I blame Vertex and C6 for this absurdity >.>
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2764/cyclopsw.jpg)
Dude....it was all Vertrex's idea...he...he made me go along with it!
One way or another i am truly impressed! Can't wait!
That part ALONE is pretty. Does the rest look that good?
Quote from: daglob on March 17, 2009, 01:48:57 AM
That part ALONE is pretty. Does the rest look that good?
Maaaaybe. I don't know yet, this was as far as I got before I got distracted :P.
Just to explain why this came about... I just re-downloaded C6's X-men pack 3 off of Ren's website this evening, along with all the meshes and such that go along with it. Well, I was looking through them, and Cyclops' visor just bugged me... No offense Vertex, but that visor is one of the few ugly blotches in your time as a mesher. And rather then rip the one Tommy did or use a more modern visor (the latter of which I'd done before) I decided to mesh/skin my own classic visor.
And then my own belt (complete with that freaky buckle he wore back in GSX #1).
And then I just finished the rest of the mesh.
And at that point, why not just reskin him from scratch.
No offense taken, I made 7 visors and the cyclops that matrix released wasn't for release.
oooo Cyclops.
Well, I WAS just going to ask this in the chat, but SOMEONE changed the topic to post count just after I posted my image :banghead:.
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4610/image21l.jpg)
I'm trying to decide if my shadows (which are on a separate layer, as are highlights) are dark enough, or if I should adjust them a bit more. Meh.
Looks really good so far. I'm not really a fan of the twin eyeglow...that's not "cyclops" to me.
wouldn't go any darker honestly myself.
Quote from: Courtnall6 on March 17, 2009, 05:29:49 AM
Looks really good so far. I'm not really a fan of the twin eyeglow...that's not "cyclops" to me.
Well, I tried doing the one eyeglow (first kitbashing yours then with my own custom visor lens...) but it just didn't look right to me. But hey, it's an excuse for you to do a skin for the mesh, right? :P
Oh, something interesting I remembered while chatting with the rest of the usual gang on FR's chat, This is actually the SECOND Cyclops mesh I've done :wacko:. The first was done waaaaaay back in the dark ages of the FF community under another username. Fortunately, unlike most of my other work, it has survived in the dusty corners of FF mesh groups awaiting the day I could pull it out and show you all just how very bad it was.
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3521/cyclopscompare.jpg)
"Classic" visor... [chuckle]
Bill, who bought X-Men #1 (the FIRST one) off the rack.
PS: Hey, I USE that Cyclops, as both Cyc and Man of the Atom.
O.o lovely at all!
It's not bad at all Tomato.
Skinning from essentially scratch is such a load of fun.[/sarcasm]
Anyway, here's what I've been able to do today in between tv shows (Yes Prem, I did finish WatX finally. you can bug me after NCIS.)
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/225/image2eer.jpg)
Looks great! I think this is one of the first things i have seen of yours posted on here. Looking great!
I remember that old mesh, this new one is better. Good job.
I really love the visor but the facial work makes Cyke look older than his years.
Hmmm... It does look a little old for Scott, but I'm trying to emulate Cyclops' appearance when he got his new goggles in GSX #1. And Cockrum's style... it's a bit heavy handed on some of those facial details for Scott.
But what does everybody else think? Did I properly emulate the Cockrum look, or did I go a bit too far?
I have to say, the skinning job on Cyclops so far is really impressive. I like what you did with the costume, with the black shading and the blue/white highlights. I'm looking forward to seeing the final results.
I didn't even notice Cyke looking older until it was pointed out, but it still doesn't look out of place to me. Maybe if he didn't scowl and had more of a grimace? Like a straight-line mouth?
i totally dig it. I've always loved your vibrant colours, and the stylishness of the visor is great! so smooth.
Scott is such a serious character that he would have frown lines even if he was 12. Looks good to me so far.
yeah, keep the grim serious look.like the double red eye too.i mean...yeah, he does have two red eyes.
Quote from: herodad1 on March 18, 2009, 11:52:28 PM
yeah, keep the grim serious look.like the double red eye too.i mean...yeah, he does have two red eyes.
Not while wearing his visor. Single eyeglow....hence the name Cyclops.
I understand where you're coming from Court, but it's generally a matter of opinion in the comics... sometimes artists will draw twin glows, sometimes the one. Personally, I just like the look of the twin glow on my skin, makes it feel a bit more balanced. You're more then welcome to do your own version (mine started out as a kittbash of your work anyway, heh) when it comes out... heck, I'll send you the mesh now, if you want to skin it.
Quote from: Tomato on March 19, 2009, 02:13:29 PM
I understand where you're coming from Court, but it's generally a matter of opinion in the comics... sometimes artists will draw twin glows, sometimes the one. Personally, I just like the look of the twin glow on my skin, makes it feel a bit more balanced. You're more then welcome to do your own version (mine started out as a kittbash of your work anyway, heh) when it comes out... heck, I'll send you the mesh now, if you want to skin it.
Modern artists are the problem sadly...I guess they thought Kirby, Cockrum, and Byrne were doing it wrong all that time. "What? Draw Cyclops on model??? Nah...those crazy old farts didn't know what they were doing!" :P
Anywho...getting off track here...back to Tomato's fine new mesh!
I will definetly skin your mesh once it's realesed...Cyclops is a favorite of mine. :cool:
Finished the Black/Blue areas, finally :banghead:.
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2604/image6mch.jpg)(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5787/image7hpv.jpg)
The major issue, as it typically seems to be for me, is the back of the upper torso, seen in the second pic. See, I know generally where shading goes on the arms, the face, the legs, the chest, the hands, and all that... but the back absolutely stumps me. I've looked at bodybuilders, I've looked at comic books, other bases... but it's just one gigantic brain fart. And with Cyclops' back... well, normally I give up on that area in disgust, but this time I'm at least content with the look.
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5102/cyclopspreview.jpg)
Aaaaaand Done. Should have this guy zipped up and in a yahoo group or somesuch by sometime tomorrow, depending on when I can tear myself away from my Vidjamagames to bother writing a readme file.
For those wondering about the website, it's not going to be up for very much longer. I have all my files from there backed up already, so don't freak out because you can't get Sylar (or whatever other character on my site was actually worth the time to download). I just don't feel like paying for a .com anymore due to my having to pay for, y'know, food :P.
But anyway, as far as future projects... Aside from Fighter (who is temporarily benched because I still haven't learned to animate, heh.) I have one or two in mind, depending on how much time I have between schoolwork. The next one might take some time though, it's a bit of a Colossal project ;).
He looks very nice.
Good to see you back meshing for FF/v3r.
I still have your old meshes back when you were who you were back then. Including the old Cyclops.
It's a shame that someone superglued Scott's hand to the side of his head as a joke though :P
Quote from: Tomato on March 22, 2009, 06:07:13 AM
For those wondering about the website, it's not going to be up for very much longer. I have all my files from there backed up already, so don't freak out because you can't get Sylar (or whatever other character on my site was actually worth the time to download). I just don't feel like paying for a .com anymore due to my having to pay for, y'know, food :P.
But anyway, as far as future projects... Aside from Fighter (who is temporarily benched because I still haven't learned to animate, heh.) I have one or two in mind, depending on how much time I have between schoolwork. The next one might take some time though, it's a bit of a Colossal project ;).
Yes! he looks great, And seriously Tomato, you know your originals kick butt too. I love Red Ant (and actually i skope his glasss onto other meshes a lot too hahah)
and, well I'm kinda glad that you're shutting down the influx website, since for some reason i could never access it from korea (I had to wait till last summer when i went back to canada to grab all your originals and sylar!)
also, a Colossal project eh? looking forward to it. Удачи!
Heh, then maybe I should keep it... ;)
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Tomatostuffage/ (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Tomatostuffage/) - Cyclops is up. I did something a bit unorthodox here and left the resolution for the tgas as 1024 (normally skinners resize to 512) but I feel as though most of us have hardware and connections capable of dealing with it, and if the 1024 starts making FF/FFvtTR lag any yokel with gimp can make it 512. Making them bigger again is the tough part, heh.
That Cyclops came out great.
You disappear for awhile and this is the crap you come back with. For shame!! :angry:
The skin and mesh look amazing. I can't wait to see this one in action. I hope your "colossal" project is what I think it is....
Ooo! Ooo! I know!
It's..
Spoiler
http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Colossus
Quote from: billdamn22 on March 24, 2009, 12:39:28 AM
You disappear for awhile and this is the crap you come back with. For shame!! :angry:
The skin and mesh look amazing. I can't wait to see this one in action. I hope your "colossal" project is what I think it is....
Heh, you think this is good? Pfft, that mesh took less than 2 hours from me deciding I wanted a new Classic Visor to a completed mesh (and that's factoring in the period where I was just going to do the new visor, without a whole mesh). This next one... heh. If only you could my screen right now ;).
Quote from: Tomato on March 24, 2009, 03:09:52 AM
Quote from: billdamn22 on March 24, 2009, 12:39:28 AM
You disappear for awhile and this is the crap you come back with. For shame!! :angry:
The skin and mesh look amazing. I can't wait to see this one in action. I hope your "colossal" project is what I think it is....
Heh, you think this is good? Pfft, that mesh took less than 2 hours from me deciding I wanted a new Classic Visor to a completed mesh (and that's factoring in the period where I was just going to do the new visor, without a whole mesh). This next one... heh. If only you could my screen right now ;).
Yeah, if only you could the screen! :P
Excellent, Tomato!
Great Cyke, I really like it. I think you captured his essence perfectly (especially his facial expression).
for those of you who don't know about the FR chat (for whatever silly reason) or haven't bothered with it before, I'm bored enough right now that I'll be giving a preview of my latest mesh to those who get in the shack, an offer that will stand from now until 1am. If you don't see this between that time, I might even extend that offer... possibly.
It's not 1 yet! Liar!
Quote from: Gremlin on March 25, 2009, 06:33:24 AM
It's not 1 yet! Liar!
Huh, it's 3am here... probably should have clarified the time zone I meant as EST, heh.
No biggie though, I'll probably post a preview here later in the week. I did this mostly spur of the moment, but I'm thinking maybe, given the Colossal size of this project, I'll do one preview every week (or half a week this time 'round, since I'm done with the next set already) in the chat room, and post the previous week's preview in here. Of course, I'm already done with the meshing for the next preview as it is, so I might make it bi-weekly... tuesdays and fridays or somesuch. I have pretty much unadulterated meshing time this weekend, so I'll be done with the next couple well before then... especially if I cheat ;)
I should put a notice up for everyone here: These previews will only have cobbled together skins from colored C6 bases and gradients. This is because (for whatever reason) it takes me over a week to finish skins while it only takes a few hours to complete something like my Cyclops.
I was going to do the preview thing I suggested, but between the fact that I'd potentially have to skin each piece twice (once with the cheapo skin and once with the final) and that fact that it was pretty juvenile to begin with, I'm going away with it. Here's a preview of two outfits worth of mesh pieces (That's right, as in uniforms plural. Mwahaha) that I have completed (which actually covers 3 costumes I'd love to see, as his Astonishing outfit would just use the pieces from the classic).
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1813/colossus.jpg)
Obviously the skins aren't great but they're just placeholders, really. Most of what I use to preview these in max is C6's Colossus anyway, so... :P
Always good to see more Colossus meshes. Out of curiosity, what kind of build can we expect with this mesh?
What do you mean by build? If you mean Muscular build, I built his base mesh up from Male_Basic to enhance his muscular sturucture, giving him a slightly stocky build, and increased the size of his hands and feet as well. After the whole mesh is done, I plan on hexing the nif to make him slightly taller than the Basic meshes, so that I don't lose the advantages of utilizing a MB biped.
I thought it might have been Colossus. Looking good.
Wow. Tomato that Cyclops skin is great, and Colossus is shaping up nicely as well.
I'm holding off on finishing Colossus for a bit, as the project is rather massive and I just don't feel like working on it right now :P.
However, I do have two projects either done or almost done on the meshing end, one of which will be sent, as soon as it's "done," over to another FR mesher for custom animations.
First, a mystery mesh. Those of you who know my current skinning binge might be able to guess if you try though.
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2164/mysterym.jpg)
Second, he's brave, he's bold, and he likes swords... Fighter 2.0
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1589/fighterp.jpg)
100% custom, Yahaha
Spoiler
Nice Alaric! Can't wait to see him skinned.
The cel shading on Fighter looks phenomenal! Leg mapping doesn't look like it's lined up correctly, though.
Quote from: Gremlin on May 01, 2009, 06:10:44 AM
Spoiler
Nice Alaric! Can't wait to see him skinned.
The cel shading on Fighter looks phenomenal! Leg mapping doesn't look like it's lined up correctly, though.
It is and isn't. I did that version of the skin for Version 1, and the mapping then was meant for a cylinder. Now he has actual legs, and the original skin doesn't fit on the new mapping.
How awesome is Fighter.
looks great tom, your meshing is coming along superbly.
I get first dibs on requests :P ;)
Fighter is so unique and cool looking, and I love that hair on Mr Mystery Mesh.
Quote from: Tomato on May 01, 2009, 04:02:29 AM
I'm holding off on finishing Colossus for a bit, as the project is rather massive and I just don't feel like working on it right now :P.
However, I do have two projects either done or almost done on the meshing end, one of which will be sent, as soon as it's "done," over to another FR mesher for custom animations.
First, a mystery mesh. Those of you who know my current skinning binge might be able to guess if you try though.
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2164/mysterym.jpg)
Second, he's brave, he's bold, and he likes swords... Fighter 2.0
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1589/fighterp.jpg)
I don't know who fighter is, but i like it! You should soooo do a few kingdom hearts characters, or think about doing some timmstyled stuff. You've got the tallent! PLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?
100% custom, Yahaha
Er... no. Timm meshes require skills I don't have, and I'd shoot myself before trying to do KH meshes. Fighter's(Fighter, FYI, is based on 8-bit theater, a "parody" of Final Fantasy 1) Hair alone took 2 months between my other projects.
:huh:... :mellow:... :(... okay... :lol: JK!
No, thats cool man. I just think those would be SAWEET from you. Not even something simple like Green Lantern Timm?
Quote from: docdelorean88 on May 02, 2009, 04:48:17 AM
:huh:... :mellow:... :(... okay... :lol: JK!
No, thats cool man. I just think those would be SAWEET from you. Not even something simple like Green Lantern Timm?
Not really. You have to understand, the Timm toons aren't set up like MB meshes, fundamentally. Shoulders are held higher and further out, overall torso is bigger, legs are smaller... Fighter, as cartoony as he looks, was designed and put together with the MB biped in mind. But when Volsung made his Timm meshes, he had to fundamentally change that biped. I don't know how to do that, and I don't have the patience or skill to modify or create a new slew of animations for the altered biped (because, FYI, altered biped means no MB keys work with Timm meshes).
Oh. Okay. Thanks for clarifying, i am now never going to mention timm things ever again after seeing how much work is involved! I would never want to put that on someone.
Some of you know about what I've been doing, some of you don't, but I'm a bit tired ATM so... I'll let these previews explain for me a little bit. On the left is Male_basic, the right my upcoming mesh Male_Basic_TM
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4803/malebasictmcompare1.jpg)
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5104/malebasictmcompare2.jpg)
Got a few new ideas from Vertex after making these screens, so I'll implement those tomorrow or the day after, depending on what time I get up vs. the time I have to work tomorrow.
Also, before anyone points out the feet... they've been remapped so that the feet can be skinned via YL or Guardian.
when this is done, it'll be released via both .nif AND .max, so if anyone wants to go forth and make a male_skinny, or male_underpants or male_chickendoodledo, they're more then welcome to.
Fingers? Who needs 'em?
I wonder what else will be hiding on this mesh. I also wonder what you have in way of animations. I am a curious fella.
I personally would like to see Male_ChickenDoodleDoo made.
EDIT: Oh, and great job on the mesh! Can't wait to try it out in- game!
Quote from: UnkoMan on July 15, 2009, 07:47:54 AM
Fingers? Who needs 'em?
I wonder what else will be hiding on this mesh. I also wonder what you have in way of animations. I am a curious fella.
The idea V and I came up with last night (because he's sort of helping me through the meshing end ATM) it to set up the fingers so that they can use MB keys but have individual movement if an animator wants to come up behind me and add say, Spiderman's web shooters that can be done. I've only got a vague idea how to set that up though, so I might have to have Vertex or Tommy help walk me through it.
The fingers and shoes aren't the only changes though... some of the more experienced skinners might want to look at the torso, shoulders, and neck.
Basically my idea is that this mesh will be (sans fingers, sorry) more skinner friendly then Male_Basic was... I've corrected some more subtle problems (a smidgeon of warping around the knee, the mapping of the torso has shifted so you can just flip symetical designs rather then moving them 2 to 8 pixels) as well as some major ones you can't really see (top of the head doesn't warp nearly as much, lower back is altered similar to how the abs were).
To that end, thanks to C6 and Murs, with this mesh will come with two skins... one by murs, a standard which will hopefully show off stuff like the dual boots, as well as an updated version of C6's base... not C6's new one, but the old one (edited by Murs as well) modified so as to eliminate problems with the original (like his black hole o crotch)
Awesome! Are you going to do a younger version male_basic as well?
Quote from: AfghanAnt on July 15, 2009, 06:56:17 PM
Awesome! Are you going to do a younger version male_basic as well?
I don't know, actually. I was able to get a semi-decent kid body (for Kid Rocket) by shrinking down certain areas to match Ren's kid meshes... I'd have to look at it again though.
However, what might be easier, in the long run, is if someone altered the mesh to be somewhat skinnier/more teen-like via max, then skoped the biped down via nifskope. That way one can use the keyframes from other meshes (which has always been my problem... I think the only teen-ish keys I like are the ones for Ren's Superboy.) rather then relying on ones for a specific biped that we rarely see stuff made for.
Worth some thought... who knows. I ever get more then a few hours before I have job or this or that to do via RL (I've worked on this mesh most often between 11:00 PM when I get off work and 2:00AM-3:00AM when I give up and fall asleep, meh.) I might play around with it. Or cheat a bit, have someone else do it for me. Whichever works.
Edit: Grah, forgot the point of my post in the mirage of IMs I've got up... a shot of the top of the head mapping, using a kittbashed version of one of C6's spidermen (twas the most convenient spidey skin at the time)
(http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/6228/malebasictmcompare3.jpg)
Tis a very cool project.
If someone does do a teen sized version I'm likely to make use of it quite a bit.
Well, if someone wants to get me a size comparison of a teen body vs adult body, I'll look into changes that might need making. Just be aware... whenever I come back to this stuff, after one or two skin projects, I've got another mesh correction to do... one with a much bigger warping issue around the chest.
If that means what I think it means, then I think that would be pretty cool. Anyway, this is great 'Mato! Good work man, and I guess I'm going to have to replace some male_basics soon. :D
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1867/malebasictmcompare4.jpg)
Final screen of the mesh before release. Thanks to V for advice on the thumb.
Also, Male_Basic_TM will now also be coming in Male_Nomouth_TM and Male_Fullmask_TM variety packs.
Two things: First, go here (http://ffcenter.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=59&start=0) and discuss. It's about what needs to happen with that bloody female mesh. Second, I'm looking for a skinner to do my Male_Nomouth_TM mesh (which might change to Maskmouth or something, since the mask is draped over the mouth rather then it being something like Barakapool's nomouth *shrug*). PM me if you're interested in doing a throwaway skin for the standard (I'd do it myself, but I have an annoying habit of designing things in and then meshing them, heh).
Quote from: Tomato on July 17, 2009, 07:03:16 PM
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1867/malebasictmcompare4.jpg)
Final screen of the mesh before release. Thanks to V for advice on the thumb.
Also, Male_Basic_TM will now also be coming in Male_Nomouth_TM and Male_Fullmask_TM variety packs.
Will this mesh have any extras? I'd love to see some extras in the mesh. I just need a hood :unsure:
But either way I can't wait to get this mesh
Quote from: primus on July 21, 2009, 11:20:00 PM
Will this mesh have any extras? I'd love to see some extras in the mesh. I just need a hood :unsure:
But either way I can't wait to get this mesh
Not really... I'm kind of running on the impression people can skope the things on and off. If I'm meshing a specific character that has a hood... then I'll make a hood, maybe. Depends on what I need, and if someone has already done one.
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/832/malesuit.jpg)
I blame this one on C6... his duo of standards for my Colossus hyped me up on meshing again. While I still plan (and definately so) to redo the Female mesh sometime soon, Male_Suit's mapping scheme has long irritated me. So I did up a second mapping scheme, complete with the MB head and my signature set of two hands.
With any luck, this will be a successful jumping off point for a second attempt at an old favorite of mine.
Cool.
Sweet! I sense the return of Two Face! :thumbup:
That's really great, Tomato!
Will your mesh also have a gun?
Quote from: laughing paradox on July 28, 2009, 07:05:23 PM
That's really great, Tomato!
Will your mesh also have a gun?
The base mesh will not, because I've got it on MB keys and I think if people need to they can find a couple dozen ways to get it working. As for the second mesh to come out of this... he might have one or two sets of guns, perhaps.
Will we get a female_basic_supermodel? I've always wanted a very slim female basic body.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on July 29, 2009, 01:13:01 AM
Will we get a female_basic_supermodel? I've always wanted a very slim female basic body.
Depends... the base mesh I've got in mind is definitely going to be skinnier then the "Female Basic" models (With a smaller but more shapely chest area... Irrational really failed there, methinks) but I don't know about supermodel. What I'm mainly looking at doing is a more classic looking Comic Book-type heroine body, which is what I never saw in the Irrational basics... though, keep in mind this is only conceptual stuff. Having not sat down and actually worked on it at all, what's in my head and what I end up with = two different things.
Also...
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5395/twofacef.jpg)
Two-Face! :-)
Don't you mean: Two-Face! !-?
So... Colossus_TM is up on Meshworks, since I finally got around to writing my readme today. Enjoy!
^_^
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4016/twofacer.jpg)
tired now.
nice. :thumbup:
Oh my God that is so great.
...I hate that I prefer bald Two-Face. Can that be skoped off?
Quote from: Gremlin on August 01, 2009, 05:50:00 AM
Oh my God that is so great.
...I hate that I prefer bald Two-Face. Can that be skoped off?
The hair? Yeah. I'm making a second hair mesh as well, for a more TDK-style hair.
Quote from: Tomato on August 01, 2009, 06:14:57 AM
Quote from: Gremlin on August 01, 2009, 05:50:00 AM
Oh my God that is so great.
...I hate that I prefer bald Two-Face. Can that be skoped off?
The hair? Yeah. I'm making a second hair mesh as well, for a more TDK-style hair.
Nice. Although, again, that hair looks phenomenal.
EDIT: Oh, what about alpha-enabling it to get it patchy, if someone wanted?
I can't wait to see this one completed. :thumbup: The one critique that I do have is the hair. I think that it's a little too anime-esque on both sides. Here's a couple of good examples of the hair.....
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/blkcasanova247/bianche20twoface20croppmj5.jpg)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/blkcasanova247/twoface_31.jpg)
Everybody has there own interpretations of the hair but to me these are the examples of his hair done right....one side is completely controlled and other out of control. If you wanted to go with something a little more modern.....
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/blkcasanova247/bm_scare_2_face_yo_cv.jpg)
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3545/twoface.jpg) -Adjusted the Bangs a bit, is that Better?
@Grem: I could do that... though it's not really a piece designed for it. There's no backfaces to it at all.
You're getting a great bunch of meshes going there, Tomato. That Colossus is really great!
Dana
Quote from: Tomato on August 01, 2009, 06:09:26 PM
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3545/twoface.jpg) -Adjusted the Bangs a bit, is that Better?
I might lose the bangs altogether...but I'm kinda starting to see your perspective the more that I look at it.
coin flip animation he's gotta have it in the idle
Would Two-Face be able to weild two rings?
Quote from: Xenolith on August 02, 2009, 02:00:01 PM
Would Two-Face be able to weild two rings?
... I'm sorry, this might be my tiredness talking but... WTF?
Anyway... on another note... I've looked back through some of my/my dad's comic archives, and I'm beginning to see your original point Cas. Personally, I prefer this look for him, but doubling up on my hair types isn't hard. The hard part was that messiness, which can be duplicated now that it's made.
Speaking of that archives thing... if there's any particular stories involving two face you think I should check out, list it here... I'm on a bit of a comic reading binge now, so I'll look back/look for a copy of anything you suggest.
Drive Sinestro crazy; yellow or green ring/corps depending on the flip of a coin? I may have to skin that.
Coin flip animation: gotta have it in the Power animation too.
... or... waitaminute... could you have the coin toss be a kind of transform animation between Twoface good and Twoface Bad?
Now, that would be cute: every once in a while he transforms back and forth between two alternate "forms" identical except one is Generic Villain and one is Generic Hero. Would this work?
i think taht could work...accidental change with a timer/random would do the trick for the transformation. then the problem of good bad you'd have to manually add him to the kind of list cops and thugs uses in the core game (i'm not much into scripting...)
tomato: if you're looking for good Two Faces story:
_Batman: The Long Halloween (1996/1997) is probably where you'll want to start (very good story, and a real mystery about who's on what side)
_Batman Annual 14 (1990) is a good origin story of the character, really going deep into the character motivation
_BAtman: Faces (1992) has two face as a main character, but i don't really remember the plot...something about creating a nation for circus freak if i remember well
two faces mesh is amazing
I'm honestly not that big on hero files, but wouldn't having a 50% chance of going berserk accomplish the same sort of thing? I dunno, not quite my area.
Finished off the last of my double duo of hair meshes... thought I'd show them off before I got to work on my next major piece.
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1013/twofaceb2.jpg)(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3710/twofaceb1.jpg)(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1271/twoface2.jpg)
*looks at next big piece and cringes* Meh... sorry guys, this might take awhile.
I think you hit it right on the head (pun intended) brother! :lol: :thumbup:
Ok guys, I've got the day off tomorrow, and I think I'd like to spend the day dabbling on a few different pieces... Begin work on my female mesh most likely, some different pieces for Two-Face, that sort of thing. On that note, since invariably some of those meshes will be guns for Two-Face... I was wondering if anoyone had any specific weapons they think I should include. My to-do list ATM is...
-A .22 caliber pistol (with a hexable baby-bottle silencer, ala LH)
-Two Generic Double-barrel pistols
-A Generic Double-barrel Shotgun.
I'm not really a gun person though, so any ideas or whatever would be appreciated.
Quote from: Tomato on August 04, 2009, 05:11:16 AM
Ok guys, I've got the day off tomorrow, and I think I'd like to spend the day dabbling on a few different pieces... Begin work on my female mesh most likely, some different pieces for Two-Face, that sort of thing. On that note, since invariably some of those meshes will be guns for Two-Face... I was wondering if anoyone had any specific weapons they think I should include. My to-do list ATM is...
-A .22 caliber pistol (with a hexable baby-bottle silencer, ala LH)
-Two Generic Double-barrel pistols
-A Generic Double-barrel Shotgun.
I'm not really a gun person though, so any ideas or whatever would be appreciated.
I think you'd be good with just the pistol or a revolver. The other guns would be great but ultimately superfluous in my mind. How's it going with your "female_basic" mesh?
Not at all, heh... I've been kinda distracted of late. Like, I'll get really creative at night but I end up having to go to bed due to work, or I'll plan to spend a day doing stuff and then play a video game all day (Current game of choice=Lego Batman DS). I am, at least for now, motivated to work on Two-Face though, so we'll see how that goes... I need to send some PMs and make a request topic first though.
Don't make me come to England to "motivate" you myself. :angry: I am a "terrible" task master to my subordinates and work...but it all gets done. No more video games or I'll crush your head like a grape. :angry: :P In all seriousness I get it man...sometimes I get home so late that all I wanna do is veg-out. But like you I'm a night owl so most of my creativity comes at night. I'm sure that the motivation will hit you when it hits you. ;)
Umm... you can go to England all you want Cas... I live in Maryland. :huh:
Like I said...I'll come to Maryland. :P Don't correct me I knowz what I sayin'...maybe not. I don't know why I thought that. :huh: :doh:
Those Tomatos can be tricky vegetables. I mean fruits! See how they do that. :P
Quote from: Xenolith on August 07, 2009, 12:19:20 AM
Those Tomatos can be tricky vegetables. I mean fruits! See how they do that. :P
vegetable, fruit, whatever. :D he can still be squashed if he doesnt get back to work on two-face :P
I'm curious how I can get back to work when I've been squished.
The threat of "squashing" is ever present...thats what you should keep in mind as you work. :P
Oooooor... I can watch Burn Notice for now, and then work on it later... while keeping the episode in my mind.
I believe in tomato
i can't believe no one got to that joke before me
Quote from: Gremlin on August 08, 2009, 12:38:11 AM
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on August 07, 2009, 12:13:05 PM
I believe in tomato
Funny, nobody else does.
Just for that, everyone else gets the mesh and you don't.
Really guys, I've got 3 guns to mesh, and that's about it. I'm already talking to skinner(s) and animators. It's coming this time.
Quote from: Tomato on August 08, 2009, 03:01:57 AMJust for that, everyone else gets the mesh and you don't.
:(
Edit: I've removed the original content of this post because it was posted in anger and blamed them for something that was more a product of laziness then outright spite against me, for which (if he read it before this edit) I apologize. In short: I have to edit the standard for my male_basic_tm mesh today rather then work on the two-face mesh like I'd planned, but the upside is that the three MB variants should be up by tomorrow.
I did, however, have a question for the skinners/meshers here... I still have yet to start my female mesh, but I just came across Artemis' excellent re-skin of Eve... and it occurs to me that with some minor tweaking (and some major re-mapping) Eve is far closer to a super-heroine build, IMO, then the female basic-types. Now, it means more work on my end (remapping, rephysique, etc) but... would you guys prefer Eve as a base?
Hi Tomato....my preference is female_versatile. I have liked some of the meshes that Renegade and YL have come up with off of that mapping...
Just a thought....
Quote from: Sioux City Dynamo on August 10, 2009, 03:12:44 AM
Hi Tomato....my preference is female_versatile. I have liked some of the meshes that Renegade and YL have come up with off of that mapping...
Just a thought....
See, I've looked at that one also, but unfortunately it shares many of the same proportion issues as the other female_Basic meshes... all three seem short, have twiggy arms (FV is probably the best of those, but still not great) cartoonishly short torso, and malformed bo... er... chest, and wide hips. Really, Irrational's "basic" female meshes are plain bad in general. Eve, on the other hand... I'd obviously want to remap her so she isn't character-specific, but there isn't nearly as much actual "mesh work" nescessarily... there are a few issues, but I can correct those easier then I would with the other meshes.
Now, I don't mean to belittle the suggestion... originally my plan had been to use either Female_longhair or Female_Versatile and work from there. But Eve really is just a much better mesh.
In the meantime, here's the completed version of Male_Basic_TM, as well as it's variants, Male_FullMask_TM and Male_DPMask_TM.
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2651/malebasictm.jpg)(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2332/malefullmask.jpg)(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5889/maledpmask.jpg)
All three meshes will soon be included on NPI.
They are looking pretty cool.
I think Eve would be a really good choice to base this new mesh on. The Eve hair of course would need to go....but the basic build is good....I do get the feeling that she's gonna take some work. I'm really not a fan of the female basic or female versitile and she is an infinitely better choice. I also like the body on Green Genie...she'd probably take even more work (exported as obj file...rigged...head, neck and feet remeshed and remap the whole shebang.) . I hope that with Eve you'll consider doing different builds....a little slimmer and shorter for a teen...a little taller, more muscular with larger breasts for the more "classic" Super Woman archtype and even something in between. Oh and by the way...fantastic work on those male basics! :thumbup:
I love the idea of using the Eve mesh. It's always been my favorite female mesh, but with the awkward mapping it's hard to do most characters with it.
Also: Does your new male_basic_tm mesh use specific keyframes or is it bale_basic compatable? I'm excited about trying out your new mesh.
Quote from: Ewzzy on August 10, 2009, 05:14:13 AM
I love the idea of using the Eve mesh. It's always been my favorite female mesh, but with the awkward mapping it's hard to do most characters with it.
Also: Does your new male_basic_tm mesh use specific keyframes or is it bale_basic compatable? I'm excited about trying out your new mesh.
It's
male_basic compatible, yes. I'm not that good an animator, and I figure MB keys are the most versatile anyway.
Hey Tomatoe, I love your work man! Can I ask youi a favour though? You're RedAnt_V2 mesh is great and I plan on using it for a House Of M Ironman. But it;s missing some stuff and has some it doesn't. Could you either release r send me a skope of the mesh without the shoulder pads and, if possible, with a gundam-esque head? I know it's a big ask, but if anyman can you can!
Are you trying to tell me it isn't compatible with Christian Bale's keyframes? That's just irresponsible.
Curse my bad typing!
Quote from: ghazkul on August 10, 2009, 04:56:28 PM
Hey Tomatoe, I love your work man! Can I ask youi a favour though? You're RedAnt_V2 mesh is great and I plan on using it for a House Of M Ironman. But it;s missing some stuff and has some it doesn't. Could you either release r send me a skope of the mesh without the shoulder pads and, if possible, with a gundam-esque head? I know it's a big ask, but if anyman can you can!
First, it's a skope, not a mesh... uses mostly pieces from Tommy's Iron Man-type meshes with only a few additional pieces of mine. Second, I'm not going to... what you ask is fairly simple to do in nifskope, and I would encourage you to do it yourself.
hey tomato any chance of seeing teen versions of the male basic meshes?
Quote from: Mystik on August 10, 2009, 10:32:06 PM
hey tomato any chance of seeing teen versions of the male basic meshes?
I want to make some, yes. I'd like to do something along the lines of a Ren's Superboy build, but which will use the regular old MB keys...
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8767/teenrwp.jpg)
Curse you Mystik, I worked on this all day instead of two face (also, reason meshes won't be up is twofold... one, I'm lazy, but two I discovered an issue with my male_basic_tm max... corrected now, but it took me an hour or so to fix... had to move vertecies back into place from the torso down)
As for this Teen mesh... looking for any input you all might have.
Very cool bro! Very cool indeed! :thumbup: I think you hit it right. ;)
oooo teen mesh. Podmark needs. Seriously teens will be like 60% of my skinning output over the next year. All those darn X-kids won't skin themselves.
How does it compare in size to Male_basic?
EDIT: The only things I might suggest right now is maybe a rounder head, but I'm not even sure that is necessary, and if possible maybe less broad shoulders.
Quote from: Podmark on August 11, 2009, 04:16:46 AM
oooo teen mesh. Podmark needs. Seriously teens will be like 60% of my skinning output over the next year. All those darn X-kids won't skin themselves.
How does it compare in size to Male_basic?
EDIT: The only things I might suggest right now is maybe a rounder head, but I'm not even sure that is necessary, and if possible maybe less broad shoulders.
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9145/teeng.jpg) -waiting for more critique from murs (he's "working on it") before I say final, but here's a vastly updated preview for the teen mesh, which should be a bit clearer without max's stupid lighting idiocy.
In terms of size... right now it's probably slightly higher then MB, but I'm gonna shrink it down to ~.93 using the handle node, so that it can still use the MB keys
that looks great, cant wait 2 get my hands on it (got a few skopes waiting)
I was gonna release what I had (the Male Basics+Teen) sometime this morning... but I think I'll wait until AA finally sees this thread before I release the teen mesh. Partly because I'd value his opinion on any alterations to make, but mostly because I wanna see his reaction to it before I release it :P.
In the meantime... to prove I haven't been ENTIRELY slacking off playing vidjamagames, here's something that took me most of today to finish. It's a Double Barrel Handgun, one of 3 weapons (this one will be used in both hands) for the Two Face mesh.
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5900/gunt.png)
I should point out, however, that the material on it is Max's chrome effect, in lieu of any skin work.
I would just like to agree here that the Eve mesh is a good choice for your new female mesh. :)
The new male basic and male basic teen mesh both look ok to me.
Any chance they will be compatible for male cape keyframes too?
I'd be very interested to see how your female teen mesh would look like if ever there would be one in the future. :P
Oh and great job on the double barrel handgun. :cool:
Quote from: Outcast on August 14, 2009, 08:48:16 AM
Any chance they will be compatible for male cape keyframes too?
Not really, but adding the cape node is an easy skope. On the off chance I have time tomorrow before or after work I'll include it. Need to double-check some stuff in the zips anyway... most everything is done (not doing portraits here, I don't expect you guys to use "naked" superheroes) just need to spend a few minutes putting together thumbnail pics... but not tonight. Work tomorrow, need sleep. Niiight.
Male_Basic_TM and it's derivatives are up finally. Have fun!
Sweet!
:thumbup:
You know...this means I have to create a new Male_Basic_TM folder. My original Male_Basic_TM folder was for all my MB Taskmaster basic meshes. Now I have to rename, resort, redo, re[insert appropriate word] my folders. errrrrrrrrrr..... damn kids.......
Shakes fist at Tomatoe! :)
~Z23~
Excellent, will check out next time I'm home.
Got the new meshes tonight. Already working on a character for the Teen mesh. New mapping is going to bug me at first though.
Oh, trust me, I fully expect it to get on everyone's nerves... But, in the long run, it IS more versatile.
Also, an announcement: I noticed something odd about the face shape... you can only really see it at certain angles, but basically the area right beneath the cheakbones was jutting back really bad... can't think of a better way to put it offhand :wacko:. I re-uploaded the zip and took the opportunity to add the max file this time around.
Quote from: Tomato on August 17, 2009, 05:12:30 PM
Oh, trust me, I fully expect it to get on everyone's nerves... But, in the long run, it IS more versatile.
Actually it didn't take long to fix up. Granted I didn't do anything with the subtler details yet but I will in future skins.
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7450/gun2k.png)
Just to show I haven't forgotten Two-Face... it's just Guns are hard :P
wow :thumbup:
Nicely done. ;)
Ok, so. Long story short, Windows Vista is a memory-hogging jerkface. Now, it has been this for awhile, but it has now reached a point where I cannot even access my Virtual PC so I can run Max 5... as well as making other things more difficult then they have to be. I've got so many things I want to do right now (four full-blown meshes and one halfway mesh are on my current "ASAP" to-do list, not to mention skins and such I want to do) I'm going to permanently fix the situation... by getting XP as my OS.
So yeah, I probably won't be able to update any of meshes for a few days while I go through and set everything back up... also, I'm going in for my military physical tuesday, which can be a good or bad thing depending on how things go. I'll keep you guys posted.
Good luck man!
Good luck 'Mato!
On a less important note, the guns look good.
without going into too much detail, I'm gonna be off the net for awhile. Not a bad "ZOMG he's in trouble" off, just RL is sometimes a pain off. I should be back to full-swing soon, but how soon I don't even know. In the meantime though, wanted to let you know I haven't died or anything.
hope everything works itself out alright. good luck.
I know how that goes man. Take it easy bro...we'll be seein' ya soon. ;)
Hope things get better for you in RL. :mellow:
Glad you aren't being hunted by the feds, or anything man. ;) Take ite easy, we'll be here when you get back.
Still not back online exactly, but my comp is working a bit better.
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2860/stockyd.jpg)
did this purely from memory (since I didn't have access to HQ's original image at the time) so I'll definitely be tweaking it some more... in the meantime, feel free to critique anything you see wrong with him.
nice a build like that could really work for a lot of characters, that the likes of male_heavy are just wrong for
Can we get a side view of that Stocky mesh?
That is the build I've always wanted for Coipel's Thor. Awesome!
Quote from: AfghanAnt on September 12, 2009, 11:04:30 PM
That is the build I've always wanted for Coipel's Thor. Awesome!
I hear another update coming. What is this like the 4th time :P
Cool mesh, must think what I can use it for....
Quote from: Podmark on September 12, 2009, 11:10:21 PM
Quote from: AfghanAnt on September 12, 2009, 11:04:30 PM
That is the build I've always wanted for Coipel's Thor. Awesome!
I hear another update coming. What is this like the 4th time :P
Cool mesh, must think what I can use it for....
More like 6th...
did a little photo editing rather than just describing where i think a few improvements in contour can help. Right now... the body while definately thicker... isn't too unlike Ren's 'older' superman in form. ie thicker but still which an athletic 'V', waist slimmer than chest. Rather than the 'I ate a few too many burgers'... 'O', equal or wider waist diameter to chest. Slight adjust on hips and upper thigh accordingly.
(http://newpowerinc.com/hqsamples/stocky.jpg)
If I might add to HQ's points: maybe a bit rounder face, so the cheeks aren't as chiseled (I know the base skin helps create this illusion in the preview) amd a bit thiker neck, that is roughly the same diameter as the head. But so far, good work. It will add a good deal more variety to the game. I certainly look forward to skoping with this toy.
You'll have to forgive me if this is a bit short, typing this on PS3.
@HQ: I definitely see your point, though I might make this male_stocky and then do male_football or something, especially since I know Ren's Superman has (or I think it does) that character-specific hair like Superboy has.
@DocC: Heh... It's ironic you mention the face... I actually made some modifications after the initial preview, but I didn't feel like going through and making another screen.
Quote from: Tomato on September 13, 2009, 05:08:22 PM
You'll have to forgive me if this is a bit short, typing this on PS3.
@HQ: I definitely see your point, though I might make this male_stocky and then do male_football or something, especially since I know Ren's Superman has (or I think it does) that character-specific hair like Superboy has.
@DocC: Heh... It's ironic you mention the face... I actually made some modifications after the initial preview, but I didn't feel like going through and making another screen.
That must have taken AGES to do on a ps3....unless you have a keyboard for it.
Great work on this mesh so far T! It's great to see more body type variations. I definately like the idea of male_stocky for this and then making further adjustments for \further body types. Great work!
Quote from: Tomato on September 13, 2009, 05:08:22 PM
@HQ: I definitely see your point, though I might make this male_stocky and then do male_football or something, especially since I know Ren's Superman has (or I think it does) that character-specific hair like Superboy has.
That'd be cool...cause I like the physique on it.
Really nice build on the stocky mesh Tomato. A great alternative to the male heavy mesh. This one's definitely needed. :thumbup: :cool:
Meh, I wish I had that keyboard attachment... looked at it when I picked up Arkham Asylum and was just like... f*** that's too much.
Anyway, few updates on my end... split by mesh/project.
Two-face: Mk, so, guns are hard. Most of the relatively small periods I've been meshing since my last post have been spent trying to wring some kind of coherent UV map from the double-barrel and the .22 . I spent somewhere upwards of 6 hours just mapping ONE gun, probably more. Right now I'm about halfway or so done with the .22, and finished, minus later tweeks, with the DBP. As for the shotgun... well, the way things are going, if I wait until that's done to release him... expect it in 2012 or so. Really, this is the stuff burn outs are made of. So yeah, what'll probably happen is I'll put out a shotgun less version, possibly do a v2 when I'm not sick of guns.
HQ project: honestly, I haven't opened the max in awhile... don't know why honestly... really, tis the easiest of my main 3 projects. *shrug*
part 1 end
part 2, because the PS3 only lets me put so much text in at once >.>
female_basic_TM: Still in the beginning stages on this one, pulled it up a few minutes ago to maybe get some work in on it, but APPARENTLY my comp's power chord got pulled out awhile ago so it died before I could do very much, other then see what I'm dealing with... meh. Eve might be less of a hassle then FB on the remeshing front, but not much. fun times, heh
anyway, getting a bit sleepy, been a bit sick-ish the last few days, plus some pink eye nastiness today. later.
Deep UV is a nice little program for mapping.
As far as female meshes, I mostly go with a female_versatile base because it is bald. Growing hair from a bald mesh is much easier than making different heads or making a head with hair bald (okay, not in RL).
Quote from: yell0w_lantern on September 25, 2009, 03:56:02 PM
Deep UV is a nice little program for mapping.
As far as female meshes, I mostly go with a female_versatile base because it is bald. Growing hair from a bald mesh is much easier than making different heads or making a head with hair bald (okay, not in RL).
heh, I actually use deep uv. guns are just... harder then most other objects.
As for FV... you'd be right, except that, were I to use FV, I'd still be hosed. My intent with the TM FB is that we finally get a mesh that has good proportions, which FV doesn't have, IMHO.
the issue with Eve has less to do with the head/back area, but with the hips... they basically meshed the belt in, so the shaping is odd and not symetric
Still, I
could be sitting there for 3 hours fixing FV's bust.
Whats the mapping going to end up like on the new female? I'm less likely to use it if it's not similar to female_basic. Also a bald head is essential I think.
A female with a better build would be a welcome addition.
In all probability, the mapping will be similar to FB in the same way male_basic_TM was similar to MB. Alterations for the additional finger spaces, remapped feet, etc. The one major difference will be the head... I don't know about everyone else, but I personally despise the way some bald meshes are mapped, with the back of the head separated.
In all honesty though, I might just opt for a new mapping scheme once I get started. While I don't exactly relish the idea of a departure from the norm, FB mapping was clearly designed to focus on detail for the hair, which isn't nescessary anymore.
*shrug* we'll see. I'm not quite there yet, so it's all conjecture right now. in the meantime, got the base mesh done today, I'm mostly happy with the shape, with one exception that I can't really deal with until later. I might do some more after work, but it all depends on how I feel
Yeah I'm fine with a remapped head. Vertex did that, even Irrational did with the FV.
3 hours on her bust? :huh: Dude, just make a new mesh.
You could cut out Eve's hips and swap in some one else's.
I love Eve's proportion by I hate the mapping. Also boobies that don't warp the texture.
Quote from: yell0w_lantern on September 25, 2009, 08:22:40 PMDude, just make a new mesh.
that'd be essentially what I'd be doing... what with reshaping the bust, hips, face, hands, shoulders, and feet.
What'll probably happen is that I'll release 3 female builds based on what I have... Amazon (basic Eve build, for Wonder Woman-type chars) Basic (a bit leaner then Eve, the kind of build I'd expect for Catwoman or Phoenix) and finally Teen (Wonder Girl, Batgirl, etc.) Rather then waste space adding some silly generic hairs, I'll leave them bare bones for easier skoping use.
Quote from: Tomato on September 26, 2009, 03:31:37 AM
Quote from: yell0w_lantern on September 25, 2009, 08:22:40 PMDude, just make a new mesh.
that'd be essentially what I'd be doing... what with reshaping the bust, hips, face, hands, shoulders, and feet.
What'll probably happen is that I'll release 3 female builds based on what I have... Amazon (basic Eve build, for Wonder Woman-type chars) Basic (a bit leaner then Eve, the kind of build I'd expect for Catwoman or Phoenix) and finally Teen (Wonder Girl, Batgirl, etc.) Rather then waste space adding some silly generic hairs, I'll leave them bare bones for easier skoping use.
That sounds prefect. Especially the teen stuff.
Ok, so, quickie update before I either watch some dbz or go to bed (still undecided) admittedly been in burnout type 4(type 1='NEVER SKINNING/MESHING AGAIN(maybe)!' type 2='I'm so sick of this project but I feel obligated to do it before anything else so I just won't do anything ' type 3 ='general overload of attempted projects' and type 4='I should probably skin/mesh... OH A VIDJAMAGAME!!!!!11') but I'm better now, I guess. I just switched over to windows 7 this week, which is definately a good thing for my meshing capabilities... it still won't open max 5 directly, but through their 'windows xp mode' thing I'm running more or less like I would be on certain earlier, better OSes.
As for what that means for everyone else... I spent some serious time today on Female_Amazon_TM, I should have it done fairly soon, maybe even this weekend if I'm not playing CO too much. Male stocky and football will probably be uploaded to NPI at about the same time. Suit/Two-Face will take some time, simply due to the skins
Great news 'mato! :thumbup:
Here are some screen shots for you, mostly to show off the new chest mapping of the Female mesh
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8861/fbfront.jpg)(http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9379/fbside.jpg)
And just to prove that the mapping isn't just me making lines match up to conveniently look right, here are jpegs of the wireframe and preview tga
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1153/wire512.jpg)(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4562/femalebasic.jpg)
virtually no warpage!
*licks tomato*
Ack!
*Pours bleach in eyes*
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!
Is excited.
Great job on the warp free female mesh Tomato.
:kingbe-thumbup:
Looking forward to try out the other meshes as well. :)
excellent, superb work my friend
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6351/maleffs.jpg)
All up on NPI now.
Heh I could actually skin Microbe now. But would I want to?
I applaud this.
Not the skinning of Mircobe. The meshes.
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4188/femalebasictm.jpg)
I've decided to make my "Amazon" rendition a bit more like AA's recent Starfire, so that it'll be built more like She-Hulk than Eve. As such, I've gone ahead and made my base female mesh what I consider 'basic,' as well as made some minor updates to the UV map(mostly around the face). Feel free to comment on it, I have no illusions about having perfect judgement, so let me know what you think.
From what I can see she looks good - can we see the wireframe?
grah.. I will, but I can't tonight. My computer can only connect via dsl, which I can't get to ATM, and my PS3 won't allow me to upload images and files :(
I should have it up tomorrow... possibly the 'complete' mesh too, but I'll give it a day or so for you guys to nitpick.
how tall is she compared to the normal female basic
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on November 09, 2009, 09:06:14 AM
how tall is she compared to the normal female basic
@TUE: She should be about as tall as female basic. Thing is, it's so easy to change the "height" via nifskope (by adjusting the size of the handle node) that I normally leave the scale alone in max. In the end, if only the handle node is mucked with, it doesn't cause as many problems when you move over extras.
@AA: Here's the new wireframe for you
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1153/wire512.jpg)
For those few of you I sent the unedited version, you'll notice a few additions too. As to what they're for, well... let's just say I do listen to some of what's said in the body type tread.
Speaking of...
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8804/amazon.jpg)
Looks good, Tomato.
I'm curious, on the wiremap, what are the pieces underneath the arm on the left side?
Will you be releasing a base skin with these, like with your male meshes?
Looking Great!
I still haven't had a chance to play around with the new meshes yet!
Quote from: laughing paradox on November 10, 2009, 08:19:33 AM
Will you be releasing a base skin with these, like with your male meshes?
Underneath the arm are actually two different sets... the smaller ones are the inside of the fingers, and the larger one is for a variant section of the boot.
Quote from: laughing paradox on November 10, 2009, 08:19:33 AM
Will you be releasing a base skin with these, like with your male meshes?
That is currently my intent, yes. I want to release bases with most of these skins, even if I have to make one myself...
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9145/teeng.jpg)
I appreciate that you are sharing the process of skin creation. From the standpoint of someone who isn't yet a skinner, the process is fascinating and educational.
Thats what I've been waiting for! I hope you guys like X-kids because I'll be putting these to use one day.
These are awesome!
Quote from: Tomato on November 10, 2009, 06:25:52 PM
Underneath the arm are actually two different sets... the smaller ones are the inside of the fingers, and the larger one is for a variant section of the boot.
Insides of the fingers? Wow that's intricate.
A good place for tatoos. I have a friend with teardrops on the insides of his index fingers. So when he does the "crybaby" expression, you can actually see the teardrops. so funny.
Hopefully we'll be seeing a Pixie soon from you Pod!
Quote from: detourne_me on November 11, 2009, 04:34:14 AM
Insides of the fingers? Wow that's intricate.
A good place for tatoos. I have a friend with teardrops on the insides of his index fingers. So when he does the "crybaby" expression, you can actually see the teardrops. so funny.
Hopefully we'll be seeing a Pixie soon from you Pod!
I actually have the same sort of thing for my Male meshes as well... mainly because I know from experience how much of a pain fingered meshes can be when you want to skin a character with differently colored fingers.
Hey 'Mato, these are looking good! It looks like you may have tweaked the knee joint on your amazon a bit after our conversation, but I think you should tweak just a bit more. The size of the joint itself doesn't quite fit the build.
that female basic looks great. im looking forward to using...someday. :(
so, the three female meshes are all zipped up(Amazon has been updated per Benton's critique), my copy of the page has been modified, and everything is all set for me to upload it... tomorrow.
Quote from: Tomato on November 11, 2009, 11:22:28 PM
so, the three female meshes are all zipped up(Amazon has been updated per Benton's critique), my copy of the page has been modified, and everything is all set for me to upload it... tomorrow.
Tomorrow?! But I want it now! :thumbdown:
Nah just messing with ya. You've done some great work here Tomato, I really appreciate it all.
sorry, but my PS3 can't do ftp transfers as far as I can tell. So you'll have to wait :P
Quote from: Tomato on November 12, 2009, 04:17:02 AM
sorry, but my PS3 can't do ftp transfers as far as I can tell. So you'll have to wait
No worries, no rush.
Everything is being uploaded now, should be done in a few minutes. Go nuts people!
I've noticed that new female meshes all seem to be off center in nifskope, they're ahead of the vertical axis with the biped behind them in line with it. Is this intentional?
Quote from: Podmark on December 08, 2009, 04:29:16 AM
I've noticed that new female meshes all seem to be off center in nifskope, they're ahead of the vertical axis with the biped behind them in line with it. Is this intentional?
Kind of... I had an issue where the feet were behind the main body whenever I used most keyframes, so I adjusted the body to compensate. *shrug* it's an easy fix to go the other way, I'll fix it sometime today... whenever I get around to it :P.
In the meantime... Something I've been working on off and on.
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3585/bdaddy.jpg)
hmmmm, can't say i know the character
Pfft, how typically like a member of Heroforce to not recognize the leader of New Power Inc.
Quote from: Tomato on December 08, 2009, 09:21:19 PM
Pfft, how typically like a member of Heroforce to not recognize the leader of New Power Inc.
What's a New Power Ink? Some kind of new electric company? :huh:
See, I'd feel worse about that, but I can just chock this up to jealousy over the fact that, between us, HQ and I have updated more often over the last month or so then the four of you COMBINED.
Still, could be worse. You could be a Champion... :P
Quote from: Tomato on December 09, 2009, 01:54:11 AM
See, I'd feel worse about that, but I can just chock this up to jealousy over the fact that, between us, HQ and I have updated more often over the last month or so then the four of you COMBINED.
Ouch low blow.
Quote from: Tomato on December 09, 2009, 01:54:11 AM
Still, could be worse. You could be a Champion... :P
All too true. But you know what I always say...quality over quantity. :rolleyes: :P
we've updated loads, you're just not on the list to see the exclusive content :P
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on December 09, 2009, 06:27:59 PM
we've updated loads, you're just not on the list to see the exclusive content :P
Really? I'll remember that next time I think about offering to mesh for you.
Don't worry though Cas, I'll still do mesh pieces for you lot. You need
someone to help you keep up your "quality."
(in all seriousness guys, I'm just about done with my House Quake mesh. I'll probably be posting pics tomorrow, as well as sending it to HQ)
I see the site wars are in full swing again.
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on December 09, 2009, 06:27:59 PM
we've updated loads, you're just not on the list to see the exclusive content :P
hmmm... maybe I should mention my own exclusive DLC... PM me and I'll respond with my personal Paypal account! :P
Quote from: Tomato on December 10, 2009, 03:39:07 AM
Don't worry though Cas, I'll still do mesh pieces for you lot. You need someone to help you keep up your "quality."
Also very true...touche mon ami. :P Hey I love all this witty banter...but the truth is I could do what I do without you all so...thanks...thanks for making me look even more awesome than I already know I do. :rolleyes: :lol:
(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5923/housequake.jpg)
He comes with two separate wigs (Half and full) and, per HQ's request, Fingered and non-fingered variations. I've been out of touch with HQ of late (he and I seem to be alternating when we choose to be active, heh) but I hope to catch him later on, see if this is adequate.
Quote from: Tomato on December 10, 2009, 08:48:31 PM
(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5923/housequake.jpg)
He comes with two separate wigs (Half and full) and, per HQ's request, Fingered and non-fingered variations. I've been out of touch with HQ of late (he and I seem to be alternating when we choose to be active, heh) but I hope to catch him later on, see if this is adequate.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6818/maleunknown.jpg)
Started this body base by request from one of the other members. I've still got work left (want to refine the arms and edit the head)
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3448/maleunknownc.jpg)
*listens to birds chirpings*
Looks very nice... :thumbup:
Not that I am an expert on body bases.. but it definitly caught my attention.
- CQ
Hi Tomato,
Happy Holidays!
I really like the new base. I am enjoying your new TM meshes and have several skopes skins planned for them. I am happy to see you pulling together something a bit broader than male basic as I believe this is appropriate for a number of characters.
Keep up the great work!!
Respectfully,
Are you doing new keyframes for these, too, or just doing the meshes? I only ask because I dream of one day not having male_heavy keyframes with a male_heavy mesh. :)
Keep up the great work!
Quote from: Xenolith on December 22, 2009, 06:21:46 PM
Are you doing new keyframes for these, too, or just doing the meshes? I only ask because I dream of one day not having male_heavy keyframes with a male_heavy mesh. :)
Keep up the great work!
Meh... much as I'd like to start animating, It's something I'm fairly lost at... Like, I understand basic animation, but the animation structure FF uses confuses me.
However, when it comes to most of my male meshes, including this one, I keep them on a MB frame so as to allow maximum keyframe compatibility.
Speaking of that, however... I'd like to ask about the Heavy and Hulking varieties. Overall, how much use are each of them? What I'm getting at is, the builds I've done and can do are not too far off from MH, outside of the easily adjusted height, and it seems to me I'd be better served just using the Male Hulking frame in conjunction with MB.
But hey, I'm just a lowly mesher here, you guys tell me.
First, let me start by saying that I love this more proportionate version of Male_Heavy (if that's what it truly is).
Second, as far as Heavy or Hulking, I checked all my heroes and found that I actually use both of these meshes with about the same frequency. This includes variations like Grenadier's MHV meshes and Male_Hulking_(character) meshes. I do think that there is or should be a more structural difference for the hulking mesh rather than just a taller, thicker, wider version of male basic.
I don't like male_hulking very much because most of the characters needing that size mesh require a lot of customization to make them look right (like the Abomination) while male_heavy works fairly well for a lot of guys that do not require a lot nifskoping. My only problem with male_heavy kfs is that goof melee_idle animation. I have a lot of problems with the male_heavy animations (such as throwing a punch with the same side hand while stepping with the same side foot). Aargh!
I wish I could find a copy of the software, because I'd love to animate. :lol:
Er... Xenolith, maybe I'm mis-hearing you, but what I'm getting is that you think I should ignore Hulking because it needs more attention from skopers and meshers, but I should adjust Heavy because it's fine how it is. That's a bit... backwards, methinks.
In any case... go check out npi. Something new (http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5222/thbsemalesuittm.jpg) might be up.
I meant that Male_hulking characters will generally fare better with their own mesh, while skoping works fairly well for male_heavy characters. So, having a nice male_heavy base mesh is a really good idea, but a male_hulking may not be that useful. I dunno, that just my impression of the situation.
Tomato, I too think you should forego any male_hulking meshes.
For the most part Renegade's Hulk has replaced male_hulking among skopers - personally I only have a few male_hulking base characters - Abomination, Ulik, BiBeast, and Rhino, all others I've transferred to Ren's Hulk or a male_heavy base.
Grenadier made one or two male_hulking keyframes sets, and IPS had only released a few alternate idles.
Male_heavy has much more diversity in keyframes, from Beast to Darkseid, even Texas Jack's Mister Monster, Hellboy, and Goon.
In all honesty, were I to do either a Hulking or a Heavy, I'd be making some modifications like those of Ren's Hulk... not the mouth anims(leave that stuff to Ren and Vert), but the general build. My main reasoning behind going to hulking over heavy in this case has less to do with build, and more the skeleton... I recently tried doing a Male_Suit_Obese on the MB frame, and it was just too small for the kind of girth that I wanted.
I'm tracking down the max files as we speak, so I'll take a look... I'd prefer Heavy because of it's range of animations, I just worry it'll be to close to MB in terms of general proportion to be of use for body types outside the MB range.
http://www.newpowerinc.com/tomatofiles/two.nif
-Keep in mind, this is only a partial release of the Two-Face mesh, it has no skins, no keys, and no weapons at this stage. it's only for those who want to start skinning/skoping with it now, before it is "complete".
So, expect some news on two-face soon-ish, today if I can hobble over to the library. I have some free time for now, trying to finish themeshwork and get a base skin together.
Sweet! :thumbup:
Awesome 'Mato!
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3420/kentg.jpg)
Bam!
So cool! I can't wait to see this Two Face finished. :)
Wow, looks great. The skinning on the suit looks perfect.
Definitely like the color choices. Had I done it, I probably would have just done black and white like in the animated series and never thought of orange/purple. Yours screams comics Two-Face and is just a more interesting a visual. Very cool. Can't wait to the the face.
This is excellent Thomas. While I'm all for artist interpretation, the choice to go with hot pink for the hair seems a bit out of left field.
Yeah, I thought about doing the Timm black/white, but I chose to do the GA Two-Face because it benefited my style more
As for the hair... would brown work better for you murs?
Nah, I've grown fond of the hot pink. :)
Quote from: Tomato on May 13, 2010, 03:58:20 PM
Yeah, I thought about doing the Timm black/white, but I chose to do the GA Two-Face because it benefited my style more
As for the hair... would brown work better for you murs?
and i'm glad you didn't
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on May 13, 2010, 09:39:12 PM
Quote from: Tomato on May 13, 2010, 03:58:20 PM
Yeah, I thought about doing the Timm black/white, but I chose to do the GA Two-Face because it benefited my style more
As for the hair... would brown work better for you murs?
and i'm glad you didn't
*Gasp!* :D
Mk, so before I stopped and got lunch, I finished the facework and fixed the bugs in the nif. About to head over to the library now, so expect pictures in a little bit.
Edit: And BAM, here they are now.
(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7630/twoi.jpg)
Still have to skin up the hair and hairline(texture in place is a placeholder), but it's good for right now.
Wow let me be the first to say PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
nice tom tom :o
Two face looks great!
On another note did you ever release the muscular/heavy body frame you showed earlier??
Respectfully,
Quote from: Sioux City Dynamo on May 15, 2010, 06:00:17 PM
Two face looks great!
On another note did you ever release the muscular/heavy body frame you showed earlier??
Respectfully,
Huh... apparently not. *shrug* I'll go back and look at it, should be able to upload it later today since I believe it was already done, just not exported.
Mk, Male_Muscular_TM now uploaded to NPI. Now that I've taken a look at it though, the reason I never uploaded it before was because it wasn't exactly a project in it's own right, but a jumping off point for something else... which I'll probably work on next. Depends though, I've got a few things in mind to do, including some redesigned Originals and such.
In the meantime, if someone wants to skope up a set of MB-type keys for Two-Face, it might help me release this before the end of the universe (You know, the next Champion's update.)
Quote from: Tomato on May 15, 2010, 06:52:50 PM
In the meantime, if someone wants to skope up a set of MB-type keys for Two-Face, it might help me release this before the end of the universe (You know, the next Champion's update.)
Done, done, and done!....from a champion! :D ;)
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4552/twofacee.jpg)
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1271/twoface2.jpg)
I got help from Champions one time, ZOMG! And how many times do you all use NPI mesh pieces, hmmm?
:P I kid, I kid. It would be more helpful if you PMed me the files though.
That is just fantastic, 'Mato, absolutely fantastic! Great work man! The detail on his face is really nice.
The face, I mean, the two faces are perfect!
So, I just got done with my own version of the skoped animations, with fully working coin flip animation. I got so focused that it's now 2 AM. Thank goodness I get to sleep in.
Hey mister, no sleeping till after it's released!
Just kidding, looking forward to seeing the coin flip. Sounds like fun. :D
Yeah, that coin flipping animation has been one of the white whales of this community. It will be amazing to see it actually come to light. :D
Two Face is more or less done, need to double check some permissions and such but otherwise I'm all set to release now. Now if only I had access to a connection that isn't limited to my cell phone.
Meh, I should be able to upload it tomorrow after I get done with my 9 hours of sitting around doing nothing (Prior to starting class, they make everyone clean from ~0700 to 1600. I, however, am not even technically supposed to stand for more than 30 minutes, so I can't clean. But I HAVE to be there for the whole thing... I got reprimanded for not staying the whole time.)
Glad to see you back and it always great seeing new material and unique content. :)
Two-Face looks very impressive. Can't wait to have him in the game.
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3259/dctwofacetm.jpg) (http://www.newpowerinc.com/)
This moment is bittersweet... Two Face is one of those meshes that's been on my "To-Do" list for so long I don't know what to do now that it's not there any more I feel a large gaping whole. The fact that it was always there for me to someday do was a constant driving force, something I could work on during days I didn't want to do anything else. And now it's done, I'm happy with it, and I don't have any other never-ending projects left on my plate (only a few transient ones)
*cries in a corner*
Quote from: Tomato on May 17, 2010, 11:08:05 PM
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3259/dctwofacetm.jpg) (http://www.newpowerinc.com/)
This moment is bittersweet... Two Face is one of those meshes that's been on my "To-Do" list for so long I don't know what to do now that it's not there any more I feel a large gaping whole. The fact that it was always there for me to someday do was a constant driving force, something I could work on during days I didn't want to do anything else. And now it's done, I'm happy with it, and I don't have any other never-ending projects left on my plate (only a few transient ones)
*cries in a corner*
I'm sure someone here can find you a new never-ending project, but in the meantime, I am loving the coin flip. Awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdA9qa3q2vE -Just a demo of the coin flip I put together... honestly I had intended it to be up as a teaser yesterday, but I couldn't get to a place with internet between what I had to do that day. But I felt it would be a shame not to upload it, so... whatever.
That is just too cool...haha, I could just about watch that all day.
That's amazing Thomas, really! :thumbup:
All I can say is WoW, WoW, and WoW!!!
The coin flip animation is awesome. I was wondering about the hair. I was sticking my old KB'ed Timmverse Two Face on as a variant and was going to do the hair to match but I don't know how to get it to let me split the hair color. From the hair choices I see I can only do one side and it flips it. Up above Style had done it so I was wondering if the older version was able to have more hair options?
That bloak Style how is he able to do those things! :angry: :P
Any other issues? I'm going to be working on FF stuff primarily on weekends (weekdays are 8 hours of pretty much non-stop classes, after which I'm going to be kicking back playing VGs just to decompress.) so now's the time to get stuff crammed in. No requests mind, but any adjustments to meshes I need to make and all.
I cleaned up the skope and added a wireframe of what I did. It's sitting on my section of Champs site.
So my latest project requires a more... Tomatoized Male_Hulking mesh (might do heavy to just for kicks) I'll post some pics of the adjustments I've already made later, but for now what changes would you all like to see?
The only suggestion I would make, is maybe to have skope-able toes in different configs. And maybe even two and three fingered variety as well. But only if it isn't too much trouble. A lot of the hulking characters have a limited number of digits.
Nice idea about the didgits, if feasable. Other stuff, like claws, horns, or whatever, could be scoped on.
(http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/7084/catwomancompare.jpg)
This is more a skope then a mesh (taking pieces from Ink's mesh and adding some of my own pieces)
Working on Harley too... need to actually mesh some my own pieces for that one.
(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1069/harleycompare.jpg)
BAM, Harley
Cool stuff Tomato. Always good to see those characters get some love.
These look great. I've always been a huge fan of Harley (and Ivy). I really love the work on wrist bands.
Hey nice meshes tomato they look great.
Very nice, 'mato, very nice. As AA said, great detail work on the wrist-bands.
Looking good. :thumbup:
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2wg86ea.png)
Ignore the Damnage skin on this, I just left it from when I did his av for the Freedom Corp project. Mesh is intended for a completely different avatar.
Hey, now that looks beautiful Tomato!
Can't wait to see this finished bro. ;)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2dt8yrn.jpg)
Aaaand done. It's now in the hands of it's owner for the standard skin.
Well that looks quite cool. I'll be interested in seeing the final skin.
M'k, firstly I wanted to settle something... Apparently the person whose avatar this is hadn't been posting because, as he told me, "in case you were keeping it a secret." Putting aside the fact that the design matches Juancho's micro design, the fact that the Deadpool skin I used to preview it was made by the avataree, and the fact that I've already teamed up with him for someone else's avatar... there's a giant M on his belt. It's not a secret!
You know what? Eff it. I was going to come out an tell you, but if you can't figure it out using common sense, you don't deserve to know. Heathens.
Just wanted to add that I've made some more creations today, but I'll leave those for Pod to preview at his own pace (trust me, it'll take more to skin them then it did to mesh). Those, along with the Bat-villainesses and the avatar mesh, are part of a series of collaborations I'm doing with several of the board's skinners. I've offered to collaborate with another person already, but just to add some fun to the mix... I have an additional offer.
In an attempt to bring back some of the life to FR, I will do mesh pieces for at least one collaboration with every skinner willing to come out of retirement/burnout and do 5 more skins. Granted, I'll still get final say as to whether I'm willing to work on a particular project, but still.
Wait, some people couldn't figure out who it is? But it's so obvious! It's M-*blam*blam*blam*
Do gun shots kill zombies??
Quote from: Podmark on August 23, 2010, 02:30:42 AM
Wait, some people couldn't figure out who it is? But it's so obvious! It's M-*blam*blam*blam*
Do gun shots kill zombies??
Only if you shoot them in the head....
Quote from: Podmark on August 23, 2010, 02:30:42 AM
Wait, some people couldn't figure out who it is? But it's so obvious! It's M-*blam*blam*blam*
Do gun shots kill zombies??
No, it's not Barney Rubble's son. Try again, Poddy.
Quote from: Podmark on August 23, 2010, 02:30:42 AM
Do gun shots kill zombies??
Hmm... I think so, if they're sil... no that's werewolves.
I think it depends. I mean, if we're playing by Final Fantasy rules, if the bullets are infused with healing potion, then they'd kill you.
M-*blam*blam*blam*?
Is it Muthah Faddah?
Dana :P
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2meph61.jpg)
preview of the last of pod's collabs. He'll get it as soon as mediafire finishes.
Pod is very happy :thumbup:
mk, so... on one of my many many many many many many many MANY tangents outside of the world of Freedom Force, I discovered a means by which to rip meshes from KH2: Final Mix... still eh about whether I want to try porting them to FF, but for now I'm trying to at least sort them out a bit. However, I'm having a bit of an issue...
DEATH BY SORA VARIANTS! (http://i54.tinypic.com/11bovhg.png)
This is of course not even counting the 6 I can't load (Tron costumes... heh, ironic), the ones I have yet to find (Sora in his preteen clothes, etc), and the high def versions designed for use in cutscenes.
WOW!
mk, so. Updated version of the mantage is up on My DA account (http://tomatoisjphansburg.deviantart.com/art/Over-9000-Sora-178495287) now, because I thought my fellow KH nerds on DA might get a kick out of my insanity. Still no Tron, but filled in much of the missing costumes.
Speaking of kingdom hearts, God apparently hates all of you. He deigned to allow the release of both Shattered Dimensions and Birth by Sleep on the same day. so yeah, my free time is now eaten alive like a drowned murs.
Just give me kh3 god damn it
I've never played KH, but I'm curious, will you be using these meshes for FF tom? cos Lion King Sora looks trés cool
I expect we'll see it soon... I think they're putting out 2 more (one is a port of a cell phone game in japan, other is some bs for the 3ds) but in all honesty, they're just stretching it at this point... unlike 385/2 which was just to fill in the hole between CoM and 2, Birth by Sleep is designed to set up the next legitimate Kingdom Hearts title (as did the cell phone game thus why it's getting ported).
Edit: As far as porting them to FF... I don't know, honestly. Lion Sora probably wond just due to the fact that it would need an entirely new set of animations, which I'm not capable of at this time. If I took something like that on, it'd be for a character that can have a bit more general use... Donald for istance, could be used for Howard or Daffy relatively quickly.
This is AWESOME! Hope to see more soon!
(http://i51.tinypic.com/30tgqxd.jpg)
-On a whim I made a design for Murs' Ultimate DC project... and then he made me mesh it. blah.
I'm not sure what it is, but it looks cool.
Ohmigod...is that..."wiry-blacked out-claw man"? :shock2: He's only like the greatest hero EVER!!!! :thumbup: :P :lol: Sorry Tom...just taking a shot. ;)
I'll let murs reveal who it is whenever he's ready... which should be whenever he stops playing Batman:AA long enough to skin it :P
Trying to get some meshes put together for a mod I'm working on (I've asked for some help with a lot of the skin work... at a month a skin, I'd be all year trying to get everything together :wacko: ). Thought I'd preview some of the meshes designed for the first level, get some early hype going for it.
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/108/glitchr.jpg)
Not a complete skin, but if you can't guess who it is... shame on you.
Is it Murs? I bet it's Murs.
Quote from: Podmark on September 30, 2010, 03:28:19 AM
Is it Murs? I bet it's Murs.
No, but I want it noted that when I mentioned Volt to ya'll via pm, his response was
"I dont even know who that fool is."
I demand that the forum gather together as one mind to smite him.
Quote from: Blkcasanova247 on September 26, 2010, 07:48:23 PM
Ohmigod...is that..."wiry-blacked out-claw man"? :shock2: He's only like the greatest hero EVER!!!! :thumbup: :P :lol: Sorry Tom...just taking a shot. ;)
No! It is Ultimate Wiry-Blacked-Out-Claw-Man! So obvious. *sigh*
Quote from: Podmark on September 30, 2010, 03:28:19 AM
Is it Murs? I bet it's Murs.
I laughed out loud...jerk. <_<
Quote from: Tomato on September 30, 2010, 04:07:50 AM
Quote from: Podmark on September 30, 2010, 03:28:19 AM
Is it Murs? I bet it's Murs.
No, but I want it noted that when I mentioned Volt to ya'll via pm, his response was
"I dont even know who that fool is."
I demand that the forum gather together as one mind to smite him.
That's a lie. Quit trying to make me look bad.
Quote from: murs47 on September 30, 2010, 05:15:20 AM
Quit trying to make me look bad.
You act like that takes any real effort.
For the record, Volt was the founder of Electric Freedom.
I'm glad someone is making a new skin for her. Can't wait to see how the finished skin would look like, but i'm sure it will be jaw dropping. :) A mod featuring some FR avatars sounds great to me. ^_^
Is the Forum Battle Royale still available anywhere?
Quote from: Kenn on September 30, 2010, 04:26:12 PM
Is the Forum Battle Royale still available anywhere?
I think i saw 1 or 2 at Alex's Freedom Fortress. Not sure if that's the one you're looking for Kenn.
Quote from: Podmark on September 30, 2010, 03:28:19 AM
Is it Murs? I bet it's Murs.
Murs is much more shapely than I though he'd be...LOL! ;)
Dana
I kid, Murs.
Quote from: Outcast on September 30, 2010, 04:16:30 PM
A mod featuring some FR avatars sounds great to me. ^_^
Well, I'd say more than a few. I think the first level only has one character I created (compared to 5 from other members), and the second has almost as many avatars as my own characters. Of course, I don't actually have to skin most of those avatars... most are only a few years old and hardly need to be updated.
Good to see some new stuff for the old timers. GG looks great so far.
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9422/randyw.jpg)
Unfortunately this might be the last for a little while... I have to take my computer apart this evening before it succeeds in giving me a seizure(one of the wires going to the laptop monitor is loose, causes the screen to flicker in and out... it's happened before, just a frickin pain to fix), then I have to pack everything up so I can be on a plane to ohio tomorrow morning.
Still, not everything is bad news. I was able to get a set of keys for this guy(again, if I need to tell you...) that I'm happy with, so yay for that.
Bummer about the compy. Good thing it's a semi-quick fix.
Ohio, eh? If you're in the "North-Central" area, gimmie a holler!
Center-west by the look of things... stationed at wright pat right near dayton.
Comp is fixed, trying to stay awake a bit longer so I can sleep through most of the plane ride. Probably call it a night soon though
Dayton? Head about 80 miles northeast and you'll hit the 'Armpit of America' and 'Popcorn Capital of the World' Marion, OH... home of The Hitman's secret lair...
... Which is not so secret anymore, I guess...
Nice to know there'll be more than a few avatars in your mod Tomato. It's really cool of you to give Randy his own set of keys. I'll be sure to check those out too.:)
Quote from: Kenn on September 30, 2010, 04:26:12 PM
Is the Forum Battle Royale still available anywhere?
Oh, there is also this FR Avatar Mod which they updated. It's hosted at FRP 2. http://frp.unlimited2.net/mods/ :)
Wright-Patterson? Be sure to ask them about the grey aliens they keep in the secret hangar. ;)
Quote from: Outcast on October 01, 2010, 03:55:06 PM
Nice to know there'll be more than a few avatars in your mod Tomato. It's really cool of you to give Randy his own set of keys. I'll be sure to check those out too.:)
Quote from: Kenn on September 30, 2010, 04:26:12 PM
Is the Forum Battle Royale still available anywhere?
Oh, there is also this FR Avatar Mod which they updated. It's hosted at FRP 2. http://frp.unlimited2.net/mods/ :)
Well... the keys are mainly by vertex (from his b69 shade mesh) but I gave him a new idle because I couldn't see randy using the other one.
Also, I don't know who this they is you speak of... after the initial release by unko and I, I'm the only one who's dealt with it.
This forum needs more villains btw. The easiest way for me to include you yokels is to have you as villains, and I think there are maybe 20 villain avs on the entire board.
It makes us more desirable.
Belated post, but had to say thank, and that's very cool. Sorry to hear about the computer, hope it wasn't because of that mesh. ;)
No, nothing like that... one of the wires wiggles loose every few months or so on my laptop, and causes the screen to flicker in and out. I'd been putting off fixing it for over a month, but when I was trying to get randy's preview together it got so bad I gave up and fixed it. It just hurt me because I was getting ready to leave for my base, so I essentially had to fix it, run a quick check on it, then pack it up, so I cut into whatever few hours I still had to work on stuff.
Oh, that reminds me... reep, nag murs. He's got like one thing left and he's lazing about doing 20 other skins.
I posted a skin for my avatar's evil twin, will that do?
Quote from: Tomato on October 02, 2010, 01:54:59 AM
Oh, that reminds me... reep, nag murs. He's got like one thing left and he's lazing about doing 20 other skins.
I nagged, but nagging is hard when you don't know what you're nagging for.
bah, I asked him to skin you avatar month ago, along with a few others. he's mostly done too, I've seen it.
Oh!
Right!
Ok!
Cool!
Quote from: Tomato on October 01, 2010, 08:32:30 PM
Also, I don't know who this they is you speak of... after the initial release by unko and I, I'm the only one who's dealt with it.
This forum needs more villains btw. The easiest way for me to include you yokels is to have you as villains, and I think there are maybe 20 villain avs on the entire board.
Sorry, my mistake Tomato. I thought you collaborated with someone making that mod. :doh:
Well if you're running low on villains, you can always even the odds with some henchmen like Randy's Sharkmen. Or you could just mind control, blackmail or cause a disagreement between the heroes to make them fight each other. But you're right, it'd be nice to have more villains around. So....who want's to be a super villain? :P
Quote from: Outcast on October 03, 2010, 01:04:55 PM
Quote from: Tomato on October 01, 2010, 08:32:30 PM
Also, I don't know who this they is you speak of... after the initial release by unko and I, I'm the only one who's dealt with it.
This forum needs more villains btw. The easiest way for me to include you yokels is to have you as villains, and I think there are maybe 20 villain avs on the entire board.
Sorry, my mistake Tomato. I thought you collaborated with someone making that mod. :doh:
Well if you're running low on villains, you can always even the odds with some henchmen like Randy's Sharkmen. Or you could just mind control, blackmail or cause a disagreement between the heroes to make them fight each other. But you're right, it'd be nice to have more villains around. So....who want's to be a super villain? :P
Heh... I did collab with Unko, for the initial release and updates anyway. But a year or so back I pulled the mod out of the basement and updated it with newer hero files and such.
I'm not exactly low on villains... I've got pages of supervillain designs to pull from if I need them. But the easiest was to throw in avatars is when the storyline calls for "Generic villain b" during a larger arc. As for the sharkmen... well, let's just say that I have no shortage of minions.
Have you considered doing meshes for some avatar's arch-enemies? We could have a thread for that somewhere- people could post information/descriptions of their avatar's main enemies, and meshers and skinners could work from that, if they felt like it...
Quote from: Tomato on October 01, 2010, 08:32:30 PM
Quote from: Outcast on October 01, 2010, 03:55:06 PM
Nice to know there'll be more than a few avatars in your mod Tomato. It's really cool of you to give Randy his own set of keys. I'll be sure to check those out too.:)
Quote from: Kenn on September 30, 2010, 04:26:12 PM
Is the Forum Battle Royale still available anywhere?
Oh, there is also this FR Avatar Mod which they updated. It's hosted at FRP 2. http://frp.unlimited2.net/mods/ :)
Well... the keys are mainly by vertex (from his b69 shade mesh) but I gave him a new idle because I couldn't see randy using the other one.
Also, I don't know who this they is you speak of... after the initial release by unko and I, I'm the only one who's dealt with it.
This forum needs more villains btw. The easiest way for me to include you yokels is to have you as villains, and I think there are maybe 20 villain avs on the entire board.
I've always been a villian...just nobody ever took me seriously...course the vodka, flatulance and having Prem and Tiobe as archenemies kinda explains all that...heh.
I would have absolutely no problem being a villain, but my moniker presents a slight problem :doh:
Quote from: Deaths Jester on October 05, 2010, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: Tomato on October 01, 2010, 08:32:30 PM
Quote from: Outcast on October 01, 2010, 03:55:06 PM
Nice to know there'll be more than a few avatars in your mod Tomato. It's really cool of you to give Randy his own set of keys. I'll be sure to check those out too.:)
Quote from: Kenn on September 30, 2010, 04:26:12 PM
Is the Forum Battle Royale still available anywhere?
Oh, there is also this FR Avatar Mod which they updated. It's hosted at FRP 2. http://frp.unlimited2.net/mods/ :)
Well... the keys are mainly by vertex (from his b69 shade mesh) but I gave him a new idle because I couldn't see randy using the other one.
Also, I don't know who this they is you speak of... after the initial release by unko and I, I'm the only one who's dealt with it.
This forum needs more villains btw. The easiest way for me to include you yokels is to have you as villains, and I think there are maybe 20 villain avs on the entire board.
I've always been a villian...just nobody ever took me seriously...course the vodka, flatulance and having Prem and Tiobe as archenemies kinda explains all that...heh.
Uhhh... technically, I'm a "metahuman for hire," so I totally would work as a villian.
Quote from: The Hitman on October 06, 2010, 05:01:19 AM
Uhhh... technically, I'm a "metahuman for hire," so I totally would work as a villian.
And seeing as me and Hitman "worked" together, I could be too. I am kinda an anti hero. I guess Like Punisher or Deadpool.
Mk, I wasn't saying villains don't exist on here (I could name 6 or so more on top of you guys who've posted) but compared to number of heroes, I'd estimate ya'll make up about 20% of the boards... proportionately there are fewer villains than heroes.
Quote from: Tomato on October 06, 2010, 05:30:21 PM
Mk, I wasn't saying villains don't exist on here (I could name 6 or so more on top of you guys who've posted) but compared to number of heroes, I'd estimate ya'll make up about 20% of the boards... proportionately there are fewer villains than heroes.
Now that is true..though most of us villianious types have our cronies to fall back on...Randy has Shark Men..I've got undead jalapeneos..Prem, well, nobody loves Prem!!
Quote from: Deaths Jester on October 08, 2010, 04:09:55 PM
...Prem, well, nobody loves Prem!!
I'm sure someone does...somewhere...maybe.
Quote from: murs47 on October 08, 2010, 05:06:27 PM
Quote from: Deaths Jester on October 08, 2010, 04:09:55 PM
...Prem, well, nobody loves Prem!!
I'm sure someone does...somewhere...maybe.
Please. You muckbuckets won't stop mentioning my twin, so you both obviously love him. How pathetic you monkeys are. What, did he refuse your advances and now you're taking out your wrath on him like jilted exes? How fitting for two lame peas in a pod. Someone will like you platypuses some day. Well, Murs, maybe not you. You're a nobody. But DJ has a chance... a very small, almost non-existent chance of finding........ someone that'll tolerate his musk.
Quote from: Previsionary on October 08, 2010, 05:32:54 PM
Quote from: murs47 on October 08, 2010, 05:06:27 PM
Quote from: Deaths Jester on October 08, 2010, 04:09:55 PM
...Prem, well, nobody loves Prem!!
I'm sure someone does...somewhere...maybe.
Please. You muckbuckets won't stop mentioning my twin, so you both obviously love him. How pathetic you monkeys are. What, did he refuse your advances and now you're taking out your wrath on him like jilted exes? How fitting for two lame peas in a pod. Someone will like you platypuses some day. Well, Murs, maybe not you. You're a nobody. But DJ has a chance... a very small, almost non-existent chance of finding........ someone that'll tolerate his musk.
See, that right there? That's why no one loves you.
Quote from: Tomato on October 08, 2010, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: Previsionary on October 08, 2010, 05:32:54 PM
Quote from: murs47 on October 08, 2010, 05:06:27 PM
Quote from: Deaths Jester on October 08, 2010, 04:09:55 PM
...Prem, well, nobody loves Prem!!
I'm sure someone does...somewhere...maybe.
Please. You muckbuckets won't stop mentioning my twin, so you both obviously love him. How pathetic you monkeys are. What, did he refuse your advances and now you're taking out your wrath on him like jilted exes? How fitting for two lame peas in a pod. Someone will like you platypuses some day. Well, Murs, maybe not you. You're a nobody. But DJ has a chance... a very small, almost non-existent chance of finding........ someone that'll tolerate his musk.
See, that right there? That's why no one loves you.
Silly, Tom. Your opinion is as important as Paris Hilton's thoughts on politics. Let's keep that in mind the next time you feel the need to open that mouth of yours. Lemme make it simpler: don't speak. Don't say another word.
But, but, but...I think Paris Hilton is an intellectual giant, and her philisophical views on global politics has always been on the verge of groundbreaking.
Quote from: Previsionary on October 08, 2010, 10:22:50 PM
Quote from: Tomato on October 08, 2010, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: Previsionary on October 08, 2010, 05:32:54 PM
Quote from: murs47 on October 08, 2010, 05:06:27 PM
Quote from: Deaths Jester on October 08, 2010, 04:09:55 PM
...Prem, well, nobody loves Prem!!
I'm sure someone does...somewhere...maybe.
Please. You muckbuckets won't stop mentioning my twin, so you both obviously love him. How pathetic you monkeys are. What, did he refuse your advances and now you're taking out your wrath on him like jilted exes? How fitting for two lame peas in a pod. Someone will like you platypuses some day. Well, Murs, maybe not you. You're a nobody. But DJ has a chance... a very small, almost non-existent chance of finding........ someone that'll tolerate his musk.
See, that right there? That's why no one loves you.
Silly, Tom. Your opinion is as important as Paris Hilton's thoughts on politics. Let's keep that in mind the next time you feel the need to open that mouth of yours. Lemme make it simpler: don't speak. Don't say another word.
Wow...somebody definetly needs someone to love him...alas, it won't happen do outburst like these. And by the way, sounds like ye jealous I have a small chance of finding someone...whereas you most certainly don't!!!!
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/6752/helmetz.jpg)
Despite appearances, the helmet is full mapped (and mapped well, if I do say so meself). I'm just not gonna skin it.
Quote from: Tomato on December 11, 2010, 10:51:36 PM
(and mapped well, if I do say so meself)
I'll be the judge of that (and judge well, if I do say so meself)
Hmm.........could it be? :lol:
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4060/teknos.jpg)
Figured out a new technique for anime-style hair. Boo-yah!
ooo nice. We could really use lots more hair options. It's always hard to find the right fit.
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4060/teknos.jpg)
Harness still clips, but I'm not stressing out about it. worst case I'm sure there are 100+ others other people have done to skope in it's place.
Wow, looks really cool.... Who is it?
Also I'm excited to see that Antman too.
The last playable Electric Freedom member in the first level of the Influx mod.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/ic2vkz.jpg)
-solved most of the clipping issues on the harness... still iffy around the lower torso, but I'll play with it in max and see what I can come up with.
not sure who this is, but it looks good.
The above character is called "Teknos," the avatar of a former member of Electric Freedom who I've been in contact with. He wasn't a part of the site for very long, but I felt his tech-themed avatar would fit well alongside Ink, GG, and Volt. Certain other EF members (AA, C6, DJ, etc.) who have been active more recently, particularly during or after the Gamma Patrol "era", can be more easily given a cameo in later levels.
Quote from: Tomato on December 17, 2010, 01:02:37 AM
The above character is called "Teknos," the avatar of a former member of Electric Freedom who I've been in contact with. He wasn't a part of the site for very long, but I felt his tech-themed avatar would fit well alongside Ink, GG, and Volt. Certain other EF members (AA, C6, DJ, etc.) who have been active more recently, particularly during or after the Gamma Patrol "era", can be more easily given a cameo in later levels.
Hmmm...could it be Tortuga? I wonder.
Ohhh....cameo in later levels!! YEAH!! CAMEO TIME!!! Make sure to get my good side! :)
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4470/fighter.jpg)
I. Like. SWORDS!
No way! You actually did it 'mato? Congratulations bro. I'm sure he's well worth the effort now with the killer keyframes.
Quote from: detourne_me on December 24, 2010, 03:42:01 PM
No way! You actually did it 'mato? Congratulations bro. I'm sure he's well worth the effort now with the killer keyframes.
One of the advantages to having a character who is intended to be super deformed anyway... if the legs are a wee bit stretched or shortened, no one really cares.
everyone in earlier pages have been talking about more villians. my avatar can be sent to anyone who wants him for their collection. i'm a hero but my avatar could be reskinned and re-named into a villian. call him "Dark Dad" or "Step Dad". kooky names off the top of my head. :lol: my avatar is the classic super strong, near-invulnerable, flying hero. also...this new batch of avatars are VERY cool. really like glich girls.
Mk, it's time for this nonsense to stop now, it has officially gotten old. Herodad, you are not the first person to bring this up (I've got half a dozen or so PMs in my inbox about the same thing) so I apologize if this response seems to come down solely on you... The only difference between you and them is that you outright posted it instead of hiding behind the almighty "PM".
I am going to be completely and brutally honest right now: The behavior you guys have shown is disgusting to me, and it's the primary reason that I have not responded to a majority of the PMs I've gotten on this, even just with a polite no. The selfishness implicit in the "requests" to be in my mod is glaring... they are all variations of "This is my avatar, This is where you can DL him (where applicable), and this is why I deserve to be in your mod."
Let me make this clear: I, and I alone, decide who goes into my mod. The overall story is about MY characters, and their struggles and growth. I could choose to make my own villains and just limit the mod to those characters. But because of my love for this community, I CHOOSE to use avatars where I can.
That said, I did ask if anyone knew any villain avatars in the community that I could slip in, and I am happy with the response (I honestly did not even think about chars like DJ when I asked it). But I find it irritating that people are now sending me PMs for no better reason then to tell me their avatar is a villain, or changing their av's mentality just to be in a mod... that was not and is not my intent. Villains are easier to slip in, certainly, but I am not going to only ever use villains... of the characters to cameo/appear in the first two levels (the only levels to include cameos in the first arc, for storyline reasons), I believe it's about a 2:1 ratio of heroes to villains. Outside of Freedom Corp and Gamma Patrol, which will be included heavily in later arcs, I currently have plans for an entirely new team of heroes from the community making repeated appearances, and I haven't really nailed down who exactly I want to be in it yet.
That said, I don't want that to be the new topic of PMs either. In fact, I'll make it simple: From now on, anyone who tries to bully their way into the mod here, in the mod board, or via PM, won't be put in the mod even if I was actually going to put them in(and I won't even tell you either... I'll just put you on a list). If you REALLY want to be a part of my mod, then prove you deserve to be. And let me tell you, begging me via PM is not very deserving.
oops! sorry Tomato, just trying to help. i'm sure everyone else was too. i really didnt want in your mod. just wanted to expand your avatar collection if you wanted it. again sorry for bothering you. still love yah man! :lol:
I would hardly saying someone asking if you could include their avatar in your mod as a villain or otherwise meets "bullying". If anything it comes from a very honest place and people are excited and have interest in your mod. You could have easily said something like:
"Hey guys, I've already decided who is going to be in my mod. I'm excited that you guys want to be a part of this mod but the plot has already been planned out."
HD1, I think you are being very polite about this response. A+ communal effort.
I agree. But as I said, Herodad was not the only one... It seems like I've been getting PMs like this every other day recently, some far less respectful then Herodad's post ("Hey, this is where my avatar skin is. Go DL it" -my paraphrasing of several I've received). The only thing truly different about herodad's was that it came right when I was on the verge of posting something anyway.
So yeah, HD1, if you feel like I was coming down on you... don't. It's not on you, and if it seems that way I do apologize. One of the downsides of PMs is that while I look at it in terms of all the other messages I've gotten, the only one everyone else saw was yours.
As far as bringing in other avatars goes, nothing is really planned. I'm doing this in 5 level chunks, and while the first chunk is planned and I have a rough idea of the "endgame" for the next few chunks (2nd episode is Red Ant, 3rd is time travel+antiverse, etc.), everything in the middle is fairly open for avatar whoring. I just want people to do it the right way... I see a lot of people pushing themselves, but not a whole lot of people saying "Oh, Syn might make for a good but creepy level" or "A parody of the zombie obsession in comics with DJ might be hilarious." THAT is probably the most frustrating thing for me, honestly. I know we're better than that.
hey, no problem tomato! one thing ive always tried not to do is fight with family. instead of taking a persons comment to heart i just try to step in their shoes and understand what might be going on with them. in a round about way we're all a forum family. like i said before...still love yah man! :lol:
I can understand where ye coming from 'Matter, and if I've come off as sounding like such I didn't mean too just wanted to offer up some help in anyway possible without forcing my own character on you. In fact, I'd be cool if you didn't use my character anyways becuase the mod is about honouring the community not single individuals. As for bringing up ideas for missions, I had no idea you were looking for such...I might have a few ideas once I have a few glasses of vodka and let my mind slip awa..we'll see. :)
*reads through some of the thread*
ZOMG so much drama! *shoots it*
Now, back to the reason you come here... to see my silly meshes. Well, here's a few images to taunt you (don't feel too bad though... neither are complete yet anyway, and only have placeholder skins)
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6772/prev1x.jpg)(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/160/prev2g.jpg)
Well one is obviously He-Man or Skeletor, and the other is...Joker?
Cool!! :thumbup:
Quote from: Podmark on September 11, 2011, 03:13:02 AM
Well one is obviously He-Man or Skeletor, and the other is...Joker?
considerring the sword, i'd more likely say it's he-man. as for the other, i'd say either joker or ra's. looking good tomato, i cant wait tio see them finished.
actually the sword (known as the sword of he) comes and is used by a minimum of at least 10 characters.
and i can say that so far all guess's have been wrong, i have a lot of work ahead of me
Yuh, the sword is the same for everyone from Skeletor to Faker, at least as far as the toys go (which is the basis for the meshes).
Yeah I knew the old toys used the same swords. I used to have a bunch of them. Sadly my He-Man knowledge isn't good enough to make any further guesses...unless I draw on the unlimited power of the internet!
Interesting.........
A MOTU versatile?
Dana
Quote from: cmdrkoenig67 on September 13, 2011, 12:47:16 AM
A MOTU versatile?
Dana
That would be cool. New weapons to play with.
you're all giving me waaaay too much credit here. I'm making TWO motu related meshes here. if tue wants to go off and do crazy shenanigans with them, that's on him.
he said i can do shenanigans, you all saw it
no takey backseys
That is not good. Not good at all.
Bad Tomato! You've doomed us all!
Yes TUE, you can have all the fun you want with the MotU meshes. In the corner. Where no one else can see you or associate with you.
You know, pretty much how you are now, except with new meshes.
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2958/hemansofar.jpg)
Skin is obviously a placeholder (you think I'm skinning this too? Pfft) but I thought I'd show off what I have so far. Hair, Sword, and Harness are meshed, mapped, and ready to go, moving on to other extras.
Looking good so far. That hair might even be useful to me beyond that mesh.
Man Pod I was thinking the same thing! I think everyone is in an 80's mood! Niiiiice mesh!!!! :thumbup:
now i'm reallly getting curios as to what the second mesh is.
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1185/hemanpic.jpg)
He-Man ready for skinning by TUE... just as soon as he swears allegiance to the Herd.
Quote from: Tomato on October 07, 2011, 11:46:22 PM
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1185/hemanpic.jpg)
He-Man ready for skinning by TUE... just as soon as he swears allegiance to the Herd.
Looks great :cool: i love the crisply defined hair and other details.
Apparently, Tomato also has the power of Greyskull :cool:
That is cool 'Mato, I can't wait to get He-Man in the rumble room so I can kick his @$$. He was one of those characters that just made me root for the bad guys.
sweet! :thumbup:
(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5608/skeletorb.jpg)
Face it TUE. Your soul belongs to me now.
You sooo own TUE, it's not funny.
But now we can prepare for another Benton mod. :thumbup:
Will TUE finally get the Skeletor mesh he's always wanted? Find out next time, same Tomato Time, same Tomato channel.
Haha, not anytime soon. SCD has already called my bluff on Thundercats, so I think I'm full up for the moment! He-Man is the major 80's toon I'm least interested in. If we're all still around in a few years, maybe then. :D
oooooooooooh
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/5181/skeletork.jpg)
Need to do a few bits on the harness and belt, as well as new feet... but Skeletor's coming along ok if I do say so myself. Also, I want it noted that I am very vexed with TUE right now... it wasn't until he infected me with his crazy that I would have even CONSIDERED buying anything MOTU related, but yesterday I broke down and shelled out nearly $30 for my first legitimate motu purchase... God help me.
To be fair though, the one I bought was a Battleground Evil Lynn (http://www.itsalltrue.net/?p=16337), and that thing is gorgeous.
lol she will do that to you and may i also suggest adora that figure is stunning
Honestly... No offense man, I think it looks boring, myself. I guess I'm just a sucker for the bad girls :P
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3704/skeletor.jpg)
still missing part of the harness (crossbones portion) and eventually I'll get around to his staff, but it's coming along. You'll notice I decided to make the clawed feet attach to the other ones... I figure this way TUE can reuse them on other meshes if he so chooses.
Hey 'Mato, that's really coming along! That skull face is fantastic.
Quote from: BentonGrey on May 01, 2012, 02:12:40 PM
Hey 'Mato, that's really coming along! That skull face is fantastic.
It bloody well SHOULD be, I had to do it twice. I had it done almost perfectly, and then Max crashed. Upside though is that I had it more or less down to a science the second time.
Haha, well, small mercies, I suppose...
And now for something completely different.
Mk, so some of you might remember that I made mention of a certain thing derailing my CSA skins? Yeah, this might shock you all, but it wasn't talking about MOTU. Trying to finish up the mesh of the battery now.
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/51/alanscott.jpg)
Now, this IS on the Ren GL keyframes like the power rings were, but unlike those this one will not have auras or the floating logo... based upon my (admittedly limited) research, Alan doesn't have an aura during flight like the GLC does, and is more commonly depicted with green flames. And because adding FX would be too much work (I'd have to figure out a way to get them to work during the GL flight animations, I'd have to set the whole thing up twice because you jerks would want FF and FFv3R versions, and I'm not the only party involved who has to skin this beach) you'll all just have to live with a new ring, new battery, and new base mesh. I know you're all devastated by that, but I'm sure you'll learn to live with it.
Anyway, as I said, this is one part of the something I'm working on setting up, there's one other that IS skoped and ready, but since it's just a skope I'm just going to hold off until all interested parties are ready.
Edit: Close up of the ring
(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4302/ringx.jpg)
i hate to be that dude Tomato, but i guess it's just my southpaw pride.... alan's wearing his ring on the wrong hand.
otherwise, the details on the ring are amazing! i also like the details on the mesh, like the puffysleeves and little ponch too.
That's one fancy ring :o. I'm curious what else you and these interested parties are up to.
Quote from: detourne_me on May 02, 2012, 03:23:59 AM
i hate to be that dude Tomato, but i guess it's just my southpaw pride.... alan's wearing his ring on the wrong hand.
otherwise, the details on the ring are amazing! i also like the details on the mesh, like the puffysleeves and little ponch too.
So is Sinestro, but there's nothing I can really do about it... I make the pieces, but it's Ren's animations.
BTW, I've gone ahead and added a different FX to the ring as well... I was gonna use the same one as the other GL/PR skins, but given the shape of the ring I instead opted to use the same type as the battery.
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2847/batteryrs.jpg)
no texture yet, but it's ready to be sent off. whoopdiedo.
that is some seriuosly sweet stuffage tomato! i cant wait to see it finished.
More Lanterns to play with, right on! :thumbup:
So I won't rehash here why I've been more or less absent lately (long story short, I've been hanging out with mah bronies) but after seeing TUE's He-Man, I got motivated enough to finish off the mesh of Skeletor itself.
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3498/skeletore.jpg)
Still haven't done the staff, but honestly... I'm not motivated enough at the moment to mesh it. If I can find one somebody else made free for use, or something I can get permission for, I might go that route, but unfortunately I just don't care enough about ff stuff atm.
TUE, expect a PM shortly.
Looks pretty good, and I'm sure TUE will have something awesome to dress it up with.
(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5576/skeletorq.jpg)
I'm so weak...
I must confess, while I am not a fan of the MOTU show/characters/etc...That is an amazing Skeletor, Tomato! The Green Lantern ring and power battery is also really well done...Bravo!
Dana
Great work on the Alan Scott character and objects Tomato!
For the record, I am still working on the staff... I've go about 65% of it mapped (horns, staff section, and gem are all done, just have to do the skull now) so... that's a thing.
For those not following my tumblr (shame on u) I'm down to the last few icons for the project I've been busy with, so I might start coming back to ff stuff soonish. I dunno how much I'm ready to do though, I'm still feeling burned out... but we'll see. At the very least, I have some ideas for tweeking my female meshes.
Quote from: Tomato on August 18, 2012, 07:21:46 AM
For the record, I am still working on the staff... I've go about 65% of it mapped (horns, staff section, and gem are all done, just have to do the skull now) so... that's a thing.
For those not following my tumblr (shame on u) I'm down to the last few icons for the project I've been busy with, so I might start coming back to ff stuff soonish. I dunno how much I'm ready to do though, I'm still feeling burned out... but we'll see. At the very least, I have some ideas for tweeking my female meshes.
Good news indeed.
well yeah, except that was before my body was assaulted by a virus from the nether reaches of hell. I'm going in to fast track tomorrow (kinda like er, but not really) but atm we're thinking it's some kind of flu. Aches, congestion, sore throat, loss of voice, constant nasal drainage, and a raise in temp (not a huge one mind, but then, I've never been prone to fever)
That's a bummer 'Mato, I hope you feel better soon.
Quote from: Tomato on August 18, 2012, 10:09:34 PM
well yeah, except that was before my body was assaulted by a virus from the nether reaches of hell. I'm going in to fast track tomorrow (kinda like er, but not really) but atm we're thinking it's some kind of flu. Aches, congestion, sore throat, loss of voice, constant nasal drainage, and a raise in temp (not a huge one mind, but then, I've never been prone to fever)
Hey, us folks in the nether reachs of hell had nothing ot do with this, so keep us out of this will ya!
Starting to get some work done on Female_Basic_TM_v2
(http://i.imgur.com/7pbvh.png)
comparison to V1
(http://i.imgur.com/UDduZ.png)
some side shots
Updates so far:
-More natural looking chest
-Narrower shoulders and arms (might go back and add some muscle back in, they're almost too twig-like now)
-longer, more natural ab area
-better breasts
-minor changes to the head shape (it's kind of impossible to see given my base, but I generally tried to make the face less round. I'll try to show it in a later update)
Still working on:
-As mentioned above, tweeks to her arms
-Going to experiment with her hands, try to make them longer without making the animations look unnatural.
-major adjustments to the collarbone/shoulder area
-gonna make some changes to the ab area, the front side looks a bit too flat.
-I want to play with her ankles a bit... the size of the feet are ok, but I feel like those ankles would never support a real human being.
Feel free to make your own suggestions here, I'm trying to make this the best basic female mesh I can.
I can already see that I like the new version better Tom. Very cool.
I might have some suggestions later.
(http://i.imgur.com/RbLZF.png)
Still fiddling with it. Ignore the ab area for the moment (I made some changes that looked good in max, but look meh in Ctool) but this should give you a preview of the fixed shoulders, arms, and legs (as well as an early preview of the face, which I'm going to be going back and tweaking when I do the rest.)
Well, after getting everyone's hopes up, I'm apparently going on hiatus from FF/any Digital work/ponymon/etc. for a week or so.
No, don't freak out, I'll still be online and bsing around, it's just that I won't be actually doing anything really "constructive" for a bit. See, I'm about to do some serious updates to my laptop (including a new HD), so there's no sense making MORE dren to transfer over.
I have some interesting plans for the next few weeks, however. Along with the upcoming release of several of my FF meshes by TUE, and my own release of White Lantern Deadman (I haven't forgotten), the major update to my female basic mesh is being done with something... or rather someone particular in mind.
Quote from: Tomato on August 30, 2012, 12:30:49 AM
the major update to my female basic mesh is being done with something... or rather someone particular in mind.
Intriguing...
So quick update for those not checking my tumblr (and if not, then for shame!) I'm very limited on the internet side of things for a few days. However, that DOES give me some time to do other things... like blow the dust off a side project I've had sitting around for a few months.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img824/4140/jedd.jpg)
I can't wait to see this finished. I'm so glad you are doing the Earth 2 version of the JLA.
nice, i'm really looking forward to seeing the final product.
Not a character that I ever thought I would see in FF, very cool 'Mato. I'm also looking forward to the finshed product.
Well it looks cool, but...I have no idea what it is. I guess I need to bone up on my Earth 2?
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4140/jedd.jpg)
Quote from: AfghanAnt on May 25, 2013, 05:47:07 PM
I can't wait to see this finished. I'm so glad you are doing the Earth 2 version of the JLA.
Fun fact on that... Technically, the mirror/evil universe has never ACTUALLY been Earth 2... if you read the book, because Lex is the one who actually discovered the JLA's world, he names our/the JLA's earth "Earth 2," meaning the CSA's universe is actually "Earth 1." It's never actually been called Earth 2, but because that's the name of the book, everyone uses that designation.
Personally, I prefer "Earth 3." It avoids confusion with the pre-crisis and post-n52 earth 2/JSA universe.
BTW, for the uninitiated, this is J'edd J'arkus, evil counterpart of Martian Manhunter who died 5 minutes into the "Crisis on Two Earths" animated movie.
Ohh man...ohh man! 'Mato, that is super awesome, and if someone gives that guy a sword, we've finally got Green Martians for John Carter to fight!
The work on that guy's head is really neat, 'Mato. Great work!
(http://i.imgur.com/oSSgTE9.jpg)
I have internet again.
That...Looks...Sooo...Coool!!!
That looks really great! The face is really well done.
AWESOME! :thumbup:
That is beyond awesome, 'Mato! That's a beautiful skin, as well as an awesome mesh. You've got a PM headed your way. :D
damn man that is sweet
Sensational Tomato! Dead on version from the show! Very alien.
Looks like it came right out of the episode. Amazing job.
fantastic! and a nice tribute to John Carter too!
Simply amazing!
WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS ABSOLUTELY FAAAANTASTIC!!!!
And y'know, ol' Tars wouldn't be a lot harder to do....
thats some sweet mirror earth stuff you have going on there tomato. i was also admiriring your new female base and was wondering if it would be too much to ask to set it up to be like the crymson mesh so it could be used with male animation sets for scoping purposes.
Quote from: Tomato on May 28, 2013, 10:22:02 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/oSSgTE9.jpg)
I have internet again.
Not that it really matters other than for my own curiosity, but if I remember correctly, you used the existing Male_4_Arms mesh (Or whatever it was called) as a base for J'edd J'arkus. Did you customize the animations so that the cape works properly, or is the cape going to be a static piece? Also, I just have to say that the head looks really smooth on there, it doesn't look like a separate piece at all.
No, I had to keep the cape as a static piece. I did adjust it so it doesn't clip that much (the feet clip a bit on the flight animation, but only slightly) but there's no way of animating the cape without leaving the second arms as a static piece.
Anyway, on the female mesh... I'll look into it. I DID design it to work with the female_basic keyframes, but I'll see if I can't make a version that works on MB keys as well.
Yeah, I think I would rather see animated arms than an animated cape.
That would be pretty cool to have another Female_Basic type mesh to work with when skoping, at least for a lower tier skoper like myself anyway.
So, I looked into the male_basic thing... I'd have to completely restructure the mesh in order to make it work. It'd honestly be easier just to make a new mesh designed for male_basic keys then to modify this one. Sorry :(.
(http://i.imgur.com/2MeEI6J.jpg)
Comparison of Old and New
I think I like the neck of the old version, but otherwise, the shoulders look better, more smooth, on the newer model, and the thighs look better thinner. Also, the waistline looks more realistic on the newer model. Is there a height difference or is it just the way they are lined up?
Quote from: Cyber Burn on May 31, 2013, 12:26:07 AM
I think I like the neck of the old version, but otherwise, the shoulders look better, more smooth, on the newer model, and the thighs look better thinner. Also, the waistline looks more realistic on the newer model. Is there a height difference or is it just the way they are lined up?
Just how things are lined up. If anything, the new mesh is taller, since I adjusted the head to sit slightly further up.
Nice improvement on the female body, Tom.
Bearded's Female Woman Basic works with male keyframes, as well as male skins (sort of). It does have static hair, like Irrational's Female Basic. Maybe I should ask him if he could do a bald version...
Quote from: daglob on May 31, 2013, 03:54:30 PM
Bearded's Female Woman Basic works with male keyframes, as well as male skins (sort of). It does have static hair, like Irrational's Female Basic. Maybe I should ask him if he could do a bald version...
That is interesting. Where does that live?
Quote from: AfghanAnt on May 31, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
Quote from: daglob on May 31, 2013, 03:54:30 PM
Bearded's Female Woman Basic works with male keyframes, as well as male skins (sort of). It does have static hair, like Irrational's Female Basic. Maybe I should ask him if he could do a bald version...
That is interesting. Where does that live?
Sorry for the threadjack 'Mato, but here you go AA:
http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=54015.0
fantastic Jarkus 'Mato ! well i guess time of peace is ended for the old J'onzz :D
That J'edd J'arkus mesh looks wonderful, Tomato...It's nice to see more non-human-ish meshes out there...Bravo!
Dana
Quote from: Cyber Burn on May 31, 2013, 07:59:01 PM
Quote from: AfghanAnt on May 31, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
Quote from: daglob on May 31, 2013, 03:54:30 PM
Bearded's Female Woman Basic works with male keyframes, as well as male skins (sort of). It does have static hair, like Irrational's Female Basic. Maybe I should ask him if he could do a bald version...
That is interesting. Where does that live?
Sorry for the threadjack 'Mato, but here you go AA:
http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=54015.0
Hmmm... I thought she DID take MB keyframes. Need to check that out.
Menawhile, here's hoping for a Tars Tarkus...
...You're welcome, AA...?
Dana
Quote from: cmdrkoenig67 on June 16, 2013, 10:27:29 PM
...You're welcome, AA...?
Dana
Crap. That was for the wrong comment. :(
LOL...No worries, I was just confused.
Dana
HA HA...I saw that too, I was wondering about that as well.
Hey Tomato!
Just popping in to say that J'arkus is awesome!
Wait, I see you've already heard. Nevermind.