MUA 2

[captmorgan72]

This is from the MUA 2 forums. One of the employees of VV that calls himself News Lad on the forum had this to say:

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    MidnightSun - 11 September 2009 10:54 AM

    I?m sorry News Lad as you have been really great about answering what questions you could as soon as you could but in what way is the slap in the face that is the secret character not ?shock value?? Or the fact that the ?iconic? costumes these characters have worn are for the most part left out for ?edgy? costumes that the characters are hardly recognizable in? I have to agree that I?m disappointed as well. It seems almost as if throwing curve jimmies at us was more important in the decision making than fan expectations.

News Lad:
The secret final character was never intended to be revealed. You?ll notice we?ve done zero marketing of that character?no build up, no teases, no ads.  We?ve said the bare minimum on them, which is ?there is a hidden secret character who we won?t reveal, ever.? We couldn?t do anything more than that without spoiling a bunch of plot stuff. The ideal scenario would be for people to have played through and unlock them in the proper place in the story, so they?d get them with full context.  The best way to see why we included that character is to play through the game.  However, after launch I?ll give detailed reasons (on the Spoilers forum ONLY) as to why they?re included.  It will be in a heavily-disclaimered thread, because to fully explain it I basically need to unravel the entire game?s plot and go over it, point by point.  For the fans that want that, I?m happy to do it, but for most people playing the game will be a superior experience.

As for alt costumes, I can talk on them specifically later, but we wanted to include a mix of classic costumes and Civil War / Secret War costumes.

To make one point in particular:

It seems almost as if throwing curve jimmies at us was more important in the decision making than fan expectations.

This is completely and 100% NOT THE REASON we included that character.
Also, I?m not upset at all that people don?t like the roster (frankly, if I heard about that character without playing through the game first, I?d want to know what was up), but I am really upset that people think this is why we have them in the game.  I wish the game was out today so I had clearance to explain why this isn?t the case, but I?m not allowed to until the 16th.

[steamteck]

It wouldn't be worth the development time spent on a PC version.

You see the problem is other people have the incredible unluck to like the platform I do. Once I played  and liked the first one the chances of it coming out on PC  became nil. I admit it its all my fault.

Seriously I find it typical that all the folks I know young and old buck the larger trend. most of the adults and  teens and kids I know prefer PC gaming  even if they have the other platforms. Maybe its a regional northern Va thing.

[murs47]

Guyver-Fury is a weird choice but maybe he brings a completely different play style which is always a good thing in a 60 dollar video game. Here's to hoping.

[AfghanAnt]

AfghanAnt, have you played this game already? No? Then how do you know that it doesn't make sense? Why do you think I am making excuses for them? I haven't played this game yet, I don't know how the story plays out. Finding out who the secret character is before ever playing the game is naturally going to seem strange. It doesn't make sense because you haven't experienced the story yet. Maybe even after the story is told, it will still stink but at least let's give them the benefit of the doubt. These people have poured their souls into this project for years. Your an artist (a damn fine one) so you can appreciate their level of commitment and pride in their creation.

Let me copy and paste what I said for you to read again: Even if it wasn't leaked it would be incredibly disappointing because of his position in MUA and the completely bastardized the characters concept.

I know it doesn't make sense that Nick Fury is the robotic super villain of the game and that's all I was referring too. I didn't call it a bad game because I haven't played it but I do know Evil Robo Nick Fury doesn't make sense.

[captmorgan72]

Ok, AfghanAnt, I can see trying to reason with you is not going to work. So I will just copy and paste what I said for you to read again:
It doesn't make sense because you haven't experienced the story yet.

[thalaw2]

oh boys!  It's just a game.  What may not be coming to the PC!!!!!  I can't help thinking that the only reason for this is profits from DLC.  I don't want to invest in a next-gen system because I think it's a waste of money as I see that the future of gaming will change dramatically after Intel's new chips take hold...heck even the operating system as we know it may be on it's way o-u-t.

[murs47]

he's the bad guy in the game?

[Ares_God_of_War]

no idea. Maybe it's really the bastardization of a Fury LMD and a Doombot, who knows. One thing that has me bothered is I preordered this for Juggernaut and I got the thing from Gamestop to be a VIP member of the site but I still have not gotten any email back from the MUA2 site to log in and its been like 2 weeks.

[Torch]

I just want to say this game is gonna be HOT!  I can't wait for Tuesday! 

[captmorgan72]

You know Torch, I think you and I are the only ones here who are looking forward to this game. It's almost here!!!

[Ares_God_of_War]

if anyone has pre-ordered have they got their Juggernaut code yet? I was told it would be by email 2 days before the release date.

[herodad1]

give it a try, then say what you think about the game.not trying to provoke an arguement but better to know what your talking about before you talk.same thing with someone saying a movies bad but when you see it you liked it and couldnt understand why they didnt.i like the classic looks in characters too but even with costume changes they are still the same characters.  peace!

[captmorgan72]

Watched some videos of some more gameplay on YouTube. Some people have already received and finished this game. Guess they have friends in the right places. This link http://www.herohq.com/forums/viewthread/13870/ is from the MUA 2 spoiler forum. I just watched the game play, didn't want to see the cut scenes until I play the game. Did see a awesome fusion between Iceman and Wolverine

Spoiler

Iceman shoots an ice beam at Wolvie and coats him with ice and Wolvie breaks free sending shards of ice in a 360 degree spread. Another was Gambit and Storm, Storm creates a tornado and Gambit throws kinetic charged cards into it. The tornado does it's tornado thing with exploding cards adding to the damage.

It's looking very very cool. Massive upgrade from the first.

[murs47]

i've been watching some of these videos and i think i've made up my mind...i think im going to get it 'cause it looks really fun

[daerdevil]

...i like the classic looks in characters too but even with costume changes they are still the same characters.  peace!

Point well taken.  I'm turning into one of those flaky fence sitters.  I just played some Wolverine: Origins (a game I passed on at release) and am getting fired up for more Marvel action.  After seeing the MUA2 trailer on the big screen, it does look like it might be a fun romp.  I'm just so disappointed by the artistic interpretation of the characters (especially after seeing how nice the "realistic" versions of the Wolverine's costumes came out in the Origins game) that it's been hard to get into MUA2.  That and the step backwards in the unlockables department really annoy me.  In the end, though, here's a game that will probably be a lot of fun and if I don't pre-order I deny myself the use of the Juggernaut. 

[detourne_me]

I've been playing the Nintendo DS version, and it's a lot like playing the first x-men legends gameplay and grapics wise,  i can only imagine ow much better the game will be on a next gen system.
The good thing about the ds version... i don't actually see the redesigns,  they all look like classic outfits to me.

[Courtnall6]

My interest in this game is gone. The only way I'll play it now is if I see it the 20$ bargain bin and they have released a classic costume DLC.

Very disappointed with how this game turned out...hopefully MUA 3 will be better...but I doubt it.

Besides...the 15th is NHL 10 day for me anyway!

[AfghanAnt]

My interest in this game is gone. The only way I'll play it now is if I see it the 20$ bargain bin and they have released a classic costume DLC.

Very disappointed with how this game turned out...hopefully MUA 3 will be better...but I doubt it.

I was never very excited about the game but after the reveal and a few other details on the game I think I'm going to wait for the price drop.

[Ares_God_of_War]

I still have my preorder for the game but if they do not send me the juggernaut code I will probably cancel it and wait for the price drop

[captmorgan72]

Just received my Juggernaut code  Now after work tomorrow it's MUA 2 time! 

[electro]

It's a Superhero game & it has Electro so i'm in but, I have to admit i dispise not having the classic costumes at launch - Good thing most of the characters i want to play with like Cage & Dare Devil costumes aren't that bad - Since expectations are so low it can only go up from here - If the game sucks i'll trade it in for store credit in a few weeks but, i'm sure theres a little fun to be had in this game - Fingers crossed

[Talavar]

Since I managed to play games in monochrome, I think I can overlook some questionable costume design and I'll probably be picking this up tomorrow.  Hope it's good!

[thalaw2]

I don't get the Juggs code thing.    Does everyone need a separate code to unlock him?  Is he a DLC case or is it something existing on the DVD?  

[Ares_God_of_War]

I got the code today and yes everyone needs a seperate code. You take the code and enter it in at the X-Box live marketplace on your 360 if thats what you are using. not sure on the PS3. Its what they had me do for SF4 for the collectors costumes

[AfghanAnt]

You can also purchase him on Xbox Live if you dont have the code.

[daerdevil]

You can also purchase him on Xbox Live if you dont have the code.

Is that true?  I read about how there's a free Juggs DLC available to make multiplayer games compatible between versions w/ and w/o him, but I thought the final word was "exclusive" only to Gamestop pre-orders.  If you can just shell out some M$ points, than I'll definitely be relieved that I'm waiting this one out.

In other MUA2 current events, anyone playing it yet?  I'd love to hear some reviews and opinions on the game.  Plus, I need to know if they really screwed us with that whole no stats carrying over to your next play through (except for legendary mode).  Kind of kills the replay value IMHO.

[AfghanAnt]

You can also purchase him on Xbox Live if you dont have the code.

Is that true?  I read about how there's a free Juggs DLC available to make multiplayer games compatible between versions w/ and w/o him, but I thought the final word was "exclusive" only to Gamestop pre-orders.  If you can just shell out some M$ points, than I'll definitely be relieved that I'm waiting this one out.

In other MUA2 current events, anyone playing it yet?  I'd love to hear some reviews and opinions on the game.  Plus, I need to know if they really screwed us with that whole no stats carrying over to your next play through (except for legendary mode).  Kind of kills the replay value IMHO.

That was my understanding.

[laughing paradox]

I got it and I love it. I only started in a little, but I intend to play later tonight with some friends.. I'll give a better review after that.

Storm is awesome in the game. She really impressed me.

[electro]

Well if you've played the other Legends or Alliance games then you know what to expect from the camera & gameplay - Only the Fusion powers add a little different flavor - Some are cool some are lame - The graphics are about the same as last alliance or maybe a tad worse (texture wise) - Story is cool so far with Nick Fury stealing the show early on which is suprising because i thought he would be the most boring character - The Electro battle was cool & even more fun on hard mode , My Spidey couldn't do anything to him which was awesome & had to rely on my side chars to blast him - I'll do a play threw or 2 of the game but, if your on the fence about getting this I would just hold off - Spend money on better games like Batman (AA), Champions, CoX, Wolverine & if you need more then come to MUA2 - If they add a Vs mode later on then that would certainly boost my opinion

[captmorgan72]

I picked up my copy for $9 after trading in Web of Shadows and Batman Arkham Asylum. Gamestop had a promotion going giving me huge trade-in values for both games applied to MUA 2. I was stunned that's all I had to pay. The game of course is loads of fun and I am loving it. Fantastic graphics and many cool changes. It kinda reminds me of the first one on steroids. The camera is much more cinematic now, zooming out and in when appropriate. I  just finished the Secret War mission (I think) and for my Bravo team I picked Fantastic Four. Thing looks fabulous and kicks major butt. They all look stellar. I loaded up Juggernaut to see what he looks like and wow. He's freaking huge, Hulk huge. You can see his veins rippling under his armor, very bad a**. Anyway, going to play this one nice and slow, take in everything. Oh, almost forgot to mention Thor.

Spoiler

I haven't unlocked him yet, but I saw him at Stark tower. Spoke with him and he sounds much better this time. I asked him about his people and he starts to talk about Doom's punishment at the hands of Odin for what he did. Great reference to the story in the first game.