Freedom Reborn

Freedom Force Forums => Skins => Topic started by: deano_ue on May 24, 2009, 06:35:15 PM

Title: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: deano_ue on May 24, 2009, 06:35:15 PM
This is it guy we have all our entrants and the judges have been selected, this is the thread where you will post your finished assignments, which will have been chosen by the judges

the rules

Quote
  • each pair will be assigned a character and mesh for that round,
  • now the catch if the character has multiple costumes, if you can skin them to the assigned mesh then you have choice in costumes
  • if the mesh has hidden items then you can hex but no skoping.
  • if you win you will progress to the next round of the tournament where you will be given a character
  • characters will be randomly drawn from all sources including avatars
  • all entrys must be new work, if you've skinned the character before you may use elements like extras but the skin but be 90% new work, if questioned you may be asked to show comparison picks
  • you will be given a week's deadline from the day you are given the assignment, so if you get it on a tuesday you have 2 weeks to to complete the skin and get it to the judges, if you miss the deadline you are disqualified and your opponent is give a bia to the next round.
  • if both entrys miss the deadline then both are out of the contest
  • there will be no excuses, but with exception, if something serious in real life happens we're not gonna be heartless
  • the final image must be posted in this thread, no works in progess.
  • the final image must contain a front, side and back view of the skin


now onto judging and marking, the easyiest was to do this is with a group of 3 judges,

  • a judge will mark each entry out of 10 and average of the 3 will be your final score.
    e.g if judge A marks an entry 6, judge B marks it 8 and judge C marks it 4, making 18/30 so 18 divided 3 so the final score is 6/10
  • now a judge can enter the competition his/her self, but they can not mark there own work. to combat this the other two judges will mark the skin out of 20 and divide the total by 2 instead of 3
  • what the judges are looking for are
  • faithfulness to the source
  • use of techniques
  • skill of the artist

  • the judges will each assign the characters


  • The prize for the winner will be a selection of they're skins hosted on hero force, along with a profile and the right to be classed as the skin off champion until the next contest


and now the people who will be basically nitpicking over all your work our judges

Spoiler
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/random/judges.jpg)

and the entrys are

1 Tomato
2 Bildamn22
3 the hitman
4 murs47
5 daglob
6 Xenolith
7 Sayg
8 ultimate_evil
9 jakew
10 flying fox
11 Carravaggio
12 Tap 43


good luck and may the best skinner win
Title: Re: The official skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on May 24, 2009, 07:29:30 PM
I seriously need to update my AV.
Title: Re: The official skin off thread
Post by: Podmark on May 24, 2009, 09:44:09 PM
Two threads with identical names, really UE? :P

Also do we get to see a list of the participants?
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: deano_ue on May 24, 2009, 11:11:38 PM
I don't know what you mean pod, and the list is there.
Title: Re: The official skin off thread
Post by: Tomato on May 25, 2009, 03:04:11 AM
Quote from: House Quake on May 24, 2009, 07:29:30 PM
I seriously need to update my AV.

You need to finish NPI first. Slacker. *shakes fist*

Who's against who first TUE? Me and Billdamn?
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Xenolith on May 25, 2009, 04:15:39 AM
"you will be given a week's deadline from the day you are given the assignment, so if you get it on a tuesday you have 2 weeks to to complete the skin and get it to the judges, if you miss the deadline you are disqualified and your opponent is give a bia to the next round."

I need  some clarification on this.  Is it two weeks or one?  If it's one, you should disqualify me now because there isn't any way I can skin something in a week.  Two weeks is reasonable.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Jakew on May 25, 2009, 04:26:41 AM
Two weeks is a lot better for me, too.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Previsionary on May 25, 2009, 04:45:02 AM
Quote from: Xenolith on May 25, 2009, 04:15:39 AM
"you will be given a week's deadline from the day you are given the assignment, so if you get it on a tuesday you have 2 weeks to to complete the skin and get it to the judges, if you miss the deadline you are disqualified and your opponent is give a bia to the next round."

I need  some clarification on this.  Is it two weeks or one?  If it's one, you should disqualify me now because there isn't any way I can skin something in a week.  Two weeks is reasonable.

It's a fortnight. 14 days. *shakes head at UE* :P
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: deano_ue on May 25, 2009, 04:33:28 PM
it's a fortnight, and the match ups are random, hopefully you should all receive assignments some time soon, i don't want to put all the pressure on the judges, but i also don't want to put out the assignments myself as i have entered and don't want to seem like i'm trying to play favourites 
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Figure Fan on May 25, 2009, 04:48:59 PM
Oh I get it now! The judges image is supposed to resemble the American Idol (or the UK's Pop Idol) show theme :cool:
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: deano_ue on May 25, 2009, 04:53:08 PM
you made that connection not me FF, i'm saying nothing
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: BentonGrey on May 25, 2009, 06:03:39 PM
I wonder which one is Paula Abdul....
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Reepicheep on May 25, 2009, 06:43:49 PM
AA would make a great Simon Cowell.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: The Hitman on May 26, 2009, 06:24:34 PM
Can't wait for this. Creativity is back up a little, gonna actually try on this one!
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Voltimax on May 26, 2009, 06:41:05 PM
Quote from: Reepicheep on May 25, 2009, 06:43:49 PM
AA would make a great Simon Cowell.

That's not a very nice thing to say, since Simon Cowell is totally up his own backside!  :lol:
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Tomato on May 26, 2009, 07:10:56 PM
Quote from: Voltimax on May 26, 2009, 06:41:05 PM
Quote from: Reepicheep on May 25, 2009, 06:43:49 PM
AA would make a great Simon Cowell.

That's not a very nice thing to say, since Simon Cowell is totally up his own backside!  :lol:

We're skinners man. We're all up our own backside  :P.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on May 26, 2009, 10:11:33 PM
The first round should be posted before tommorrow (depending where on Earth you are)  :cool:
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: murs47 on May 28, 2009, 04:34:48 PM
Quote from: House Quake on May 26, 2009, 10:11:33 PM
The first round should be posted before tommorrow (depending where on Earth you are)  :cool:

I guess California is no longer a part of the planet. Does this mean I'm not considered an Earthling anymore? :mellow:
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: BentonGrey on May 28, 2009, 04:58:01 PM
Quote from: murs47 on May 28, 2009, 04:34:48 PM
Quote from: House Quake on May 26, 2009, 10:11:33 PM
The first round should be posted before tommorrow (depending where on Earth you are)  :cool:

I guess California is no longer a part of the planet. Does this mean I'm not considered an Earthling anymore? :mellow:

Were you ever? ;)
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: murs47 on May 28, 2009, 05:29:13 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on May 28, 2009, 04:58:01 PM
Quote from: murs47 on May 28, 2009, 04:34:48 PM
Quote from: House Quake on May 26, 2009, 10:11:33 PM
The first round should be posted before tommorrow (depending where on Earth you are)  :cool:

I guess California is no longer a part of the planet. Does this mean I'm not considered an Earthling anymore? :mellow:

Were you ever? ;)

You make a strong argument.

*enters a deep state of self-reflection*
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Gremlin on May 28, 2009, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: murs47 on May 28, 2009, 05:29:13 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on May 28, 2009, 04:58:01 PM
Quote from: murs47 on May 28, 2009, 04:34:48 PM
Quote from: House Quake on May 26, 2009, 10:11:33 PM
The first round should be posted before tommorrow (depending where on Earth you are)  :cool:

I guess California is no longer a part of the planet. Does this mean I'm not considered an Earthling anymore? :mellow:

Were you ever? ;)

You make a strong argument.

*enters a deep state of self-reflection*

NO CONTEMPLATION FOR YOU.

*poke poke*
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: deano_ue on May 28, 2009, 09:52:13 PM
the judges have made they're choice of meshes and characters, and the pm's have been sent. hopefully everyone got them if they didn't pm me

good luck everyone, lets hope this works
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on May 28, 2009, 10:08:51 PM
OK... had a slight mix up on who and how the contestants where going to be given thier assignments.   :cool:

Yeah... we did the...

"Did you do that?"
"Do what?"
"That there."
"Thought you were gonna do that there."
"I did this.. you were supposed to do that"
"I thought this was that."

:banghead:

We're going to let it be a surprise to see who got what skins/meshes to work with... and who they were going against.  But I will tell you the characters which will be skinned in the 1st round.

Wolverine, Green Arrow, US Agent, Captain Marvel, Luke Cage and Black Hand

We purposely tried to stay consistent with both the complexity of the skins and the mapping/style of the meshes themselves.   Will likely follow a similar pattern in the future as well.  I just don't want any mesher to feel slighted.  It just didn't seam fair in the early stages to use meshes which had distinct mapping vs. others.

Good luck to all.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: deano_ue on May 29, 2009, 07:45:44 AM
to clarify some questions i've been asked

how you produce the skin is entirely up to you, you can use c6 base, gryphon base your own whatever. the basis of this contest to to challenge your own level within a set brief.

also i want to bring up does anyone have a problem with myself entering the contest, if there is i'm stepping to one side. I have no control over anything apart from sending out pm's. the judges pick the characters, meshes and the assignments, but i don't want to cause problems or crap. the last thing this board needs is more whispering behind backs and conspiracy theories 
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: style on May 29, 2009, 12:26:10 PM
This is all for fun we all need to remember that! :thumbup:
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Cyber Burn on May 29, 2009, 02:01:06 PM
I can't think of any reason why TUE shouldn't be able to enter. I really don't think that he'll cheat too bad.  :D


Kidding... don't kill me.

Seriously, though. I'm sure that the judges will keep everything more than fair.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Courtnall6 on May 29, 2009, 02:14:20 PM
Yes...fair...so I guess I should return all those gifts then...
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Xenolith on May 29, 2009, 05:16:05 PM
No problem here.  Its all for fun.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: daglob on May 29, 2009, 08:19:09 PM
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on May 29, 2009, 07:45:44 AM
also i want to bring up does anyone have a problem with myself entering the contest, if there is i'm stepping to one side. I have no control over anything apart from sending out pm's. the judges pick the characters, meshes and the assignments, but i don't want to cause problems or crap. the last thing this board needs is more whispering behind backs and conspiracy theories 

You started the tread because you thought the challenges were fun. You aren't a judge. This way, you get to participate also. Everybody gets to have fun. What could possibly be wrong with that?

But we probably will whisper behind your back anyway.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: murs47 on May 29, 2009, 08:29:26 PM
Quote from: daglob on May 29, 2009, 08:19:09 PM
But we probably will whisper behind your back anyway.

I already do.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Gremlin on May 29, 2009, 09:04:49 PM
Quote from: murs47 on May 29, 2009, 08:29:26 PM
Quote from: daglob on May 29, 2009, 08:19:09 PM
But we probably will whisper behind your back anyway.

I already do.

Yeah but he always talks about cheesecake and how cute he thinks Tomato is, so it's more annoying than anything else.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on June 07, 2009, 08:53:34 PM
tic tok tic tok tic tok
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: murs47 on June 07, 2009, 11:48:09 PM
Quote from: House Quake on June 07, 2009, 08:53:34 PM
tic tok tic tok tic tok

Thursday right? And, do we post our submissions here or PM them to judges?
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Flying_Fox on June 09, 2009, 03:47:06 PM
Going to have to drop out I'm afraid, a new job, a computer crash and getting back into CoH means I won't make the deadline.

Sorry.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Cyber Burn on June 09, 2009, 04:24:25 PM
If you need a last minute entry to fill the spot, I know I'm not really a skinner, but I'll take the assignment if it will help you guys out. Just pm me and let me know.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on June 09, 2009, 05:31:41 PM
Quote from: murs47 on June 07, 2009, 11:48:09 PM
Thursday right? And, do we post our submissions here or PM them to judges?

You can post the submissions in this thread starting Wednesday.  Because of different time zones... we'll be a bit lenient on the deadline.  But all entries should have been posted by the time I wake upFriday.  :cool:

Remember... the final image must contain a front, side and back view of the skin

Quote from: Flying_Fox on June 09, 2009, 03:47:06 PM
Going to have to drop out I'm afraid, a new job, a computer crash and getting back into CoH means I won't make the deadline.

Sorry.
Ehhh... life happens.

But I do ask... if there are any other drops... now is the time to say so.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Xenolith on June 09, 2009, 05:55:36 PM
I don't want to drop, and plan on working on a skin Thursday night (pusing it I know), so if you need a drop, I'll do it.  I thought I'd have more time than I did.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: The Hitman on June 09, 2009, 09:19:45 PM
Just re- installed CTool2 this morning... gonna see if I still have "The Touch." No drops... honest.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Jakew on June 10, 2009, 04:58:07 AM
I'm going to have to drop, unfortunately. I'm half-finished, but I'm buried in work at the moment.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: deano_ue on June 10, 2009, 09:13:30 PM
the drop outs are fine, ironically this works out
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Cyber Burn on June 10, 2009, 11:37:28 PM
I really struggled with the cape, I just couldn't figure out the mapping. This is the first skin I've done in a while, just haven't been motivated. So thanks for giving me a reason to fire up my paint.net again. It was fun. Frustrating, but fun.  :D

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa49/Cyber_Burn_33/CaptainMarvelChallenge1.jpg)
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa49/Cyber_Burn_33/CaptainMarvelChallenge2.jpg)
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa49/Cyber_Burn_33/CaptainMarvelChallenge3.jpg)
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Xenolith on June 11, 2009, 12:00:25 AM
BTW, I just notice my assignment doesn't have a wiremap.  Probably not a big deal for the body, but for the extras, I think I'll need a guide.  I don't want to just paint over a c6 skin, if I can help it.  Any help?
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Previsionary on June 11, 2009, 12:49:26 AM
you can get wireframes for extras from nifskope... usually.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: daglob on June 11, 2009, 02:58:51 AM
Quote from: Xenolith on June 11, 2009, 12:00:25 AM
BTW, I just notice my assignment doesn't have a wiremap.  Probably not a big deal for the body, but for the extras, I think I'll need a guide.  I don't want to just paint over a c6 skin, if I can help it.  Any help?

Mine did't either, so I used regular Male Basic and traced the outlines of the C6 stuff in the Extras file on a separate layer, then filled the C6 bottom with black. Not exactly a wireframe, but it seems to have worked.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb287/lonespaceranger/greenarrow.jpg)

I used reprints of the Jack Kirby run on GA as a source, but, well, I'm no Jack Kirby (I gave up on the knobby knees). About the only bits of Jack left are the upper lip and the chin squiggle. That mask he drew does not work in three dimensons, either. This utilized my own base skin.

I could probably work on it some more, but I don't think it will improve.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: The Hitman on June 11, 2009, 05:34:02 AM
Wow, I didn't realize how rusty I'd gotten after 6 mo. of inactivity... well, here he is:

Spoiler

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/hitmansam/SkinOffWolvieFB.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/hitmansam/SkinOffWolvieLR.png)

I chose the Timmverse base because, well... I like the look. I figured there's enough comic- style Wolvies out there, and a nice X-Men: TAS version would be interesting (And, I assumed I wouldn't get many points for Skill, so I might as well try for Creativity!). As such, my skin is missing belt loops because the TAS Logan didn't have belt loops.

This was a lot of fun, and may have gotten me interested in skinning again! And Great job Cyber and Globby (and everyone after me on this thread)!
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: daglob on June 11, 2009, 06:42:04 AM
I dunno, I kinda like that version of Wolvie. The only criticism I have on Cap is that his cape looks a little dark, otherwise, he looks good. And he kinda resembles Fred MacMurray a little too...
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: detourne_me on June 11, 2009, 07:20:38 AM
Wow! I really like the cartoony skins for Green Arrow and Wolverine!
It's neat.
Cyberburn, you did a nice job too! The black on the gauntlets might be a bit much, but  I'm loving the Fred MacMurray eyebrows!
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on June 11, 2009, 07:52:37 AM
Looking good guys
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Carravaggio on June 11, 2009, 11:27:24 AM
I really do work better under pressure, so handing in my entry on the last day is par for the course.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/lke_cage_V2_ren.jpg)

Luke Cage V2.

Great work from those already submitted, good luck to those still to come. I hope the rest of the entries make it in, I'd hate for the first event like this to fizzle.

Quote from: daglob on June 11, 2009, 02:58:51 AM
Quote from: Xenolith on June 11, 2009, 12:00:25 AM
BTW, I just notice my assignment doesn't have a wiremap.  Probably not a big deal for the body, but for the extras, I think I'll need a guide.  I don't want to just paint over a c6 skin, if I can help it.  Any help?

Mine didn't either


Glad I wasn't the only one  :lol:
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: deano_ue on June 11, 2009, 12:32:05 PM
wire maps can be got with nifskope, i'll post a tut later

should have my entry up some time tonight have to work, thank god for time differences
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Xenolith on June 11, 2009, 12:45:01 PM
Okay, no excuses then.  Mine will be in tonight.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: AfghanAnt on June 11, 2009, 01:35:28 PM
Really great work guys.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: deano_ue on June 11, 2009, 11:34:51 PM
and it's done

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/skins/blackhand.jpg)

now after 2 week i can honestly say i despise this costume and it nearly killed me, i restarted it 4 times :D
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: docdelorean88 on June 11, 2009, 11:44:00 PM
Quote from: The Hitman on June 11, 2009, 05:34:02 AM
Wow, I didn't realize how rusty I'd gotten after 6 mo. of inactivity... well, here he is:

Spoiler

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/hitmansam/SkinOffWolvieFB.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/hitmansam/SkinOffWolvieLR.png)

I chose the Timmverse base because, well... I like the look. I figured there's enough comic- style Wolvies out there, and a nice X-Men: TAS version would be interesting (And, I assumed I wouldn't get many points for Skill, so I might as well try for Creativity!). As such, my skin is missing belt loops because the TAS Logan didn't have belt loops.

This was a lot of fun, and may have gotten me interested in skinning again! And Great job Cyber and Globby (and everyone after me on this thread)!
Now we have something original! X-Men: TAS! I think you have a great skin here and would love to see this continued. Great skins all around gang! Release?
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Courtnall6 on June 11, 2009, 11:48:04 PM
Good work guys :cool:
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Podmark on June 12, 2009, 12:55:08 AM
I'm very happy that people got their entries in. Good stuff guys.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Tomato on June 12, 2009, 01:09:05 AM
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2361/usagent.jpg)

I find it hilarious that even though I know some people got the same char, all posted entries have been different.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on June 12, 2009, 01:35:31 AM
Quote from: Tomato on June 12, 2009, 01:09:05 AM
I find it hilarious that even though I know some people got the same char, all posted entries have been different.
Interesting indeed.

The skins are looking good so far.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Xenolith on June 12, 2009, 03:00:08 AM
I've failed guys.  I'm sorry.  I thought I could swing it in two weeks, but I just never found the time.

What i've seen so far exceeds what I would have been able to do, but I never like to completely drop the ball like this.

Anyway, some really nice stuff here, I'm very impressed.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: murs47 on June 12, 2009, 04:02:56 AM
I've been incredibly busy lately so I didn't have enough time to finish this guy. Sorry about that. Well, here's what I've got:

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7028/lukeh.jpg)
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Renegade on June 12, 2009, 04:08:57 AM
 :wacko: So many Renegade meshes.

For some reason that is kind of freaking me out. :blink:
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: TAP43 on June 12, 2009, 04:19:52 AM
Sorry to freak you out a little more but here is my last minute entry. Also on a Renegade mesh :rolleyes:( hope to see more)
I give you Black Hand, I had hoped to find more time. But between work and R/F I missed finishing up as much detail as I wanted. I missed finishing the feet, but I I was going for the part of his career just before he lost his hand. Hope you(the Judges :P) like it.
                            (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/TAP43/BlackHand1.jpg)
                            (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/TAP43/BlackHand2.jpg)
                            (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/TAP43/BlackHand3.jpg)
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Sayg on June 12, 2009, 06:03:09 AM
Sorry I'm late. Here is my assignment. Thanks for letting me join. It was a fun experience.

Spoiler
(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6052/usagentfront.png)(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5107/usagentside.png)(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5830/usagentback.png)
I used C6's excellent base skins here.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on June 12, 2009, 07:15:26 AM
Quote from: Renegade on June 12, 2009, 04:08:57 AM
:wacko: So many Renegade meshes.

For some reason that is kind of freaking me out. :blink:

For the first round it was a Ren party.  All of the meshes had roughly the same level complexity and were consistent as far as things like mapping and such go. 

From the time this post is dated... the hard deadline will be 4 hrs.  I think it'll be Friday pretty much everywhere concerned by then.  ;)
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: jtharris86 on June 12, 2009, 02:22:56 PM
Fantastic job everyone  :thumbup:
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: The Hitman on June 12, 2009, 02:47:16 PM
Just want to say again, Great Job to everyone. They all look awesome!
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on June 12, 2009, 02:51:41 PM
Quote from: Renegade on June 12, 2009, 04:08:57 AM
:wacko: So many Renegade meshes.

For some reason that is kind of freaking me out. :blink:

Just a testament to how awesome your work is. ;) Great work guys. :thumbup:
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: AfghanAnt on June 13, 2009, 12:53:22 AM
Really stellar work from everyone.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Cyber Burn on June 13, 2009, 06:26:59 PM
I am soooo out of my league here. Really solid entries everyone.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Tomato on June 14, 2009, 01:04:49 AM
Quote from: Cyber Burn on June 13, 2009, 06:26:59 PM
I am soooo out of my league here. Really solid entries everyone.

Don't sell yourself short. You completed work within the time frame, and that's no small feat... I think this is the first contest/challenge I've ever completed to a deadline.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on June 14, 2009, 05:22:41 AM
A few peeps will go to the next round by default.  But there are a couple of real hard choices here.  We're going to deliberate over the next couple of days and will announce the results for round two after that.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on June 17, 2009, 06:38:17 PM
A few crtiques.  Do not call me Simon. Or Paula (though I would luv to get me sum... never mind)

Cyberburn (Captain Marvel)
I'm only some what familiar with Paint.net, it is one of the freebies I've rated as being capable of making decent skins... which is what you've done.  But in direct comparison to competent works done with Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro... it's like coming to a knife fight with a switch blade vs a katanna and a machete.   You have to really be on point.  That said...

My biggest problem is with the line work.  The black lines on the cuffs are a major distraction.  The cuffs themselves are a major distraction.  With the cuffs and the boots as well.. . there is a lack of detail and it seams you over relied on the reflect layer to give some depth.

Overall.. a decent skin.  I think you could have and can do much better much better in the next round.  (which you will make by default)


Daglob (Green Arrow)
You have a lot of subtle things going on here.  But you may have gone too subtle.  When I look close... I can tell where you added some wrinkles and folds to the costume in areas... but you muted them out so much that they aren't noticable unless you concentrate to find them.  Subtle should be easily picked up by the eye on a second glance... and realized it was there all along.   Right now... I still have to go looking for those folds.. even though I know they're there.

The mask didn't work too well for you either.  I think a different approach would have netted better results.


Hitman (Wolverine)
Going foor the animated style was a good idea and for the most part you pulled it off.  but I do have two problems.  The first thing that stood out to me was the black stripping of the costume on his torso.  Its not very crisp... and looks like you beveled it.  Not the best approach.  There are other methods of getting seperation which would have worked better in this instance.

The other problem is that while you did a good job on making every part of his body appear to be more 'animated' version inspired... his exposed face kinda sticks out to me.  He has whiskers.  I think IMO, with the hairless look of his arms and such.... for consistencies sake... the face should have been hairless as well, similiar to his animated incarnations.


I'm going to critique the remainders a bit later as they are the head to head skins which will determine the next round.
We should also have the next round choices I hope by the weekend (real life things notwithstanding)
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: The Hitman on June 17, 2009, 07:27:56 PM
Totally agree. The stripes were actually done with the line tool, but I think I blurred the shading a bit too much. And the whiskers area was a holdover from a previous version I did earlier in the week.

Awesome, can't wait for the next round!
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on June 19, 2009, 12:21:48 AM
Glad I didn't have to ju... umm... dang!  Yes I did!!

The judges all admit that this was pretty difficult to judge.  The judging was based on a 10 point scale and the total score between the three judges determined who advanced.  All I can say is that there were no 10's nor any 1's.  I believe critical critique is essential to improvement and all of this works towards that excellence.  Hopefully each judge will drop a bit of wisdom on the skins in thier own words.... but I'll still give a few highlights about what was said on each skin.

Powerman

Carravaggio - Expected a lot more.  Uninspired.  Yellow and silvers lacked detail...... 5.3
Murs47 - Really wished you had finished.  Nice detail in hair and skin color.  Hopes you finish down the road...... 3.7


Black Hand

Ultimate Evil - Likes the mask and gloves but the rest looks a little average. Too much highlight.... 7
Tap43 - The cloth work is a nice touch. Darker colour works well. Would have liked to see a bit more highlights... 8


US Agent

Tomato - The front is way off center. Average work. Like the shield. The face and the black areas are nice. red looks too over saturated... 6
Sayg - Basic. More work on the gloves and bootcuffs would have got him a higher rating. Too many belt loops... 6.3



2nd Round Will Be

Carravaggio
Tap43
Sayg
Cyberburn
Daglob
Hitman

Next round assignments will be given out in a day or two.  Expect a feminine twist.


A couple of notes.
Tomato... you missed on a critical aspect of detail.  The front of the skin was a distraction and took away from some otherwise pretty good work.
Tap43... your approach was a bit risky, but over all it paid off
Carravaggio... It wasn't down on purpose, but I know personally that Powerman's shirt hit you in your weak area.  Gotta work on the flowing textures more.  If
Sayg... Your skin was pretty much a bit 'too' by the numbers.   Would have liked to see a bit more personality (yours)
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Courtnall6 on June 19, 2009, 01:23:02 AM
Notes:

Tomato: The face doesn't work for me. I know what you were going for...but he looks like he suddenly came across a really bad odour.
Carravaggio: I agree with HQ...work on those flowing textures.
TUE: With the size of the pic...I couldn't really tell what kind of texture you were going with. Maybe a additional zoomed in shot so we have a clearer idea.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: AfghanAnt on June 19, 2009, 02:44:37 AM
Quick bits:

Carr, I loved your facial work (as always) and Murs, the color and sheen of Luke's skin was great.

Tap, your attention to details really won me over.

Sayg, it was really hard to judge your work for me personally because I was unsure of your skill level. I really liked how you handled the black but overall it came off a tab generic. I really would like to see more of you in your work so you don't get lost in the horde.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Previsionary on June 19, 2009, 03:42:16 AM
Well, now that round 1 is over, can I throw out something that may not have been considered in this contest? Looking at some of the output really speaks wonders of how being assigned a character one may not particularly like can affect his/her skills on a skin. So, for future reference, maybe be a bit more mindful of personal preferences and try not to stick so closely to mainstream A/B characters?
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Sayg on June 23, 2009, 04:45:00 AM
I would like to say thanks to the judges for giving their expert critiques. I do agree with all of them. As i mentioned before, i'm not very good at this. That's probably why I still depend a lot on bases and the faces that go with them. Despite all that, there were a couple of reasons why i still decided to join the skin off. One reason was because i wanted to get more practice making skins again. Since I'm very lazy when it comes to skinning, i thought this would be a good way to give me that extra push. The 2 weeks deadline was another part i liked. I've always wondered if i can come up with a decent skin within a short period of time. Lastly, the idea of being assigned a random character appealed to me since i sometimes have a hard time deciding which character to skin.

Ok. I really don't know how i ended up going on to round 2 but it seems like it did. Somehow. So to the judges, all i can say is that i can't promise an improvement overnight but i will certainly try, not to suck too much once again. I am considering trying a different approach but i'm not that confident i can pull it off. Round 2 will be an interesting challenge for me in a way since i haven't really attempted skinning a female character before.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on June 23, 2009, 05:48:06 AM
We'll have the second round match ups and such in a couple of days.  I know AA has been very busy helping to champion a cause as of late and, while I've likewise been busy trying to get the power on in this joint.  :cool:  And well... Court is just... doing the Court thang. He'll probably preview a half dozen skins by the weekend :P
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: AfghanAnt on June 23, 2009, 01:12:26 PM
Quote from: Sayg on June 23, 2009, 04:45:00 AM
I would like to say thanks to the judges for giving their expert critiques. I do agree with all of them. As i mentioned before, i'm not very good at this. That's probably why I still depend a lot on bases and the faces that go with them. Despite all that, there were a couple of reasons why i still decided to join the skin off. One reason was because i wanted to get more practice making skins again. Since I'm very lazy when it comes to skinning, i thought this would be a good way to give me that extra push. The 2 weeks deadline was another part i liked. I've always wondered if i can come up with a decent skin within a short period of time. Lastly, the idea of being assigned a random character appealed to me since i sometimes have a hard time deciding which character to skin.

Ok. I really don't know how i ended up going on to round 2 but it seems like it did. Somehow. So to the judges, all i can say is that i can't promise an improvement overnight but i will certainly try, not to suck too much once again. I am considering trying a different approach but i'm not that confident i can pull it off. Round 2 will be an interesting challenge for me in a way since i haven't really attempted skinning a female character before.

I don't think any of us is expecting you to change over night but of me personally I'd like to see some manipulation of the base. Try to make if you own by changing the eyes or adding depth to it.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Sayg on June 24, 2009, 04:48:35 AM
Quote from: AfghanAnt on June 23, 2009, 01:12:26 PM
I don't think any of us is expecting you to change over night but of me personally I'd like to see some manipulation of the base. Try to make if you own by changing the eyes or adding depth to it.
Thanks AA, your suggestion is very much appreciated.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: House Quake on July 13, 2009, 10:52:13 PM
Just thought it important to make a quick notice concerning the skin off we started.  I'm pretty sure I can speak for the judges when I say we haven't forgotten or jst dumped the idea...... we simply postponed it for a while.   Our collective focus, along side another dozen or so skinners, meshers, skopers etc our sites up and running.  New Power INC is up... but far from being completed, while looooong anticipated Champions of Freedom inches ever closer to its debut.  and trust me... you won't be disappointed with all the goodies the guys are putting together.

The Skin Off will be back... 
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: Podmark on July 14, 2009, 05:15:57 AM
Honest - I totally forgot about it. I do look forward to it's return.
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: murs47 on February 15, 2010, 05:10:19 AM
7 month bump! :ph34r:
Title: Re: The first Freedom Reborn skin off thread
Post by: area34 on February 15, 2010, 05:57:36 AM
If there is going to another Skin-Off I'd been interested in taking part. I like the idea of doing a random skin that I have no attachment to the character. I think it would be good practice.