http://www.mania.com/captain-america-casting-soon_article_120361.html
Casting for The First Avenger: Captain America is due within the next several weeks. Of course there's no telling who they'd cast as of right now. However, I'm sure we all have a good idea of who we would like to play the role of Steve Rodgers. So would anyone have at least a top 5 that they'd like to see play the role?
Here's some inspiration:
5. John Cena - One of a couple of molds I can see being casted in the role. Cena, of course being from the WWE wouldn't be the first time a Hollywood blockbuster looked out of the box of Hollywood leading men to find someone from another form of entertainment to play a role. He certainly has the build and has been broken in with several action movies produced by the WWE in recent years.
4. James Badge Dale - Another mold of character actor I can see being casted in the role would be the kind of actor that has played the soldier role. Dale is probably best known for his work in the 3rd season of 24 and in The Departed, but he will also be starring in the upcoming miniseries The Pacific, the WWII Eastern Front answer to Band of Brothers.
3. Eric Johnson - Johnson was one of my favorites to see if they were doing the casting several years ago. Hot off of his role as Whitney in the premiere season of Smallville he was the title role in the Syfy series Flash Gordon and is young, good looking, blonde enough and looks as if he could get in such a role. No really big knocks on him other than the luster on his name has worn off since Flash Gordon ended.
2. Matt Damon - Now, if Joe Johnston wanted to go for the big time acting chops, Matt Damon is the one actor he can hardly fail with. He can certain act and pull of a regretful, serious in command and control type of personality I'd see they'd take with the character. He can do action well, the Bourne Trilogy certain showed this and he'd give the character, the movie and ensemble cast of the Avengers even more credibility. Would be the safest idea for the role in my opinion. Maybe not the best though.
1. Channing Tatum - Channing Tatum is young, good looking, a solid performer and despite being in a dreadful POS of a movie G.I.J.O.E. The Rise of Cobra, he did pull off the role of Duke, being a soldier, a leader who was believeable and likeable. He has a good built that can be believable passed off as "peak human condition" and definitely has the leading male ability. He's really hot in Hollywood these days. He has a movie due out this month, a sequel to GI Joe has been announced and can draw a crowd. In my opinion, he would not only be the best idea for casting the role, but it makes the most sense to me.
Thoughts? Who would you like to see?
I'm squarely against Cena getting the role unless it could be assured that Vince McMahon and WWE films would not be allowed anywhere near the production. I mean like not only as not apart of the production but McMahon not allowed within 100 miles of the set.
And Channing Tatum? Not sure but who knows that he'd do it. He had some issues signing on for G.I. Joe until Joseph Gordon Levitt talked him into it. I'm not sure I would trust him to do the role proud.
As much as I have issues with him, I'd say maybe pull in Damon.
Honestly, I think they need a relatively unknown American actor though to play the role. Seriously! Whoever gets the role needs to be seen as Steve Rogers/Captain America. Not as "big name actor in the role of Captain America"
Then surround him with a supporting cast of recognizable names.
The alternative is if you have a big name actor who can successfully "disappear" into the role. IE: the way Swank and Theron did for their roles in "Boys Don't Cry" and "Monster" respectively.
The only one of those who is anywhere close to the right LOOK for the role is Eric Johnston, but I'd say he's the best of a bad lot. I'm for them searching for an unknown.
I wouldn't mind Chris Pine from Startrek as Cap.
Cena I would be against for the same reasons as Mr. Hammrick because Vince would try to at least get executive producer credit like he did on the Rock's movies.
I'd go Matt Damon. He can easily pack on some weight to play the role, and he's capable of doing some awesome fight scenes(Bourne series). On top of that, he's a very good actor.
He doesn't have strong enough features to be Cap...I know that sounds weird, but I'm standing by it. :P
He does lack the chin. Heh. My choice was more focused on physical abilities and acting skills. If it was based on pure aesthetics, I'd go Eckhart.
Quote from: murs47 on February 07, 2010, 07:13:15 AM
He does lack the chin. Heh. My choice was more focused on physical abilities and acting skills. If it was based on pure aesthetics, I'd go Eckhart.
Yeah, and your arguments are good in those areas...don't get me wrong, I think those things are the most important...but Cap's got to look the part as far as I'm concerned.
Cena would be a lousy choice even if you didn't have to worry about Vince McMahon.
If you want a pro wrestler for Captain America, take a look at Ken Anderson (former Mister Kennedy....KENNEDY!). If you go by Cap's Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe stats, and believe Anderson's, he's 2 inches shorter and 5 pounds lighter than Cap.
However....
1. He's got (fairly ugly) tattoos, so you'd have to add body paint to the budget.
2. I know he did the direct to video sequel to Behind Enemy Lines and some other things, but I haven't seen them so I don't know if he can actually act.
3. He's now in TNA, so instead of Vince McMahon getting involved, you'd have to worry about Bischoff and that company he has with Jason Hervey (yes, the older brother on The Wonder Years) and maybe Hulk Hogan.
4. I'm not sure he looks quite ripped enough.
As an in-joke they could have one scene where Cap introduces himself that goes like this:
"I'm Captain America." *pauses, points to the A on his mask* "AMERICA!!"
Oh, and if we get into showing WW2 heroes still alive in the modern day when Cap gets to that point, call me crazy, but I'd cast Christopher Plummer as the now elderly original Union Jack.
i'd go no-name all the way.as far as invader characters give nic cage a flat top and pointy ears and youve got namor.
Yep, Cap has to be a no-name. I can't think of anyone that looks the part.
Quote from: herodad1 on February 07, 2010, 12:59:23 PM
i'd go no-name all the way.as far as invader characters give nic cage a flat top and pointy ears and youve got namor.
Please, lord no.........
Quote from: BentonGrey on February 07, 2010, 06:08:52 PM
Quote from: herodad1 on February 07, 2010, 12:59:23 PM
i'd go no-name all the way.as far as invader characters give nic cage a flat top and pointy ears and youve got namor.
Please, lord no.........
Would you feel better if they put him in a long blonde wig & cast him as Spitfire?
So I suggest five and so far only seen one more outside of going with an unknown to be suggested. Any other suggestions?
I honestly doubt they'd go with a unknown. In regard to Anderson(Ken Anderson the wrestler), I've seen him act with intensity, but I don't know what he can do in terms of being more of a dramatic actor.
Sam Worthington and Mark Valley would also be good.
But I'm thinking they should go with Matt Damon on this one. Cap is too important to go to an unknown.
I was going to say Mark Valley also, he's tall, blonde, with strong features and he's even an ex-soldier.
If I had to go with a guy with more acting chops, I'd say Aarron Eckhart, he might be a little off on the face (though Tobey M. wasn't exactly what I pictured for Spidey either), but I bet he could really pull off the "man out out time" angle with some actual pathos.
Of course ever since I saw Travolta's Broken Arrow I've always pictured Howie Long playing Cap (Flatop, square chin)
And if all else fails there's always Ryan Reynolds(his name always seems to be attached to a comics-based movie)
Hmm.......Valley's ex-military, hmm? I have to say, that actually sounds pretty good. He looks the part too. Can he act?
Mark Valley is currently playing a DC hero at the moment. That would be The Human Target.
I doubt he would get cast as Cap for that reason. However, his name as been brought up for the role.
Okay, I've watched an episode of the Human Target on Hulu. I have to say, Valley seems like he'd be pretty good for the part. He's a bit on the older side to be playing a 19/20 year old, but that might help give him a bit of presence. So far, he's the only one suggested that I think could really work.
I think we're going about this all wrong. What made Spider-man so great? They had a good Peter Parker. What made Iron Man so good? Robert Downey Jr played they heck out of Tony Stark. What we need to be looking for is a person to play Steve Rogers well.
Quote from: JeyNyce on February 08, 2010, 03:16:45 PM
I think we're going about this all wrong. What made Spider-man so great? They had a good Peter Parker. What made Iron Man so good? Robert Downey Jr played they heck out of Tony Stark. What we need to be looking for is a person to play Steve Rogers well.
Here's the thing, Spiderman didn't have a good peter parker. In spiderman tobey mcguire had no personality. Its the only 3 movies i hate him in! I LOVE him in Pleasantville, i mean heck, that is the personality he needed for peter parker. He was a good Spiderman, i just didn't like him as peter parker. I mean, how many of these dull facial expressions did we get in just the 1st movie:http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/tobey-maguire/tobey-maguire-20040720-4400.jpg
Quote from: BentonGrey on February 08, 2010, 01:39:17 PM
Okay, I've watched an episode of the Human Target on Hulu. I have to say, Valley seems like he'd be pretty good for the part. He's a bit on the older side to be playing a 19/20 year old, but that might help give him a bit of presence. So far, he's the only one suggested that I think could really work.
I just did the same. Yeah he's old. But man, is he a good choice. I wouldn't mind if they changed his age but the look is perfect and he can act.
I do agree that I'd prefer a good actor to someone who just looks the part.
I don't want to rant too much but Cena is the absolute worst possible choice for this role. As in, I'd honestly rather Dakota Fanning. He is the worst actor ever (see recent guest role on Psych) and he talks like a moron.
Is this still going to be set almost completely in WWII? I think that'd be rad to see The Human Toroch (so very unlikely) and Namor, but even if not this movie has HUGE potential. A "cliffhanger" ending in which he falls into ice and "dies" or have him unfrozen at the end or even after credits would be awesome.
Quote from: BWPS on February 08, 2010, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on February 08, 2010, 01:39:17 PM
Okay, I've watched an episode of the Human Target on Hulu. I have to say, Valley seems like he'd be pretty good for the part. He's a bit on the older side to be playing a 19/20 year old, but that might help give him a bit of presence. So far, he's the only one suggested that I think could really work.
I just did the same. Yeah he's old. But man, is he a good choice. I wouldn't mind if they changed his age but the look is perfect and he can act.
I do agree that I'd prefer a good actor to someone who just looks the part.
I don't want to rant too much but Cena is the absolute worst possible choice for this role. As in, I'd honestly rather Dakota Fanning. He is the worst actor ever (see recent guest role on Psych) and he talks like a moron.
Is this still going to be set almost completely in WWII? I think that'd be rad to see The Human Toroch (so very unlikely) and Namor, but even if not this movie has HUGE potential. A "cliffhanger" ending in which he falls into ice and "dies" or have him unfrozen at the end or even after credits would be awesome.
Yeah, there is EVERY reason this movie should be awesome, and with Marvel's track record lately, I have high hopes! Man, it would be soooo cool to see some of Cap's WWII buddies show up...but I think that might be a bit tough to do in this movie. I mean, imagine trying to explalin Namor in the few minutes you'd get if he were only a supporting character.
Who would need to explain it?
"Who's that guy?"
"Namor. Thinks he's king of Atlantis or something."
"...what, seriously?"
*waves hand* "It's complicated. Don't worry about it."
And just have him screwing with submarines or something. Like a cameo. Flesh him out in Avengers or the Fan4 reboot.
Quote from: BentonGrey on February 08, 2010, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: BWPS on February 08, 2010, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on February 08, 2010, 01:39:17 PM
Okay, I've watched an episode of the Human Target on Hulu. I have to say, Valley seems like he'd be pretty good for the part. He's a bit on the older side to be playing a 19/20 year old, but that might help give him a bit of presence. So far, he's the only one suggested that I think could really work.
I just did the same. Yeah he's old. But man, is he a good choice. I wouldn't mind if they changed his age but the look is perfect and he can act.
I do agree that I'd prefer a good actor to someone who just looks the part.
I don't want to rant too much but Cena is the absolute worst possible choice for this role. As in, I'd honestly rather Dakota Fanning. He is the worst actor ever (see recent guest role on Psych) and he talks like a moron.
Is this still going to be set almost completely in WWII? I think that'd be rad to see The Human Toroch (so very unlikely) and Namor, but even if not this movie has HUGE potential. A "cliffhanger" ending in which he falls into ice and "dies" or have him unfrozen at the end or even after credits would be awesome.
Yeah, there is EVERY reason this movie should be awesome, and with Marvel's track record lately, I have high hopes! Man, it would be soooo cool to see some of Cap's WWII buddies show up...but I think that might be a bit tough to do in this movie. I mean, imagine trying to explalin Namor in the few minutes you'd get if he were only a supporting character.
See, this is what i wanted to happen in wolverine. I wanted there to be a small cameo for captain america pre-supersoldier experiment. Have Logan be like "What the *#*# happened to Steve? He just vanished off the face of the earth or something?" But, since wolverine was a travesty, its alright. Anyhow, i think Captain America should be a war film like Saving Private Ryan, and an awesome super hero movie like Ironman. Make it all WWII, just the basics of him being recruited, getting super-ified and then show him at war trying to take down the red skull. After all, captain America was a soldier first and foremost. And then, as the final battle sequence goes down between cap and red skull, for some reason the redskull gets away/jumps into a vortex/freezes himself and so Captain America is preserved until he is needed again. THEN something sweet in the credits.
I've heard some stuff about this movie that will probably tick a few people off here.
Spoiler
They are going to put Cap with the USO and having him do a "song and dance number". This is not a joke. From what I hear, the idea is that he wants to be out on the battlefield but they are afraid of losing him. He basically goes AWOL to go join the troops in battle then proves that himself to be the leader on the battlefield we all know him to be from there.
It kinda makes sense.
It's also been announced that the main villain will definitely be The Red Skull.
http://www.newsinfilm.com/2010/02/08/joe-johnston-spills-details-on-captain-america/ (http://www.newsinfilm.com/2010/02/08/joe-johnston-spills-details-on-captain-america/) and http://www.cinemaspy.com/article.php?id=3976 (http://www.cinemaspy.com/article.php?id=3976)
Quote from: Mr. Hamrick on February 09, 2010, 06:09:28 AM
It kinda makes sense.
Makes sense to me too.. especially when he is the only survivor of the experiment so they make him into a Uncle Sam with a patriotic outfit. I think that most of us fans are a little quirky after the Spider-Man dance numbers started moving pass the little joke from the first movie. Besides it explains the reasoning behind his patriotic look and why his first appearance might be closer to Ultimate Captain America with lots of WWII uniform parts and equipment strapped over his "stage costume" that photographers capture in battle which helps them come with a more battle ready version of his uniform.
And the idea of adding The Invaders is wonderful news..
- CQ
Quote from: Mr. Hamrick on February 09, 2010, 06:09:28 AM
I've heard some stuff about this movie that will probably tick a few people off here.
Spoiler
They are going to put Cap with the USO and having him do a "song and dance number". This is not a joke. From what I hear, the idea is that he wants to be out on the battlefield but they are afraid of losing him. He basically goes AWOL to go join the troops in battle then proves that himself to be the leader on the battlefield we all know him to be from there.
It kinda makes sense.
It's also been announced that the main villain will definitely be The Red Skull.
http://www.newsinfilm.com/2010/02/08/joe-johnston-spills-details-on-captain-america/ (http://www.newsinfilm.com/2010/02/08/joe-johnston-spills-details-on-captain-america/) and http://www.cinemaspy.com/article.php?id=3976 (http://www.cinemaspy.com/article.php?id=3976)
The USO thing makes sense. In flashbacks he often talks about how he was a symbol to rally American support and how Bucky was an answer to the Hitler Youth propaganda. But where did you hear this about a "song and dance number"? I didn't read it in either article and while I know you're probably right, I definitely hope that doesn't end up happening.
Song and dance, huh? so it's between Tim Curry and Zac Efron?
Well Disney does own Marvel now so its time to suit up Zac Efron as cap, lol
Quote from: Ares_God_of_War on February 09, 2010, 08:29:48 PM
Well Disney does own Marvel now so its time to suit up Zac Efron as cap, lol
Noooooooo, the horror..... the horror!
I'm not sure if you guys ran across the fandom thread about a single actor that fans looking for an unknown have been rooting for..
His name is Ben Ryan.. he is an actor and film student but a single video he did sparked attention because he looked so much like Steve Rogers/Captain America drawings and paintings that have been done. So a Captain America fan stumbled across said video he did and has been trying to point Paramount/Marvel casting towards him in the past several months.
This is the video getting so much attention: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWDyoO42qIw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWDyoO42qIw)
Of course Ben got news of this and threw together his own version of a Captain America minimovie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdqgLJMSWQ&annotation_id=annotation_1234&feature=iv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdqgLJMSWQ&annotation_id=annotation_1234&feature=iv)
Honestly I think he would look perfect for the part and he is the kind of unknown you want to build a character on..
However, I still think that.. Tahmoh Penikett (aka Halo from Battlestar Galactica and Paul Ballard from Dollhouse) has the best chance to get the part since he has that military look and the chin plus already has established himself among fans as a seasoned actor who can handle a part like Steve.
- CQ
Well, Ben Ryan certainly LOOKS the part.
What about the guy who has actually read for the part? http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3864829184/nm0574131
Does he look the part?
What if this was a picture of Clark Kent and Steve Rodgers together? http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1891733248/nm0574131
Also other actors who have officially read for the role are WB/CW actors that some are like a bit more familiar with; Jensen Ackles(Supernatural/Smallville) and Chad Michael Murray(One Tree Hill/Dawson's Creek/Gilmore Girls).
Of the three, Ryan McPartlin is the oldest, but lesser known and if Johnston was serious about going with an unknown I'd think he'd be the leading candidate... maybe.
Quote from: Shogunn2517 on February 10, 2010, 05:36:23 AM
What about the guy who has actually read for the part? http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3864829184/nm0574131
Does he look the part?
What if this was a picture of Clark Kent and Steve Rodgers together? http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1891733248/nm0574131
Yeah, I watched Super Capers just a few weeks back on a whim and found Ryan McPartlin could fit the role of a superhero quite well.. and I'd be pretty satisfied if he ended up as Captain America since he is quite tall and after some training and bodywork could tone up enough to pull off the enhanced build that a super soldier would need.
- CQ
Ooh, new info. The director revealed that the Invaders will feature prominently in the second half of the movie, so you likely will indeed get Namor.
http://movies.ign.com/articles/106/1067382p1.html
Ohh....I'm...cautiously excited about that. It would be AWESOME for Namor to actually show up and kick Ratzi backside, but I am a bit concerned about how they'll push it off. Also, if they introduce six other heroes, it could overshadow Cap. Still, I'm likely borrowing trouble, and I have to say that seeing some costumed heroes take it to the Nazis would make my year! :D
Quote from: crimsonquill on February 10, 2010, 03:56:20 AM
I'm not sure if you guys ran across the fandom thread about a single actor that fans looking for an unknown have been rooting for..
His name is Ben Ryan.. he is an actor and film student but a single video he did sparked attention because he looked so much like Steve Rogers/Captain America drawings and paintings that have been done. So a Captain America fan stumbled across said video he did and has been trying to point Paramount/Marvel casting towards him in the past several months.
This is the video getting so much attention: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWDyoO42qIw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWDyoO42qIw)
Of course Ben got news of this and threw together his own version of a Captain America minimovie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdqgLJMSWQ&annotation_id=annotation_1234&feature=iv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdqgLJMSWQ&annotation_id=annotation_1234&feature=iv)
He doesn't ooze triumphant charisma like Cap should. I do not get the sense that he's a paragon of justice and freedom in this vid, and above all else, that is an absolute necessity for anyone playing the part.
Its video that shows still pictures of him. He can't exactly ooze or convey anything.
FYI, Thought I'd link an article that says that the studio's favorite(as of now) is a fan favorite from last year to get the part:
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2010/02/chris-pine-is-latest-to-be-lin.html
As well as a couple of unknown models who have auditioned.
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2009/06/new-candidate-campaigns-for-ca.html
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/?a=14163
BTW, considering what they did with the Super Soldier Serum in The Incredible Hulk and with Tim Roth not buffing up(physically) before/after the serum, then I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they'll pick someone who's physique isn't overly muscled. Though tone and definition would be understandable(and probably in demand), I doubt having a huge build would be a qualification. Which would be favorable for someone like Pine.
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on February 13, 2010, 10:10:34 PM
Its video that shows still pictures of him. He can't exactly ooze or convey anything.
The second video shows him speachifying as Cap, and frankly he's pretty bad.
Quote from: Shogunn2517 on February 13, 2010, 10:21:31 PM
FYI, Thought I'd link an article that says that the studio's favorite(as of now) is a fan favorite from last year to get the part:
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2010/02/chris-pine-is-latest-to-be-lin.html
As well as a couple of unknown models who have auditioned.
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2009/06/new-candidate-campaigns-for-ca.html
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/?a=14163
BTW, considering what they did with the Super Soldier Serum in The Incredible Hulk and with Tim Roth not buffing up(physically) before/after the serum, then I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they'll pick someone who's physique isn't overly muscled. Though tone and definition would be understandable(and probably in demand), I doubt having a huge build would be a qualification. Which would be favorable for someone like Pine.
My only issue with casting Pine is feeling that Captain Kirk is getting identified as Captain America. And they have already cast the elder Kirk from that movie as Thor.
Quote from: Mr. Hamrick on February 14, 2010, 01:14:45 AMMy only issue with casting Pine is feeling that Captain Kirk is getting identified as Captain America. And they have already cast the elder Kirk from that movie as Thor.
So, what you're saying is.....Thor was Cap's father all along? That makes certain things make a *lot* more sense now!
Wow, like *that* wasn't something straight from the WB/CW writing staff!
well, any ideas on what the plot for the AVENGERS movie may be. do you think they'll unite to fight the hulk like in the original? now that would be something to see!
That guy Ben Ryan, looks like cap, but he would need a 1yr+ for acting & speech lessons. Chris Pine is ok for cap, but he's Kirk! Kirk can't be Cap!! It's unheard of!!! LOL!
Here is some picks for the role accourding to Yahoo
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.reuters.com/jim-from-office-among-captain-america-contenders-reuters
I don't really like any of them... But Jim from the Office? Its an 'interesting' choice to be sure.
Perhaps its a ploy to make everyone else look better.
Quote from: Shogunn2517 on February 10, 2010, 05:55:30 AM
Also other actors who have officially read for the role are WB/CW actors that some are like a bit more familiar with; Jensen Ackles(Supernatural/Smallville) and Chad Michael Murray(One Tree Hill/Dawson's Creek/Gilmore Girls).
I could get behind Jensen Ackles. He's a straight-up badarse in Supernatural, he could totally pull off a charismatic leader figure.
Quote from: Zippo on February 27, 2010, 05:14:10 AM
Quote from: Shogunn2517 on February 10, 2010, 05:55:30 AM
Also other actors who have officially read for the role are WB/CW actors that some are like a bit more familiar with; Jensen Ackles(Supernatural/Smallville) and Chad Michael Murray(One Tree Hill/Dawson's Creek/Gilmore Girls).
I could get behind Jensen Ackles. He's a straight-up badarse in Supernatural, he could totally pull off a charismatic leader figure.
Yeah, I agree with you
Scheduling conflict. I think he's out of the running.
Looks like John Krasinski is going to be Captain America if the listing on IMDB is accurate.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458339/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458339/)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1024677/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1024677/)
So, he's "announced" for the part in the Avengers movie, but only "rumored" for the part in the Cap movie, which is supposed to come out first??? :blink:
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on March 08, 2010, 07:23:19 AM
So, he's "announced" for the part in the Avengers movie, but only "rumored" for the part in the Cap movie, which is supposed to come out first??? :blink:
I'm assuming that the "official" announcement is forthcoming this week.
Sounds like a hoax to me. I'd expect we'd hear about it from news sites first.
Quote from: Podmark on March 08, 2010, 07:33:00 AM
Sounds like a hoax to me. I'd expect we'd hear about it from news sites first.
Not necessarily, Podmark.
What's more likely is that someone is jumping the gun and leaking it before the formal announcement is made.
Personally, if it were my company, I would *FIRE* the PR person who officially announced who was playing a part in a sequal before it was officially announced that he was playing the same part in the movie it's supposed to be a sequal of.
Seriously, let's look at the "Cast" they have listed for the Avengers movie so far. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/fullcredits#cast (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/fullcredits#cast)
Iron Man, Thor, and Nick Fury are all pretty solid, barring anything strange happening between then & now.
Hawkeye, Black Widow, War Machine, and Loki?!? Is there even an approved script yet? Are any of these characters even *in* the movie? Having Hawkeye as "Rumored" is one thing, but those others is just plain wild supposition based on the fact that they've been cast in other movies. I highly doubt we'll see Black Widow or War Machine in the Avengers movie, because it will be hard enough to get proper screen time for everyone else that needs to be in it, let alone they shouldn't even be in an Avengers story for quite some time down the road, if at all. Loki is a possible initial foil for the team, but until it's been announced, that should be listed as "Rumored" as well.
And then we get to the Hulk. I can see Norton being "Rumored", if he hasn't comitted to the picture yet, but to really have Ferigno down as the voice of the Hulk, even rumored, makes me put as much faith in IMDB as I would AICN.
ok, I'm done ranting for the evening. Don't anybody take it personally. ;)
I did a little detective work. It seems as if IMDB is using the link from the MTV Splashpage that says John Krasinski is the "Fan Favorite" in a poll with the other four actors who are on the reported shortlist(Chace Crawford, Scott Porter, Mike Vogel and Michael Cassidy). Of those five Cassidy and Porter have stated that they will not be receiving the role. Of the other three, though Krasinski is listed on The First Avenger and The Avengers and has the role listed under his bio, but so does Crawford and Vogel. Beyond that, Joe Johnston had walked away due to salary constraints and we know of Terrance Howard's and other actors in Marvel productions have had problems with salary constraints, I think Marvel would want someone who they think won't command a larger salary, which would not lend to them selecting Krasinski.
For some reason, IMDB seems to be going off of a fan poll of who is the favorite(I CERTAINLY don't understand why) and billed him. They've been wrong before, but since Chace Crawford and Mike Vogel both also have "The First Avenger: Captain America" on their pages, we can't say that he has the role yet.
A guy at work told me Ben Afleck had been confirmed for the part of Cap. I had to go into the break room so I could let out my scream of fury without customers hearing. I am so glad it is not true.
I'm gonna punch him for scaring me like that though.
Quote from: Gremlin on March 09, 2010, 05:04:08 PM
A guy at work told me Ben Afleck had been confirmed for the part of Cap. I had to go into the break room so I could let out my scream of fury without customers hearing. I am so glad it is not true.
I'm gonna punch him for scaring me like that though.
Silly face, Ben Affleck has said he'd never wear a costume again after he did Daredevil because it was a source of embarrassment for him.
As it should be!
Quote from: Previsionary on March 09, 2010, 06:25:06 PM
Quote from: Gremlin on March 09, 2010, 05:04:08 PM
A guy at work told me Ben Afleck had been confirmed for the part of Cap. I had to go into the break room so I could let out my scream of fury without customers hearing. I am so glad it is not true.
I'm gonna punch him for scaring me like that though.
Silly face, Ben Affleck has said he'd never wear a costume again after he did Daredevil because it was a source of embarrassment for him.
And he for it. ;) Heh, actually I never thought Daredevil was that bad. Still, that guy from the Office is a joke, or at least he had better be. :P
I can agree with all three of those sentences.
my girlfriend was watching Grey's Anatomy, and I thought there might be some good choices there.
-Patrick Dempsey
-Eric Dane (played Multiple Man in X-Men 3)
-Justin Chambers
what do you think?
I remember thinking I liked Dane when I saw him in Valentine's Day. But from the director they're going for someone under the age of 35, which would disqualify him and Dempsey.
I think I like Justin Chambers less than John Krasinski.
Patrick Dempsey as Cap? HECK NO!!!
If we're considering actors too old for the part, how about Sean Patrick Flanery, Josh Holloway or Christian Kane?
UPDATE!!!
Spoiler
CAPTAIN AMERICA Cast-O-Rama!
Anticipation around the casting of the lead in Marvel's 'First Avenger: Captain America' continues to heat up with multiple stories erupting on the web about who is in and who is out.
First order of business. Comedian Dane Cook will not be playing Cap in the movie. The comedian apparently did go after the role and told his fans so on twitter. First he claimed that he had to get into top shape for the audition. When asked if he was serious he confirmed that he did audition but, "[Marvel] They might [be going] young."
Yes, Dane. That's why you didn't get the part. They're going young. No hard feelings?
Meanwhile, the Fox411 blog came out yesterday and all but said 'Office' actor John Krasinski is a lock for the role.
"John has read 4 times and is doing screen tests," unnamed source told Fox411. "He has screen tested 2 times so far. It's very likely that he will be the new Captain America. He is a favorite among the key decision makers and has been asked to come back for more this week."
The source alleges Krasinski has read several times with prospective leading ladies.
But wait! The typically reliable Deadline.com tells a completely different story. There, former Variety MVP Micheal Fleming reports that Krasinski is out, as are most of the big seven candidates who blipped on everyone's radar a few weeks back.
Adding some credence to the Krasinski drop-out is the news that the actor just signed a two picture deal to appear in a romcom franchise called 'Something Borrowed' which starts filming this spring.
So, according to the Deadline report, the only two left standing from that list are Garrett Hedlund (seen this week in the super-cool 'Tron: Legacy' trailer) and Mike Vogel ('Cloverfield').
One new name Deadline is adding to the list is a C2F fave: Chris Evans. Fans know Evans from his scene stealing turn as Johnny Storm in the 'Fantastic Four' movies, not to mention the upcoming 'Losers'. We personally think Evans is a great actor with plenty of range and charisma. Check out his no-nonsense military man in Danny Boyle's 'Sunshine'. You won't even recognize him.
As seems to always be the case with the Marvel movies, money will be an issue. According to Deadline, the studio is looking for an actor to make a nine-movie commitment to playing the Star Spangled Avenger. Obviously 'Captain America' and 'The Avengers' are two of those films. Sequels would be two to four more. Presumably some cross-over action might occur as well. The starting salary for the 9 movie gig? A mere $300k.
'The First Avenger: Captain America' is slated to arrive in theaters on July 22, 2011.
What do you think, Maniacs? Where do you want Krasinski in this equation? What about Evans? Any other contenders who must be considered? Post your comments below...
Thanks to CaptainSigma and AntoBlueberry for the submission.
http://www.mania.com/captain-america-casting-update_article_121127.html
Vogel might work.
Okay, don't laugh at me.
I watch the Young and the Restless. Yes, I do. Anyway, of the rumors of the names now linked to the role is Wilson Bethel, who also satisfied one of my earlier requsites playing a soldier "Q-Tip" in Generation Kill from HBO. Watching him on both shows, I actually think he could pull off the mood that the character and film would demand, but I also think he'd have to bulk up tremendously. The problem with him and some of the other announced candidates is the youth in their look. They're looking for someone who can pass for a character in their mid 20's, just slightly older than fresh-faced soldiers 18 or 19 years old, but young enough to be taken seriously. Bethel looks too young.
Hell, if I could pick a character from The Young and the Restless, I'd like to have seen Daniel Goddard(you'd know him from the Beastmaster TV series), but he wouldn't fit the age or American requirement they're looking for.
Evans??? Maybe, but I would have a hard time taking him seriously since he's hardly seen that way at all.
I can see Chris Pine as Cap. Need to bulk up tho.
Quote from: GhostMachine on March 10, 2010, 06:58:11 AM
Patrick Dempsey as Cap? HECK NO!!!
If we're considering actors too old for the part, how about Sean Patrick Flanery, Josh Holloway or Christian Kane?
what's wrong with Patrick Dempsey? I don't think he's any worse than John Krasinski...
as for age, why does the actor HAVE to actually be in that age group? They pick actors who are older for younger parts all the time. With that said I think Eric Dane could look the part, easily.
my votes for JACK LELANNE! his super soldier juice is apples,carrots, and ginger. :lol:
Quote from: Shogunn2517 on March 11, 2010, 01:32:11 AM
Okay, don't laugh at me.
I watch the Young and the Restless. Yes, I do. Anyway, of the rumors of the names now linked to the role is Wilson Bethel, who also satisfied one of my earlier requsites playing a soldier "Q-Tip" in Generation Kill from HBO. Watching him on both shows, I actually think he could pull off the mood that the character and film would demand, but I also think he'd have to bulk up tremendously. The problem with him and some of the other announced candidates is the youth in their look. They're looking for someone who can pass for a character in their mid 20's, just slightly older than fresh-faced soldiers 18 or 19 years old, but young enough to be taken seriously. Bethel looks too young.
Hell, if I could pick a character from The Young and the Restless, I'd like to have seen Daniel Goddard(you'd know him from the Beastmaster TV series), but he wouldn't fit the age or American requirement they're looking for.
Evans??? Maybe, but I would have a hard time taking him seriously since he's hardly seen that way at all.
Emphasis added.
*Shakes head* :D
UPDATE!
Is it Smith.... or Schmidt?
Spoiler
Weaving Circling Red Skull Role?
The Hollywood Reporter's Heat Vision blog reports that Marvel Studios are keen to recruit actor Hugo Weaving to be the ratzi villain The Red Skull in their 'First Avenger: Captain America' movie.
Reportedly the Marvel and Weaving camps are in the process of hashing out a deal. As is typical with the Marvel movies, a contract for Hugo would include a lower-than-average salary and possibly a sequel clause. So Heat Vision cautions that the deal is not locked at this point.
Furthermore, the Red Skull is a character who will likely have very few scenes (if any) where he's not in complete face make up, which is always a tough sell for actors (try getting Michael Chiklis and Julian McMahon to keep their faces covered for a whole movie). But hey, it worked out for with Heath Ledger's Joker.
Weaving is, of course, a fan favorite ever since he exploded into the mainstream as the laconic Agent Smith in 'The Matrix'.
Director Joe Johnston is slated to roll cameras on the film this year.
Ahh... for me Hugo Weaving is like the tiny version of Ron Pearlman, a great character/voice actor who does not get leading man roles because he does not look the part of a hollywood leading man.
If this turns out to be true I need to know how far in advance I can buy tickets.
I'd like to see Aaron Eckhart on the role.
Cleft chin, all-american face, good actor, not too mainstream...
If he bulks up some, hand the man a shield 'cause he is ready to take the Nazi cause down a notch or two.
Weaving is a great actor, and he can CERTAINLY do a villain of Skull's caliber...the only question is, can he do a German accent? :)
Quote from: BentonGrey on March 13, 2010, 12:04:10 AM
Weaving is a great actor, and he can CERTAINLY do a villain of Skull's caliber...the only question is, can he do a German accent? :)
I thought he made a very convincing and non offensive Elf in the Lord of the Rings series. Seriosly though I'm sure he can, I'm just wondering if the red skull will be campy and larger than life or understated. See Jigsaw in Punisher War Zone... I thought it was a great role but man was it played campy, althought it kind of worked. And if they cant get him they should go with Christoph Waltz, the creepy but charmingly evil natzi from Inglorious Basterds.
Hugo Weaving would be great, but now that u mentioned Cristoph Waltz I can deffinitely see him doing this role.
Quote from: lugaru on March 13, 2010, 04:53:30 AM
Quote from: BentonGrey on March 13, 2010, 12:04:10 AM
Weaving is a great actor, and he can CERTAINLY do a villain of Skull's caliber...the only question is, can he do a German accent? :)
I thought he made a very convincing and non offensive Elf in the Lord of the Rings series. Seriosly though I'm sure he can, I'm just wondering if the red skull will be campy and larger than life or understated. See Jigsaw in Punisher War Zone... I thought it was a great role but man was it played campy, althought it kind of worked. And if they cant get him they should go with Christoph Waltz, the creepy but charmingly evil natzi from Inglorious Basterds.
If they play the Skull as campy I will likely be very angry.
I only have 1. Casper Van Dien!!!! Nuff said! :thumbup:
UPDATE!
Spoiler
CAPTAIN AMERICA Casting Phillipe, Tatum and Knightley in the mix?
The brouhaha over the casting of 'The First Avenger: Captain America' continues, only now it's expanded out to the lady parts.
First an update on our leading men:
Deadline.com reports that Marvel has approached Channing Tatum for the role. They say he very likely skipped the audition process since his recent turns in 'G.I.Joe' and 'Dear John' have positioned him as a bankable name. They're saying that, if Marvel advances the conversation with him, it'll be in the form of an offer for the role, not an audition.
At this point, however, they're not saying that an offer is on the table.
Meanwhile, the Motion Captured blog at Hitfix is saying that Ryan Philippe is also a contender. While they only cite anonymous sources, MTV Splash Page was able to confirm the news with Philippe at the SXSW festival yesterday.
"(I) actually am going in to meet on 'Captain America,' which is kind of cool," Phillippe told MTV. "After Superman, he was kind of my favorite."
So you can add Tatum and Philippe to the list of names which also includes Chris Evans, Mike Vogel, Garrett Hedlund and Wilson Bethel.
Deadline.com has the scoop on Marvel's attempts to cast the female lead in the movie as well. According to their report, Marvel is looking for an English lass to play the love interest in the movie. Leading contenders are said to be Keira Knightley, Alice Eve and Emily Blunt. Fans will recall that Marvel had cast Blunt as the Black Widow in 'Iron Man 2', except a scheduling conflict caused her to drop out.
Deadline says the women are vying for the role of Peggy Carter, Cap's World War 2 era flame and aunt to his modern-day love interest Sharon Carter. However, a similar report at the Heat Vision blog says the role in question is that of Betsy Ross, who eventually becomes the costumed hero Golden Girl. Golden Girl is a member of The Invaders, who director Joe Johnston has previously said figure into the story.
Did I call it?
At this point flip coin or throw a dart.... the results seem like they would be the same as this whole casting thing.
Reb Brown.
What the hey - I'll throw this (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1634362/story.jhtml) onto the pile.
Well, there are now "multiple" sources pointing towards an offer being made.
My opinion? He wouldn't be the worse choice.
And yet, still relatively terrible.
Let's add these guys while we're at it:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20353555,00.html
http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/03/evans-accepts-captain-america-mantle.html
Don't know if I trust this, we'll see.
Say it ain't so!
It is.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458339/
No rumored. No other actors. No doubt.
Chris Evans is Captain America.
I pretty much like him in superhero movies, he was ok as Johnny Storm Human Torch (who isn't that great of a character to begin with but at least it was accurate) and I really liked him in Push (even though I'm the only one in I know who has seen it). But he played the wisecracking type in both and he just doesn't seem serious enough. But maybe if he smiles less. He's pretty much American looking and with longer and blonde hair, he may look the part pretty well. I don't think it's a particularly good choice but it's a lot better than almost all the other rumors in this thread. It's a way worse choice than Ryan Phillipe who looks the part (I mean you can't tell he's 36 at all) and has a face that makes my heart skip beats even though I'm a heterosexual man.
Not that I thought they would before, but that pretty much confirms The Human Torch (the cool robot one) won't be a part of the movie Invaders, huh?
Quote from: Shogunn2517 on March 23, 2010, 02:19:07 AM
It is.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458339/
No rumored. No other actors. No doubt.
Chris Evans is Captain America.
Yahoo is even running it as one of their front page stories. :blink: :rolleyes:
The only thing that bothers me about the choice is that he is doing SO MANY comic book movies.
"The Losers"
2 "Fantastic Four" films
"Scott Pilgrim vs. The World"
now several films as Captain America...
and while he was one of the better things about The Fantastic Four movie... I don't know if he can bring the needed seriousness and intensity to Captain America.
Course... people doubted Heath Ledger could play The Joker.
I'm going to keep my hopes up, but if he's going to be Cap, then the Fantastic 4 needs a revamp. He can't be Johnny & Cap. People will get confuse.
Given the list of contenders, I'm actually ok with it.
And I imagine since Fox still retains the rights to the FF in film form, this has an added bonus of Marvel sticking it to Fox a little by stealing the actor and re associating him with a marvel production. Not that FF was anything to be trumpeting as massive success...
And if you haven't seen Sunshine (The Sci Fi Danny Boyle movie) Evans was in it as a military guy and while the movie is just so-so, he was really good in it.
Jon Favreau has posted on his twitter that Evans is Captain America. So it looks pretty official. I don't know what to expect, I've only seen him in the first FF movie and Johny is a much different character than Steve. We'll see.
Bleeding Cool (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/03/23/ryan-phillippe-and-keira-knightley-to-star-in-captain-america-according-to-a-woman-on-the-bus/)news has posted a rumour that Keira Knightley and Ryan Phillippe have been cast as well. They suggest they might play Peggy Carter and Bucky. This one is still very much a rumour at the moment though.
Quote from: JeyNyce on March 23, 2010, 12:49:04 PM
I'm going to keep my hopes up, but if he's going to be Cap, then the Fantastic 4 needs a revamp. He can't be Johnny & Cap. People will get confuse.
I have never bought this argument. People know what actors are and what kind of work they do.
Quote from: Uncle Yuan on March 23, 2010, 08:16:01 PM
Quote from: JeyNyce on March 23, 2010, 12:49:04 PM
I'm going to keep my hopes up, but if he's going to be Cap, then the Fantastic 4 needs a revamp. He can't be Johnny & Cap. People will get confuse.
I have never bought this argument. People know what actors are and what kind of work they do.
Yup, and I think the Fantastic Four series has been discontinued. The next one we see will probably have a new team. Still like you say, I dont expect Nick Fury to kill snakes on a plane while chaining white girls to radiators and spouting bible verse... new movie, new character. Which is a shame, that would make Nick awesome.
I'm taking a "wait and see" attitude with Chris Evans being cast as Cap. My hope is that he'll do the work...gain some size and gets in the best shape of his life and take the material and the role seriously...Cap deserves that. This more than any other of the "Marvel" franchise movies is what I've been looking forward too. I hope to god the script is good.
Quote from: Blkcasanova247 on March 23, 2010, 09:35:05 PM
I'm taking a "wait and see" attitude with Chris Evans being cast as Cap. My hope is that he'll do the work...gain some size and gets in the best shape of his life and take the material and the role seriously...Cap deserves that. This more than any other of the "Marvel" franchise movies is what I've been looking forward too. I hope to god the script is good.
Everything Ive read says that we should be worried about the script waaaay more than the casting....
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on March 23, 2010, 09:41:02 PM
Quote from: Blkcasanova247 on March 23, 2010, 09:35:05 PM
I'm taking a "wait and see" attitude with Chris Evans being cast as Cap. My hope is that he'll do the work...gain some size and gets in the best shape of his life and take the material and the role seriously...Cap deserves that. This more than any other of the "Marvel" franchise movies is what I've been looking forward too. I hope to god the script is good.
Everything Ive read says that we should be worried about the script waaaay more than the casting....
I'm beginning to be worried about both....I don't want to be. I want to be optimistic. :P
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on March 23, 2010, 09:41:02 PM
Quote from: Blkcasanova247 on March 23, 2010, 09:35:05 PM
I'm taking a "wait and see" attitude with Chris Evans being cast as Cap. My hope is that he'll do the work...gain some size and gets in the best shape of his life and take the material and the role seriously...Cap deserves that. This more than any other of the "Marvel" franchise movies is what I've been looking forward too. I hope to god the script is good.
Everything Ive read says that we should be worried about the script waaaay more than the casting....
do tell because from what i've heard it's a decent concept in the script
Quote from: lugaru on March 23, 2010, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: Uncle Yuan on March 23, 2010, 08:16:01 PM
Quote from: JeyNyce on March 23, 2010, 12:49:04 PM
I'm going to keep my hopes up, but if he's going to be Cap, then the Fantastic 4 needs a revamp. He can't be Johnny & Cap. People will get confuse.
I have never bought this argument. People know what actors are and what kind of work they do.
Yup, and I think the Fantastic Four series has been discontinued. The next one we see will probably have a new team. Still like you say, I dont expect Nick Fury to kill snakes on a plane while chaining white girls to radiators and spouting bible verse... new movie, new character. Which is a shame, that would make Nick awesome.
Both of you guys are right, I guess I'm not giving viewers enough credit.
didn't they publicly state Fantastic Four was being rebooted? Pretty sure they did.
I don't know how I feel about their choice. I think it's odd considering he's already played a Marvel hero very, very recently, and we all know it. I would have preferred someone else. I really don't want to be watching this movie and seeing "Johnny Storm with a shield". You know?
He isn't the worst choice. At least he has some talent. But he's known for his funny frat-guy antics in the roles he plays, with a few notable exceptions people already pointed out.
What's up with casting Backstreet Boys to play truculent, musclebound comic books icons? First Chris Hemmsworth as Thor, and now Chris Evans as Captain America...
I haven't seen much of Hemmsworth, so all I can whine about is his looks, but Evans definitely should not play Captain America, in my opinion... He looks like too much of a boy, and does not have the "presence", so to speak, that I'd expect of someone who should play Captain America. Not to mention his voice. He's gonna need some work in order to shout "Avengers Assemble!" and not sound like a high school quarterback on testosterone high rallying his team.