Wolverine: Origins Film Thread

[Ares_God_of_War]

They will graft on peices from Lady Deathstrike from 2 - His new mutant power will be jumping over sharks

[BentonGrey]

Ughh...

[docdelorean88]

A mighty load of rambling below... Spoil at your own risk...

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So i saw it. I'm not sure if this was or wasn't better than X3. I hated the bone claws, hated the dude playing striker, hated that Cyclops was in it, hated that the Blob, Gambit, and Emma Frost were a few of the best cast and the most wasted characters. Great FX for Emma though. I LOVED Gambits cards throwing and bo-staff quake. Hated the "Jimmy/Victor" Plotline, and theFREAKIN' BONE CLAWS! ANNOYING! I have to say the things i hated the most were just some of the theatrical elements. Camera angles were mediocre, there were far to many land/sea/city scape shots, most of the costuming sucked, and the quality of the special FX were terribly disapointing. If(for some unknown reason) you see it again watch when Logan is in the bathroom, has Victor pinned to the floor with his claws to his throat, and almost every other time the (adamantium)claws were out. This has got to be the most pitiful digital animation work i have ever seen. Why didn't they use the prop claws like in the others? Also hated the cliche action hero walk away from the heli-explotion... LAME!

However, despite all of the above... I enjoyed the film for what it was. I made the mistake of expecting an X-men film... ... my bad. Though really, take away the nerdboy perspective and i think this as a stand alone film is overall alright. I do feel bad for Hugh Jackman though. SOOOOO many people will be dissapointed.

[cmdrkoenig67]

I really, really didn't enjoy this film.

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So many injustices done to so many of the characters...They are just not who they should be (most are badly thought-out/handled/portrayed)...Sabretooth (Ugh!),  Emma Frost (WTF?!), maverick (WTF?), Deadpool (WTF?!), Gambit (Blarg!).  The dialogue was terrible in many spots and the Weapon X part of the story was awful...I wish they stuck more with the original Barry Windsor-Smith Weapon X plot instead (it was so much better than this tripe).  Weapon XI (faux Deadpool) was just dumb.  Silverfox and Emma being sisters was a terrible, terrible idea...Not to mention, Logan (James) and Victor being brothers through history was also bad..

This film just misses the mark in so many places...I actually regret going to see it.

Dana

[AfghanAnt]

ohh for the love of god this can't be true

can we get a film version where dead pool isn't ruined and logans memory loss isn't cause by some stupid plot device

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striker shoots him with an adamantium bullet

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Can adamantium even go through adamantium? I could have sworn that Deathstrike and Wolverine were blocking one another's strikes with their claws..

How would an adamantium bullet go through an adamantium skeleton? Pretty dumb. I wasn't pleased at all.

I don't know if someone has answered this but the bullet would have significantly more force than say to people knife fighting.

[Figure Fan]

I really, really didn't enjoy this film.

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So many injustices done to so many of the characters...They are just not who they should be (most are badly thought-out/handled/portrayed)...Sabretooth (Ugh!),  Emma Frost (WTF?!), maverick (WTF?), Deadpool (WTF?!), Gambit (Blarg!).  The dialogue was terrible in many spots and the Weapon X part of the story was awful...I wish they stuck more with the original Barry Windsor-Smith Weapon X plot instead (it was so much better than this tripe).  Weapon XI (faux Deadpool) was just dumb.  Silverfox and Emma being sisters was a terrible, terrible idea...Not to mention, Logan (James) and Victor being brothers through history was also bad..

This film just misses the mark in so many places...I actually regret going to see it.

Dana

Oh wow..I didn't even know Agent Zero was Maverick..I hated his character and his face. Just annoyed me, and why could he jump so far?

[AfghanAnt]

theFREAKIN' BONE CLAWS! ANNOYING!

Why were the bone claws annoying? I just seems like a silly thing to be annoyed at.

Ok after reading everyone else's post I'm sort of shocked. For the most part it was a decent movie. By no means would I sit through it again but I didn't get up and leave. Also everyone seems to be caught up on this whole Deadpool-Mimic thing but I'm not entirely sure why. Movie versions of characters are usually different comic versions. I think this was my biggest problem with Watchmen. I already knew what was going to happen and it made the movie extremely boring. When it boils down to it film versions are What If?'s and instead of getting upset just take it for what it is.

One more thing:

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It is revealed that Barakapool/Mimicpool was a clone of the real Wade Wilson.

[docdelorean88]

theFREAKIN' BONE CLAWS! ANNOYING!

Why were the bone claws annoying? I just seems like a silly thing to be annoyed at.

Ok after reading everyone else's post I'm sort of shocked. For the most part it was a decent movie. By no means would I sit through it again but I didn't get up and leave. Also everyone seems to be caught up on this whole Deadpool-Mimic thing but I'm not entirely sure why. Movie versions of characters are usually different comic versions. I think this was my biggest problem with Watchmen. I already knew what was going to happen and it made the movie extremely boring. When it boils down to it film versions are What If?'s and instead of getting upset just take it for what it is.

One more thing:

Spoiler

It is revealed that Barakapool/Mimicpool was a clone of the real Wade Wilson.

Rule #1 of wolverine. Adamantium claws. Did wolverine have claws vefore his skeleton in the original story lines? I just thought it was hilarious that they had actual prop bone claws, but all of the metal ones were digitally animated.

[AfghanAnt]

Rule #1 of wolverine. Adamantium claws. Did wolverine have claws vefore his skeleton in the original story lines? I just thought it was hilarious that they had actual prop bone claws, but all of the metal ones were digitally animated.

Actually he did have bone claws in the original story line. Maybe you should buff up on your Wolverine history.

[Tomato]

Meh, I guess this might just be me coming off of the Dragonball flick, but I don't know what the big deal is. It's not a great flick by any means, but it is a decent one, and I take a bit of offense at it being compared to X3 as though they're even comparable. Just... No.

As for the bone claws... Don't go too hard on him AA, it may not be obvious since that's only really been explored since the Wolverine Origins miniseries. It's not like he's had bone claws for extended periods in the comics or anything.

[docdelorean88]

Meh, I guess this might just be me coming off of the Dragonball flick, but I don't know what the big deal is. It's not a great flick by any means, but it is a decent one, and I take a bit of offense at it being compared to X3 as though they're even comparable. Just... No.

As for the bone claws... Don't go too hard on him AA, it may not be obvious since that's only really been explored since the Wolverine Origins miniseries. It's not like he's had bone claws for extended periods in the comics or anything.

Thanks T. I did like the film overall. I was just so disapointed. I actually didn't know about the bone claws. I know a decent amount about the wolverine history, i just think it flows with the weapon X story to say that they put claws in him. It was a Decent movie. I was just practicing being a critic because i have to write a review of it for class.

[Tomato]

I suppose, but adding claws would be outside Weapon X's capabilities, methinks. Sticking some permanent Adamantium spikes in his hands, sure, Adamantium is unbreakable and Wolverine's system can't expel it. But retractable claws? That would require additional muscles to control it, alterations to the brain functions to control their movement in and out, and even then you'd have to overhaul his healing factor to keep it from repairing the damage.

In the same vein, that's always why I think the term "bonding" is accurate, whereas the common perception that Weapon X coated his bones is dumb. Bones have certain functions related to healing, and coating them with unbreakable metal would kill those functions.

[deano_ue]

theFREAKIN' BONE CLAWS! ANNOYING!

Why were the bone claws annoying? I just seems like a silly thing to be annoyed at.

Ok after reading everyone else's post I'm sort of shocked. For the most part it was a decent movie. By no means would I sit through it again but I didn't get up and leave. Also everyone seems to be caught up on this whole Deadpool-Mimic thing but I'm not entirely sure why. Movie versions of characters are usually different comic versions. I think this was my biggest problem with Watchmen. I already knew what was going to happen and it made the movie extremely boring. When it boils down to it film versions are What If?'s and instead of getting upset just take it for what it is.

One more thing:

Spoiler

It is revealed that Barakapool/Mimicpool was a clone of the real Wade Wilson.

where is that revealed mate, i posted the deadpool ending in this thread and no where does it show that

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, weapon xi just opens his eyes after his hand reaches his severed head

[docdelorean88]

Good points. Okay, so bone claws are iffy right now. But i did and didn't like how they handled the coating of adamantium. I believe in the first xmen they did say it was surgically grafted to his skeleton. Surgically being the main term. I mean, how was any of that surgical. I wanted to see them cut him open. Not anything terribly gruesome, i always thought it would involve haveing slices in his skin and then interesting the wierd needles. It needed to show why it was hurting(just a little more). It was smaller things(all nerdyboy aside) that left me feeling that, for a story that was going to answer our questions answered so few. Too much to leave you with, "Oh, that thing that happened at the end means there is more to him than we have seen." and to little to leave you with, "That explains it all! It all makes sense now."...in smileys it leaves you with a ...  ...  You just leave happy there was another movie to see.

[AfghanAnt]

theFREAKIN' BONE CLAWS! ANNOYING!

Why were the bone claws annoying? I just seems like a silly thing to be annoyed at.

Ok after reading everyone else's post I'm sort of shocked. For the most part it was a decent movie. By no means would I sit through it again but I didn't get up and leave. Also everyone seems to be caught up on this whole Deadpool-Mimic thing but I'm not entirely sure why. Movie versions of characters are usually different comic versions. I think this was my biggest problem with Watchmen. I already knew what was going to happen and it made the movie extremely boring. When it boils down to it film versions are What If?'s and instead of getting upset just take it for what it is.

One more thing:

Spoiler

It is revealed that Barakapool/Mimicpool was a clone of the real Wade Wilson.

where is that revealed mate, i posted the deadpool ending in this thread and no where does it show that

Spoiler

, weapon xi just opens his eyes after his hand reaches his severed head

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I didn't see the ending (I saw the Wolverine one and people boo'ed) but I was told there was an ending where Stryker reveals that it was a clone. However after thinking about it and how the female doctor said his mutation wasnt stable, I'm guess it really is Deadpool and he loses the other powers.

[cmdrkoenig67]

Rule #1 of wolverine. Adamantium claws. Did wolverine have claws vefore his skeleton in the original story lines? I just thought it was hilarious that they had actual prop bone claws, but all of the metal ones were digitally animated.

Actually he did have bone claws in the original story line. Maybe you should buff up on your Wolverine history.

The bone claws are a retcon...

Originally, Len Wein (Wolvie's creator) intended the claws to be a part of his gloves...Later, Claremont and Cockrum (or was it Byrne?) revealed Wolvie's claws to be coming out of his arms (retcon one), but they were intended to be artificial bionic implants (as revealed in the Handbooks in the Eighties, especially the Marvel Weapons, Hardware and Paraphenalia manual)...The claws being revealed as being originally bone, was the second retcon from the nineties.

Dana

[Podmark]

Saw it yesterday, and it was ok. Nothing special and there wasn't anything in it that makes me want to see it again but it wasn't really bad.

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How lame is it that Ryan Reynolds doesn't get to play Weapon XI! Ryan would make an awesome true Deadpool and I hope he gets the chance one day.
Also Weapon XI actually was so close to being a decent Deadpool. Take away the optic blasts, maybe give him swords instead of claws and open that darn mouth and that last fight would have been awesome.

Really liked Sabretooth in this movie, I thought his actor did a good job. Also Jackman continues to be a great Wolverine, and I liked Gambit for what it was.

Yay for Dominic Monaghan and Kevin Durand being in the film! Love seeing former Lost actors again.
Also yay for (funny looking) Patrick Stewart!

Didn't like Blob being in it. That scene was just too goofy to fit with what this movie should have been.
Also didn't like that Silverfox survived, just seemed unnecessary.

The teleporting effect was pretty cool.

I think thats really all I have to say. Movie is mostly meh, with some lameness here and there.

[Ares_God_of_War]

Saw it yesterday, and it was ok. Nothing special and there wasn't anything in it that makes me want to see it again but it wasn't really bad.

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How lame is it that Ryan Reynolds doesn't get to play Weapon XI! Ryan would make an awesome true Deadpool and I hope he gets the chance one day.
Also Weapon XI actually was so close to being a decent Deadpool. Take away the optic blasts, maybe give him swords instead of claws and open that darn mouth and that last fight would have been awesome.

Really liked Sabretooth in this movie, I thought his actor did a good job. Also Jackman continues to be a great Wolverine, and I liked Gambit for what it was.

Yay for Dominic Monaghan and Kevin Durand being in the film! Love seeing former Lost actors again.
Also yay for (funny looking) Patrick Stewart!

Didn't like Blob being in it. That scene was just too goofy to fit with what this movie should have been.
Also didn't like that Silverfox survived, just seemed unnecessary.

The teleporting effect was pretty cool.

I think thats really all I have to say. Movie is mostly meh, with some lameness here and there.

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where does silverfox survive? the lat I saw was Gambit asking if Wolvie knew hr and he saying no, checking her pulse then closing her eyes

[Podmark]

Saw it yesterday, and it was ok. Nothing special and there wasn't anything in it that makes me want to see it again but it wasn't really bad.

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How lame is it that Ryan Reynolds doesn't get to play Weapon XI! Ryan would make an awesome true Deadpool and I hope he gets the chance one day.
Also Weapon XI actually was so close to being a decent Deadpool. Take away the optic blasts, maybe give him swords instead of claws and open that darn mouth and that last fight would have been awesome.

Really liked Sabretooth in this movie, I thought his actor did a good job. Also Jackman continues to be a great Wolverine, and I liked Gambit for what it was.

Yay for Dominic Monaghan and Kevin Durand being in the film! Love seeing former Lost actors again.
Also yay for (funny looking) Patrick Stewart!

Didn't like Blob being in it. That scene was just too goofy to fit with what this movie should have been.
Also didn't like that Silverfox survived, just seemed unnecessary.

The teleporting effect was pretty cool.

I think thats really all I have to say. Movie is mostly meh, with some lameness here and there.

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where does silverfox survive? the lat I saw was Gambit asking if Wolvie knew hr and he saying no, checking her pulse then closing her eyes

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Sorry bad wording. I meant how they had faked her death earlier. I didn't really feel her coming back later in the film was necessary.

[Silver Shocker]

I saw it. I didn't hate it, but I didn't particularly like it either. It was a decent way to waste a couple of hours.

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The ending I saw was the Deadpool one.

[docdelorean88]

I saw it. I didn't hate it, but I didn't particularly like it either. It was a decent way to waste a couple of hours.

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The ending I saw was the Deadpool one.

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diddo

[daglob]

Rule #1 of wolverine. Adamantium claws. Did wolverine have claws vefore his skeleton in the original story lines? I just thought it was hilarious that they had actual prop bone claws, but all of the metal ones were digitally animated.

Actually he did have bone claws in the original story line. Maybe you should buff up on your Wolverine history.

Actually, it depends on when you ask that question. Until just a few years ago, they were add-ons. And I'm pretty sure that in his first appearence, they were just part of the costume.

And I have to say, the whole bone claw thing annoys me too. But they haven't been writing comic books for me for a long, long time...

[deano_ue]

theFREAKIN' BONE CLAWS! ANNOYING!

Why were the bone claws annoying? I just seems like a silly thing to be annoyed at.

Ok after reading everyone else's post I'm sort of shocked. For the most part it was a decent movie. By no means would I sit through it again but I didn't get up and leave. Also everyone seems to be caught up on this whole Deadpool-Mimic thing but I'm not entirely sure why. Movie versions of characters are usually different comic versions. I think this was my biggest problem with Watchmen. I already knew what was going to happen and it made the movie extremely boring. When it boils down to it film versions are What If?'s and instead of getting upset just take it for what it is.

One more thing:

Spoiler

It is revealed that Barakapool/Mimicpool was a clone of the real Wade Wilson.

where is that revealed mate, i posted the deadpool ending in this thread and no where does it show that

Spoiler

, weapon xi just opens his eyes after his hand reaches his severed head

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I didn't see the ending (I saw the Wolverine one and people boo'ed) but I was told there was an ending where Stryker reveals that it was a clone. However after thinking about it and how the female doctor said his mutation wasnt stable, I'm guess it really is Deadpool and he loses the other powers.

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striker never mentions a clone in the film, and the deadpool ending is the hand crawling over to the severed head which opens it's eyes and thats it

[The Hitman]

Wow.

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OK, good stuff first.

- Reynolds as Wade was spot- on. Notice I differentiate between Wade and "Deadpool."
- The little kid James looked like a little Jackman. Good casting there.
- The inclusion of Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch (?), Toad, and Sunfire as captured kids (kid with white hair strung up and "super- shaking," chick with red streak in hair (?), green kid with tounge, asian kid being frozen in his cell)
- Alkalie Lake looked like it did in X1 and X2.

The bad:
- Agent Zero shouldn't be able to jump like that, and Gambit shouldn't have the strength to stick his half- staves a brick wall and climb up it like Spider- Man.
- The little attempts at humor. Don't get me wrong, I love comedy, but this flick didn't make it work for me.
- "Deadpool."
- The CG was dreck. The scene where Logan's checking out his shiny new claws in the old folk's bathroom... his claws looked awful. The lighting was off... it almost looked like an unfinished print of the CG claws.
- "Emma" looked bad. Instead of one chunk of diamond, she looked like she truned into a pile of fake rhinestones. For those of you who would get this, she look like she had been Bedazzled.
- Prof X and the chopper looked sickeningly fake. Almost unnaturally fake.
- For that matter, Prof X didn't need to be in the film at all. Totally unnessary.

The best part was the trailer for Star Trek... I didn't realize Simon Pegg was Scotty!

[thalaw2]

Better than X3, IMO. 

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I find it strange that the put the addition of Adamantium so close to present day.  It's not consistent with anything in the comics that I know....from waaayyy back in the day. 
I'm not a big fan of the bone claws either, but it seemed that they handled it well enough since now it's part of Wolve's origin post retcons.
I'm also annoyed by all the references to wolves and wolverines...do they even get along? 
Sabertooth was more interesting than anyone else in the movie.
It seems that all X1 and X2 have now been retconned since Prof X leading the kids out of danger implies that he knows a lot more than he let on about Wolvie's origins. What a lair they've been making Prof. X to be in recent times!   I've nearly lost all respect for the man.

[Glitch Girl]

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For those of you who would get this, she look like she had been Bedazzled.

For the record, that line almost made me snort orange juice up my nose.  Well done.

[Tomato]

Better than X3, IMO. 

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I find it strange that the put the addition of Adamantium so close to present day.  It's not consistent with anything in the comics that I know....from waaayyy back in the day. 
I'm not a big fan of the bone claws either, but it seemed that they handled it well enough since now it's part of Wolve's origin post retcons.
I'm also annoyed by all the references to wolves and wolverines...do they even get along? 
Sabertooth was more interesting than anyone else in the movie.
It seems that all X1 and X2 have now been retconned since Prof X leading the kids out of danger implies that he knows a lot more than he let on about Wolvie's origins. What a lair they've been making Prof. X to be in recent times!   I've nearly lost all respect for the man.

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No, they alluded to him knowing about Wolverine's past in X2, Magneto in particular made a few comments about that if I recall right.

[JeyNyce]

Fun Facts:

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1610493/story.jhtml

[Talavar]

What was all the talk about wolves and wolverines?  I remember the story about the wolverine, but were wolves even mentioned?

[thalaw2]

Not so much talk as symbolic stuff throughout the movie.