http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/02/x-men-first-class-sequel-news-what-is-days-of-future-past
Could make for some interesting move-making... Assuming they can make sense out of their weird continuity.
Seein as how XIII kinda tanked story wise this might be a good move and could set up a nice reboot.
It had to be done eventually, as a continuation of the "First Class" line it would be great, I loved first class.
I was hoping they would animate it some day though, I wish Marvel had the healthy animation output that DC has (in terms of movies)
Quote from: lugaru on August 03, 2012, 02:28:10 PM
It had to be done eventually, as a continuation of the "First Class" line it would be great, I loved first class.
I was hoping they would animate it some day though, I wish Marvel had the healthy animation output that DC has (in terms of movies)
Agreed.
Quote from: lugaru on August 03, 2012, 02:28:10 PM
It had to be done eventually, as a continuation of the "First Class" line it would be great, I loved first class.
I was hoping they would animate it some day though, I wish Marvel had the healthy animation output that DC has (in terms of movies)
I would say animation output in general *looks sideways at loeb*
Ha, right 'Mato.
You know, this would be incredibly easy for them to screw up, but I love that story, so if they pull it off it will be awesome.
I was a fan of the First Class movie, and I hope Marvel-Fox simply decides to continue that continuity without worrying about boxing themselves into the limitations of the original Singer-Ratner trilogy.
Time travel is a tricky thing to pull off... for every story that manages to pull it off without going over the top, (Star Trek being the main one I hope this movie emulates) another manages to get overly convoluted and silly. I hope they pull it off, but as back and forth as the X-men films have been... I dunno. I hope they don't get convoluted and crazy with it.
Quote from: Tomato on August 04, 2012, 02:24:32 PM
Time travel is a tricky thing to pull off... for every story that manages to pull it off without going over the top, (Star Trek being the main one I hope this movie emulates) another manages to get overly convoluted and silly. I hope they pull it off, but as back and forth as the X-men films have been... I dunno. I hope they don't get convoluted and crazy with it.
Speaking of Star Trek, I suppose this type of plot might be a good way for the X-Men franchise to completely reboot itself while acknowledging that the other films still took place within an alternate timeline.
Multiverses are so confusing!
i wonder if roles like wolverine will be reduced, i dont see jackman going directly from his movie to this one
I'm sure this can be handled well, but I love the original content so much that I am wary to see an adaptation of it. I just want to see both scenes from the covers in the movie: where Wolverine and Shadowcat are in front of the X-men Wanted poster and when a Sentinel blasts Wolverine to smithereens. I also would like to see a more accurate Brotherhood roster in this flick. Give me Avalanche, Pyro, Blob and Destiny.
I still don't understand why Nightcrawler's dad was in the first one.
I just realized...
I dont know if you have seen this show, but man oh man it will scratch your itch... it is pure bleak "days of future past" goodness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_and_the_X-Men_(TV_series)
Trash Industries viral:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92YBR9gEyYI
Tweeted Sentinel pic:
http://screencrush.com/x-men-days-of-future-past-sentinels-photo-production/
I'm not entirely sure what I think about that Sentinel design. I'd like to see it in action.
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I'm sure this can be handled well, but I love the original content so much that I am wary to see an adaptation of it. I just want to see both scenes from the covers in the movie: where Wolverine and Shadowcat are in front of the X-men Wanted poster and when a Sentinel blasts Wolverine to smithereens. I also would like to see a more accurate Brotherhood roster in this flick. Give me Avalanche, Pyro, Blob and Destiny.
I still don't understand why Nightcrawler's dad was in the first one.
Visually interesting powers, relatively blank slate to build from, nightcrawler's father, etc.
I just saw the trailer and I can't say it was really exciting. It was good but bit bland. I'm still going to try to see the movie when it's out but the trailer doesn't blow any wind up my skirt.
However, the Trask industry (http://www.trask-industries.com/#/home) trailer was awesome. If you can find this 45 second piece it's worth watching. I'm more excited after seeing that than seeing the official film trailer.
Part of it is that the fx are completely unready for use just yet, so no sentinels or anything else all that interesting. Later trailers should give us more.
It caught my interest. It looks like the original cast (and by that I mean Charles, Erik and Logan) will have a bigger role than I was expecting.
So... Bryan Singer's tweet....
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@BryanSinger: #Xmen #Apocalypse 2016!
That's a great choice for the next movie, but I wonder which X-Men will star in it.
Ohh, I'd definitely like to see that. :D
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Ohh, I'd definitely like to see that. :D
Agreed! :thumbup:
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I believe the prevailing thought is that Days of Future Past's conclusion will swing the future from mutants incarcerated and hunted to an Age of Apocalypse-esque future where humanity is enslaved.
Quote from: XStream on December 07, 2013, 03:17:48 AM
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I believe the prevailing thought is that Days of Future Past's conclusion will swing the future from mutants incarcerated and hunted to an Age of Apocalypse-esque future where humanity is enslaved.
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Just like Wolverine and the X-Men! So disappointing we didn't get a second season.
Poster and latest trailer is out.
http://www.dcuopost.com/multiverse-news/new-x-men-days-of-future-past-official-trailer-poster/
Sandwich commercial that provides first look at Quicksilver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svPgFAUDLBk
Outfit aside (I'm sure he'll have a better looking one in the movie), not a fan of that wig I must say.
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The teaser for Marvel Studio's Quicksilver at the end of Captain America: Winter Soldier was better than this.
But, it made me laugh. :P
Here's the opening scene of the movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn_4k-rri1Y
Final X-Men: Days of Future Past Trailer Looks Absolutely Stunning (http://www.dcuopost.com/multiverse-news/final-x-men-days-of-future-past-trailer-looks-absolutely-stunning/)
Yeah. That final trailer has removed almost all the doubt from my mind. So excited to see this now
Okay, the Sentinels definitely look a lot better in this trailer. Still not quite like the comic look, but close enough to be actual Sentinels and much better than they seemed to look in the previous trailer.
I'm still not getting my hopes up too much but the trailer looks very good.
So... Bryan Singer.
The recent allegations against him aren't gonna impact my decision to go see the new X-men, but dang... that's some twisted stuff.
Yeah... I'd really rather not even discuss this here, but given what we know right now I call BS on the whole thing. The fact that this whole thing is coming down right as Days of Future Past is coming out makes the timing of this mess more than a little suspect IMHO.
Whether or not the specific allegations are in fact true, it is true that Hollywood very much has a culture of abuse against child stars and would be child stars. Some have started to come forward now and it seems to be a VERY common practice among certain Hollywood elite to do this sort of thing and is only now starting to come out. Singer is connected to a man known to have masterminded this sort of thing, but that by itself does not prove anything. Apparently child sexual abuse is so common among certain Hollywood folks as to make it unsurprising if this were true.
Anyhow, that's all I care to say about the subject here.
Okay, now that I've seen my seventh X-Men movie, I'm really gonna need some help... Because I am now no longer sure the other six movies make much sense.
Ok people just a qoick question.Is First Class cannon or is it rebot or something.Since it contradicts X-man 3 and Origins:wolverine?
Quote from: Spade on May 24, 2014, 03:02:39 PM
Ok people just a qoick question.Is First Class cannon or is it rebot or something.Since it contradicts X-man 3 and Origins:wolverine?
As contradictory to previous films First Class is, I
think First Class is actually cannon.
Or it could be considered an alternate timeline. The original X-Men trilogy is the Timeline that leads up the Sentinel dominated timeline while the First Class one is a past that is already leading to a different, better future. It's already not quite the same as the other timeline and the events of this movie will hopefully steer it completely away form the whole Sentinel apocalypse thing. Under that interpretation, though the original characters are doomed and only saving another timeline, not their own.
Makes better sense to me than ignoring the contradictions though.
You think Cable or Bishop would pop out somewhere,if the timeline is truly this weird.
Bishop has been confirmed to be appearing in this movie.
So what DID happen?
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If this is the new timeline and the other five movies(X-Men X2, X-Men 3, X-Men Origins, The Wolverine) didn't happen, then what happened over the next 50 years? How are the X-Men together? Wolverine is at the school so I guess X-Men 1 happened right? Or did it? Wolverine has his adamantium, so X-Men Origins and X2 happened right? But Jean Grey is alive so it didn't happen, did it? How does aspects that had to happen in the earlier movies happen, but not validate the rest of the movie that happened?
It just seem like the swiss cheesed the continuity where some things did happen and some things didn't happen. Like this is the New 52 or something.
I saw X-MEN DOFP yesterday and totally loved it!! The writers and Bryan Singer did a masterful job of keeping the best of the best from both First Class AND X1/X2 while acknowledging X3, Wolverine Origins, and The Wolverine happened but certain things have changed due to the shift in the timeline (No Sentinel program ever happened, Magneto is building his Brotherhood but no longer at war with humanity, Weapon X program still happened but Stryker has possibly changed his ways of thinking, and Mystique is now independent doing her own thing but no longer a killer). It certainly has gotten me to go back and look at the entire X-Men movie cineverse in a new light. Singer and Simon Kinberg have said that X-Men Apocalypse will focus on the history of mutant kind and the science behind it while moving the story of the First Class cast into the '80s.. including bringing in the young Cyclops, Jean, and Storm into the newly reopened Xavier Institute. Kinberg also recently revealed that Quicksilver will be returning as well.
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1. If this is the new timeline and the other five movies(X-Men X2, X-Men 3, X-Men Origins, The Wolverine) didn't happen, then what happened over the next 50 years?
CQ: That is to be determined in X-Men Apocalypse and all future X-Men films. The only film not retconned by the time shift in X-Men DOFP is X-MEN First Class.
2. How are the X-Men together?
CQ: Singer and Kinberg have said that Xavier created the X-Men as a team to handle threats to humankind and mutantkind alike.. while Magneto remains a "bad guy" it's now because he knows that humankind needs someone to fear and make sure that mutantkind has a visible leader to keep that future of extinction from ever happening.
3. Wolverine is at the school so I guess X-Men 1 happened right? Or did it?
CQ: Yeah, Wolverine ends up at the school.. but since Magneto has changed his ways Magneto probably wanted Rogue for his Brotherhood OR maybe this time he was brought there by Jubilee? Have to wait to see X-Men Apocalypse to find out.
4. Wolverine has his adamantium, so X-Men Origins and X2 happened right?
CQ: Wolverine ends up at Weapon X but apparently Stryker gets him after Wolverine is fished out of the Potomac River instead of the whole mess of a story that Wolverine Origins was. So, Wolverine coming to Skryker to get the Adamantium to go after Sabretooth and the whole Deadpool (eerr.. Barakapool) thing NEVER happened. Thank goodness.
5. But Jean Grey is alive so it didn't happen, did it?
CQ: XMEN: THE LAST STAND never happened.. Magneto now knows that his pointless war with Charles cost more lives then it was worth. I'm sure that Magneto and Charles have clashed a few times in the new timeline but he never manipulated Mystique or Jean to make them weapons so Jean's death in X2 and her corruption into Dark Phoenix in X3 have been wiped out.
6. How does aspects that had to happen in the earlier movies happen, but not validate the rest of the movie that happened?
CQ: First Class is 100% unchanged and probably X1 & X2 happened just that things occurred differently because Magneto knows his war with Charles was pointless and Mystique is now independent from Charles and Xavier following her own path. Plus Mystique's tearful reaction to seeing Azazel's morgue photo is a big hint that Nightcrawler is her son with him and she gave him up because of his death. Singer has said that he wanted to bring Nightcrawler back but Alan Cumming's schedule couldn't allow it.. so getting a new actor to play the younger Nightcrawler would allow for a recasting to solve the problem (it would make sense for Raven to find her son before Stryker would this time around since she wasn't Magneto's assassin).
- CQ
Is this worth seeing in 3d? We're looking to get tickets for this Thursday.
Quote from: Tomato on May 25, 2014, 06:10:53 PM
Is this worth seeing in 3d? We're looking to get tickets for this Thursday.
Oh yeah definitly, almost all of the reviewers I have seen on Youtube or on blogs which have seen the 3D version.. said it's probably the some of the best conversion done yet and actually used to enhance the experience then just for simple gags.
- CQ
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Quote4. Wolverine has his adamantium, so X-Men Origins and X2 happened right?
CQ: Wolverine ends up at Weapon X but apparently Stryker gets him after Wolverine is fished out of the Potomac River instead of the whole mess of a story that Wolverine Origins was. So, Wolverine coming to Skryker to get the Adamantium to go after Sabretooth and the whole Deadpool (eerr.. Barakapool) thing NEVER happened. Thank goodness.
So what you are saying is Ryan Reynolds has another shot at playing Deadpool?
Quote from: XStream on May 26, 2014, 02:44:44 AM
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Quote4. Wolverine has his adamantium, so X-Men Origins and X2 happened right?
CQ: Wolverine ends up at Weapon X but apparently Stryker gets him after Wolverine is fished out of the Potomac River instead of the whole mess of a story that Wolverine Origins was. So, Wolverine coming to Skryker to get the Adamantium to go after Sabretooth and the whole Deadpool (eerr.. Barakapool) thing NEVER happened. Thank goodness.
So what you are saying is Ryan Reynolds has another shot at playing Deadpool?
Yes, He does... Ryan has been rallying for getting another shot at Deadpool.. origin story or otherwise. X-Force is listed among FOX's spinoff movies beyond X-Men Apocalypse and there has been talks of a Deadpool solo film now that the slate is wiped clean. Ryan explained in an interview that FOX had plans for using him in the finale and somehow during the rewrites the whole design for Deadpool was changed so the stuntman could be used during ALL of the remaining shots "in costume"... so they released him from filming and then called him back in a panic for some reshots near the end of production for his new after credits scene after an early cut was leaked. Ryan said he was VERY unhappy when he finally saw what they did with Deadpool and never had plans for him to do voice dubbing of the "costumed" Wade. Course the Director/Producers assured him that his "new ending" would allow him to return to the role in a spin-off and all of the odd powers they gave Deadpool were just "temporary". Course the failure of the movie derailed both the Deadpool spin off and the Gambit spin off and forced the next Wolverine sequel to ignore that the first one ever happened storywise.
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I don't know when I will be able to see this one, but I have to know how does Charles Xavier show up at the end of The Wolverine and in the future of X:DoFP?
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From what I'm hearing that was the telepathic mutant coma patient from the post-credit scene of X-Men 3 that we saw in The Wolverine and XM:DOFP with Charlies mind giving anyone who looks at him the illusion of it still being Charles. I'm assuming the whole scene from The Wolverine in the airport was intended to be the foreshadowing of Trask's Super Sentinel program coming online which made Xavier and Eric realize they needed his help in the war. Once the time shift occurs his death by Phoenix never happened so he is back in his original body and running the school just like he should be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvkCv5cCD5Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvkCv5cCD5Y)
In a world where people love superheroes,people will hate mutants.
Because for some reason mutant powers are totally different then superpowers. :D
For those of you who might want to read a whole article about the ending of X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST, It's very interesting and even has diagrams to try to explain all of the changes:
http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/05/23/x-men-ending-future-past/
- CQ
Saw this on the weekend and I thought it was awesome. A little light on action but strong on story and character. Right now I'm calling it my favorite X-Men movie.
A couple highlights:
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I really liked Magneto's costume. Also found it interesting how easily he went the villainous route.
Surprising how little action Wolverine got into.
Quicksilver was very entertaining.
Loved seeing the original X-Men cast. Especially Jean, Scott and Beast at the end.
I was very happy that the timeline was changed. Knowing that Scott and Jean survived makes me very happy.
The new mutants were very cool and surprisingly accurate. Blink was amazing. And I find crazy that an accurate Ink actually appeared on film.
With this and Cap this is turning out to be an excellent summer for comic movies.
Thanks CQ, I guess I can accept that.
But it wasn't addressed in the movie? This is just fan rational as to what happened? I mean, I buy it and all. I just don't like the idea that they never addressed it. I mean he woke up in the body of a brain dead coma patient of Moira (who was no longer an American CIA agent but some sort of researcher....). Spoiler
Anyway, it sounds like it did what I wanted and erased X:OW and X3:The Last Stand. I look forward to seeing it.
I can't! I'm sorry, but if what you say is true, CQ that just makes the rest of the other movies just weird.
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I read your answers and not that I agree or disagree, but you gave a lot of "maybes" and "probablys" and "apparentlys", but that's the problem. It NEVER explained any of that or rightfully connected the dots. Seriously, if X2 happened, then how is Jean Grey in the end? She "died" at the end. But if it did happen and she was resurrected, then X3 happened then... which means she's dead(again). But if she's not dead, then X3 didn't happen, she couldn't have been resurrected so she didn't "die" in X2 so that never happened. Obviously X1 happened because Logan's at the school.
So as much as I can figure, X-Men 2, 3 and The Wolverine didn't happen. X-Men Origins did... But that's my problem. They never EXPLAINED any of this. Even when Star Trek made it's own alternative timeline, that was the beginning of the movie and the rest of the movie and the next EXPLAINED what happened IN that timeline.
That's my problem.
Quote from: Shogunn2517 on May 27, 2014, 06:00:36 AM
I can't! I'm sorry, but if what you say is true, CQ that just makes the rest of the other movies just weird.
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I read your answers and not that I agree or disagree, but you gave a lot of "maybes" and "probablys" and "apparentlys", but that's the problem. It NEVER explained any of that or rightfully connected the dots. Seriously, if X2 happened, then how is Jean Grey in the end? She "died" at the end. But if it did happen and she was resurrected, then X3 happened then... which means she's dead(again). But if she's not dead, then X3 didn't happen, she couldn't have been resurrected so she didn't "die" in X2 so that never happened. Obviously X1 happened because Logan's at the school.
So as much as I can figure, X-Men 2, 3 and The Wolverine didn't happen. X-Men Origins did... But that's my problem. They never EXPLAINED any of this. Even when Star Trek made it's own alternative timeline, that was the beginning of the movie and the rest of the movie and the next EXPLAINED what happened IN that timeline.
That's my problem.
Regarding X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE..
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It never happened.. remember that all of the flashes you saw of Xavier reading Wolverine's mind is of the alternate timeline where he was sent back from the future. Now if you remember the story of Origins, Wolverine and Sabretooth are soldiers in the Vietnam War and a mistake causes them to be arrested and then executed several dozen times before Stryker finds them for his "Team X". Now X-Men DOFP picks up with Wolverine in 1973.. 2 years before the war officially ends. It's obvious he isn't hanging with Sabretooth (and the title sequence implied they never left each others side through centuries of war together) and it looked like he had been dodging the draft to avoid going into war once again. When his body is found in the Potomac River by police and Major Stryker (which is obviously Mystique in disquise) apparently he still ends up in the Weapon X program BUT with mutants now being public much earlier then before and Stryker losing most of his "anti-mutant" influence because of Trask being arrested for treason things will probably happen much differently.
The best way to explain the whole time shift...
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X-MEN FIRST CLASS and XMEN: DOFP are 2 parts of the reboot trilogy.. Once the timeshift occured it erased X1, X2, X3, XO:Wolverine, & The Wolverine as they originally occurred from the new history.
Which leaves us with this timeline:
[Apocalypse is Born In Acient Egypt]---[Wolverine is Born]---[Magneto is Born]---[Charles is Born]---[Events Of X-Men First Class (1962)]---[Events Of X-Men DOFP (1973)]---[Events of X-Men Apocalypse (198?)]---[Wolverine Wakes Up In 2023]
Singer & Kingberg knew that everyone had issues with ALL of the previous X-Men movies for one reason or another. Singer has stated that he got some of the casting right but realized he might have changed up some characters if he had the chance in retrospect. Now X2 could only work if X3 was done correctly as Singer planned but that was all trashed by the way Retner executed it and Nightcrawler wasn't able to return as planned. Wolverine Origins was a train wreck because the writing was horrible and they totally ticked off fans with Barakapool. Now The Wolverine was just made to be a good Wolverine in Japan story and they weaved in his reason for being away from the X-MEN as Jean's death knowing that XMEN:DOFP would recon most of their whole story anyway. There really isn't any way to just explain what did and did not happen in the new timeline..it just doesn't matter because the 50 years between 1973 and the new future 2023 is a clean slate to be told in future movies plus allowing fans to fill in the blanks until the next chapter is revealed.
- CQ
Yeah the X-Men continuity got all screwed up.
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First Class created a number of conflicts that can't be ironed out without a nice big hammer. But honestly I got over that a long time ago.
Now After DoFP the other movies didn't happen. A new set of events will occur which should (but as the new movies come out probably won't) lead to Wolverine and everyone running the school again in 2023.
I'm actually quite okay with this. The original cast has aged to the point that they will become exceedingly unavailable for future films, even Jackman has talked about retiring from his role in the future. The new actors for Xavier, Magneto, Beast and Mystique are great and now we have an opportunity to get Cyclops and Jean back in play without some kind of crazy resurrection device. And the old films are still there to enjoy.
So in short: First class was a begining of a new continuity?
Quote from: Spade on May 28, 2014, 05:42:04 AM
So in short: First class was a begining of a new continuity?
Pretty much. FOX was always looking to reboot the franchise with First Class but when Singer returned they figured the Days Of Future Past would be a good story to continue the Young Xavier & Magneto storyline plus fix everything that didn't work before. X-Men Apocalypse will fill us in on what happened between '73 and whatever period of the '80s it takes place in and probably use Cable as the time jumper.
- CQ
Just saw this today, quite enjoyed it. Die in a fire, X-men 3!!! You never happened!!
Overall, X-men continuity is wonky but...
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now we don't know what has and hasn't happened. Wolverine waking up at the end of Days of Future Past is just like the audience - we know history has changed, but we don't know how yet. Some version of X-men 1 and 2 may have happened, but clearly things played out a little differently this time - for the better. Going forward, future X-men movies are going to be with the younger cast, and set in the advancing "past" timeline, filling us in on what happened this time around.
My biggest WTF moment was the whole nonchalant reveal that Kitty Pryde can just send people back in time. "Oh, yeah, Kitty sends people back in time now. Didn't you know?" Minor issue, but weird.
My favourite scene was probably Quicksilver (who's not much more than an extended cameo) helping them break Magneto out of prison. His superspeed was handled brilliantly (and only makes me that much sadder that DC is wasting the Flash on low-budget television).
I saw this last weekend, and it was really good. I was quite impressed, as I went in rather expecting them to butcher the story. I'm not crazy about the more sympathetic version of Mystique, but it lent itself to a pretty good story.
On the whole, I didn't have any complaints that weren't merely 'they changed X from the comics.' To be honest, that ship had sailed long ago with these movies. I think I'd much rather they have just started over with a blank slate with
X-Men First Class (a good film with plenty of flaws, that one), but if that wasn't going to happen, this was a good way to continue the story. I do really wish they'd have given young Xavier a freaking haircut somewhere during the film, though. ;)
Some general thoughts:
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Quicksilver was very cool, but I felt like they treated his speed a bit too ridiculously. He couldn't really function as part of a team if he was that fast, as he could instantly solve everything. In fact, if they'd brought him along to Paris, the movie would have ended right there. Everyone I was with loved his scenes, and I admit, they were really neat. Yet, it only really works as a gag, methinks.
Magneto was great, but I'd have liked to see a bit more of him.
Wolverine worked well in the Kitty Pryde role, and the story logic of his choice made sense.
I both liked and disliked that Kitty was the time machine. I loved the reference to the classic story, where she's the one that goes back, but I was very mildly annoyed that it didn't really make sense for her powers to work that way.
The effects and the fights were really cool! I'd have loved to see a better X-Team actually have a real fight with the Mark-I Sentinels, though. Wolverine, Xavier, and Beast weren't much of a threat to them. I'd have loved to see Cyclops and company take them on. The future fights were really cool, but you couldn't enjoy them as much since the team couldn't actually destroy any of the Sentinels.
I wonder how much they paid Halle Berry to stand around and say two lines.
It was great to see the old cast again, and to see them get a better send off. I really enjoyed the ending, with the Xavier School up and running as it should be! How cool was that! One of my friends is a history prof., and he LOVED that Logan was teaching history.
I didn't think Beast looked quite right, but I'm not sure what it was, exactly, that was off.
I wasn't crazy about Magneto's costume.[/spoiler]
I will say this, though. I am really sick of characters being treated as blank slates with a set of powers. Yet, even that is preferable to:
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Ignoring not only a character's history and personality, but their powers as well! Why even use the character? Correct me if I'm wrong, since I'm not a huge New Mutants fan, but isn't Sunspot's ONLY power super strength? Since when is he the Human Torch? It seems pretty clear that they just read his name and said, 'ohh, yeah, he must be a fire guy. He'll do.'
All in all, it was a good movie, one of the best X-flicks, and I might like to own it someday. It pales in comparison to the great Marvel movies, though.
Its gona be weird seeing Quicksilver again in Age of Ultron,but you know a whole different guy.
ALSO Tyrion Lanister :thumbup:
Sunspot had his powers expanded in X-Force in the 90s.
Taking bets on how Apocalypse dies in the next movie. 1st guess: Jean Grey becomes the Phoenix. 2nd guess: A combined attack by Xavier and Magneto and a bunch of the Brotherhood and X-men for good measure.
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What a great ending. X3 needed to be retconned to hell even if it meant doing the same to the first two movies. That said, I was confused about when the dark future timeline occurred. The movie started out that way, but at the end of The Wolverine none of that stuff had happened, though Trask was referenced. As far as I'm concerned, this movie and First Class started in an alternate timeline to the trilogy and two wolverines, and ended in another alternate timeline. It's a mess and little effort has gone into explaining it, but at least they've made three really amazing movies in a row, I can't wait for more.
Quote from: BWPS on May 31, 2014, 08:07:10 PM
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What a great ending. X3 needed to be retconned to hell even if it meant doing the same to the first two movies. That said, I was confused about when the dark future timeline occurred. The movie started out that way, but at the end of The Wolverine none of that stuff had happened, though Trask was referenced. As far as I'm concerned, this movie and First Class started in an alternate timeline to the trilogy and two wolverines, and ended in another alternate timeline. It's a mess and little effort has gone into explaining it, but at least they've made three really amazing movies in a row, I can't wait for more.
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The end of The Wolverine takes place like 5 or 10 years before the future we see supposedly
I still haven't been able to see the movie, but my thoughts on an Age of Apocalypse movie makes me think that the new timeline will result in creating a new more bleak future where humans are hunted by mutants. So they were successful in changing the future, but it will not turn out as happy as it appears now.
Oh, and from what I have read the Wolverine at the end of this movie remembers the former timeline... sounds like in the next movie Wolverine is replacing Bishop's role. Remember in Age of Apocalypse Bishop had memories of the timeline where Charles Xavier survived. The entire four months of stories were centered around the X-Men restoring the correct timeline due to Bishops memories.
I don't think the reboot is done just yet...
Quote from: XStream on May 31, 2014, 11:53:02 PM
I still haven't been able to see the movie, but my thoughts on an Age of Apocalypse movie makes me think that the new timeline will result in creating a new more bleak future where humans are hunted by mutants. So they were successful in changing the future, but it will not turn out as happy as it appears now.
Pretty much exactly what I am believing will happen :P
Quote from: XStream on May 31, 2014, 11:53:02 PM
I still haven't been able to see the movie, but my thoughts on an Age of Apocalypse movie makes me think that the new timeline will result in creating a new more bleak future where humans are hunted by mutants. So they were successful in changing the future, but it will not turn out as happy as it appears now.
Oh, and from what I have read the Wolverine at the end of this movie remembers the former timeline... sounds like in the next movie Wolverine is replacing Bishop's role. Remember in Age of Apocalypse Bishop had memories of the timeline where Charles Xavier survived. The entire four months of stories were centered around the X-Men restoring the correct timeline due to Bishops memories.
I don't think the reboot is done just yet...
I realize you haven't seen the movie soo...
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Within the context of DoFP we actually know that the future turns out pretty good as we see Wolverine back at the school with everyone still alive and things seeming peaceful. Of course things could change.
As for Wolverine I think the way this works is:
Past Wolverine mentally replaced by future Wolverine
At a point in the film when seeing Stryker the link is damaged and Past Wolverine reasserts control briefly - he doesn't remember what Future Wolverine has done nor knows where he is
Future Wolverine takes control again and changes the future, leaves body
Past Wolverine lives out his life...
Until he is replaced by Future Wolverine, who doesn't know anything about the new time line, only remembers the original.
Which is kinda sad really. Essentially future Wolverine "killed" Past Wolverine - a man who lived a very different life.
Anyway in the following movies I would expect "young" Wolverine won't know anything about the previous timeline and have no idea about what happened in DoFP.
I really doubt they will be using Age of Apocalypse as the story line. I am more inclined to believe his first dealings with X-Factor and turning Angel to Archangel would be a better jumping point.
Now its called just Apocalypse.Do you think that Apocalypse(charachter) will appear?
Quote from: Spade on June 01, 2014, 04:51:45 AM
Now its called just Apocalypse.Do you think that Apocalypse(charachter) will appear?
Apparently you have not seen the post-credit scene.. it's kinda obvious.
Now will we get the futuristic Apocalypse in his armor (like the comics and cartoons) or will they have a more modern take using a more Egyptian theme of a Arabian God Among Men? Depends on what Singer has in mind. The '80s (the time period in which X-Men Apocalypse occurs) was the boom of the oil trading period and when Ronald Regan was worried about World War III, Terrorism, Hostage/Arms Trading, and the surge in technology which launched Silicon Valley.. so there is lots of events to tie the story around.
- CQ
I havent seen the movie yet.Ill probably wait for a dvd or something. :)
While playing X-men legends 2 I thought they should totaly made a movie set in Savage Land.Even if just for lulz. ;)
Umm... Spade? *cough*Forum Rule 3*cough*
Anway... I've heard people bring that up, but Savage Land is right up there with the Mojoverse... it was created in the X-men comics, but it really doesn't fit with the tone of the comics themselves. Besides, we know Dinosaurs have feathers now. Who here really wants to see the X-men fighting giant chickens?
Kidding people,just kidding.
Real dinosaurs and movie dinos are very different.But X-men meets Jurassic park would be awessome.But I dont think they could use the name Sauron now.But thats not gonna happen anyway.
Quote from: Tomato on June 01, 2014, 06:20:19 AM
Umm... Spade? *cough*Forum Rule 3*cough*
Anway... I've heard people bring that up, but Savage Land is right up there with the Mojoverse... it was created in the X-men comics, but it really doesn't fit with the tone of the comics themselves. Besides, we know Dinosaurs have feathers now. Who here really wants to see the X-men fighting giant chickens?
Can it be Beak? I'd pay to watch it.
Oh,yeah,was there a Stan Lee cameo?
No, but they did do cameos with Chris Claremont (who wrote the original story) and Len Wein (co-creator of Wolverine). Truthfully, of all the comics he's responsible for, Stan Lee has had the least to do with the X-men.
But he still made cameos.
Pod, thanks for clarifying a few things for me. Spoiler
I did understand that the "new" Wolverine will live his life on screen for us without knowledge of the previous timeline, but I think the whole reason "old" Wolverine wakes up in "new" Wolverine's future is to realize when the crap hits the fan it has something to do with what he did in the past. At least it would explain why "old" Wolverine woke up in "new" Wolverine's future.
I don't think we will see the Age of Apocalypse, but learn that he has been orchestrating things in the past and make a big play while "old" Wolverine is still trying to figure out what has happened to him. There will be something that connects the events of what Wolverine did in the past with Apocalypse gaining control, maybe even Sinister plays a role in connecting the dots for them. Sinister's involvement may even insure that Cyclops and Jean survive.
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Strangly fitting or fittingly strange?
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Strangly fitting or fittingly strange?
The size, look and presence are there but I cannot imagine The Rock's voice as that of Apocalypse. Apocalypse should have a voice that the thunder would envy.
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Strangly fitting or fittingly strange?
The size, look and presence are there but I cannot imagine The Rock's voice as that of Apocalypse. Apocalypse should have a voice that the thunder would envy.
Indeed.
Quote from: Tomato on June 01, 2014, 03:55:39 PM
No, but they did do cameos with Chris Claremont (who wrote the original story) and Len Wein (co-creator of Wolverine). Truthfully, of all the comics he's responsible for, Stan Lee has had the least to do with the X-men.
Wait, they had cameos? Neat! Where?
They're both among the senators present for Trask's presentation. Bryan Singer also has a cameo as the one filming Mystique in Paris.
Cool, I didn't know that. :)
I just saw this movie...as in just walked across the street from the theater to my home. It was awesome! The story was well put together in spite of some holes. The horror of X3 was handled very well and it seems that there is great promise for the future of the franchise. After seeing the movie the Sentinel designs make sense now. I didn't find it as stimulating as Avengers, but nonetheless it was a good watch and there is plenty in the movie to please fanboys.
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Tricky Dicky made up some of my favorite scenes. I couldn't stop laughing. That guy is a great look alike.
Watched the movie this weekend with my girlfriend and had a great moment at the end where she asked me to explain 'apocalypse' and I just went off a fanboy tangent. She is like 'no, dont tell me a story, make it brief'.
"Ok... imagine if Xerxes from 300 was an immortal mutant?"
"Awesome, I want to see that movie!"
I'm wondering what he will be like in the 'movie world' but I'm willing to bet given how scrips get written that he will track down powerful mutants and 'collect powers' as an explanation for him doing all sorts of things.
As for Days of Future Past, I found it to be super enjoyable and it was not too muddy despite a time travel theme. Also Beast is a major character, so that makes me super happy. Peter Dinklage as Bolivar Trask was a great villain, he was neither sadistic (I will torture mutants for fun!) nor sympathetic (mutants killed my wife!) but just purely cold and unfeeling. For sure a different kind of villain you dont see often, and really chilling.
^Like the paralel to Xerxes.Just Apocalyse is a little more ... Straight?
Lu, I like your description of Trask, and you're right. That isn't the type of villain we normally get. I remember thinking something similar during his speech monologue before the finale. He's a man doing something he thinks is important, and everything else pales in comparison. It was interesting.
Trask played out as the perfect villain. Someone who honestly thinks he is helping humanity. It was hard to think of him as the bad guy. This was very well done and well acted.
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The 70s themes were cool. I was impressed with the 70s New York and Paris. Too bad there wasn't much disco music or Friday Night fever, but I guess that may have come later.
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Trask played out as the perfect villain. Someone who honestly thinks he is helping humanity. It was hard to think of him as the bad guy. This was very well done and well acted.
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The 70s themes were cool. I was impressed with the 70s New York and Paris. Too bad there wasn't much disco music or Friday Night fever, but I guess that may have come later.
Yeah, this was only '73, so no Saturday Night fever yet. Disco didn't get big until the mid to late 70s.
Well, the original plan was to go see Captain America, I'm thinking that this is not going to happen now because the family wants to see X-Men:DOFP.
That being the case, are there any Easter Eggs I should keep my eyes out for?
Quote from: Cyber Burn on June 22, 2014, 03:54:44 PM
Well, the original plan was to go see Captain America, I'm thinking that this is not going to happen now because the family wants to see X-Men:DOFP.
That being the case, are there any Easter Eggs I should keep my eyes out for?
There's a scene after the credits. Not much else I can think of that you might miss.
Watched the movie a week ago.
Who cares about continuity,X-men are awessome again.
Actually got to see this and really enjoyed it.
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The only thing I didn't care for was the after-credits scene. I just felt that Apocalypse was not done proper justice.
Otherwise, I don't think anything else left me with any regrets.
I enjoyed it Ok but it didn't really click with me. No Bluray or second watching for me. apparently I surround myself with like minded people because my son , oldest daughter and best friend agree.
Although it was vastly better than TDK. It had the same problem that there wasn't really more I really liked than things I didn't care for or fell flat for me.
I saw The Wolverine a few weeks ago and that got me hype about this movie. I'll probably pick it up when it comes out on Blu-Ray