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Title: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Renegade on August 31, 2009, 02:00:58 PM
Stunned, I really am.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090831/ap_on_bi_ge/us_disney_marvel_entertainment
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: UnfluffyBunny on August 31, 2009, 02:02:49 PM
I was just about to post this
http://marvel.com/company/index.htm?sub=viewstory_current.php&id=1343 (http://marvel.com/company/index.htm?sub=viewstory_current.php&id=1343)
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Glitch Girl on August 31, 2009, 02:06:56 PM
Me too
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22747

Honestly, I don't know what to think.  Scares the heck out of me for some reason.  Not that I'm a huge Marvel fan, I do like a number of their characters.  Personally I think being studio owned can be a hindrance (DC often feels hamstrung by WB, especially in the liveaction movie department).  Disney is notorious for getting involved in their properties... gotta wonder.

"Punhisher/Mickey Mouse" anyone?
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Renegade on August 31, 2009, 02:15:56 PM
I can see it now:

Sleeping Beauty's castle becomes Dr. Doom's Castle. Nick Fury ditches the SHIELD flying cars for a fleet of Flying Dumbo's. Space Mountain bombards riders with cosmic rays. The Thunderbolts relocate to Big Thunder Mountain.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: thalaw2 on August 31, 2009, 02:15:59 PM
This is called capitalism.  I look forward to the HULK vs Donald Duck animated feature.  Not to mention the Goofy and Deadpool crossover.  And we will finally know who has more money....Tony Starks or Scrooge McDuck.  


On the real....Maybe Disney will do the right thing and replace JQ.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Renegade on August 31, 2009, 02:21:15 PM
Iron Man vs Zurg!
Spider-man vs The Phantom Blot!
Doctor Strange vs Maleficent!
The Vision vs Armstrong
Moon Knight vs Darkwing Duck!

And of course:
The Fantastic Four vs The Incredibles!
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Renegade on August 31, 2009, 02:31:02 PM
Howard the Duck and Roger Rabbit compare notes on hairless ape love during a party at Scrooge McDuck's house, which Howard inherits after proving he's Scrooge's illegitimate son.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Talavar on August 31, 2009, 02:32:41 PM
Wow, this makes DC being owned by Warner Bros look like a good thing.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: murs47 on August 31, 2009, 02:43:46 PM
Hopefully Disney uses a "hands-off" approach with Marvel's publishing department. Movies...eh, other than Iron Man, what's there really to screw up?
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: The Hitman on August 31, 2009, 02:44:17 PM
I was just headding here too:

http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/22628.htm/

I just don't know what to think of this. The writing was on the wall, though. The X-Men: TAS DVD sets were being released through Burena Vista, a subsidiary of the great and powerful Disney.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: The Hitman on August 31, 2009, 02:46:45 PM
Oooh! Oooh! I got it-

Marvel Zombies 5: The Magic Kingdom?!

On a serious note, I hope this means a monthly Darkwing Duck comic.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Alaric on August 31, 2009, 03:01:34 PM
I think it's kind of sad. Marvel used to pride itself on not being part of some much bigger company.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on August 31, 2009, 03:03:03 PM
WTFOMGBBQ!  I am in utter shock and horror at this news....And I'm not sure what to think right now.  

In my honest opinion, Marvel has been screwed up and Marvel editorial has been screwing their characters up for years...I just have no clue what this will do for the company or it's characters....It may be really good...Or it may be absolutely horrible....We'll have to wait and see...Eeeek!

Dana  :blink:
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on August 31, 2009, 03:04:15 PM
Quote from: The Hitman on August 31, 2009, 02:44:17 PM
I was just headding here too:

http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/22628.htm/

I just don't know what to think of this. The writing was on the wall, though. The X-Men: TAS DVD sets were being released through Burena Vista, a subsidiary of the great and powerful Disney.

I think the rights to Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends has been in Disney's possession for a while now too.

Dana
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on August 31, 2009, 03:05:33 PM
I really don't want to see Marvel/Disney character cross-overs...I really, really don't (I flipping hate cross-overs and the idea of this sort of cross-over just chills me to the bones)...Arrrrggh!

Dana

BTW:  Very sorry for the multi-posts, folks...I'm just flipping out a bit...No...A lot!  :doh:
Title: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: GogglesPizanno on August 31, 2009, 03:22:39 PM
Uhhhh.... yeah.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/disney-to-acquire-marvel-entertainment-2009-08-31-9050
Title: Disney to Buy Marvel for $4 billion
Post by: JeyNyce on August 31, 2009, 03:31:50 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/business/media/01disney.html?hp

So Mickey and Spidey are doing a Marvel Team up.  I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: BentonGrey on August 31, 2009, 03:33:46 PM
I JUST saw this and was getting ready to post it.  WHY!?!?!  Man, say goodbye to the great movies that Marvel's independence has allowed.  They are about to get an albatross about their neck to match DC's. 
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: BlueBard on August 31, 2009, 03:42:39 PM
Please.  There aren't going to be any Mickey Mouse/X-Men crossovers.  Nothing more serious than a Goofy What-If? anyway.

But even if there were it couldn't be any worse than some of the other dumb stuff Marvel's pulled.  If they're out to destroy Marvel it would be nice to finish them off quick as opposed to a lingering death.

This is very likely to be more about movies than about anything else.  And for that we should all rejoice.  Disney's got the pull to make sure we see lots and lots of superhero movies.  All they have to do is not screw up the characters beyond recognition, maybe retell some classic storylines, and have awesome SFX.

Might even result in some superhero-themed attractions at a Disney park.

Disney being Disney, we probably WON'T see Marvel Zombies on film... and for that I would also be grateful.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: BentonGrey on August 31, 2009, 03:44:50 PM
I already commented on this in the Film section, but I'll add my own voice to the chorous of worried posters.  If Disney keeps their hands off, it may not be too bad of a thing.  Heck, they could go to town on the comics end of things, and it would bother me too much.  I don't buy the books anyway.  Still, Marvel has been making such great movies recently....I just don't really want to see that come to an end.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on August 31, 2009, 03:51:00 PM
Quote from: BlueBard on August 31, 2009, 03:42:39 PM
Please.  There aren't going to be any Mickey Mouse/X-Men crossovers.  Nothing more serious than a Goofy What-If? anyway.

But even if there were it couldn't be any worse than some of the other dumb stuff Marvel's pulled.  If they're out to destroy Marvel it would be nice to finish them off quick as opposed to a lingering death.

This is very likely to be more about movies than about anything else.  And for that we should all rejoice.  Disney's got the pull to make sure we see lots and lots of superhero movies.  All they have to do is not screw up the characters beyond recognition, maybe retell some classic storylines, and have awesome SFX.

Might even result in some superhero-themed attractions at a Disney park.

Disney being Disney, we probably WON'T see Marvel Zombies on film... and for that I would also be grateful.

Very good points, BB (especially about Marvel Zombies)...LOL!  I'm not going to be able to sleep today....Ick!

Dana  :blink:

BTW:  I currently buy one Marvel book...Guardians of the Galaxy (i enjoy it)...I've found everything else to be crap....And they killed off some of my very favorite characters (Alpha Flight).
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on August 31, 2009, 03:55:18 PM
Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh...It's noon and I wish I got this news after I awakened tonight...LOL!

Dana  :P

Holy Hannah, am I being tantrum boy right now or what?....Must take sleep aids...
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: Xenolith on August 31, 2009, 04:01:09 PM
Also, say good bye to the crappy comics Marvel has been producing for the last 5 to 10 years.  Comic will be kid friendly again!  Yay!
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Xenolith on August 31, 2009, 04:03:01 PM
Also, say good bye to the crappy comics Marvel has been producing for the last 5 to 10 years.  Comic will be kid friendly again!  Yay!

Yeah, I posted the same thing the other thread.  I'm happy.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on August 31, 2009, 04:06:53 PM
Truthfully, I'd love to see comics be more inclusive to kids again at Marvel too...Many of their mainstream titles have been far too "adult" for my tastes...I'd rather they kept the "adult" stuff in the Max line.

Dana
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on August 31, 2009, 04:08:21 PM
I think it's a little too soon to think that, Xenolith...We don't know what will happen.  Dreamland, here I come!

Dana
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: BentonGrey on August 31, 2009, 04:21:49 PM
Quote from: cmdrkoenig67 on August 31, 2009, 04:06:53 PM
Truthfully, I'd love to see comics be more inclusive to kids again at Marvel too...Many of their mainstream titles have been far too "adult" for my tastes...I'd rather they kept the "adult" stuff in the Max line.

Dana

Well...I would too.  However, Disney's approach to "kid friendly" seems to be more like "kids with severe head injuries friendly."  I think an attempt to tell stories more like those found in B:TAS or JLU would be a great boon to the comics industry....but that kind of balance isn't nearly as easy as simply dumbing everything down. 
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: yell0w_lantern on August 31, 2009, 04:39:36 PM
Yawn.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Previsionary on August 31, 2009, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: Xenolith on August 31, 2009, 04:03:01 PM
Also, say good bye to the crappy comics Marvel has been producing for the last 5 to 10 years.  Comic will be kid friendly again!  Yay!

Yeah, I posted the same thing the other thread.  I'm happy.

I think you're giving Disney way too much credit. They're not that uber great company they used to be. :P. Have you seen some of the shows they allow to play on their many television stations?
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: BlueBard on August 31, 2009, 04:46:33 PM
I'd be happy with some sensible executive decisions that made things less kid-unfriendly.

("No, you can NOT have Spider-Man make a deal with the devil...")

I don't mind my heroes being a little dysfunctional or tragic.  I don't like them being deviant psychos or  ethically twisted even temporarily, and I don't like them depressingly tragic on a permanent basis.

If Disney can have a morally positive impact on Marvel heroes without "dumbing down" the storylines, it's a good thing.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: BentonGrey on August 31, 2009, 04:51:46 PM
Quote from: BlueBard on August 31, 2009, 04:46:33 PM
I'd be happy with some sensible executive decisions that made things less kid-unfriendly.

("No, you can NOT have Spider-Man make a deal with the devil...")

I don't mind my heroes being a little dysfunctional or tragic.  I don't like them being deviant psychos or  ethically twisted even temporarily, and I don't like them depressingly tragic on a permanent basis.

If Disney can have a morally positive impact on Marvel heroes without "dumbing down" the storylines, it's a good thing.

Well said.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: BlueBard on August 31, 2009, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: Previsionary on August 31, 2009, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: Xenolith on August 31, 2009, 04:03:01 PM
Also, say good bye to the crappy comics Marvel has been producing for the last 5 to 10 years.  Comic will be kid friendly again!  Yay!

Yeah, I posted the same thing the other thread.  I'm happy.

I think you're giving Disney way too much credit. They're not that uber great company they used to be. :P. Have you seen some of the shows they allow to play on their many television stations?

True...  But if they don't at least pretend to be "family-friendly" that's bad for Disney's image.  Disney can get away with dark and edgy once in awhile, but probably not on a regular basis without doing damage to the "brand".

Probably also important to note that Marvel Entertainment is probably not going away to become Disney Comics.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: docdelorean88 on August 31, 2009, 05:00:36 PM
I think this has great potential. Especially for when the avengers movie comes out. Bigger budget and whatnot. If it doesn't workout they will split. In the meantime DC needs to kick it into high gear while this transition is in process. Marvel beat them to the punch as far as "a team of superheroes movie" project goes. Who knows, this might light the fire for Justice League again...or not.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Previsionary on August 31, 2009, 05:02:48 PM
Quote from: BlueBard on August 31, 2009, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: Previsionary on August 31, 2009, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: Xenolith on August 31, 2009, 04:03:01 PM
Also, say good bye to the crappy comics Marvel has been producing for the last 5 to 10 years.  Comic will be kid friendly again!  Yay!

Yeah, I posted the same thing the other thread.  I'm happy.

I think you're giving Disney way too much credit. They're not that uber great company they used to be. :P. Have you seen some of the shows they allow to play on their many television stations?

True...  But if they don't at least pretend to be "family-friendly" that's bad for Disney's image.  Disney can get away with dark and edgy once in awhile, but probably not on a regular basis without doing damage to the "brand".

This is true, though I noticed they have been trying to mature it up a bit more in recent times. My comment, however, was more about the, "say good bye to... crappy comics [from] Marvel...," than the kid friendly comment. Just because Disney gets involved doesn't mean the comics will miraculously be the comics people enjoyed from their hey day. It depends on what restrictions Disney employs and how that affects the writers. These are the same people [writers] that complained about the restrictions a marriage for certain characters presented... now imagine those same outspoken writers with Disney restrictions.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: BentonGrey on August 31, 2009, 05:06:22 PM
Right, they aren't necessarily writing these stories because they have no guidance, they are writing them because serial adventure stories are hard to come up with new material for.  It's easier to twist a character than give them real development.  Unless Disney offers them the chance to start over again, I can't imagine that those problems would go away.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: docdelorean88 on August 31, 2009, 05:09:47 PM
Quote from: The Hitman on August 31, 2009, 02:46:45 PM
Oooh! Oooh! I got it-

Marvel Zombies 5: The Magic Kingdom?!

On a serious note, I hope this means a monthly Darkwing Duck comic.
I LOVE darkwing Duck! I think there could be a serious based superherocomic from that, or at least a cool movie!

And Doctor Strange vs Maleficent would be one hell of a fight!

Look at it this way, we know there won't be any Marvel based worlds in Kingdom Hearts. If there are i will shoot someone...okay, not for real.  :)


Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: JeyNyce on August 31, 2009, 05:11:43 PM
I also believe Disney did this for the movies.  Lately Marvel has been doing very well with there movies.  who knows, in a few years we could see a Daredevil or FF reboot.  Maybe a Marvel team up with Blade and Wolverine (too much?)
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Podmark on August 31, 2009, 05:28:43 PM
Oh god this is the most frightening thing I've heard in years! I really can see any good coming out of this.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Xenolith on August 31, 2009, 05:42:08 PM
Well, by "crappy" I meant chock full of adult content.  I really do think comics should be all ages.  There will always be US1 and Team America in one form or another.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Previsionary on August 31, 2009, 05:51:33 PM
I dunno if Disney will actually be modifying much... or I've seen reports on CBR that states as much as of this moment. Disney usually has a hands off method when dealing with stuff that isn't directly under their branch (see all the shows on ABC, Pixar (when they owned it), and Touchstone).

However, if they can stop the constant crossovers Marvel is making use of these days and promote lesser known books better than Joe Q/Marvel has been doing in general, I'll consider that a good thing.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: BlueBard on August 31, 2009, 05:54:07 PM
Quote from: Xenolith on August 31, 2009, 05:42:08 PM
Well, by "crappy" I meant chock full of adult content.  I really do think comics should be all ages.  There will always be US1 and Team America in one form or another.

I don't really think it's possible to get rid of all of the "mature" content, from a marketing perspective.  Our heroes are adults and should be portrayed with adult problems.  But that's a lot different from encouraging as many forms of perversion as they can get away with... those kinds of comics aren't going away either, but at least they can keep them separate from the mainstream stuff.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Podmark on August 31, 2009, 05:59:15 PM
Hmm after reading some articles it sounds like for the immediate future there won't be any notable changes. It sounds like Disney will be taking a hands off approach. So I'm backing off to cautious. I don't like the idea of somebody that is not Marvel controlling Marvel, especially after it just got Marvel studies up and running.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: The Hitman on August 31, 2009, 06:12:10 PM
After thinking about it over my lunch break, I came to this conclusion:

... In all seriousness, I don?t think we?ll see too many changes to the comics themselves. This Disney aquisition all comes down to Marvel movie revenue. Yeah, we may see a few more ?Kid-Friendly? titles floating around, maybe a few more Disney properties come to comics (I would buy every issue of a Darkwing Duck comic. Are you reading this Disney?), but for the most part, I bet it?ll be status quo for Marvel Comics. My question is what willhappen to the properties Boom Studio have been printing comics for?...  (http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/22659.htm/#comment-162610)
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: Midnite on August 31, 2009, 06:52:51 PM
Well DC/WB better step up.

Source (http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2009/08/31/live-blogging-disney-marvel-investor-call/)

Quote- Disney CEO Robert Iger already talking Pixar-Marvel collaboration

- Disney is planning on getting out of Marvel's deals with other studios

- One S&P analyst asked why the price was so high. Disney CFO responded that Marvel was a premium property.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: deano_ue on August 31, 2009, 06:56:14 PM
 my first reaction is ahh bollocks.

but the more i think about it, disney owns touchstone Miramax and Dimension and the type of content they put out isn't affected, so i don't see the content of marvel being changed

this happen a few years ago and i would be worried but with john lasseter in charge this could be interesting.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: deano_ue on August 31, 2009, 07:11:54 PM
my first reaction is ahh crap.

but the more i think about it, disney owns touchstone Miramax and Dimension and the type of content they put out isn't affected, so i don't see the content of marvel being changed

this happen a few years ago and i would be worried but with john lasseter in charge this could be interesting.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Kommando on August 31, 2009, 07:24:44 PM
I wanna see Scrooge McDuck lay the smackdown on Howard the Duck.  :p  Maybe Marvel could make a new Disney imprint and actually make some comics directed at kids.

Disney/Marvel crossovers?  With the right characters.  Of course if you crossover with Squirrel Girl it will have the power of canon behind it.  Maybe it would be better suited for a game.  Spiderman in a new Kingdom Hearts?   :P  Though yeah, Mickey versus Doctor Doom would rock too.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: JeyNyce on August 31, 2009, 08:05:24 PM
Looking at Twitter somebody post something good:

Moon Knight versus the Gargoyles! C'mon who here wouldn't want to see that.

Anyway Disney is doing this to corner the boys market.  They have the girls already with Princesses & Hanna Montana.

Edit:  Beauty and The Hank McCoy  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: BentonGrey on August 31, 2009, 08:18:49 PM
Okay.....I have to say that a Marvel/Pixar collaboration would probably be a good thing.  I'd really like to see a classic X-Men animated movie.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: BWPS on August 31, 2009, 08:19:35 PM
This is probably good news!
Disney almost always delivers with their animated movies and shows. They have a great track record.
Pixar is owned by Disney and has an even better track record. And if they team up with Marvel, you can bet it will be great.
Universal Studios sucks when compared to Disney's parks. They haven't made many fun Marvel rides and the overall park isn't worth a ticket. Disneyworld getting a Marvel area sounds like the coolest thing since Six Flags started making all their best coasters DC-themed.
I doubt I should even mention it, but Disney characters have also been featured in some really good comic books. I wouldn't mind seeing some books that I could buy an issue of without having to read 4 TPBs to understand. That's one of the reasons why people don't read comic books, it requires too much knowledge of past events.
As far as crossovers go, I doubt we'll see that and if for some reason we do, it'll be minor and not effect anyone who doesn't like them at all. Phillip Morris owns Kraft but we never see Macaroni, Cheese, and Tobacco or even cheese flavored chewing tobacco (that is, until I get a foothold in the business). I wish people would think before they say start complaining about the Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus playing the new X-Men. Disney bought Marvel because they wanted the money that it was making. If they DO have plans to change anything, they aren't going to do it by injecting all their signature characters and Disney Channel stars into everything. I've yet to hear any complaints about things that Disney might actually consider doing.

Disney is really good at what they do and I doubt it will have anything but a positive effect on Marvel.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: crimsonquill on August 31, 2009, 08:46:00 PM
I had a negative reaction at first... just cause I kept thinking of Howard The Duck And Donald Duck teaming up.

But Disney is trying to step out of the shadows of the old company and with Pixar being in charge of the animaton studio and them already partnered on some levels with Marvel stuff in their theme parks. Plus Marvel Comics and Marvel Productions are proving themselves with Spider-Man and Iron Man.. so getting the muscle to take back the rights to X-Men, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man, and Punisher and put them under one single studio might be a good thing.

What Disney does with the comic side probably isn't going to change much except them having a long talk with Quesada about how he has been running that side of the company....plus it finally gives Disney a solid home to have their Pixar Comics.

I'm just going to wait and see what other elements of this purchase develops.

- CQ
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: JeyNyce on August 31, 2009, 08:50:05 PM
You do have a point BWPS (no pun intended) but you know people are going to have fun with this.  I can see Robot Chicken do a show on this.  Better yet give it a few days and I'll bet Somerandomguy will make a video about this on Youtube.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: GhostMachine on August 31, 2009, 08:56:21 PM
I doubt it'll happen, but I hope this leads to Joe Quesada being fired.

Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Podmark on August 31, 2009, 08:59:08 PM
Quote from: GhostMachine on August 31, 2009, 08:56:21 PM
I doubt it'll happen, but I hope this leads to Joe Quesada being fired.



Based on Joe's twitters it does not seem like it. And personally I'm ok with him staying in charge.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: murs47 on August 31, 2009, 08:59:33 PM
Quote from: crimsonquill on August 31, 2009, 08:46:00 PM
...isn't going to change much except them having a long talk with Quesada about how he has been running that side of the company...

What exactly would they talk about?
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on August 31, 2009, 09:02:52 PM
My reaction is mixed.  On the one hand, I am rather upset at Disney at the way they treated the Narnia film property, putting obstacles in their way, having unreasonably expectations, continuously delaying filming for years on both sequals, cutting the budget, going back on thier word repeatedly.

On the other hand, as long as they leave Marvel studios alone to do what they want to do, having them acquire back all the lost licenses can only be a good thing.  But I worry about movies like Incredible Hulk.  It might never have been made under Disney.  Again, I hope they just leave the studio alone.

Now a Marvel/Pixar collaboration could only be a good thing.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: murs47 on August 31, 2009, 09:07:33 PM
Quote from: GhostMachine on August 31, 2009, 08:56:21 PM
I doubt it'll happen, but I hope this leads to Joe Quesada being fired.

Probably not. In a world of Xbox's, DVDs, and "reality" TV, Joe Q sells comics quite well. If anything he'll probably be getting a raise or an extension to his contract.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on August 31, 2009, 09:15:42 PM
I've got mixed feelings about this but I'm willing to keep an open mind...just so long as Disney keeps it's hands out of the books then I'm happy.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: John Jr. on August 31, 2009, 11:08:29 PM
We don't know how much control Disney plans to exercise over Marvel. Warner always let DC free, they only interfere over the big guns (Superman and Batman) and it's a uncommon event.
Disney has a "Family" image, Marvel adopted a "Darker" mood last years. So, Marvel will suffer changes only if Disney decides exercise full control (and I don't believe this will be the case). Disney woulnd't pay big bucks to completely change her new toy.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: BentonGrey on August 31, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: John Jr. on August 31, 2009, 11:08:29 PM
We don't know how much control Disney plans to exercise over Marvel. Warner always let DC free, they only interfere over the big guns (Superman and Batman) and it's a uncommon event.
Disney has a "Family" image, Marvel adopted a "Darker" mood last years. So, Marvel will suffer changes only if Disney decides exercise full control (and I don't believe this will be the case). Disney woulnd't pay big bucks to completely change her new toy.


Well JJ, you're somewhat right.  WB doesn't interfere too much on the comics side of things, but they DEFINITELY screw with the movies.....*looks at a certain giant-mechanical-spider-minded producer*
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: Cyber Burn on August 31, 2009, 11:22:07 PM
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on August 31, 2009, 09:02:52 PM
My reaction is mixed.  On the one hand, I am rather upset at Disney at the way they treated the Narnia film property, putting obstacles in their way, having unreasonably expectations, continuously delaying filming for years on both sequals, cutting the budget, going back on thier word repeatedly.

On the other hand, as long as they leave Marvel studios alone to do what they want to do, having them acquire back all the lost licenses can only be a good thing.  But I worry about movies like Incredible Hulk.  It might never have been made under Disney.  Again, I hope they just leave the studio alone.

Now a Marvel/Pixar collaboration could only be a good thing.

Considering how much I liked the Incredibles, I think a Marvel/Pixar collaboration has alot of potential.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: John Jr. on August 31, 2009, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on August 31, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: John Jr. on August 31, 2009, 11:08:29 PM
We don't know how much control Disney plans to exercise over Marvel. Warner always let DC free, they only interfere over the big guns (Superman and Batman) and it's a uncommon event.
Disney has a "Family" image, Marvel adopted a "Darker" mood last years. So, Marvel will suffer changes only if Disney decides exercise full control (and I don't believe this will be the case). Disney woulnd't pay big bucks to completely change her new toy.


Well JJ, you're somewhat right.  WB doesn't interfere too much on the comics side of things, but they DEFINITELY screw with the movies.....*looks at a certain giant-mechanical-spider-minded producer*

I really wanted to forget this...
Ok, we can panic now.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: RTTingle on September 01, 2009, 12:13:37 AM
Wow...

floored by this...

in a good way.

Sure Disney stumbles now and then, but as a whole - they're quality entertainment. especially under Lassiter. 

BUT --- I am definitely going to shed a tear over Universal Studio's Islands of Adventure losing the Marvel Comics brand... Spiderman had no equal ridewise.

RTT
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: thalaw2 on September 01, 2009, 12:20:32 AM
This means I may never get to ride Spider-Man. 
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Renegade on September 01, 2009, 12:26:59 AM
I decided the merge the comics and films thread on this topic into one.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Glitch Girl on September 01, 2009, 02:31:28 AM
If nothing else, the Disney-Marvel deal makes for fun parodies (http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/08/if-nothing-else-the-disney-marvel-deal-makes-for-fun-parodies/)

(MODUCK... hee hee hee)
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: rain on September 01, 2009, 04:23:10 AM
I don't think Disney's main interest in this comes from any desire to really interfere with the one thing Marvel's done really well over the last 5 years, which is make movies.

I think Disney's main focus here is to use the IP. A lot of what I read today focused on the purchase of 5000+ characters.

Why?

I think where Disney really makes it's money these days is on it's straight to video offerings and tv shows. A good amount of the content on the rebranded Disney Channel recently was Marvel based. I think it's part and parcel of them trying to reach young males the same way they reach young females with stuff like "Hannah Montana" ect. While those sitcoms are huge in terms of marketability, they do not reach young males the same way as the girls.

I think what we're looking at is alot of new content based on the IP. Now I don't know what kind of quality they deliver on their straight to video rehashes of their A-list IP, because not being a parent, I'd rather (and do) watch another Saw movie than a straight to video sequel to Alladin ect.

But I think what you're going to see from this deal is a fair amount of animated and live action shows, branded and packaged for DVDs in order to hook tween boys the same way that "That's So Raven" grabbed the girls.

Not saying it will be bad... don't watch alot of Disney's product. They don't make a whole lot of stuff for me as Disney proper.

I think what this deal means is tons of straight to video animated movies. Roughly about the same quality as an Alladin 2 or Sleeping Beauty 2 and aimed at 10-16 year old boys.

take that for what you will.

Could very well be good news to many people.

Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: steamteck on September 01, 2009, 04:24:36 AM
Quote from: RTTingle on September 01, 2009, 12:13:37 AM
Wow...

floored by this...

in a good way.

Sure Disney stumbles now and then, but as a whole - they're quality entertainment. especially under Lassiter. 

BUT --- I am definitely going to shed a tear over Universal Studio's Islands of Adventure losing the Marvel Comics brand... spider-man had no equal ridewise.

RTT


I agree. My 8 year old gets upset if we go to Disney instead of universal in general actually. My kids all prefer Universal to Disney.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel?!?
Post by: rain on September 01, 2009, 04:34:11 AM
Quote from: John Jr. on August 31, 2009, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on August 31, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: John Jr. on August 31, 2009, 11:08:29 PM
We don't know how much control Disney plans to exercise over Marvel. Warner always let DC free, they only interfere over the big guns (Superman and Batman) and it's a uncommon event.
Disney has a "Family" image, Marvel adopted a "Darker" mood last years. So, Marvel will suffer changes only if Disney decides exercise full control (and I don't believe this will be the case). Disney woulnd't pay big bucks to completely change her new toy.


Well JJ, you're somewhat right.  WB doesn't interfere too much on the comics side of things, but they DEFINITELY screw with the movies.....*looks at a certain giant-mechanical-spider-minded producer*

I really wanted to forget this...
Ok, we can panic now.

I doubt it's panic time at all. I think what you're going to see is alot of "family friendly" content based on the IP. Probably a fair amount more of the straight to video animated movies (which I enjoyed).
I can't see them interfering with a film like Iron Man, or Fantastic 4. I can't think of very many movies Marvel has done on their own that went very far at all with the "adult content". There's a big difference between The Watchmen movie and Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer.

There are no sacred cows at Disney, as witnessed by their willingness to exploit any of their IPs for any reason. They want to make money like everyone else and will focus on exactly what they are doing now.... making movies that as many people can watch at the same time without offending anyone. A fair bit of that involves making products that parents can fearlessly sit their children in front of.

As was pointed out about, Disney also owns Miramax. I don't think they exercized any "parental control" over Clerks 2, Kill Bill 1+2,
or Scary Movie 4. The Kill Bill movies came out while Disney had direct control of Miramax.

Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Podmark on September 02, 2009, 12:19:40 AM
Keep in mind, unless I misunderstand these things Disney/Marvel has limited to no control over the Spider-Man movie franchise (Sony) or the X-Men, Daredevil, and Fantastic Four movie franchises (Fox). Now one thing I've read about the deal is that Marvel now has the backing to get those movie rights back - which can only be a good thing Marvel Studios wise.

Also Marvel Studios has several film projects in the works and Marvel Animated has at least five animated series plus Direct to DVD movies that they are producing. I really doubt Disney is going to dismantle any of that in the immediate future.

Early comments really make me think Disney is going to be mostly hands off, that could change in the future though.

EDIT:
I found this article interesting. (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/090831-marvel-disney-ten-questions.html)
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: marhawkman on September 02, 2009, 06:20:14 PM
yeah, and for a Disney productio Pirates of the Caribbean was extremely violent. They went so far as dismembering people....
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on September 04, 2009, 04:31:14 AM
Does anybody wonder if Disney will "defend" the copyright of Marvel's characters more actively than Marvel did?  Meaning, does anyone think we'll be a target again (for using Marvel characters in FF)?  I was just curious.

Dana
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: docdelorean88 on September 04, 2009, 05:59:06 AM
Quote from: cmdrkoenig67 on September 04, 2009, 04:31:14 AM
Does anybody wonder if Disney will "defend" the copyright of Marvel's characters more actively than Marvel did?  Meaning, does anyone think we'll be a target again (for using Marvel characters in FF)?  I was just curious.

Dana
I do think Disney will play the hero, however i don't think we have anything to worry about. We have given due credit, it is a form of fan art and no one is taking credit for the characters. There may be trouble, but i truly doubt it. That was a great question though!
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: TheMarvell on September 05, 2009, 05:53:42 PM
I just hope they don't use their stupid "vault" to lock up Marvel properties to generate demand. I really, really, hate that marketing ploy. "If you want to buy the X-Men Trilogy, you better get it now before it goes into the vault for the next decade!"  :banghead: Plus, I have a grudge against Disney for not releasing the rest of the Gargoyles cartoon out on dvd, or the 90's Spider-Man cartoon.

This could potentially be a disaster or a blessing in disguise. It's really up in the air at this point, but fans like all of us here have every right to be really concerned.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on September 05, 2009, 11:05:58 PM
Disney has not, as far as I'm aware of, gone overboard about their characters in fan settings like marvel has.  As a matter of fact, Disney is often used in parodies, and they've never fussed about it.  If anything, this could make things better for sites like ours.  At the very least, I'm pretty confident that it won't get any worse.

EDIT:  Another positive thing that Podmark's company pointed out is that we could see more Marvel-based tv shows.  Disney owns ABC, ABC family and the Disney channel, all of which could be great platforms for certain characters.  Superheros are big right now, so a marvel based TV series could do very well.  They could even make any such live action series part of the movie universe, which fans would really go nuts over, I think.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Podmark on September 07, 2009, 02:56:18 AM
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on September 05, 2009, 11:05:58 PM
EDIT:  Another positive thing that Podmark's company pointed out is that we could see more Marvel-based tv shows. 

I own a company now? Awesome. What do I sell? OOO can it be WMDs or clones of Murs or ponies??!!?

Someone told me that Disney made a deal with Sony to get the rights to the Spectacular Spider-Man series. I don't have the link for this though. I would hope they've done this to renew the show - I love that show :)
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Reepicheep on September 07, 2009, 09:55:21 AM
Disney never struck me as being in it for the money. Or if they are, theres no need to be - they have it by the truckload. In which case, I imagine that they're buying marvel not for the profit but in order to do something with the characters.

This gives me hope.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Gremlin on September 22, 2009, 07:00:45 AM
Quote from: Reepicheep on September 07, 2009, 09:55:21 AM
Disney never struck me as being in it for the money.

...what, seriously? The kings of copyright?
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: UnfluffyBunny on September 23, 2009, 12:23:26 AM
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Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: murs47 on September 23, 2009, 02:28:16 AM
(http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/251/8/6/Marvel_Disney_by_Eldelgado.jpg)
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Podmark on September 23, 2009, 02:50:35 AM
lol awesome
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel!
Post by: Tomato on October 09, 2009, 07:32:23 AM
my feelings on this are not complicated at all.

Disney= Not Fox.
Not Fox= good thing.

Disney's pulled some odd moves in the past, but Fox... Dragon Ball Evolution and Wolverine Origins this year alone, not to to mention some of their other Superhero Gems.

Granted, Fox still has contracts so we likely won't see the end of the pointless X-sequels anytime soon, but it's more likely now that Disney's at the helm.