.  We saw the Hulk becoming more distant and ultimately leave the group, which is exactly what I thought would happen.  I'm not sure if this is permenant or just a plot device(it seems kind of pointless to introduce such a character just to drop him), but at least he seems to be keeping the group at arm's length.  On the periphery we have Captain America, Black Panther and Hawkeye who will likely join the group in the next few episodes.  Pym will be finished working on Ultron, who will rebel and fight the team.  The Avengers storyline is shaping up well.

Also got to mention even more hints of a connection to an overall universe with Iron Man mentioning he's working with Reed Richards on a Negative Zone prison.

And it was also cool to see an Hulk vs Thor reminescent of my fights in the Rumble Room.

[udasu]

They have the writers from the comics (Yost, etc) working to bring the Avengers (finally) into the visual mythology. For those of us that grew up with the mag, it's nice to see the Avengers come to life, and not just in the FF Rumble Room

[Talavar]

I just saw Some Assembly Required.  It was a solid episode, with nice ongoing plot building and characterization of the main group.  The Enchantress and Executioner are the weak point, as they're given very little space for motivation or characterization, aside from wanting to mess with Thor.

[kkhohoho]

I just saw Some Assembly Required.  It was a solid episode, with nice ongoing plot building and characterization of the main group.  The Enchantress and Executioner are the weak point, as they're given very little space for motivation or characterization, aside from wanting to mess with Thor.

Did you watch the minisodes?

[herodad1]

i saw the last 10 minutes of that episode. liked it. then saw the whole cap revived episode. it was good too. liked watching him throw everyone around. they gave him skills instead of just punching and shield action.

[Talavar]

I really loved watching Cap in action in this episode - they've really nailed his combat style  in a way that wasn't obvious during the minisodes.

[Shogunn2517]

My thoughts on Living Legend?

I agree with you guys.  They made Captain America more than just a brawler with a shield.  I compare it to the use of the Super Soldier Serum in The Incredible Hulk.  They actually SHOWED you why CA deserves to be in a (rumble) room full of superheroes and be able to hold his own.  It's pretty interesting what they did with Zemo as well.(am I understanding this right; they are meshing two Zemo's together?)  The timeline's a little wonky.  Howard Stark took a pic with CA in the 40s and this is supposed to be present day, which means Tony Stark 50-60 years old at his youngest.  I'm still interested to see what they do with these peripherary characters like Black Panther, Hawkeye, Black Widow and apparently the Hulk.  Do they include them ALL on the team and only use some in certain episodes like The Justice League (Unliminted) or do these characters have a story arch or two and that's all we'll see of them?  I'm still having some trouble catching up with the Hydra Leadership(Red Skull/Baron Zemo/Baron Strucker).  Again, I'm still happy with the way this is developing though.  I can't wait to see Ultron's intro, Kang.  I'm certain they'll introduce Kree/Skrull characters.

[cripp12]

Anyone have any thoughts on what the ETA is for Wonderman.

[crimsonquill]

Anyone have any thoughts on what the ETA is for Wonderman.

As a matter of fact Simon Williams appears in the very next episode.. and apparently they tweak with several of his comic incarnations so they can work together with his new origin.

Here is the teaser for it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBoFZjD29cA

- CQ

[cripp12]

nice!

[Talavar]

My thoughts on Living Legend?

I agree with you guys.  They made Captain America more than just a brawler with a shield.  I compare it to the use of the Super Soldier Serum in The Incredible Hulk.  They actually SHOWED you why CA deserves to be in a (rumble) room full of superheroes and be able to hold his own.  It's pretty interesting what they did with Zemo as well.(am I understanding this right; they are meshing two Zemo's together?)  The timeline's a little wonky.  Howard Stark took a pic with CA in the 40s and this is supposed to be present day, which means Tony Stark 50-60 years old at his youngest.  I'm still interested to see what they do with these peripherary characters like Black Panther, Hawkeye, Black Widow and apparently the Hulk.  Do they include them ALL on the team and only use some in certain episodes like The Justice League (Unliminted) or do these characters have a story arch or two and that's all we'll see of them?  I'm still having some trouble catching up with the Hydra Leadership(Red Skull/Baron Zemo/Baron Strucker).  Again, I'm still happy with the way this is developing though.  I can't wait to see Ultron's intro, Kang.  I'm certain they'll introduce Kree/Skrull characters.

I think they're meshing the two Zemo's together, and so far at least, the Red Skull is only in the past, while Zemo and Strucker vie for control of Hydra in the present.

Tony doesn't have to be quite that old.  Let's say Howard Stark was 30 in 1940 (for ease of math), if he had children late in life, Tony could have been born in the late 60s or 70s, putting him in his early forties or his thirties in the present day.