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Community Forums => Polls => Topic started by: Podmark on May 28, 2016, 05:53:27 PM

Poll
Question: What do you think of Hawkman's classic design?
Option 1: Love
Option 2: Like
Option 3: Meh
Option 4: Dislike
Option 5: Hate
Title: Costume Rating 76: Hawkman
Post by: Podmark on May 28, 2016, 05:53:27 PM
How about classic Hawkman?
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/podmark/HawkmanRating_zpsay8erirf.jpg)
Title: Re: Costume Rating 76: Hawkman
Post by: BentonGrey on May 28, 2016, 08:46:48 PM
I absolutely love this costume. It shouldn't work at all.  It's completely ridiculous and doesn't fit in with the standard superhero set at all, and yet, I think it is fantastic.  The lower half is classic superhero, the upper half is fantasy, Flash Gordon-esq.  The helmet and wings are wonderfully distinctive.  The whole effect is striking and exciting, but it's the kind of thing you can only have one of.  That's why the more conservative costume of Hawkgirl is a good counterpart to it.

I think it never looked better than when drawn by Joe Kubert:
http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/175/hawkman_whoswho.gif
Title: Re: Costume Rating 76: Hawkman
Post by: Tomato on May 29, 2016, 03:59:18 AM
I'm a bit more meh on this one then Benton is... It's a bit too busy for my tastes. I'm more inclined towards the version in (I believe) the JSA series... In that one, the mask is all one color (it bothers me seeing versions with two color masks. It just doesn't look right), took out the striped underoos, and added some nifty bracers for the arms. That said, I do prefer the belt and boots of this design, even if I also wouldn't mind seeing all-gold boots similar to the n52 look (but not nearly so complicated... just something to visually tie the boots and the bracers together).
Title: Re: Costume Rating 76: Hawkman
Post by: BentonGrey on May 29, 2016, 04:19:44 AM
I agree, bracers are a good edition, and a single color mask would also be an improvement.  Still, I think losing the little touches of accent on the boots and trunks would be a mistake.
Title: Re: Costume Rating 76: Hawkman
Post by: detourne_me on May 30, 2016, 03:22:12 PM
I remember getting the Kenner Super Powers toy of Hawkman randomly at a Christmas white elephant gift exchange when I was in cub scouts or Beavers (Canadian Boy Scout group). I was so happy. For nostalgia alone I rate this a 'love'
Title: Re: Costume Rating 76: Hawkman
Post by: Podmark on May 31, 2016, 12:13:27 AM
Quote from: BentonGrey on May 28, 2016, 08:46:48 PM
It shouldn't work at all.  It's completely ridiculous and doesn't fit in with the standard superhero set at all, and yet, I think it is fantastic.  The lower half is classic superhero, the upper half is fantasy, Flash Gordon-esq.

I fall on the other side. Not big on Hawkman's look. Some of the more modern attempts work a little better for me but I'm not a fan. The bare chested look rarely works for me.
Gave it a dislike.
Title: Re: Costume Rating 76: Hawkman
Post by: BentonGrey on May 31, 2016, 12:25:28 AM
You're absolutely right.  The bare chested look rarely works, but for me, Hawkman is the exception that proves the rule.  He's that 'rarely.'  ;)
Title: Re: Costume Rating 76: Hawkman
Post by: Tomato on May 31, 2016, 12:44:01 AM
Not to stray too far off topic, but I wanted to link to the design I was talking about before (http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5116d7aae4b085e20f7e3d3a/t/56076d25e4b0aebb8cbfe0b1/1443327274769/), because I couldn't when I originally posted. Again, about the only thing I really prefer about the classic design compared to that one is the boots... that stupid shinguard thing makes no sense and looks goofy.

Speaking of the boots, I never noticed this until looking at the design for this discussion, but if you look, the boots are designed with little talons on the ends. Now, I'm sure that was a good idea in the 60s/70s, but that design element persists until the 2000s... and I'm sorry, but the more I look at it, the stupider it is. Because the reality is, they don't look like hawk talons, they look like chicken feet. It's just stupid, and doesn't fit with the character.