goes anyone know of a mesh with gloves not the big cap amaerica kind but standard wrist gloves trying to ad them to my av's mesh

Try the boostergold (tommys i think) it might have what your looking for :D

There's at least one Vertex mesh with those.

yeah i tryed the vx havoc mesh but the gloves are attached to the male_basic

Then switch out the male_basic w/ the Havoc vx male_basic ^_^