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Title: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: SpecterFan on May 30, 2022, 06:30:39 AM
I haven't been here for awhile so if anyone was trying to get hold of me, I apologize. My laptop's hard drive went bad and I'm forced to work with a new one. Unfortunately, I find myself stuck with Windows 11 - and re-installing everything I lost.

Here's my question -

I want Freedom Force AND Freedom Force vs the 3rd Reich BACK AND WORKING. I have them both on GOG. FFv3R WORKS but FF WILL NOT! I think I have them both on disc - but I have not been able to locate FF.

Do any of you have any idea what I have to do on Win 11 and GOG to get FF to work? If FF works (better) on Steam - I'll buy it that way! I've done too much work on FF to let it go.

Thanks,
SpecterFan

Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: mal19uk on May 30, 2022, 04:22:22 PM
I have not tried with windows 11 yet but I just want to check a couple of things. Are you installing via gog galaxy or the offline files version? If gog galaxy I would try the offline files version.
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: SpecterFan on May 31, 2022, 04:15:15 AM
I tried a number of different installs - I might have tried that one. I'll try it anyway.
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: SpecterFan on June 13, 2022, 06:49:46 AM
Sorry about my delay in getting back to you. I'm sorry but I have  to be honest: WINDOWS 11 IS A GOD-AWFUL PAIN!!! I'm only using it because I'm stuck with it.

As to your questions -:banghead:
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: mal19uk on June 14, 2022, 05:59:33 PM
Hi,

Hmm I will try to think about what avenues we can go down here. There are certainly quite a few applications that worked on Windows 10 that are not yet compatible with Windows 11.

It might be worth giving a shout out to gog support on https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?game=1445250806&product=gog
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: mal19uk on June 14, 2022, 06:03:33 PM
Do you get any error messages when installing?
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: SpecterFan on June 21, 2022, 12:15:02 PM
No and I have two new discs for Freedom Force to try. I'll let you know how they turn out.
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: SpecterFan on June 29, 2022, 08:38:50 AM
This is an update -
I installed FF from the disc. I have tried everything I can think of and nothing works. I'm at my wits end. I'm running out of time......      :doh:


I HATE WINDOWS 11 WITH A PASSION!!!!!
Thanks for your time...
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: BentonGrey on June 29, 2022, 03:26:17 PM
Man, I HATE that.  Sorry SF!  So, what EXACTLY happens with  :ff: ?

I assume you've tried the basic stuff, like compatibility mode and such?
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: SpecterFan on July 01, 2022, 03:45:46 PM
Sorry if I offended anyone. Just venting....Yup. Tried all the basic stuff. Installed from disc. Applied patch(es). Tried installing in different locations. Everything I can think of.The most I've gotten so far is a warning that the app may present a security risk. Then Win 11 takes over and nothing else happens.I haven't tried DOS BOX yet - mainly because of all the settings involved.I've done a "ton" of work on FF1. I don't want to toss it aside without a second thought. My old, tattered brain doesn't work that way.
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: BentonGrey on July 01, 2022, 04:21:42 PM
So you have tried to run it in compatibility mode?  Also, Microsoft has tremendous contempt for their users and doesn't trust them to control their own property, so make sure you've taken ownership of all the files and that you are an admin.

I'd suggest installing the GOG version, making sure you've got ownership of and full access to the files and that you are an admin.  Make sure GOG Galaxy isn't running and that you are launching from a shortcut and not through the shell.  Then set the launcher to run in compatibility mode for Windows 98 or XP and to run as admin.  Those are my best suggestions, though I don't know if they will do you any good.
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: WyldFyre on July 01, 2022, 07:18:18 PM
I don't know if this will work for you. It worked for me. I installed the GOG version into the original game directories. This allowed me to install the editor and mods just like they originally came out.
I did this with both FF and FFvtTR. I DID install these under Windows 10, but they work under 11 as well. As Benton said be sure you have ownership of all of the files/directories. I've had that issue crop up as well.
I run in compatibility for Vista SP 2 and as an administrator for FF. FFvtTR works without compatibility.

edit: I found that disk installs for FF did not work under Win 10 or 11. FFvtTR seemed to install fine.
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: SpecterFan on July 03, 2022, 02:15:17 PM
I'll let you both know how this goes.
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: SpecterFan on July 03, 2022, 09:13:25 PM
I just jumped the gun. I thought that because  :ffvstr: started up, it was also working fine. Well - I was wrong; when I tried a few buttons (NEW CAMPAIGN, CHARACTERS, and RUMBLE ROOM for example) it didn't do a damn thing. It just kept playing music over and over.That said, which of the following install locations do you recommend:

      C:\GOG Games\Freedom Force\Data\Art   
      C:\Program Files (x86)\Irrational Games\Freedom Force\Data\Art

     C:\GOG Games\Freedom Force vs the 3rd Reich\Custom\Art
     C:\Program Files (x86)\Irrational Games\Freedom Force vs The 3rd Reich\Custom\Art
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: WyldFyre on July 04, 2022, 09:16:09 PM
My base directories are:

<drive>:\Program Files (x86)\Irrational Games\Freedom Force\

<drive>:\Program Files (x86)\Irrational Games\Freedom Force vs the Third Reich\

The Data and Art folders are in game assets. The game itself would be installed to the directories I listed.

I did have an issue with one of Benton's mods pointing to a FFvtTR directory with a dot after vs (vs.) but fixed that.

Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: oktokels on July 04, 2022, 09:57:08 PM
Quote from: SpecterFan on July 03, 2022, 09:13:25 PM
; when I tried a few buttons (NEW CAMPAIGN, CHARACTERS, and RUMBLE ROOM for example) it didn't do a damn thing. It just kept playing music over and over.
I could be wrong, but sounds like a problem with the video card drivers or a graphics incompatibility. You should try to update the graphic card drivers or try to install the game in another computer to test that.
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: SpecterFan on July 05, 2022, 12:25:28 AM
WyldFyre, did you install from a disc or an offline installer?
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: BentonGrey on July 05, 2022, 03:27:49 AM
So the install itself is choking?
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: SpecterFan on July 05, 2022, 01:11:22 PM
BG,
     "choking"?
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: BentonGrey on July 05, 2022, 02:42:36 PM
I mean, is it failing during the install itself, or is it installing and then not launching successfully?
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: SpecterFan on July 05, 2022, 09:55:24 PM
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: WyldFyre on July 06, 2022, 07:01:01 PM
For FF I have the GOG version. I just used the original directory structure.

I have installed FFvtTR both ways. I now have the GOG version installed but also in the original directories.

I have FF running in compatibility mode.(see earlier post) but FFvtTR works fine.
Title: Re: I Need Your help With Freedom Force Install
Post by: SpecterFan on July 15, 2022, 11:53:27 AM
Quick note to let you know -


             I haven't been online for awhile because I picked up an annoying bug that would not let me on the forums. Instead, it redirected me to a totally different website which I had no knowledge of. Turns out it had something to do with my browser and (sneaky) certificates.            I finally couldn't stand it any more - Windows 11 that is - so I found a laptop running Windows 10 Home version and dropped $700+ hoping this would solve my problems. Remember, FF DID INSTALL under this OS before. Well, guess what - it doesn't work.....There has got to be a combination I haven't tried yet?