The DC Thread

[Silver Shocker]

That plot line was handled in the Final Crisis: Revelations mini by Greg Rucka and Philip Tan. If they showed some of that in the main Final Crisis book, it was probably to promote the tie-in (i.e. if you want to see what happens with this, buy this book!)

[Discoking090]

The problem with lots of Kryptonians is that they're so very, very powerful.  When there's just Superman, that power is balanced by his uniqueness.  I mean, is there a problem in the DC universe that the city population of Kandor, all with Superman's powers couldn't fix?  100 000 Kryptonians make the dangers of a few thousand Yellow Lanterns, Red Lanterns, Black Lanterns, etc. look like chumps - they could beat them in time for dinner, then go conquer the universe tomorrow.  The only threat to a group of kryptonians is another group of kryptonians, that or writers contrive increasingly ridiculous ways to have their weaknesses commonly available.

Either way, it ends up watering down Superman.  Kryptonians are everywhere, reducing him to being special for being a good guy - well, what's so special about that for a superhero?  Most of them are pretty good people.  Or you have everything threatening somehow having a chunk of kryptonite, which makes Superman seem to be useless.

I don't think I would use the term useless as you are overlooking the red sun facotr and the vulnerability to magic. I mean howmany magic people are their not ot mention that the daxamites are still around and have all the same powers as Superman already but are weak against lead. so there already were millions of supermen. P.S. I think superman became useless when the KC superman entered the picture

[Zippo]

Alright, so, this has been bugging the heck out of me.

Spoiler

Why the heck does Ganthet want Hal to be the leader of the blue lanterns? The reason seems to be solely because Hal is the main character of his own book. Hal won't even give hope the time of day, and yet Ganthet still wants him to be the centerpiece of the blues. I think we can all think of a candidate who would be perfect for the role: Kyle.
I mean, Ganthet chose Kyle himself to be the "torchbearer" the guy who kept hope alive for the GLC. Doesn't he seem like the absolute best candidate to be the Green lantern figurehead of the Blue lanterns?

But no... Hal comes back and Kyle gets stripped of his Ion powers and reduced to painting murals on Oa, while Hal is seemingly wanted simultaneously by every corps to join them.

*grumble grumble*

[The Hitman]

I think I may have an answer...

Spoiler

Blue Lantern rings won't work without a Green Lantern around. Maybe Ganthet know that Hal has enough willpower to allow all of the Blues function throughout the galaxy? It's a weak answer, I'll admit, but may turn out to be true.

And I wouldn't be suprised if Kyle'll end up playing on someone else's team by the end of Blackest Night.

*joins in the grumbling*

[thanoson]

"grumble grumble grumble"
Umm... I have nothing to grumble about, but it looked cool. So there you go.

[daglob]

Hey, I know who ought to be the head of the Blue Lanterns: Superman.

[marhawkman]

Hehe... just so Livewire has MORE reason to call him a "big blue boyscout"...

[AfghanAnt]

Somebody is back. Do not click this unless you want to be spoiled.

Spoiler

[Previsionary]

I read that on your blog, AA. Personally, I is happy. That character just happens to be one of my DC faves.

[AfghanAnt]

I read that on your blog, AA. Personally, I is happy. That character just happens to be one of my DC faves.

Yeah me too. I was really excited that is happened and it is weird how I've become such a huge Johns and Pre-LOS fan.

[Torch]

Somebody is back. Do not click this unless you want to be spoiled.

Why would DC bring back Bucky?  A Marvel character??  It doesn't make any sense!   

[Podmark]

YAY!!!
Now I need details. I won't be getting that series til it's over.

[Tomato]

Wow, resurrecting two cool characters who never should have died in a single miniseries. Sweet!

Spoiler

I have to say though, I hope they explain Superboy's return better. I realize that's probably coming in the next issue, but my understanding is that Brainiac re-cloned him from Luthor and Superman... which doesn't explain how he has his former personality, age, and presumably his memories.

[AfghanAnt]

Wow, resurrecting two cool characters who never should have died in a single miniseries. Sweet!

Spoiler

I have to say though, I hope they explain Superboy's return better. I realize that's probably coming in the next issue, but my understanding is that Brainiac re-cloned him from Luthor and Superman... which doesn't explain how he has his former personality, age, and presumably his memories.

Spoiler

His body was taken to the Kryptonian birthing matrix that Superman was put in after his fight with Doomsday, instead of months like Superman, it took a thousand years. He need Lex's hair because the matrix only knew how to fix Superman not Lex.

[The_Baroness]

Wow, resurrecting two cool characters who never should have died in a single miniseries. Sweet!

Spoiler

I have to say though, I hope they explain Superboy's return better. I realize that's probably coming in the next issue, but my understanding is that Brainiac re-cloned him from Luthor and Superman... which doesn't explain how he has his former personality, age, and presumably his memories.

Spoiler

His body was taken to the Kryptonian birthing matrix that Superman was put in after his fight with Doomsday, instead of months like Superman, it took a thousand years. He need Lex's hair because the matrix only knew how to fix Superman not Lex.

..


you know... that actually makes sense...

And very happy to have him back...

[Tomato]

Wow, resurrecting two cool characters who never should have died in a single miniseries. Sweet!

Spoiler

I have to say though, I hope they explain Superboy's return better. I realize that's probably coming in the next issue, but my understanding is that Brainiac re-cloned him from Luthor and Superman... which doesn't explain how he has his former personality, age, and presumably his memories.

Spoiler

His body was taken to the Kryptonian birthing matrix that Superman was put in after his fight with Doomsday, instead of months like Superman, it took a thousand years. He need Lex's hair because the matrix only knew how to fix Superman not Lex.

Spoiler

Ok, that I'm cool with. I fleetingly got the impression he'd been healing for awhile from an earlier statement, but at the time that didn't make sense because of the emphasis on Luthor's hair.

[Xenolith]

I really like the Time Trapper reveal, too. 

[Podmark]

I may have to consider getting Adventure Comics:
http://comics.ign.com/articles/978/978610p1.html

[Podmark]

This thread was buried.

Read Adventure Comics #1 yesterday. I really liked it. Not a lot happened but it had this real homecoming feeling to it that felt like the right way to start off Superboy's return. Also really liked the art and it fit the tone really well. The backup was ok, my opinion of it kinda changed with every page, and the art is by Clay Henry who I've always liked. Great start for me.

Also read Blackest Night 2. It was good but not much really happened, it's still setting up the threat and I wish some more actual story was in it.

Also big Blackest Night spoiler here.

[GhostMachine]

Which version of the Legion of Super-Heroes are they using in Adventure Comics? (I hope its the version that's pretty much the original, pre-Crisis LSH)

[Podmark]

Which version of the Legion of Super-Heroes are they using in Adventure Comics? (I hope its the version that's pretty much the original, pre-Crisis LSH)

uhhh....If you read Legion of 3 Worlds it's the main one from that series. I *think* that's the original Legion but I'm not even remotely a Legion expert. All 3 Legions are supposed to appear down the line.

[AfghanAnt]

It's the original Legion.

Also...

Spoiler

Why is Superboy getting his own Lex Luthor ala Simon Valentine? If he gets a Lana Lang and Cassie becomes his "Wonderwoman" I will be very upset with Mr Johns.

[Mystik]

is anybody else  ticked that

Spoiler

cass is no longer batgirl...stephanie brown is the new batgirl, I like spoiler but I feel like she's not batgirl material.  I mean seriously cassandra could whoop all the batgirls (in their prime ) at the same time .

if its not barbara or cassandra its not batgirl

[GhostMachine]

is anybody else  ticked that

Spoiler

cass is no longer batgirl...stephanie brown is the new batgirl, I like spoiler but I feel like she's not batgirl material.  I mean seriously cassandra could whoop all the batgirls (in their prime ) at the same time .

if its not barbara or cassandra its not batgirl

Well, at least its not

Spoiler

Misfit!

[marhawkman]

Aw... but Misfit is awesome....

[The Hitman]

I still think it should have been Rose Wilson.

[marhawkman]

hehe... she's on my list of people who have better things to do.

[Podmark]

is anybody else  ticked that

Spoiler

cass is no longer batgirl...stephanie brown is the new batgirl, I like spoiler but I feel like she's not batgirl material.  I mean seriously cassandra could whoop all the batgirls (in their prime ) at the same time .

if its not barbara or cassandra its not batgirl

Spoiler

I am, Pod love Cass. And her explanation for quitting just didn't work with past stories. Of course DC has screwed her up badly the last couple years.

But I'm happy it's Spoiler. She's the only person I'd want otherwise. Misfit would have annoyed me, and Barbara would have ticked me off.

[GhostMachine]

Going off Podmark's post....

Spoiler

DC has pretty much said that they don't want to make Barbara Batgirl again because she's become an inspiration to handicapped fans. However, I don't see why they couldn't make her Batgirl AND Oracle, by doing something similar to that episode of the Birds of Prey tv series, where she used an exoskeletal system underneath the costume that let her walk temporarily. All they have to do is give it some drawback (exhausting to use, has to be recharged after a period of time, etc) so she can't be Batgirl all the time.

However, I think Spoiler is a good choice to be the new Batgirl. And I don't like Cassandra Cain as Batgirl, so I'm glad she's being replaced. Wonder what kind of gimmick they'll give her now?

Oh, and I like Misfit. I just don't think she'd make a good Batgirl.

[marhawkman]

Yeah, Misfit is more of a teen sidekick character.

Cain? Hehe... Isn't she the dark and shadowy leader of the League of Assassins or something? That would kinda get in the way of being Batgirl...