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Title: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 03, 2023, 11:47:31 PM
While going though the list I'm working on, I came across some more skins that are missing their meshes. Any help would be appreciated - and more might arrive as I work on my files.

1) Fusion Meshes - Arrowette, Deadshot, Forge and Jesse Quick

2) Freebooter by Podmark needs Ultimate_MinuteMan_DS_NoBeltAccessoriesPS

3) Pyslocke Armor By ArchAngel33 needs SW_no_tiara

4) Power Girl Toxic J needs Powergirl_t

5) I think I'm missing the Hawk and Dove meshes from Gildemon, and I think he has 2 versions of each.

6) Missing Zulu Delta's der raubtier soldat (Golden Age Justice Corps)

7) Silver Age Justice Corps - Col Sergeyev and Komet




There's bunches more but these will do for now.

Thanks all!
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 04, 2023, 01:13:35 PM
Cranlox - thanks for the files!

Cranlox sent me a bunch of files by PM. I haven't gone through them yet so I'll leave the list above intact for now.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: cranlox on January 05, 2023, 08:33:41 AM

A while ago I bought these models, I doubt they will work for you.

(https://i.imgur.com/265mqWF.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZA5vkeF.png)

They are stl files for part printing.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 05, 2023, 11:09:09 AM
Thanks Cranlox.

I had looked at some stl files for those and others. The main problem I have is not rigging them for the game, but that they're not set up for skinning. Every time I tied to set them up by unwrapping the uv in nifskope, Blender or Milkshape, it didn't work right and I had to do simple colors for each section of a multi-part mesh.

Maybe SA or someone else has some more knowledge in that area.

At present, I'm not up to working on complicated things like that, but they'll be put aside for sometime in the future with some of the other stl I linked to above.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 05, 2023, 03:30:52 PM
When I get to it, this might be my choice for a Thundertank if I can get it to work;

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/thundertank-fa63722fa22847298dd8e46cc260ada6 (https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/thundertank-fa63722fa22847298dd8e46cc260ada6)

This one is free and fairly low poly. Removing the rocky base and some duplicate polys would bring the poly count down even more.

sketchfab files are usually use some combination of skins and colored material so it shouldn't be as hard to work with. I also like the open cockpit to place character meshes in. Panthro at the wheel of course, and maybe different versions with Lion-o, Tigra and Cheetara next to him.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 07, 2023, 01:09:43 PM
Updated the 1st entry on the thread

Removed a couple from the requests thanks to Tomato. Added a new one for Captain Cold by AR

Cranlox - downloaded your links. Thanks! Some I had, some I didn't, so its all good. They weren't the ones from the list above though.

Also, While searching the site, I found a still active mediafire link to about 30 GI Joes skins. These are older skins and I'm putting them with their meshes and adding them to my list. The question is, Back in 2017, Style preview tons of great looking GI Joe meshes and skins. Were these ever released?

Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: WyldFyre on January 07, 2023, 01:27:18 PM
I sent you some off your list. Working on the hexes. I think Bloodshadow's skin was for Fusion's mesh, at least that's what the one I have said.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 07, 2023, 01:43:17 PM
Thanks Wyldfyre!

I had never seen a LE Terra, so maybe BS was confused. From his readme;

Skin name: Terra
Skin creator: Bloodshadow
Base skin used: Courtnall6
Mesh: Terra by Lord Ehmsidy

While you're here maybe you know. You have creator "styles" at the museum. Is this the same as "Style" ?
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 07, 2023, 03:32:34 PM
Updated the 1st post again, thanks to Wyldefyre.

Also, Style just happened to pop on this morning. He was nice enough to respond to a pm and confirm that the GI Joe meshes he had done were never released.

That's a shame, but as my wife likes to say "It is what it is"

You would think that with over 7000 meshes and skins already, it would be enough. But I guess I'm just greedy. As someone once said on the NWN boards way back, its like having an unlimited set of action figures to play with (An no matter how much you play with them, they never get broken!)

Could you imagine what a room (or rooms) full of shelves would look like with someone who actually made all of these with a 3d printer?

Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: cranlox on January 07, 2023, 04:06:13 PM

excellent comparison. It really is like a collection of virtual action figures is true. Having a room full of these would truly be a dream.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: WyldFyre on January 07, 2023, 09:21:21 PM
Unsure Random. Styles came from Electric Freedom in the skinning list. I don't think they are the same person, but I truly don't know. DJ was around back then maybe he can shed some light.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 08, 2023, 04:13:05 PM
I'm having a few pm's with Style at the moment. I keep forgetting to ask him

Updated the original post woth some new missing meshes
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Panther_Gunn on January 08, 2023, 06:08:16 PM
FLE mesh sent.

TM_hood_holster_gloves_boots is in the FXForce backup, in the HexMesh folder:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4g4ekoni8gxdl/FXForce
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 08, 2023, 06:09:21 PM
Hey Panther! Good seeing you on line and Happy new Year!

And thanks!
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Panther_Gunn on January 08, 2023, 06:25:00 PM
I'm also seeing two TY_MrSinister meshes in that FXForce folder, 1 & 2 (don't know if 1 is the original or not).  It's a big folder, lots of treasures.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 08, 2023, 06:33:48 PM
I know there's at least 2.

Its amazing - I downloaded everything I could shake a stick at back in the day, and there's still so much missing

I guess I needed a bigger stick.

I can rebuild my stick. Better. Faster. Stronger.

I just need 6 million dollars to do it.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: SickAlice on January 09, 2023, 06:58:48 PM
"Maybe" not a ton of help but seeing some other threads I compiled an easy index here. There is a lot, including your own stuff here and I know much of what had been in those Yahoo Groups had been backed up to another file host. Unfortunately in a few of these case you will have to dig deep.

http://www.freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=61165.msg834527#msg834527 (http://www.freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=61165.msg834527#msg834527)

On the subject above I'm not up to helping with those Thundercats models, sorry. Though whenever I get time I will put together both a tutorial on how exactly to texture/retexture models (I almost always used Milkshape and nothing else for this task) and one on polycount/face reduction (Blender, Meshmixer and Milkshape are all proper and easy to use for this task).
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 09, 2023, 10:44:12 PM
1st entry updated

SA -

links - I had already gone through most of those. I had not seen the fxforce backup so that gave me 3 from the list. Thanks!

meshes - I usually use Blender for polycount reduction. For setting up the uv, I've tried exporting as a obj to milkshape and setting it up there, with mixed results.

A tutorial would be nice - after all, the old "give a man a fish, teach a man to fish" deal
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: WyldFyre on January 10, 2023, 02:27:17 AM
vxmale_muscled_heels and male_heavy_mohawk are on the Bobby69/Vertex page at the museum.  http://ffmuseum.org/ (http://ffmuseum.org/)

Sending you the Valorine_Warrior by email.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: SickAlice on January 10, 2023, 10:26:28 AM
Quote from: Randomdays on January 09, 2023, 10:44:12 PM
meshes - I usually use Blender for polycount reduction. For setting up the uv, I've tried exporting as a obj to milkshape and setting it up there, with mixed results.

I learned it all by finding and doing online tutorials elsewhere mind you. Poly reduction is easy. I find Meshmixer and MS are a little better than Blender for this game because they're designed for low end game modding. They also don't tend to lose UV coordinates when reducing. Milkshape is cool because of the remapping features. That's how I get most of it done, just manually. And you can drag by vertice right on the texture itself and place them exactly where you want them. It's all basic and nothing advanced to pick it up. And step tutorials regardless, figure by Summer for me if all else goes according to plan. But like all else it can just as well be looked up on a different site too, a lot of the MS appears to be on YT now.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 10, 2023, 10:56:16 AM
Wyldefyre - Great! - that gets me down to one until I find some missing parts.

Panther had actually put up the link to fxforce backup and I totally missed it.

SA - Thanks and no big hurry. I'm not at 100% yet and there's plenty to keep me busy.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 11, 2023, 12:31:36 AM
Updated the 1st post. Waiting on Valorine from WyldFyre before removing it.

I don't want to do too many of these, but these are bothering me a bit. Some "Who did me" questions for Alpha Flight

Viewer cracking on most.

1) Box on Gren's Box mesh. Dated 2012 and dds files.The portrait is included in the corner.

(https://i.postimg.cc/HnnD1H7W/Box.jpg)

2) Wild Child on male_basic noface. Looks VERY close to the C6's on the group picture From 2007, but not quite. He did mention "updated" so this might be the original. I have 2 Alpha Flight packs from him  - One from Alex and one called "Patriotic Pack" Wild Child isn't in either one

(https://i.postimg.cc/MZ3Jbchn/wild_1.jpg)

3) 2 Wild Child's and a Wildheart on male_basic_hair_redux. No idea on these.

(https://i.postimg.cc/6qPs9Sdr/wild_2.jpg)



I've searched both the forums and the archives with no luck




Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 11, 2023, 12:48:34 AM
The box skin is by laughing paradox.

I thought i had the wild child but i don't so no luck there.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 11, 2023, 01:23:40 AM
Thanks DJ.

I checked LP's site and didn't see Box anywhere. Strange that there was no readme as he's usually good with that, and they were dds files instead of the tga's that he normally uses.

I wonder is someone messed with the file?
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 11, 2023, 02:55:10 AM
Quote from: Randomdays on January 11, 2023, 01:23:40 AM
Thanks DJ.

I checked LP's site and didn't see Box anywhere. Strange that there was no readme as he's usually good with that, and they were dds files instead of the tga's that he normally uses.

I wonder is someone messed with the file?

Highly likely because i got this exact skin with Gren's mesh and it had the readme plus a red version included. Looks like lp was doing the standards for it Vic grenadier's request.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 11, 2023, 10:58:09 AM
The copy of Gren's Box I have has the standard and the red version also. I'm at work but I think the standard with mine is a little different and has a different portrait than the one shown. I'll double check when I get home.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 11, 2023, 10:47:52 PM
Checked out LP's Box when I got home. The portraits ARE different, and while they look very alike on the model, the two tgas are different in appearance and in resolution.

Not sure if we have a match here. LP's skin is on the left (edit)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QCPgYSHb/box2.jpg)
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 11, 2023, 11:18:51 PM
Whoa...okay..that is weird...let me check the one I have tonight cause that is...weird....will check and let you know for sure.Did the one on the left come with Grenadier's Box mesh or was it seperate?
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 11, 2023, 11:30:31 PM
The one on the left is the LP Standard on the Box Mesh.

Sorry if that confused the hell out of you.

The one on the right is the high rez dds file (sometime i can't tell my right from the left)

I also have a LP Box skin that goes on Bevo's mesh - entirely different looking.

You and Bevo were actually a couple of my suspects who had made the unknown skin.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 11, 2023, 11:41:50 PM
Quote from: Randomdays on January 11, 2023, 11:30:31 PM
The one on the left is the LP Standard on the Box Mesh.

Sorry if that confused the hell out of you.

The one on the right is the high rez dds file (sometime i can't tell my right from the left)

I also have a LP Box skin that goes on Bevo's mesh - entirely different looking.

You and Bevo were actually a couple of my suspects who had made the unknown skin.

Ah...okay....that makes sense now.  The right one is done using Murs' base skin - the muscle look and the lines say so - so not mine cause have never used Murs' base for stuff and also probably not LP's then either - he made his own base after a time.  Deanjo uses Murs' base a lot and there are sections of the yellow that remind me of some of his work too (the way he does gradients and such) - have you checked with him?
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 12, 2023, 12:11:37 AM
Not yet. Checked his skinning/meshing thread and his downloads link and didn't see a Box.

Dean, you out there? Look familiar?
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: deanjo2000 on January 12, 2023, 03:42:36 AM
It?s not mine, I?ve only ever seen lp?s version. Maybe it?s cybers? He used murs base too?
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 12, 2023, 06:07:33 AM
CB, might have used murs' base a few times but he had a distinct style that doesn't correspond with this one. It looks close to your style deanjo, that was why i thought you did it. Now i have no idea - could be bevo or someone else. It isn't murs - i don't think - and not a c6, tomato, nait, aa, dg, podmark, laughing paradox,or one of mine...it is though def a second generation or onward - possibly third gen because i don't remember when murs released his base collection - skinner (ie ffvttr and after) but unhappily am stumped who for sure.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: deanjo2000 on January 12, 2023, 08:00:24 AM
What about area34? Or maybe tap43? I know area34 did a few xmen related stuff.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 12, 2023, 11:05:05 AM
Were they still skinning in 2012? I'll have to check some of the archives and do a site search to see what's up there.

I had thought of Bevo, though he has his own mesh out there, which also has a LP skin for it. Since he had his own thread I'll "peruse" it when I can.

To me the portrait had a "C6" feel to it at least, but I'll go with DJ's thoughts since he has a better feel for things.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 13, 2023, 07:43:28 PM
edit - update the 1st entry for more missing files


kf problem;

I'm grabbing Zulu Delta's Justice Corps Heroes and Villains from the NPI wayback  archive. The Justice Corps was his original set of characters he made, with different sets for each age.

http://web.archive.org/web/20060113133203/http://newpowerinc.com:80/goldenagejc.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20060113133203/http://newpowerinc.com:80/goldenagejc.htm)

The links still appear to be good so far.

I'm having an issue with the Golden Age hero "The Slugger" According to the readme, its based off of, and uses the keyframes of, GA Atom Ren 2. I've tried those and some other Ren kfs and they're not working (including Ren's Superman that's mentioned for some reason
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: SickAlice on January 14, 2023, 02:34:47 PM
You could just skope some of those?
SW_no_tiara and storm_basic_FH I "think" were the first versions INK released (so not gypsy or Jim Lee 2). So you would make the tiara invisible in SW, make everything in Storm invisible but the body and fullhair.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 14, 2023, 02:54:37 PM
I could probably do that, but of course I'd prefer the original mesh if I can get it. I'll wait till I finally get done with the list and see where I'm at then. For now, they'll just be put to the side in case someone comes up with them

Thanks for the Ideas SA
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: SickAlice on January 14, 2023, 04:10:13 PM
Another is a lot of skins used those nifs, I can't say off hand which other than Frenzy and Unuscione from X-Men offhand for that Storm one. So just dl whatever skins from Alex's or elsewhere and grab them that way and toss the keyframes in where needed of course. That would be the original nif then since they were all copies of the same.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 18, 2023, 12:14:59 AM
SA; Yeah, I was thinking of using maybe a WW mesh for a couple. But, not too worried about them till the end. In the meantime if somebody digs them up before then, then great.


I've been looking for some John Jr skins/mesh, specifically his Nick Fury WW2 one. There doesn't seem a lot out there for the Howling Commandos era - him or the rest.

If I can't get John's version, I do have one from Ultimate Alliance. I'll have to dig the game out and figure out how to get him working and do a capture of him like I did back in the day.

I have some of his work, but if anyone has a collection, please send it my way.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on January 19, 2023, 12:07:45 AM
The name of the UA Fury mesh I have is "Fury.HC.by.BLaw.rar" I've done some searching on the web and its nowhere to found. UA has 4 standard Fury skins and none of them are WW2, so this is most probably a custom skin. At present, I have no idea what he looks like

While I'm waiting to see if JJ's skin shows up, I'll grab UA and open it up. If he looks good, I'll try to see about importing him and rigging him. I guess its lucky I grabbed him probably 10 or so years ago.

Looking over the web, I didn't see ANY Sgt Fury 3d models anywhere out there.



Edit - Found JJ's Sgt Fury!. JJ did a Captain America mod with his Sgt Fury in it back in 2010. It's got a nice readme telling who did what skin/mesh, and is easy to navigate.

There's a couple of skins and meshes by JJ in the mod, plus by others. Maybe some other lost work in there as well. Going though old mods was on my list somewhere down the line.

Pic of his Fury below. I'll probably take a look at the UA Fury anyway to see how it stacks up.

(https://i.postimg.cc/R0NP0Yzs/fury.jpg)
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on February 12, 2023, 02:56:09 PM
Updated the list on the first page. Removed some found entries and added some new ones.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Panther_Gunn on February 14, 2023, 01:29:39 AM
Quote from: Randomdays on January 03, 2023, 11:47:31 PM
8) I've got skins for Ooze and Sluk by Spring Heeled Jack. They both need their meshes by Texas Jack

Neither of these meshes seem to be in what I have for TJ's YG, TexasJackMeshes & TexasJack3.  TexasJack4 was empty in the dump, and of course his second group ended up gettting porn spammed years ago.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: detourne_me on February 14, 2023, 10:42:13 PM
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on February 14, 2023, 01:29:39 AM
Quote from: Randomdays on January 03, 2023, 11:47:31 PM
8) I've got skins for Ooze and Sluk by Spring Heeled Jack. They both need their meshes by Texas Jack

Neither of these meshes seem to be in what I have for TJ's YG, TexasJackMeshes & TexasJack3.  TexasJack4 was empty in the dump, and of course his second group ended up gettting porn spammed years ago.

Those TexasJack meshes for the x-statix characters have been lost for years. I was never able to track them down after..say 2007.
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on February 14, 2023, 11:23:02 PM
Thanks guys... good to know, but sad, that those skins won't have their original homes. Maybe they would fit on another version of the character.

Any hope for any of the others on the list?
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: GogglesPizanno on February 14, 2023, 11:35:52 PM
I just looked in my archive and I found the following skins by SHJ but they include meshes that the read me says are from Texas Jack.
Not sure if that's true or just read me copy-paste, but in case it is, here ya go.

Ooze
Orbit
Sluk
Smoke
Vivisector

https://www.negative-10.com/tj_xstatix_maybe.zip
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on February 15, 2023, 12:45:09 AM
Wow! Thanks Goggles!

These look good. The skin dates are 2003/ 2004 and the nif is 2003. I think these are the ones. I'll compare the skins with mine to make sure.

dm and Panther, and anyone else - grab them from the link!
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: GogglesPizanno on February 15, 2023, 01:08:29 AM
I may have found a few more from that list if they are still being searched for:

https://www.negative-10.com/MissngMeshes1.zip
Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: Randomdays on February 15, 2023, 01:56:45 AM
Thanks for those also Goggles!  The list is up to date with what's missing. I'll take a look at what you sent over tomorrow and update it as needed.

Title: Re: Missing List Meshes
Post by: DimLab on February 18, 2024, 03:28:34 PM
Hello everyone, the link I clicked on apparently no longer exists, but I really wanted these characters, is there any alternative link?
https://www.negative-10.com/tj_xstatix_maybe.zip