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Title: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: murs47 on July 15, 2012, 07:40:24 PM
Marvel announced/confirmed their next set of movies at SDCC. Ant-Man, Thor 2, Captain America 2, and Guardians of the Galaxy.

Some very exciting news. The highlight for me was:

QuoteNext, a logo for the sequel to "Captain America: The First Avenger," officially called "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" appeared onscreen, triggering a wild reaction from the crowd.

HECK YES!

Full article can be read here (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39832).
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: spydermann93 on July 15, 2012, 07:48:59 PM
Ant-Man? :blink:

Can't wait to see what they do with that :thumbup:
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: Podmark on July 15, 2012, 07:55:11 PM
A concept pic of GotG was shown. (http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2012/07/14/cci-marvel-reveals-titles-for-thor-captain-america-sequels/) Looks really good.
Really excited about the Winter Soldier storyline being used.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: oldmanwinters on July 15, 2012, 08:50:57 PM
Hooray for Bucky!

Perhaps we'll find out that Peggy Carter was also cryogenically frozen in the 1950s?   :lol:
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on July 15, 2012, 09:02:02 PM
I know I'm excited...I'm not really an Iron Man, Captain America, Thor or Avengers fan (as I'm more of an underdog hero/team fan)...But I've really enjoyed all of these Marvel movies (my least favorite was Thor).  I really wish Marvel could get the movie rights back to Spidey so they were making Spider-Man films, instead of Sony...I'd like to see Spider-Man included in this universe too (The X-Men and Fantastic Four also).

I'm also glad to hear of the possible Guardians of The Galaxy movie too...I really started to like that team, until Marvel put the book on hiatus (translation: canceled it).

Dana
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: steamteck on July 24, 2012, 05:40:26 PM
well.Antman fills me with inertia but Marvel studios has an incredible track record. I hated the Winter soldier stuff but then again I hated Doomsday and Dc animated Justice league made him pretty tolerable. thor 2 yipeee! Guardians of theGalaxy could be great or horrible depending and again Marvel has a great track record.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: captainawesome on July 24, 2012, 06:04:29 PM
Can't wait to see what they do with the Ant-Man film. I hope they stick with Pym for the movie without portraying him as a psycho. Nothing against Lang, I just prefer the original. It would also be hard for Wasp not to be in it to.

Captain America and Thor sequels sound awesome, loved the first ones.

Guardians of the Galaxy I'm unfamiliar with (I'm a silver-age fan), but given Marvel's previous work, it should be good.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: MJB on July 25, 2012, 05:47:53 AM
Yes to Pym. NO to psycho Pym. Give it a rest already. We had a semi-sane version of Pym in the Avengers cartoon. We don't need a big screen version of "crazy Pym".
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: Tomato on July 25, 2012, 12:50:34 PM
Quote from: captainawesome on July 24, 2012, 06:04:29 PM
Can't wait to see what they do with the Ant-Man film. I hope they stick with Pym for the movie without portraying him as a psycho. Nothing against Lang, I just prefer the original. It would also be hard for Wasp not to be in it to.

Pretty much every snippet of actual information we've gotten about the Antman film is that it's going to be Scott Lang in modern times, with flashbacks to Pym.

That said, we haven't actually seen any forward momentum on that film at all for years. Antman was supposed to come out with the first set of movies, and it's still at the exact same place it was five years ago. All that's changed in the last few months is that somebody went into photoshop and made a logo. Seriously, when it is news that they're finally testing out the cgi of the pym size changing to see if it even works (Have we heard about any movie doing that? ever?) I think it's safe to say a movie is solidly in development hell.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: BWPS on July 25, 2012, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: Tomato on July 25, 2012, 12:50:34 PM
Quote from: captainawesome on July 24, 2012, 06:04:29 PM
Can't wait to see what they do with the Ant-Man film. I hope they stick with Pym for the movie without portraying him as a psycho. Nothing against Lang, I just prefer the original. It would also be hard for Wasp not to be in it to.

Pretty much every snippet of actual information we've gotten about the Antman film is that it's going to be Scott Lang in modern times, with flashbacks to Pym.

That said, we haven't actually seen any forward momentum on that film at all for years. Antman was supposed to come out with the first set of movies, and it's still at the exact same place it was five years ago. All that's changed in the last few months is that somebody went into photoshop and made a logo. Seriously, when it is news that they're finally testing out the cgi of the pym size changing to see if it even works (Have we heard about any movie doing that? ever?) I think it's safe to say a movie is solidly in development hell.

What? Size changing? I doubt the special effect people have been doing for 70 years is the problem. I think it's more a master of no one cares about Ant-Man or wants to see a movie about him.

Winter Soldier is one of the best comic book stories I've ever read, so I'm ten kinds of titcited for that. Marvel's movies deserve every billion they've ever made. And though I liked Amazing and loved First Class, I'd love to see them work with their two best franchises. Maybe after Sony and Paramount manage to screw up these reboots as well they'll sell the rights back.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: Tomato on July 25, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: BWPS on July 25, 2012, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: Tomato on July 25, 2012, 12:50:34 PM
Quote from: captainawesome on July 24, 2012, 06:04:29 PM
Can't wait to see what they do with the Ant-Man film. I hope they stick with Pym for the movie without portraying him as a psycho. Nothing against Lang, I just prefer the original. It would also be hard for Wasp not to be in it to.

Pretty much every snippet of actual information we've gotten about the Antman film is that it's going to be Scott Lang in modern times, with flashbacks to Pym.

That said, we haven't actually seen any forward momentum on that film at all for years. Antman was supposed to come out with the first set of movies, and it's still at the exact same place it was five years ago. All that's changed in the last few months is that somebody went into photoshop and made a logo. Seriously, when it is news that they're finally testing out the cgi of the pym size changing to see if it even works (Have we heard about any movie doing that? ever?) I think it's safe to say a movie is solidly in development hell.

What? Size changing? I doubt the special effect people have been doing for 70 years is the problem. I think it's more a master of no one cares about Ant-Man or wants to see a movie about him.

Winter Soldier is one of the best comic book stories I've ever read, so I'm ten kinds of titcited for that. Marvel's movies deserve every billion they've ever made. And though I liked Amazing and loved First Class, I'd love to see them work with their two best franchises. Maybe after Sony and Paramount manage to screw up these reboots as well they'll sell the rights back.

You misunderstood me dude. One of the big pieces of news they came out with recently to prove that Antman is actually moving forward was that they were doing mock ups of the cgi for the pym size changing effect. My statement was meant to convey how ridiculous that is, since no other movie has felt the need to share that kind of info with us this early in production, especially with regards to something as simple as size changing.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: BWPS on July 25, 2012, 05:31:40 PM
Oh I get what you were saying, sorry about that.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: Talavar on July 25, 2012, 06:22:09 PM
Uh, the news out of Comic Con was that Edgar Wright (the director) shot a test reel for Ant-man.  Not to test the FX work, which was roughly done apparently, but to show how he'd use those FX, and give a sense of how shrinking is actually a useful power for fighting crime.  When you've got the director shooting test footage, that sounds like forward movement to me.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: detourne_me on July 25, 2012, 06:55:55 PM
Word is the test footage was pretty amazing. Ant man was doing stuff that he never did in the comic. Apparently one of the big selling points was him running towards a gunman at full size, shrinking down, running along the gun only to punch him in the face then go full size and judo throw the gunman, all in one fluid motion.  People were calling it 'size-fu'
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on July 26, 2012, 02:21:53 AM
If they can pull that kind of thing off, make the size changing into a fighting style all its own that looks effective, then that would be something I'd really like to see.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: Mr. Hamrick on August 08, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
marvel.com/news/story/19196/joss_whedon_to_write_direct_avengers_2 (http://marvel.com/news/story/19196/joss_whedon_to_write_direct_avengers_2)

No comments necessary
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: BentonGrey on August 08, 2012, 10:33:30 PM
Cool, that sounds interesting and promising, though, that is the kind of stuff Ant-Man has done in the comics.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: spydermann93 on August 09, 2012, 04:36:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. Hamrick on August 08, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
marvel.com/news/story/19196/joss_whedon_to_write_direct_avengers_2 (http://marvel.com/news/story/19196/joss_whedon_to_write_direct_avengers_2)

No comments necessary

Sounds good to me!

But I'm not sure what to think about the live action Marvel tv show. Live action hero shows rarely turn out better than "ok."
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: Mr. Hamrick on August 09, 2012, 05:34:08 PM
Quote from: spydermann93 on August 09, 2012, 04:36:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. Hamrick on August 08, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
marvel.com/news/story/19196/joss_whedon_to_write_direct_avengers_2 (http://marvel.com/news/story/19196/joss_whedon_to_write_direct_avengers_2)

No comments necessary

Sounds good to me!

But I'm not sure what to think about the live action Marvel tv show. Live action hero shows rarely turn out better than "ok."

I've heard rumblings about what the live action TV show is going to be and if it is then it will work with Whedon's style.  That said, if it is that project then I've got some questions about various parties commitments to the overall project. 

Another things I have heard is that Cobie Smoulders has a nine picture deal to appear as Maria Hill.  If you are keeping score, that is the same deal that Sam Jackson signed to appear as Nick Fury.   I know Cobie to be committed to the role but wondering if her being on the cast of "How I Met Your Mother" is going to affect any future projects. 

(Before you say anything, think about what the TV project might be.)
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: laughing paradox on August 10, 2012, 10:49:15 PM
I wouldn't mind a Marvel TV show, if it was about the Marvel Universe, and not just Daredevil, or Spider-Man or any particular character specifically.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: Panther_Gunn on August 10, 2012, 11:22:42 PM
Quote from: laughing paradox on August 10, 2012, 10:49:15 PM
I wouldn't mind a Marvel TV show, if it was about the Marvel Universe, and not just Daredevil, or Spider-Man or any particular character specifically.

While an excellent idea, that might be a tough sell to a studio/network, and the general viewing audience.  Both like to have a central cast of recurring characters they can identify with and follow; making it more open ended might not work for them. 

Now, if they made it SHIELD-centric, and had different heroes coming in to assist the agents in different episodes (preferably in story arcs, so we'd get to see 2-4 episodes of a particular hero or group), I think that could work rather well.  Thanks to the Avengers (and the tie-ins), the public is aware of SHIELD, and kind of what they do.  Start the series off with Iron Man and/or Hulk, have some cameos by any of the remaining four movie Avengers, and then branch out from there.  An awesome Daredevil/Black Widow episode could be done. While most of the X-Men (those featured in the movies), Spider-Man, and the FF would be off of the table for this (at least without difficulty), there are plenty of mutants and Avengers that haven't been in any of the movies.  I'm finding it hard to think of any heroes that don't fall into one of those two camps that haven't already been done (I'm sure I'll come up with a huge list once I'm done posting this, though).  They could introduce the skrulls, the original Mar-Vell, the Inhumans, AIM, expand on Hydra, etc.  There would be plenty of room to branch out & write great stories.

But, of course, they won't do that, will they?   <_<
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: Tomato on August 15, 2012, 11:40:57 PM
The Doctor (http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/christopher-eccleston-is-villain-malekith-the-accursed-in-thor-the-dark-world-20120801) is now (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/christopher-eccleston-final-talks-thor-2-villain-357399) a Thor villain (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Doctor-Who-Christopher-Eccleston-Could-Play-Villain-Thor-Dark-World-32255.html).
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: BentonGrey on August 16, 2012, 12:33:16 AM
Yeah, I had heard that, and it seems like pretty good casting to me. 

Apparently, Daredevil is soon going to be back in Marvel's wheelhouse as a movie property.  That seems like pretty good news to me.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on August 16, 2012, 06:16:15 AM
Quote from: spydermann93 on August 09, 2012, 04:36:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. Hamrick on August 08, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
marvel.com/news/story/19196/joss_whedon_to_write_direct_avengers_2 (http://marvel.com/news/story/19196/joss_whedon_to_write_direct_avengers_2)

No comments necessary

Sounds good to me!

But I'm not sure what to think about the live action Marvel tv show. Live action hero shows rarely turn out better than "ok."

I'd still love to see the original X-Men (as well as Prof X and all their villains) in a series similar to Smallville (but better and sticking closer to the comics)...Super powered teens, but in their case hated by the normal humans they're fighting to save.

Dana
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: martialstorm on August 16, 2012, 12:04:26 PM
I think that's a great idea Dana, the seasons could show progressive mutation or development of abilities. Plenty of scope for teen angst as well.

Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: Tomato on August 16, 2012, 12:09:56 PM
Quote from: cmdrkoenig67 on August 16, 2012, 06:16:15 AM
I'd still love to see the original X-Men (as well as Prof X and all their villains) in a series similar to Smallville (but better and sticking closer to the comics)...Super powered teens, but in their case hated by the normal humans they're fighting to save.

Dana

So... entirely unlike smallville you mean?
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: Shogunn2517 on August 17, 2012, 02:19:37 PM
Quote from: cmdrkoenig67 on August 16, 2012, 06:16:15 AM
Quote from: spydermann93 on August 09, 2012, 04:36:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. Hamrick on August 08, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
marvel.com/news/story/19196/joss_whedon_to_write_direct_avengers_2 (http://marvel.com/news/story/19196/joss_whedon_to_write_direct_avengers_2)

No comments necessary

Sounds good to me!

But I'm not sure what to think about the live action Marvel tv show. Live action hero shows rarely turn out better than "ok."

I'd still love to see the original X-Men (as well as Prof X and all their villains) in a series similar to Smallville (but better and sticking closer to the comics)...Super powered teens, but in their case hated by the normal humans they're fighting to save.

Dana

I completely agree.  I can't remember the book, but I remember reading one at earlier last decade when Smallville got big, but it was an X-Men book, Beast was the popular football jock, Angel was your typical rich kid with rich people problems, Cyclops was a kid from a broken home being used.  It almost worked in a concept I'd love to have seen in a episodic format.  They could have done a lot with it.  The X-Men lends towards that format with so many characters, real life themes and stories to tell, it just makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on August 17, 2012, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: Tomato on August 16, 2012, 12:09:56 PM
Quote from: cmdrkoenig67 on August 16, 2012, 06:16:15 AM
I'd still love to see the original X-Men (as well as Prof X and all their villains) in a series similar to Smallville (but better and sticking closer to the comics)...Super powered teens, but in their case hated by the normal humans they're fighting to save.

Dana

So... entirely unlike smallville you mean?

LOL...Well yes, of course.

Dana
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: JeyNyce on August 21, 2012, 05:47:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsb1voUDXtY&feature=youtu.be

A video about some of the upcoming Marvel project and other movie info.  The first 5 1/2 minute is worth watching.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: XStream on August 21, 2012, 09:03:02 PM
Shogunn, that book was called Children of the Atom.

I read a rumor last week on the new television project...
Spoiler
Hulk

I can't remember where I read it, but the article was written as if it had been announced... Although I haven't seen it announced.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on August 21, 2012, 11:00:53 PM
The particular project was announced like 2 years ago.  It's probably just someone repeated old, no longer valid, news.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: Mr. Hamrick on August 22, 2012, 03:53:10 AM
Quote from: XStream on August 21, 2012, 09:03:02 PM

I read a rumor last week on the new television project...
Spoiler
Hulk
I can't remember where I read it, but the article was written as if it had been announced... Although I haven't seen it announced.

Heard a similar rumor.  The two leading candidates for what the TV show project is are

Spoiler
Hulk and S.H.I.E.L.D.

but it IS Whedon so it could be something else entirely.  I would not be surprised to something that could introduce new characters to be used in the context of Avengers 2 down the road.  Personally, I would not mind seeing

Spoiler
Heros for Hire
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on August 22, 2012, 12:31:02 PM
I would love a good Marvel TV show regardless.  I would prefer for it to be set in the movie continuity if possible.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: Mr. Hamrick on August 22, 2012, 03:59:22 PM
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on August 22, 2012, 12:31:02 PM
I would love a good Marvel TV show regardless.  I would prefer for it to be set in the movie continuity if possible.

The movie continuity is almost a definite.  My only question is will the events of the show be post Avengers film at first or will it all pick up prior to the events of the film?  Neither would surprise me.  Given that it is TWO YEARS until the second film, it wouldn't surprise me to see one season of pre-Avengers 1 and one season of film leading to Avengers 2. 

Hasn't it been said somewhere that all the live action "Marvel Studios" stuff will be in the same continuity and same universe?
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on August 22, 2012, 05:20:35 PM
Some of the earlier plans for the Hulk series made it sound like it was separate.  Those plans sound very different from whatever is being planned now, though.
Title: Re: Marvel Studios: Phase 2
Post by: BWPS on August 22, 2012, 10:42:25 PM
Are movie rights connected to TV rights? Or would a live action X-Men universe show be doable?

No matter what, this TV show we know nothing about is extremely exciting anyway.