GLC - Sinestro Corps War - Why isn't the Corps Allowed to kill?

[B A D]

As they like to say, Times Change.
"Funnybooks" as a rule haven't been for kids for decades. We've had defile, murder, more defile,  etc in mainstream comics for years.

So I guess that means we should continue down the spiraling slide of doom? Looking forward to reading the defilement of Little Dot next week.

No,  and thanx for taking it to an incredibly useless extreme. The Corps ARE represented as the ulitmate source of law enforcement in the galaxy. With that comes the responsiblility that sometimes the public safety advocates the use of lethal force.  I'm not advocating that the Corps be allowed to kill willy nilly , and in all cases. What I am saying is that in this instance, where the entire existence of the corps is at stake, It is neccesary to respond in kind. If the Corps is wiped out of existence, who  protects the sectors?

[Agent]

My problem with the argument is I don't see why being able to try to kill SC members automatically means they'll do better in the war.  Is just saying, "Go try and kill that guy." really that great a strategy.  After all, trying to kill someone and actually killing them are to seperate things.

And as I mentioned before, if the SC rings work the same as the GL rings, killing the owner just results in the ring finding a replacement.  You really haven't gained that much.  If the goal is to reduce the number SC members then killing them doesn't seem like it would be that effective.

[psychopanda]

As they like to say, Times Change.
"Funnybooks" as a rule haven't been for kids for decades. We've had defile, murder, more defile,  etc in mainstream comics for years.

So I guess that means we should continue down the spiraling slide of doom? Looking forward to reading the defilement of Little Dot next week.

No,  and thanx for taking it to an incredibly useless extreme. The Corps ARE represented as the ulitmate source of law enforcement in the galaxy. With that comes the responsiblility that sometimes the public safety advocates the use of lethal force.  I'm not advocating that the Corps be allowed to kill willy nilly , and in all cases. What I am saying is that in this instance, where the entire existence of the corps is at stake, It is neccesary to respond in kind. If the Corps is wiped out of existence, who  protects the sectors?

Almost as useless as requiring the GL Corps to use lethal force (if necessary) in order to further one's enjoyment of the series?

Edit: added bold as needed

[B A D]

No, not at all. Im opining on a subject using reason. You're making a huge leap  based on that argument that I want to see everyone in comics wielding Mac -10's and disembowling people, which is patently untrue. I've even kept the parameters for the Lantern's using lethal force to  narrow confines. If you have a valid rebuttal to my thesis, by all means  make it. But leave the histrionics for another thread, please.

[Ajax]

If the Corps uses lethal force they will run out of baddies to police the universe against and that will put them out of a job. Plus if they use lethal force the event will be alot shorter and DC wants to milk this or they might be trying to draw a line between them and Marvel.

[B A D]

Once again, with feeling.  I am NOT advocating that the Corps be allowed to go around and Clint Eastwood  everybody. What I AM suggesting in this  set of EXTREME circumstances, it seems rather foolish to not be able to retaliate in kind against an organized and uniformed  effort to completely exterminate you. This isn't an intergalactic purse robber they're up against. Not only is this the  Sinestro Corps, but its the Manhunters, Cyborg Superman, Superboy Prime (the one who killed like 34 lanterns the last time he was out) and to top all that off, The Anti Monitor. Also if the prophecy is true, then they'll soon be dealing with The Children of the White lobe, and those Icky weirdo things that made Abin Sur go splody. Let me reverse gears and ask the question: In what set of circumstances do you feel that a Lantern would be justified in using lethal force against an individual?

[Ajax]

I was just kidding, sorry my e-tone didn't come through BAD. :D

Though I will answer your question. The amount of force the lanterns apply should be less than or equal to the amount of force being used against them.

[Sword]

The corps don't get it: when one of them is killed, the ring flies back to their sector to find a new host. but in the Sin Corps, it takes months of training and fear displacement treatments before they even get the ring.

So if a GLC guy pops a SIn Corpsman, the ring just falls inert.

[lugaru]

If the Corps uses lethal force they will run out of baddies to police the universe against and that will put them out of a job. Plus if they use lethal force the event will be alot shorter and DC wants to milk this or they might be trying to draw a line between them and Marvel.

With all the brain blasting, wife raping, decapitation and pepole ripped in half... I have a hard time thinking of DC as the wholesome universe.

[Agent]

I was just kidding, sorry my e-tone didn't come through BAD. :D

Though I will answer your question. The amount of force the lanterns apply should be less than or equal to the amount of force being used against them.

Don't you mean more than or equal to?

[daglob]

I don't remember where I read it, whether it was in a book about Jame Bond or what, nor who wrote it, so it may not be cannon, but...

Just becasue Jame Bond is licensed to kill in the pursuit of his missions does not mean that there will be NO repercussions. He, and all 00 agents have their actions reviewed (like a board of inquiry for policemen), and, if his actions are deemed innappropriate, his license will be suspended. He won't be punished or prosecuted for his actions (that is to say, killings), but he will no longer have full approval to kill whoever he deems necessary in the course of his mission.

I wonder if there is a License to Wound? Anyway, it sounds logical. Police and even the military have a code of conduct that they must follow, and being able to kill, but not kill indiscriminately, is part of it.

anyway, to kinda separate things a little...

I considered the GL's in general and while I would hate (Hate HATE, HATEHATEHATE) for Hal to kill (and I know he went crazy and did just that; I hated it 'cause it was STOOPID), I probably wouldn't mind if Guy did. It is a difference in their personalities (When I did Guy in FF, I gave him a HTH manuever is is very obviosly a knee to the groin). I'd be sad if Killowog did, not too unhappy if John did. In my mind, however, Tomar-Re would NEVER kill.

English police now have special weapons units, but for years the officer on the beat had no handgun (but one of those truncheons-Ouch!).

The thing is, very few super-VILLAINS have a code against killing. Some, just don't. And all those crooks with guns that shoot at Batman-they aren't trying to shoot over his head just to scare him. Same for the thugs who shoot at Spider-Man and Daredevil-they aren't hoping to just wing 'em and have them hobble off into the Spider-Cave or the Fortress of Fearlessness while they make their getaway.
Throughout the Silver Age, a lot of the bad guys were, without making a big deal out of it, trying to KILL the heroes. All the while, the heroes were trying to bring the villains to Justice (the police, gendarmes, some kind of centralized law enforcement). I am sure that it has been pointed out before that this hamstrings the hero, but hey, the hero knew the rules when he took the job.
There are a few villains, like Doc Doom, who may not want to kill their enemies. Having them humiliated, in chains, dragged through the streets to grovel at his feet and publically admit that Doom was in every way his superior? About right. I think the Red Skull would rather have Cap alive and suffering as he (The Skull) tore down everything that Cap ever fought for, rather than just kill Cap and get it done with.  This isn't bad writing, these are examples of characters so twisted that their hatred or jealousy have overridden their common sense and survival instinct.

And all this about characters that don't even exist...

[yell0w_lantern]

At its basic level, war is killing until one side gives up or is eliminated. I think since DC is billing it as a "war" we will see some more GLs killing but it will come after a dramatic scene with the blue guys.

[Sword]

I think I should point out that the "No Lethal Force" clause was repealed for Superboy Prime, and that order was never rescinded. Since SBP is part of the Sinestro Corps, Lethal Force should be allowed.

[daglob]

I would kinda like it if the Guardians repealed the No Killing rule, then some of the GLs deliberately chose not to anyway.