The Graysons are Coming to The CW

Midnite · October 01, 2008, 10:10:24 AM

The Graysons are Coming to The CW

This is going to fail big time. . . :thumbdown:

BWPS · October 01, 2008, 10:41:10 AM

Maybe it'll be a show about a family of Acrobats who don't fight crime. Sounds completely uninteresting.

Or maybe it'll take place after his family is killed and he'll be fighting crime before he meets Batman. Sounds unlikely given the plural of the name.

Or maybe it will be completely about an acrobat kid who fights crime for some reason and his family and have little to do with the source material.

It'll probably suck and the CW is all fuzzy on my TV now anyway.

Boalt92 · October 01, 2008, 11:15:54 AM

Quote from: Midnite on October 01, 2008, 10:10:24 AM
The Graysons are Coming to The CW

This is going to fail big time. . . :thumbdown:

I don't think you're giving it enough credit...

...throw out a bunch of teen heart-throbs with cheesy 90210/Soap Opera plot twists and you'll have a long-running hit.

B92

or was that Dawson's Creek?

the_ultimate_evil · October 01, 2008, 11:21:36 AM

so what, its a circus show cause correct me if i'm wrong but that's all there was pre-robin, dear god this sounds bad

The Hitman · October 01, 2008, 12:44:00 PM

Awful. Just awful.

*Announcer Voice*

"Coming in 2010 from the CW:

You know him as the cocky red- headed Green Lantern from Earth. Now watch as he battles his fiercest adversary yet- PUBERTY. That's right, folks... it's-

Guy Gardner- The Early Years.

Only on The CW: Where Good Comic Book Characters Come To Die."

bat1987 · October 01, 2008, 03:39:29 PM

DJ Grayson? :huh:

But I`m still interested in seeing it.

BentonGrey · October 01, 2008, 03:49:56 PM

This should be Aquaman or nothing. What is wrong with these people?

Ajax · October 01, 2008, 04:42:25 PM

Quote from: BentonGrey on October 01, 2008, 03:49:56 PM
This should be Aquaman or nothing. What is wrong with these people?

Yes cause nothing says sales like a character who can't maintain a solo series. :rolleyes: Robin has lasted longer than all the Aquaman comics, combined. Plus the character is more well known among the general non-comic book reading audience which this is marketed toward. Remember nothing on TV or movies is marketed toward the comic book fan. We are a small demographic that barely keeps our own industry afloat, there is no way they are going to bank on us for ticket sales, ratings, and etc.

Uncle Yuan · October 01, 2008, 04:42:39 PM

It's hard to see how this can work without totally gorking the character. Dick was what, 12, when he hooked up with Batman? Are they suggesting that Dick had completed significant amounts of training before his parents got killed? That he was 18-20 when he became Robin? None of which even remotely resembles his story as it exists today.

Smallville works because the period before Clark becomes Superman has never been defined (if we accept the various "no Superboy" retcons). No such period exists for Dick Grayson except childhood and maybe very early adolescence.

BentonGrey · October 01, 2008, 06:23:53 PM

Actually Ajax, you may or may not know this, but the unaired Aquaman pilot showed every signs of being the first step to a very successful series. People were interested, the show itself was a good starting point, with an inventive re-imagining that stayed true to the heart of the character, and competent, if not stellar, actors. It was the most highly downloaded TV show on itunes for a month or two when it was finally released. It showed every evidence of the ability to succeed in the same way Smallville did, but unfortunately for us......never got the chance. As far as his profile in the general public, I would argue (and I feel fairly confident in doing so) that he is actually fairly well known. This is a two-edged sword, however, as his fame springs largely from Superfriends, although he has a resurgence of public awareness thanks to Smallville.

Previsionary · October 01, 2008, 06:47:55 PM

Benton is pretty accurate with all things related to that lame fish guy. I mean, Aquaman. He's probably off complaining to a whale about such a let down since his show, which starred the fairly talented Justin H, wasn't picked up for some reason.

You guys are all so critical! This show will rock the socks off America for a whole season...and then season 2 will come and it'll be canceled. I mean, we'll get such great stories like Dick walking a tightrope and almost falling to his doom! We'll find out that the Graysons aren't just what meets the eye, but something so much more! Um...we'll get cameos by Bruce who we'll find out was scouting Dick for awhile before randomly grabbing the orphan kid off the street! And the season 1 finale will be Dick's parents dying!!!!! OMGAH! OMGAH, guys! OMGAH!

*falls asleep*

Jakew · October 01, 2008, 06:56:34 PM

Dick "DJ" Grayson???

"In the one-hour "Graysons," which will be set in modern times, young DJ will face challenges involving first loves, young rivals and his family as he grows up. Souders and Peterson have come up with an original take on the character."

Wow ... who came up with this idea? Let's do a show as loosely associated with Batman as possible, and mix in some Beveryly Hills 90210 angst ... genius! Maybe we can do a series about one of Selena Kyle's cats ... only we never refer to her as Catwoman ... hmmm.

After Smallville and Birds of Prey, you'd think they'd have an understanding of what works and what doesn't.

Talavar · October 01, 2008, 07:26:49 PM

This sounds terrible, but then, I keep hearing people say Smallville works, and wonder 'since when?' so I guess I'm not the target audience.

BentonGrey · October 01, 2008, 07:46:41 PM

*Kills Prev........again*

RTTingle · October 01, 2008, 08:06:46 PM

I can't believe I'm going to defend this...

I think this has potential. Considering how Smallville leaned heavy on the kryptonite freak of the week... I see the Graysons having some of that as well and certainly no worse.

A circus would be a very interesting backdrop... I used it in one of my short stories here. There is a lot you could do with a circus backdrop --- instead of the kryptonite freaks... circus freaks. Not only that, but a different location every week. The circus almost has a romantic side to it --- the spectacle and skills of the people on stage... then the dark and mysterious side behind the scenes.

I actually see this series having a lot of potential and being very interesting week to week with a lot of possible story ideas.

The idea makes me cringe at first, but the more and more I think about it... I'd actually give it a shot.

RTT

Alaric · October 01, 2008, 08:31:32 PM

Quote from: RTTingle on October 01, 2008, 08:06:46 PM
I can't believe I'm going to defend this...

I think this has potential. Considering how Smallville leaned heavy on the kryptonite freak of the week... I see the Graysons having some of that as well and certainly no worse.

A circus would be a very interesting backdrop... I used it in one of my short stories here. There is a lot you could do with a circus backdrop --- instead of the kryptonite freaks... circus freaks. Not only that, but a different location every week. The circus almost has a romantic side to it --- the spectacle and skills of the people on stage... then the dark and mysterious side behind the scenes.

I actually see this series having a lot of potential and being very interesting week to week with a lot of possible story ideas.

The idea makes me cringe at first, but the more and more I think about it... I'd actually give it a shot.

RTT

Yes, but where, in all of that, would it have to be about Dick Grayson? Couldn't you do all of that just as effectively, maybe better, and make it about entirely new characters? Especially if the only thing from the established version of the character they end up using is the circus background.

Although... Maybe it's a sign that these characters are begining to be interesting to people outside of their superheroic sides. Imagine a series about Peter Parker where he isn't Spider-Man, but is otherwise based closely on the "classic" comic-book version of the character, or a series about a young Steve Rogers growing up, or young genius Bruce Banner growing up, with a father who hates him... There could be an audience for all of these things, I suppose, even without the super hero angle. These are, after all, well-created characters, with detailed backgrounds... Still, this "Graysons" thing seems a little strange to me...

Uncle Yuan · October 02, 2008, 03:28:50 AM

But there will be a superhero angle. There'll be acrobatics and flip kicks and daring do and the show will end up maintaining the 95% of the skills Dick needed to become Robin he learned at the circus.

Jakew · October 02, 2008, 03:55:06 AM

I wonder what villains they can use ....?

BWPS · October 02, 2008, 06:38:24 AM

Quote from: Jakew on October 02, 2008, 03:55:06 AM
I wonder what villains they can use ....?

Evil clowns infected with some kind of toxin/serum/virus.

And why are they calling him DJ? Did he ever use that nickname in the comics. I mean, what's with Hollywood changing... Oh yeah, his name is Dick. Never mind, good call.

Previsionary · October 02, 2008, 06:54:24 AM

Quote from: BWPS on October 02, 2008, 06:38:24 AM
Quote from: Jakew on October 02, 2008, 03:55:06 AM
I wonder what villains they can use ....?
Evil clowns infected with some kind of toxin/serum/virus.

And why are they calling him DJ? Did he ever use that nickname in the comics. I mean, what's with Hollywood changing... Oh yeah, his name is Dick. Never mind, good call.

His name is Rich. Rich John Grayson. I'll call him "RJ". ^^

the_ultimate_evil · October 02, 2008, 07:57:23 AM

Quote from: Previsionary on October 01, 2008, 06:47:55 PM
Benton is pretty accurate with all things related to that lame fish guy. I mean, Aquaman. He's probably off complaining to a whale about such a let down since his show, which starred the fairly talented Justin H, wasn't picked up for some reason.

You guys are all so critical! This show will rock the socks off America for a whole season...and then season 2 will come and it'll be canceled. I mean, we'll get such great stories like Dick walking a tightrope and almost falling to his doom! We'll find out that the Graysons aren't just what meets the eye, but something so much more! Um...we'll get cameos by Bruce who we'll find out was scouting Dick for awhile before randomly grabbing the orphan kid off the street! And the season 1 finale will be Dick's parents dying!!!!! OMGAH! OMGAH, guys! OMGAH!

*falls asleep*

seriously dude lay off the sugar

JeyNyce · October 07, 2008, 02:35:19 PM

Since Supergirl is no longer on smallville, they should take that actress (can't remember her name) dye her hair black and make a show for Wonder Woman: the early years. I rather see WW than "DJ"

catwhowalksbyhimself · October 07, 2008, 03:19:30 PM

I don't know about her as WW, but a show featuring a young WW would be cool. Also, since the Legion of Superheroes will be appearing on Smallville anyway, a spin off of them starting off (as I recall they were all rather young anyway) could be cool.

Dick Grayson, not so much.

BentonGrey · October 07, 2008, 05:02:41 PM

You know Cat, that is actually an excellent idea. If they want to do a youth-based show, that would be perfect, and, believe it or not, canonical!

cmdrkoenig67 · October 07, 2008, 10:59:27 PM

Yeah...A LSH teen series makes far more sense than "The Graysons"...Bleh...Who cares.

Dana :rolleyes:

Kholdstare89 · October 09, 2008, 05:44:38 AM

This whole thing with CW creating shows about teenaged superheroes reminds me a lot of this parody

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6OCbAnI51g

BWPS · October 09, 2008, 06:00:31 AM

Quote from: Kholdstare89 on October 09, 2008, 05:44:38 AM
This whole thing with CW creating shows about teenaged superheroes reminds me a lot of this parody

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6OCbAnI51g

Haha.

JeyNyce · October 12, 2008, 06:56:51 AM

Quote from: Kholdstare89 on October 09, 2008, 05:44:38 AM
This whole thing with CW creating shows about teenaged superheroes reminds me a lot of this parody

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6OCbAnI51g

:lol:

docdelorean88 · October 15, 2008, 11:12:36 AM

Quote from: Talavar on October 01, 2008, 07:26:49 PM
This sounds terrible, but then, I keep hearing people say Smallville works, and wonder 'since when?' so I guess I'm not the target audience.

You want to know why Smallville is the only super hero secret identity/early years show that works?
Because HE HAS SUPER POWERS!!! think about it, young clark kent learns how to develope his abilities. If "DJ", that bugs me, tried to develope his abilities he will be cancled in 1 and 1/2 seasons. A more real reason smallville works is because Superman has an alternate identity that is frequently covered. However, his past has rarely come up in popular media.
How can you give a side kick of the age 15 a past? he is in his past! I mean if the pilot is 2 year old DJ Grayson learning how to walk, then i hope it gets cancled. Oh, yeah. Did i mention since his parents are circies they would be teaching him how to walk, but on a tight rope.
"Oh, he's been crawling the tight rope for weeks! We're so proud of him."

I am, however, willing to watch it when it comes on. And if I am desperately wrong i will publicly post my appology here.

Talavar · October 15, 2008, 12:34:09 PM

Quote from: docdelorean88 on October 15, 2008, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: Talavar on October 01, 2008, 07:26:49 PM
This sounds terrible, but then, I keep hearing people say Smallville works, and wonder 'since when?' so I guess I'm not the target audience.
You want to know why Smallville is the only super hero secret identity/early years show that works?
Because HE HAS SUPER POWERS!!! think about it, young clark kent learns how to develope his abilities. If "DJ", that bugs me, tried to develope his abilities he will be cancled in 1 and 1/2 seasons. A more real reason smallville works is because Superman has an alternate identity that is frequently covered. However, his past has rarely come up in popular media.
How can you give a side kick of the age 15 a past? he is in his past! I mean if the pilot is 2 year old DJ Grayson learning how to walk, then i hope it gets cancled. Oh, yeah. Did i mention since his parents are circies they would be teaching him how to walk, but on a tight rope.
"Oh, he's been crawling the tight rope for weeks! We're so proud of him."

I am, however, willing to watch it when it comes on. And if I am desperately wrong i will publicly post my appology here.

No, I don't wonder why Smallville works, I think it doesn't work. I think it was a poor show that's gotten worse with every successive season. I acknowledge that it is successful, but I do not think it works.