The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes

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kkhohoho

Quote from: BentonGrey on October 06, 2010, 03:37:03 PM
Now that one was just straight up awesome.  I love how they're portraying Bucky, and that voice is perfect for him.

Perhaps, but personally, I'm reminded too much of Robin for obvious reasons.
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Quote from: kkhohoho on October 06, 2010, 07:27:00 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on October 06, 2010, 03:37:03 PM
Now that one was just straight up awesome.  I love how they're portraying Bucky, and that voice is perfect for him.

Perhaps, but personally, I'm reminded too much of Robin for obvious reasons.

Yeah, but Robin was the only good thing about that cartoon. ;)  Seriously though, I feel like it fits Bucky quite well, but getting past that deja vu is necessary to enjoy it.  I imagine it won't be too much of an issue, since Bucky almost certainly won't have much of a role in the main show.
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Quote from: BentonGrey on October 06, 2010, 08:22:52 PM
Yeah, but Robin was the only good thing about that cartoon. ;)  Seriously though, I feel like it fits Bucky quite well, but getting past that deja vu is necessary.  I imagine it won't be too much of an issue, since Bucky almost certainly won't have much of a role in the main show.

Bucky is there as part of the flashback for story purposes but the same actor is slated as doing the voice for Winter Soldier as well. I'm sure long term plans will include a story arc that deals with a whole Steve Rogers being killed in action or removed from the uniform arc and Barnes taking over the role (not too sure they will adapt The Captain/U.S. Agent/John Walker story as a whole from the comics). I'm hoping they do have John Walker show up as a soldier and eventually becomes U.S. Agent somehow - maybe when they have a storyline that deals with the military recreating the super soldier process.

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Quote from: crimsonquill on October 06, 2010, 08:39:10 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on October 06, 2010, 08:22:52 PM
Yeah, but Robin was the only good thing about that cartoon. ;)  Seriously though, I feel like it fits Bucky quite well, but getting past that deja vu is necessary.  I imagine it won't be too much of an issue, since Bucky almost certainly won't have much of a role in the main show.

Bucky is there as part of the flashback for story purposes but the same actor is slated as doing the voice for Winter Soldier as well. I'm sure long term plans will include a story arc that deals with a whole Steve Rogers being killed in action or removed from the uniform arc and Barnes taking over the role (not too sure they will adapt The Captain/U.S. Agent/John Walker story as a whole from the comics). I'm hoping they do have John Walker show up as a soldier and eventually becomes U.S. Agent somehow - maybe when they have a storyline that deals with the military recreating the super soldier process.

- CQ

:blink:

You're kidding me...they've got info out there for a Winter Soldier casting?  Gah!  I thought they were loosely following classic Avengers stories....we should be years and years from that mess.
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kkhohoho

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Quote from: BentonGrey on October 06, 2010, 08:44:40 PM
Quote from: crimsonquill on October 06, 2010, 08:39:10 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on October 06, 2010, 08:22:52 PM
Yeah, but Robin was the only good thing about that cartoon. ;)  Seriously though, I feel like it fits Bucky quite well, but getting past that deja vu is necessary.  I imagine it won't be too much of an issue, since Bucky almost certainly won't have much of a role in the main show.

Bucky is there as part of the flashback for story purposes but the same actor is slated as doing the voice for Winter Soldier as well. I'm sure long term plans will include a story arc that deals with a whole Steve Rogers being killed in action or removed from the uniform arc and Barnes taking over the role (not too sure they will adapt The Captain/U.S. Agent/John Walker story as a whole from the comics). I'm hoping they do have John Walker show up as a soldier and eventually becomes U.S. Agent somehow - maybe when they have a storyline that deals with the military recreating the super soldier process.

- CQ

:blink:

You're kidding me...they've got info out there for a Winter Soldier casting?  Gah!  I thought they were loosely following classic Avengers stories....we should be years and years from that mess.

They are loosely following them--for the most part. They've already been taking bits and pieces from others aspects of the Marvel U;  a prison breakout getting the Avengers together, (New Avengers,) Hawkeye and Black Widow being SHIELD agents from the start, (Ultimates,) Iron Man and his supporting cast in general, (the films,)  etc. Still, I have to say that I find this particular show quite enthralling. So long as they pass over some of the more grievous...'misteps', 616 or otherwise, we should be good. :)
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Quote from: BentonGrey on October 06, 2010, 08:44:40 PM
:blink:

You're kidding me...they've got info out there for a Winter Soldier casting?  Gah!  I thought they were loosely following classic Avengers stories....we should be years and years from that mess.

I'm sure that whole storyline is many seasons down the road but Winter Soldier is part of canon now and he would show up in several episodes over many seasons. After all I'm sure that part of getting the actor to sign on for doing Bucky in flashback sequences was getting to do Winter Soldier and Barnes in any future episodes to come.

Even the young actor who signed to play Bucky in the Captain America movie knew that his contract included playing Winter Soldier and Captain America in future movies.

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Quote from: crimsonquill on October 06, 2010, 08:39:10 PM
but the same actor is slated as doing the voice for Winter Soldier as well.

Is that actually confirmed? Sounds great, but I hope they don't jump into that story too soon.

The Robin voice bugged me a little bit too. Loved the Wolverine cameo. And Kang was in it, yay Kang!
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catwhowalksbyhimself

A great conclusion to the Cap flashback.
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lugaru

Great show so far! I found the hydra thing a little odd but not a bad way to get around the whole natzi thing that most cartoons dont want to touch. The cameos where great, the red skull using "hellboy" style tactics is great and Bucky is great.

catwhowalksbyhimself

Looking through the official website's character profiles, Ultron will be in later in the first season.  His origin says that he was an old join project of Pym's and Stark's that was scrapped and then later brought online again to help the Avengers. Sounds like a good version to me.
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thanoson

Long live Slaanesh, Prince of Pain!!!

catwhowalksbyhimself

Ep 17 "Welcome to Wakanda" is up.  Some fantastic storytelling here.
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lugaru

Oh nice, I love me some black panther. Did anyone watch the BET cartoon? I HATED the first 10 minutes but once I got over the animation style (and some voices, especially Cap) it turned into one of my favorite cartoons to date.

kkhohoho

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Shogunn2517

Quote from: kkhohoho on October 08, 2010, 07:38:46 PM
Two clips from episode 2 of the actual show: Some Assembly Required.

http://www.stitchkingdom.com/disney-news/television-disney/sneak-peek-disney-xds-marvels-avengers-earths-mightiest-heroes/

Good stuff.

Still not digging the talkative Hulk.  Hope he only hangs around for these first few episodes and kick rocks.

catwhowalksbyhimself

Lo there shall Come a Conquerer was indeed awesome, and we even have a sympathetic take on Kang, which only serves to make him more interesting.  Now we know he isn't going to stop messing with the Avengers, because he has every reason to keep fighting them.

Spoiler

Kang's timeline is being replaced by an utterly destroyed Earth, and he's traced the cause back to something Captain America's about to do.  His entire planetary empire's now been wiped out as a result and his wife is starting to fade from history was well, leading him try to conquer the past in order to restore his timeline and his wife.  Fortunately for the Avengers, only his capital ship makes it--the rest of his fleet apparently becomes erased from history before they can time jump.
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kkhohoho

Quote from: Shogunn2517 on October 09, 2010, 02:15:35 PM
Quote from: kkhohoho on October 08, 2010, 07:38:46 PM
Two clips from episode 2 of the actual show: Some Assembly Required.

http://www.stitchkingdom.com/disney-news/television-disney/sneak-peek-disney-xds-marvels-avengers-earths-mightiest-heroes/

Good stuff.

Still not digging the talkative Hulk.  Hope he only hangs around for these first few episodes and kick rocks.

Personally, I like the talkative Hulk. He's just intelligent enough to be more then just a rampaging manchild, while still being an angry green giant of rage. (Besides, he was talkative and intelligent in his early appearances too.)

On a related note, I too am liking what I see, and am definitely going to check this show out. (I've even been checking out the original issues; they aren't half-bad.)
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Quote from: Shogunn2517 on October 09, 2010, 02:15:35 PM
Good stuff.

Still not digging the talkative Hulk.  Hope he only hangs around for these first few episodes and kick rocks.

UE voiced the same concern to me, so I'm deducing that the popular iteration of Hulk is clouding the perception of how Hulk was originally portrayed when Stan Lee created and wrote him. I'm going to post some pics of how Hulk was back when Avengers started.

Avengers #2: Just before Space Phantom took over Hulk's body and set into motion the events that eventually made Hulk leave the team:



Avengers #3: Hulk on the run:



Avengers #5: Hulk just happened upon the Avengers in the middle of a crisis:



So, yeah, Hulk was very verbose back in his day and didn't start to become very laconic and dumbed down until after Stan got through with him. Back then, he was just a misunderstood monster with rage issues. :P
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Yeah, he was actually pretty close to Ben Grimm...just a big, strong, angry guy, although he didn't get the support Grimm did from the F4.
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Minisode 19: Beware the Widow's Bite (And that wraps up the Hulk minisodes. Just one minisode more to go...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiM2AAxGjgQ
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Quote from: Previsionary on October 09, 2010, 05:47:29 PM
Quote from: Shogunn2517 on October 09, 2010, 02:15:35 PM
Good stuff.

Still not digging the talkative Hulk.  Hope he only hangs around for these first few episodes and kick rocks.

UE voiced the same concern to me, so I'm deducing that the popular iteration of Hulk is clouding the perception of how Hulk was originally portrayed when Stan Lee created and wrote him. I'm going to post some pics of how Hulk was back when Avengers started.

Avengers #2: Just before Space Phantom took over Hulk's body and set into motion the events that eventually made Hulk leave the team:



Avengers #3: Hulk on the run:



Avengers #5: Hulk just happened upon the Avengers in the middle of a crisis:



So, yeah, Hulk was very verbose back in his day and didn't start to become very laconic and dumbed down until after Stan got through with him. Back then, he was just a misunderstood monster with rage issues. :P

Okay, okay.  That's fair.  Admittedly, my first memories of the Hulk are of the television series so I'm biased.  I'm thinking he should be as quiet and mindless as he is there, like he pretty much is in the films.  Though I'd like to see a happy balance as his portrayal has been in the books and animated, I'm not use to it. 

But if going off from there and what I've seen thus far, unlike a lot of other shows, they are not shot-putting through origins and stories.  Look at the animated X-Men and they never started off with the original five.  Look at the 90s Avengers and they had a different analgamation of characters.  Even the Justice League, as good as it was wasn't the original League.  I like what they're doing.  They're trying to make it fresh and using versions and storylines that are familiar, but still following what the Avengers originally were.  The characters are interesting.  This is not being made exclusively for a younger audience and they are finding ways to fit so much of the Avengers and the overall universe in and keep it exciting.  Honestly, I wouldn't have expected to have seen a number of characters and villains already.  The Micro Episodes is an EXCELLENT idea because the backstories are done.  We don't have to spend time setting up storylines, introducing characters and have oddly placed origins(Wonder Woman/Justice League, Doctor Doom/FF & FF:ROTSS).  All of this stories and characters are in place and frankly, they're well paced and I'm really excited for the actual season where they can take their time.

Overall, I'm just glad that this isn't "kiddy", it's a fresh take, and they're using a LOT of source material, seemingly not forgetting anything.  I just hope that doesnt' come back to bite them.  But I'm happy so far.

kkhohoho

Minisode 20/Final: The Big House; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjrxcaKRQZc

All that's left now is the show, and personally, I'm looking forward to it. :)
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kkhohoho

Quote from: BentonGrey on October 11, 2010, 03:03:07 AM
Who is that at the end?

The really smart guy, or the guy with the beard? If you're referring to the smart guy, no idea. If it's the guy with the beard, it's Gravitron.
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I was talking about the bearded fellow, but the smart guy was the Mad Thinker.  http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=169  Thanks for identifying the other villain.
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herodad1

i like the direction they are going with hulk. i like him better talkative with anger issues too. i also like them actually knocking the crap out of each other like the jla series did.