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Matt Ryan Cast at John Constantine in NBC Series
Storyline: A man struggling with his faith is haunted by the sins of his past but is suddenly thrust into the role of defending humanity from the gathering forces of darkness.
Written by David S. Goyer (Batman Begins, Man of Steel) and Daniel Cerone ("The Mentalist"), NBC has officially ordered a pilot for "Constantine," which will be helmed by The Descent's Neil Marshall.
This def has potential, looking forward to it.
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Pros:
* The actor looks the goods
* "Hannibal" proves that NBC can good great adult programs, even without swearing or sexuality
* Neil Marshall is directing the pilot. He's a genre fan and (imo) a good director
Cons:
* Is this going to be set in America or the UK? I don't have that much interest in the US adventures of Constantine (even the big storyline where Constantine travelled around the US wasn't that great, imo) ... it's just become a supernatural version of "Elementary". The UK is pretty much it's own character in the comics.
* Chas is being played by an American (but at least the guy is a good actor)
* Papa Midnite is chief villain? Not a very epic opponent.
* David Goyer has a hand in this and the guy is very hit-and-miss as a writer.
He looks dead on, which is pretty cool.
I've never read Constantine but I think it could make a great TV show. Needs a strong actor in the lead though.
Unlike the movie,Matt Ryan looks totaly like Johny.Now since DC decided to ride the comic to TV wave Arrow created,is it also set in Arrow universe like Flash?
According to Goyer, Constantine won't crossover with Flash or Arrow.
Quote from: Starman on April 17, 2014, 07:05:51 AM
According to Goyer, Constantine won't crossover with Flash or Arrow.
Thats too bad actually :( .I was hoping for a DC-TV universe.
Sorry, are they going to dye his hair blonde?
Is he British? Is he going to cross over with Swamp Thing?
Is Negral secretly going to be in the background?
Will it please be based zero percent on the movie?
UnkoMan:
Yes ... he's dirty blonde
Yes ... he's British but played by a Welsh actor. No to Swamp Thing.
Negral has been cast, so presumably yes
Hopefully, yes.
Spade:
I think having Constantine cross over with Arrow and Flash would be too much ... you'd have superhero science AND magic, which just opens the door too wide on these shows.
Thats what I thought,but I also thought that they would go for a whole TV-universe.
NBC's Constantine Teaser Trailer (http://www.dcuopost.com/multiverse-news/nbcs-constantine-teaser-trailer/)
I have no doubts this will be a great ride.
That teaser just sold me 200% for the new series and it's first season will finally wash away the bad taste of the Constantine movie out of my brain.
- CQ
Looks awesome! As soon as it was announced I thought it could def work, and the trailer reassured me.
The show looks great, but there's something about it being on NBC that bugs me. I have a feeling that NBC is going to do the show justice. Maybe it's me.......
*coughpilotisoutcough*
How about he's not allowed to smoke on the show? That's so lame I mean I understand the reason but it just makes me angry.
Did this pilot leaked,also?
If I were to have watched a supposed "leaked" trailer. I would say that it was really great. I would also say that the name-dropping and visual easter eggs were fun for a true DC fan.
I'm not saying that i did find a leaked version ;) but if I did. I loved it.
An acquaintance of mine who totally isn't me noticed that while you don't see Constantine smoke, you do see him butt out a cigarette as if he'd just finished one, as well as play around with a cigarette lighter.
We already discussed Flash,so we can disscus this too.
That was FREAKING AWESSOME.
A familiar mask makes a cameo.
Kinda reminds me on Supernatural,expecialy if they start the roadtrip around US.
Im willing to bet that Gotham will be leaked very soon...
Quote from: Starman on July 01, 2014, 10:50:34 PM
An acquaintance of mine who totally isn't me noticed that while you don't see Constantine smoke, you do see him butt out a cigarette as if he'd just finished one, as well as play around with a cigarette lighter.
Cool, it's a nice workaround. Real deal would have been better ofc, but that's something.
Quote from: Spade on July 02, 2014, 10:24:32 AM
We already discussed Flash,so we can disscus this too.
That was FREAKING AWESSOME.
A familiar mask makes a cameo.
Kinda reminds me on Supernatural,expecialy if they start the roadtrip around US.
Im willing to bet that Gotham will be leaked very soon...
Sounds cool, I was a fan of Supernatural for first 5 seasons then I lost interest. This has potential to be better.
An acquaintance of mine is gonna see this ASAP and I'm gonna post my....I mean his...impressions.
TV doesnt want smoking to be percived as cool,so they avoid it.And lets face it,IT DOES look cool when John does it.Still,If thats the biggest complaign we have,then all is good.
Quote from: Spade on July 02, 2014, 10:24:32 AM
We already discussed Flash,so we can disscus this too.
That was FREAKING AWESSOME.
A familiar mask makes a cameo.
Kinda reminds me on Supernatural,expecialy if they start the roadtrip around US.
Im willing to bet that Gotham will be leaked very soon...
The creator of Supernatural, Eric Kripke, actually wanted John Constantine to appear on Supernatural and, when he got denied by DC Comics, ended up basing the look of Castiel on Constantine - he wears Constantine's exact clothing from the comics. The Ace of Winchesters most probably inspired The Colt, an Old-West-made, demon-killing pistol seen in the TV series Supernatural. Kripke's main characters Sam and Dean also have Winchester for their surnames.
I still liked 1 episode of Constantine over 1 season of Supernatural.But Im saying people will notice similarity.
Yeah but that's not really Constantine's fault ... Supernatural, Buffy, Grimm, The Dresden Files and all those other occult investigator TV shows have borrowed a lot from the "Hellblazer" comic over the 25 years it was being published.
As I said, the guy who created Supernatural was basically writing the show as if it was in the same fictional universe as "Hellblazer" for the first couple of seasons. Unless they set Constantine in England and gave the show a more adult raring, it was always going to be compared to Supernatural.
FYI, I don't like Supernatural and I think John Constantine is waaaaaaaaaay more interesting than Sam and Dean.
Agreed.Constantine IS waaaay more interesting.
Any chance for Swamp Thing,what do you think?
I'm not sure how they'd do Swamp Thing and his powers on a TV budget without him looking like he did in those 80s Swamp Thing movies ... but it's possible, I guess. They did show Dr Fate's helmet, so other DC characters might appear.
Then again, it seems like a waste of Swamp Thing to just have him in a cameo. He's an amazing comic book character but I don't know if he really works onscreen.
Maybe have him run against John and the Green is conveniently weakened reducing his form (Like let's say his face being just moss on a rock), and in the conclusion, show his complete form. He could be a mixture of puppetry and CGI.
Or leave him shaded,like the daemons.
Saw this the other day and thought it was pretty well done. Stronger than the Flash pilot, and it wasn't bad.
To those who have seen the pilot, apparently big changes are in store:
Spoiler
the character of Liv, and the actress who played her, aren't going to be in the show http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=53983 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=53983)
^But,why?
Quote from: Spade on July 11, 2014, 04:13:38 AM
^But,why?
Something about once filming was getting ready to start there was a falling out with the actress over creative differences.. so they are having to rush a new pilot with a new character in her place.
- CQ
Quote from: Talavar on July 11, 2014, 03:15:00 AM
To those who have seen the pilot, apparently big changes are in store: Spoiler
the character of Liv, and the actress who played her, aren't going to be in the show http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=53983 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=53983)
If they get rid of that character, it would definitely change the direction of the entire show! Obviously the character didn't test very well with audiences (the whole reason the pilot episode was "leaked") but that is a crazy last minute change up ... does the TV show still use the existing pilot now or do they reboot the show with the second episode?
On the plus side, if they are bringing in the character of Zed, that could tie it closer to the actual Hellblazer books and the Damnation's Army storyline.
Spoiler
Constantine executive producer Daniel Cerone says that the show is replacing the wet-behind-the-ears Liv with the more experienced and feisty Zed to give its main demon hunter a more effective partner/foil. "When you put a wide-eyed innocent into that world, she's just very reactive," he tells EW. "The nice thing about Swamp Thing, when he first teamed up with Constantine, was that Swamp Thing had abilities, Swamp Thing had skills. Constantine needed those skills. One of the coolest things about Constantine he doesn't have any 'powers.' He came out of a time with all these superheroes with their garish colors and flashy powers, and he just comes out with a rumpled coat, wearing browns and greys, and he just knows a lot magic and spells, but it's all knowledge-based. Anything he can do is based in knowledge and his own studying. Zed is actually one of the first women Constantine meets in the comic books, and she has various psychic powers. We felt ultimately she's going to service the first season better as someone to pair Constantine up with. She can get in his face a little bit and have some of her own realizations and skills and really push him. But if whoever Constantine is working with is constantly on her heels, that just wouldn't service the show really well."
Frankly,I dont like that change.I liked the pilot.It was freaking awessome.
I'd prefer having Zed, if it means the show will follow her story from the comic, but will obviously mean a change in story direction from the pilot episode.
It's nice that the executive producers mentioned Constantine's relationship with Swamp Thing, though. It would be great if they did some episodes based on stories from Saga of The Swamp Thing (like all the "American Gothic" stuff), but from Constantine's perspective.
On a side note, I binge read every issue of the New 52 Constantine comic ... as a big fan of Hellblazer, it is a really, really underwhelming read and nowhere near the level of quality of the Vertigo stuff.
So Zed has been cast http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/constantine-angelica-celaya-cast-as-zed-on-nbc-drama-1201261906/ (http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/constantine-angelica-celaya-cast-as-zed-on-nbc-drama-1201261906/)
Quote"He is a smoker in the show, we're not shying away from it, but we're not glorifying it," Goyer said, after it was pointed out that the character is only seen stubbing out a cigarette in the pilot.
"[NBC] are beholden to broadcast standards too," Cerone noted. "We know the universe that we're existing within — we heard plenty of pitches like 'let's give him a patch or have him chew a lot of gum,'" but the producers decided that seeing him stubbing out a cigarette was more authentic to the character.
One aspect of John Constantine's character that seemingly won't be explored is his bisexuality, which has been mentioned in a number of comics since Hellblazer debuted, most notably in Brian Azzarello's 2002 run, "Ashes & Dust in the City of Angels."
"There are no immediate plans" to explore Constantine's bisexuality, Goyer told critics at TCA, since that was just one interpretation of the character from Constantine's 30-year history.
It's funny that NBC's standards still allow them to hint at smoking by butting out cigarettes and playing with a cigarette lighter but bisexuality is an ironclad no-no :rolleyes:
NYCC has shown the first episode of Constantine (It was also leaked online)
Let me start that I was never a big fan of Constantine. I saw him ever now and then in the comics and when I heard he was getting his own TV show, I was like, meh. Now after watching the first episode, I have to say....
Spoiler
I was wrong. This show is awesome. If you love Doctor Who or Torchwood, then you will love this show. It has the same pacing as Doctor Who. The guy who plays Constantine is on point. I really enjoy this guy acting and it made the show very enjoyable. The only I can see that could go wrong with it is that when you see this show first thing that will pop in your mind is BBC. In the back of my head I kept thinking that this show would be awesome on BBC with Being Human, Doctor Who, etc. I just can't see this great show doing well on NBC. I hope I'm wrong, but we'll see.
So I saw the premiere today. Never read the comic, but I quite liked it. The special effects were pretty cool, very creepy. Seems like a good setup for a super natural series, I hope it does well.
I'm liking it too. The guy they got for Constantine is wonderful. Loved the Dr. Fate easter egg. Pretty good for a pilot, though a bit crammed due to worldbuilding, but pilots are always a little rough.
Fingers crossed that it will continue to be good.
I watched it on the weekend, and I liked it. I agree with GG, the actor for Constantine (Matt Ryan) is really good; he sells the whole show. Harold Perrineau was also quite good. I would watch more. The Dr. Fate easter egg was cool.
Saw the pilot on demand... honestly yeah, a ton of shows have come out that built on Hellblazer BUT they dont have what the comic has and what the show seems to have... a flawed character at the core who has made some really stupid mistakes in his past.
- Summon a demon to exorcise another demon, Astras soul gets gobbled up in the process. (TV Show)
- Summon a demon to bring a mobsters son back to life, almost facilitates an antichrist to be born on earth (comic)
- Summon a demon to fix a broken appliance, ok, that has not happened but it might as well.
He has a lot of demons... literally... and those around him are in danger. I love two fisted, arse kicking supernatural shows (buffy, supernatural) and this looks great.
Episode 4 was pretty decent ... it's basically the first story from the Hellblazer comics, although toned down.
Looks like this show has been cancelled, since NBC is capping it at 13 episode and not taking in a full season order. Kind of a bummer because, while it did start awkwardly, it was noticeably improving.
Quote from: Starman on November 28, 2014, 09:42:58 PM
Looks like this show has been cancelled, since NBC is capping it at 13 episode and not taking in a full season order. Kind of a bummer because, while it did start awkwardly, it was noticeably improving.
I'm more of in the thinking they just went for capping it at 13 episodes until Warner Television decides where to put it since it obviously missed it's target audience on a Friday night. When you have Arrow/The Flash on the CW getting fantastic ratings while Gotham is maintaining it's audience on a Monday but Constantine is dropping off slowly on Friday even paired up with Grimm. I agree that this series should have been paired up with Gotham on the same night right off the bat but it's core audience is more of the folks who would be tuning in for Supernatural or even Doctor Who/Torchwood on the BBC. I'm thinking once it's released in a collection after it completes it's run that it will probably jump networks.
- CQ
I'm hoping it jump networks because I don't think NBC knows how to handle the show.
Quote from: Starman on November 28, 2014, 09:42:58 PM
Looks like this show has been cancelled, since NBC is capping it at 13 episode and not taking in a full season order. Kind of a bummer because, while it did start awkwardly, it was noticeably improving.
Apparently the network still considers season 2 a possibility. Capping it at 13 supposedly had a lot to do with the late start and performance not giving NBC enough to decide on the back 9.
I like the show, I wouldn't be upset if it ended, but there's enough there that I hope it continues.
NBC has had success capping Sleepy Hollow at 13, but still renewing it, so it's possible it isn't actually canceled.
I hope it gets its renewal - there are definite improvements happening.
The show is great but what they should do is change the day. Instead of Fridays, they need to put it on earlier in the week.
I can understand why it's on Friday - it pairs well with Grimm.
That said, the show is consistently improving. After a rough start and a hm-drum episode or two, it's really gotten its legs. I squee'ed a little when he lit up at the end of the latest episode.
And Hector Salamanca debuts as Felix Faust. :)
That worked out better than expected.
So what was the HUGE easter-egg related to Flash in episode 12,everyone is talking about? :unsure:
I looked it up, since I don't watch Constantine, and the name of a magazine is the same in both shows. Which I'd hardly call huge.
Thanks,I couldnt find it anywhere,strangly.I wouldnt call it huge either,but some people o twitter would apparently.
Apparently some consider this proof that they take place in the same universes, but I found screenshots and they don't even look like the same magazine, in spite of having the same name.
I saw the theory,but sadly there is just no way for that.BTW,if its not a bother,can you link the screenshots? :)
Nah, I don't remember where I found them and you can search Yahoo as easily as I can.
Yup,found it.Not that big of a proff,really...
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