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Freedom Force Forums => Freedom Force Discussion => Topic started by: Ewzzy on June 21, 2010, 05:10:16 PM

Title: Let's talk about skins and compression.
Post by: Ewzzy on June 21, 2010, 05:10:16 PM
I've written up a document on compression, file size, and visual clarity of skins for Freedom Force.
http://www.freedomforce.ewzzy.com/tgavdds.php

Let's talk.
Title: Re: Let's talk about skins and compression.
Post by: Xenolith on June 21, 2010, 05:29:06 PM
Interesting results. 

How would this apply to fx?  The same way?  I want to make some billboard effects.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Let's talk about skins and compression.
Post by: Podmark on June 22, 2010, 03:14:28 AM
Very interesting. I never think to save in DDS. Maybe I should.
Also maybe I should start skinning at 1024....
Title: Re: Let's talk about skins and compression.
Post by: murs47 on June 22, 2010, 03:30:23 AM
Is there a way to open and save .dds files in CS4? The NVIDIA plug-in is not supported past CS3.

Title: Re: Let's talk about skins and compression.
Post by: Podmark on June 22, 2010, 03:57:25 AM
Quote from: murs47 on June 22, 2010, 03:30:23 AM
Is there a way to open and save .dds files in CS4? The NVIDIA plug-in is not supported past CS3.



Are you using the 64 bit version of Photoshop CS4 Murs? The normal version is supposed to work with the plugin I believe.
Title: Re: Let's talk about skins and compression.
Post by: murs47 on June 22, 2010, 04:14:52 AM
Yes. I've read something about Photoshop installing a 32-bit and 64-bit version simultaneously. But, it seems it installed the 64-bit versions in both the "Programs" folder and the "Programs (x86)"
Title: Re: Let's talk about skins and compression.
Post by: deano_ue on June 22, 2010, 07:10:19 PM
the dds add on, does work in the 32bit, hopefully this is fixed in cs5.

i did save my work as dds, but i found after changing laptops i had different settings so i'm not sure whats the best way to save at the moment
Title: Re: Let's talk about skins and compression.
Post by: Xenolith on June 22, 2010, 11:52:05 PM
I found a free .tga to .dds converter: DDS Converter 2, btw.
Title: Re: Let's talk about skins and compression.
Post by: Ewzzy on June 23, 2010, 03:38:25 AM
@Xenolith I tried DDS Converter 2 but I couldn't get it to get a low enough file size. As for FX, it still applies but but handling alpha blending can be tricky.
@Murs I haven't had a lot of luck with the Photoshop plugin but the command line/drag and drop tool from Nvidia works quick without any arguments. I recommend trying out ATI's Compressonator (http://ati.amd.com/developer/compressonator.html). It works even if you aren't on an ATI card.
@Podmark I skin at 1024 and I love how it gets me such crisp lines. Knowing your style, you might benefit as well.