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Some hints at what NOT to expect in the game...

Started by RTTingle, August 19, 2007, 10:10:05 AM

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RTTingle

Howdy Folks!

Lots of speculation lately over new features and Positron posted a message scratching a few ideas of the list...

QuoteThis is NOT the feature you have been asking for. The feature in question is one you've been asking for LONGER than you've been asking for Server Transfers.

QuoteAny chance you can eliminate one or two things on the list?

QuoteI'll do eight. That still leaves a lot of really good stuff on the list.

Weather

Too much art for no add to gameplay. We may get into stuff like rain, but if the streets are not slick, it just wouldn't fit. Plus if weather had gameplay (like fire powers reduced in rain, wind affecting Archery, etc.) while cool, I can't see it as fun. People would just avoid weather when it didn't sync with their powers.

Thats a shame, but I understand the whole gameplay value issue.  I don't buy his reasoning for it though.  While he can't see it as fun, considering peoples reactions to the two Winter events, I think he's really out of touch with this one and what people consider fun.  I'd like to see them take small steps towards this and apply it in small mission maps at least.  This pulp hero would love to be sitting atop the buildings looking down on the streets of a dangerous city on a dark & stormy night.

QuotePowerset Respecs

While this may happen within your Archetype someday (i.e. a Fire/Devices Blaster becomes an Energy/Energy Blaster), don't hold your breath. A lot of the thinking comes in the "we give you 8 (or 12) character slots per server", which should be enough to create alts of whatever power combos you want, without destroying a character you invested time and effort into. Probably not the most popular answer.

I'm with Positron on this one.  I don't see this as really needed.  Now... more slots, thats another story.  ;)

QuotePositron TF redone

Yeah, it's a lousy TF. It's the first one we ever did, it's due for a revamp, but that's not coming anytime soon. For the time being there will still be reason to brag about having the "I endured Positron's TF and all I got was this lousy badge" badge.

I honestly think this is a bragging point for Positron at this point and something he finds a lot of personal entertainment in.  Chances are high he is sitting at his own terminal, watching everyone that comes up to him for his TF and him watching with personal glee and a bag of popcorn in hand as they tackle this taskforce.  Its like Crash and burn reality television for him.

QuoteUnderwater Zones

We'd rather do Space Station Gagarin or the Armstrong Moon Base.

My heart breaks at this.  The chance for them to add something truly new and unique to COX and they skip it.  Thanks for the big fat hint in whats coming though, much appreciated.  Im sure this'll be fun and all... but all I picture is a new loading screen that shows a rocket launching... maybe a cinema screen of a launch control room... and a lot of new artwork for these zones --- more indoor base maps.  Whoopie.

I'm really hoping they at least give us the
Quoteillusion
of space though.  Example... the Pocket D.  Give us a central zone local thats a central space station with these huge windows that we can look out into space and see stuff floating around like asteroids and assorted spacejunk and mission doors to various moon bases, etc with the same illusions of space.

Wait a second.  Why couldn't they do something like that with an underwater base?  Hell, I've seen the shark models used in small bodies of water.  Damnit.  Lazy asses.  I'm really, really disappointed by this.

QuoteVehicles

We discussed this recently and couldn't justify putting it in. Vehicles would either be really good (then it becomes City of Jet Bikes), or boring (my Jet Bike isn't faster than Fly). The effort to put them in simply wouldn't equate with what you got out of them. This is why wings took so long. When the effort DID equate with what you got out of them, they went in.

Ok, I'm calling horse pockey on this too.  You don't want to put it in because it would be
Quotetoo
good and you're afraid of it being used too much?  The effort to actually put it in the game, is too much compared to as what we got out of it?  This is why wings took so long?

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.  Wings took so long because you guys all wanted it to be part of the inventions system.  Speaking of putting in what you get out of it.  The smartest decision you all made in regards to this was at least making the regular and demon wings available outside of inventions --- as long as you had been subscriped to the game for at least 15 months.

I have to toss my emotes argument into this one.  No reason why small vehicles as emotes or temporary powers inventions, like a sprint, shouldn't be in this game.  Vehicles would have the same gameplay value as wings would in an inventions system or at least as much as new emotes gameplay value would be.

I'm really starting to question Positron and gangs decisions and beyond free weekends, I don't see myself coming back to COX anytime soon on a permanent basis based on their decisions lately.

Damnit Cryptic... if I so much as see this in Marvels game, or DC's and not in your OWN original world that paved the way for their games with their worlds and showed it could be profitable and there was a market for it... I am going to be ticked!

QuoteAI System Overhaul

Too risky of completely breaking the game in some obscure way. Tweaks sure, an overhaul, not likely.

I'm ok with this.  I understand, but I wanna keep seeing them doing what they can to tweak it.  New art,  new zones, new mobs with some cool powers can only go so far.  I want to see some challenge to Mobs other than increasing the amount.  Quality opponents --- not quantity, y'know?  Sadly I just can't enjoy PVP, between the jerks and having to tweak certain powersets to certain specs to do so - I have no interest in it. 

To me... this is the biggest problem I have with COX and why I won't be back anytime soon.  All the other stuff is nice, and ok... but beyond the free weekends, they just won't hold my interest or get me to put my money back into it.  And believe me, putting down $15 a month for a game is NO issue whatsoeever especially if I can enjoy it anytime I want for a whole month, compare to when a movie is like $10 for 2 hours lately.

QuoteAbility to unslot enhancements without a respec

We like the Bind on Equip mentallity. The fact you can un-slot them during a respec is a conceit that this really isn't "equipment" per se. Different power combinations take different Enhacements, so we could either screw you during the respec process (i.e. if you can't slot it, you lose it) or let you keep some in your Inventory slots. We erred on the side of "nice" with this one.

Nah, I'm with them on this one.

QuoteFitness Pool becoming an inherent

We've tried to make Stamina less a required power with a lot of the things IO's do. Any discussion on Stamina generally leads to the elimination of Endurance altogether (because a lot of the reason Staminia is so popular is that is lets you no longer worry about Endurance for the most part). i.e. Making Stamina an inherent means we might as well eliminate Endurance from the game.

I'm with them on this one too.

Well... how do you guys all feel about this?

RTT

captainspud

I'm fine with that. Implementing any of those things would take a lot of time and would be expected to appease us for a time.

I'd much rather they stop making decorations and start giving us some real meat-- a new AT, new powersets, epic-epic content, what have you. I'm getting really, really bored with the game, and unless I11 brings fresh gameplay with it, I'm not renewing my subscription.

RTTingle

Quote from: captainspud on August 19, 2007, 10:39:26 AM
I'm fine with that. Implementing any of those things would take a lot of time and would be expected to appease us for a time.

I'd much rather they stop making decorations and start giving us some real meat-- a new AT, new powersets, epic-epic content, what have you. I'm getting really, really bored with the game, and unless I11 brings fresh gameplay with it, I'm not renewing my subscription.

New ATs and powersets are definately preferable.  Always.  I thought those things would be constantly added to the game.  I'm a bit saddened at how they haven't been able to do such.

RTT