So I added Dr Manhattan to my ever growing list of character to my freedom force game. I try to always make the characters as close as possible and more or less ignore balance. Yet when I made him I based it off some Faserip stats and, well... he might be a little too overpowered. I tested him by fighting some heroes, powerfull ones and he had no issue defeating them. I tested him against my version of Galactus and he managed to beat him without a scratch.
Should I rather make Galactus stronger or Manhattan weaker? I wish the attributes had more level (15 to 20 instead of 10).
How do you guys decide on your characters strength? What incarnation media adaption to you base it off?
I don't think you have too. Doc Manhattan is pretty much the alpha and omega of superheroes. Since he has awareness of his entire being at all points in time, he's pretty much omnipotent and has complete manipulation of his molecules and the molecules around him. And that's the point of his character right?
Galactus is like an old car by now... Sure he's powerful but he dies and needs a jump start pretty often.
Youre right if you think about it the Fantastic 4 beat Galactus plenty of times and so did Silver Surfer and they are weaklings in comparioson. The "Deja Vu" Duplication really fits to Manhattan and becomes very powerfull. He could even take it up with the Anti-Monitor where 5 clones were blasting him constantly.
You know, I was never fond of the idea of Galactus losing to Earth time and time again. I mean, yes, Earth has superheroes, but he's destroyed planets that can vaporize said heroes. I know they can't kill off Earth in mainstream Marvel, but Galactus is extremely powerful and a being of immense power.
Dr. Manhattan is another powerhouse capable of immense molecular manipulation, but his power, while impressive, isn't enough to defeat Galactus if Galactus put forth his full power against him. Galactus' ability to manipulate reality and energy exceeds Dr. Manhattan's ability by much, much more than his conflicts with the Fantastic Four would lead to believe. Galactus also possesses the ability to drain/boost another's powers many fold, rendering them ineffective or making them strong enough to be an interplanetary threat (see his Heralds for an idea). Am I saying that Galactus would uber-stomp Dr. Manhattan? No, not at all. It would be a battle of cosmic proportions, though.
And both entities have weaknesses. Galactus' weakness is his armor (should it break, it would turn him into a raging star of pure energy), armor of which Dr. Manhattan would have little trouble breaking; Dr. Manhattan's weakness is Takyon energy, something of which Galactus is sure to be able to manipulate.
Both are beings of immense power, but if it came down to it, I believe Galactus would win, but not easily.
Interesting thought, but translating that into Freedom Force might be somewhat difficult (the FX Weakness dissadvantage might be the awnser). For a RPG that would be good to consider.
Aye, that's what I base most of my knowledge on.
Well, RPG and official stats and the like :P
I'd give that one to Galactus. Doc's powerful within his own universe, sure, but its a very pared down universe.
Doc Manhattan has two main physical abilities:
1) He can rearrange matter. I don't know how much, but probably not on a planetary scale. The most we ever see from him is the construct he built on Mars. Theres also no precedence for him trying to transmute power-cosmic-charged matter or force fields or anything like that, since none of this existed in the Watchmen.
For comparison, Galactus created the Silver Surfer, who can do pretty much the same thing.
2) He's indestructible - he doesnt need a physical body to survive, and can reform one no matter what you do to him. (FFX Dispersed Form without the degradation of HP). This doesn't mean he's immune to more exotic attacks like stopping time around him, or telepathy or any number of things like that present in a fully fleshed out superhero universe.
Swamp Thing had the same ability, and Lex Luthor screwed it up with a standard communications scrambler.
Doc also has precognition, but I'm sure Galactus can create a swarm of tachyons by blinking.
Galactus, on the other hand, has very poorly defined abilities. He can turn ordinary people into Thor-level heavy hitters using a fraction of his power. He has machines that help him extract energy on a planetary level. He survived passage from the Big Crunch of the previous universe through the Big Bang of this one. Basically, he flouts the laws of physics, whereas Doc Manhattan kind of adheres to them.
Its unclear whether Galactus could kill the Doc, but I think he could ceratinly neutralise him.
Unless he was too hungry of course :)