looking for encouragement and critique on progress. what do you think about his size and shape? he's about a head taller than male basic. does he need bigger muscles?
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3087/hemanm.jpg)
i don't know who made the skin, he will need a new skin when i am done in any case, due to all the new parts, like chest band, belt, and furry boots and loincloth. any idea who made this skin?
Yeah I'd say he needs to be more muscular, wider maybe?
Base looks like Gren's but I don't think it's his... If you're looking for a standard skinner though, *cough*TUE*cough*
As far as the mesh... the main muscles are fine (arms, legs) though I would maybe widen the lower legs a bit more. The main issue, to me, is the Torso. It shrinks almost cartoonishly thin in the center, and the gap in his... manhood is too wide.
build wise compared to current FF meshes you're talking along the lines of the likes of ren's superman with caps height. these pics show the perfect build
Spoiler
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/random/HM-sketch.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/random/review_motuc1_6.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/the_ultimate_evil/random/review_motuc1_large2.jpg)
here's a different view. the chest piece is from an unknown creator, so i'm not sure i can use it. trying to get permission now, cause it's just about perfect. (i designed the hair and sword however, took me all morning.) if i can't find the creator, i'll just make my own, no big deal.
do we want the axe and shield?
armor from a non skopeable(pic removed), so i'll be making my own. which is good, i've got a good idea.
oh, another thing, i used spherify to shape the shoulders, and it gave a lot more pixels. should i do this technique on the biceps as well?
gonna have to make some custom animations also.
and i'm thinking about castle greyskull.
i thickened the waist a bit.
That's looking great so far. Hey if you up for the axe and shield, I will just say don't let us stop you. :thumbup:
It's gonna be cool man! :thumbup: I wonder if that spherify technique makes the shoulder too spherical? The hair and sword are spot on. Can't wait to see this sucker done. ;)
hey, bc, did you ever get a chance to finish that female mentor?
i'm going to look at his shoulders next, try and make them less round, you are correct, they don't fit.
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9150/hemanhead.jpg)
give me some feedback on his face and hair please. i changed them up a bit from male basic to fit tue's pic. i want to make this my best mesh ever. cause bentongrey, daglob, cmdrkeonig, and vertex gave me good support, and friendly advice. and kssaint, but i haven't seen him in a while.
i'll take advice on the waist and legs as well. thing is, i need you artist types critiques, cause i was thinking about it, when i recently tried to skin. i have a lot of technical savvy with max, but no real artistic skill.
and for the arms, is this better? i made the shoulder less round, and fixed his waist.
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1418/hemanarm.jpg)
oh, and the chest. wider? as you can see, i've stretched it out from male basic quite a bit already. i'll remap it when i'm done so the skin doesn't stretch.
I'm so glad you were able to get meshing again dude!
I HATE what you're meshing but :P someone has to I suppose.
Love the quality man, you're proving you haven't lost a beat!
What about Beyonder's male muscular tall mesh? That might be easier to mess around with instead of male basic.
Just suggesting. I really know nothing about meshing.
The hair is nice! :thumbup: It resembles the pics very well. :D
As for the arms, It looks better for me, about the chest, I didn't notice till it was pointed out, but it's ok for me.
This all looks great. More stuff to play wihh.
It looks great so far man (love the hair and face, fantastic work.) but can we get a full front shot of the body? It'd give me a better frame of reference for any critique I have.
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9497/hemanfullfront.jpg)
i think i'm done with the body, unless you have something i need to change. i think i fixed the hips and legs. you can see the start of the armor here, without skin, of course.
Very nice. Your first preview had him looking like he'd been pulled apart like a piece of bubble gum, so I'm glad to see how good it looks now. That hair is brilliant.
Love that hair!
Oh hey, nice musculature on that. Seriously, youve really proportioned him good.
I approve. :xancool:
will he be always holding his sword or just on some of his melee attacks.never know when he may want to just bare knuckle duke it out.
cool...that build looks just right... :thumbup:
good encouragement, thank you.
Quote from: herodad1 on July 26, 2009, 09:53:49 PM
will he be always holding his sword or just on some of his melee attacks.never know when he may want to just bare knuckle duke it out.
i am using minute man as a base, so the weapon will be like the staff for those animations. i will be making some new animations for him based on those however.
Nice work! How about using Gren's Grim Hogan as a base for the keyframes? I always found that the arms on it extend a little to far out but if you alter 'em I'm sure it'll be cool. As for Ms. Mentor...I think I finished that...I gotta look back and see. I'll get back to you later. ;)
by the power of my bootcuffs, i have the power!
(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2396/armorofpower.jpg)
Quote from: bearded on July 27, 2009, 02:36:06 PM
by the power of my bootcuffs, i have the power!
(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2396/armorofpower.jpg)
...and a furry loincloth! With very little trouble this could also become Conan (and Thongor, and Brak, and Claw, and Gullivar, and John, and Kull, and...)
...and Kazar
for kf's i would look at shining knight or black knight. minute man works for staff based guys but not swords, but the mesh is look superb so far.
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on July 27, 2009, 03:46:57 PM
for kf's i would look at shining knight or black knight. minute man works for staff based guys but not swords
I agree 100%
Looks great Bearded.
i would like to use black knight or hogun, but i don't have those max files. what about law?
Check Gren's yahoo groups....the Grim Hogan max file is there. I can also send it to you if you like. ;)Let me know. He never released the max file for the Black Knight.
Check group 12. ;)
in group 8, fusion has released a he-man mesh, may 29, 2005. as well as man at arms, orko and any other master of the universe you could think of. so...it looks like it's been done.
i don't know if i should continue or turn it into something else.
Quote from: bearded on July 28, 2009, 01:54:30 PM
in group 8, fusion has released a he-man mesh, may 29, 2005. as well as man at arms, orko and any other master of the universe you could think of. so...it looks like it's been done.
i don't know if i should continue or turn it into something else.
Yes, but Fusion meshes are not for skoping, and it seems like there's another reason why skinners avoid them... So yeah, it's TECHNICALLY been done, but several skinners will kiss your feet if you do it again.
Besides, based on what I'm seeing... yours is better anyway.
:rolleyes: Very true.
ok, good enough. i'll make a he_man_versatile with many different weapons and sci fi guns then(daglob's idea).
The two of you should hook up and do this He-Man based on Tomato?s ?new? male_basic TM. I?m all for pushing the finger initiative forward! ;)
Quote from: bearded on July 28, 2009, 05:29:22 PM
ok, good enough. i'll make a he_man_versatile with many different weapons and sci fi guns then(daglob's idea).
WoohooQuote from: Blkcasanova247 on July 28, 2009, 05:34:17 PM
The two of you should hook up and do this He-Man based on Tomato’s “new” male_basic TM. I’m all for pushing the finger initiative forward! ;)
I agree, that's an excellent idea
So you'll put a bunch of different stuff on on him so we can make any Master of the Universe character we want right? Even Skeletor?
That He-Man mesh is shaping up very nicely.
I think you really made TUE's day.... get it? Tue'sDay. Snicker.
Quote from: style on July 28, 2009, 06:54:06 PM
So you'll put a bunch of different stuff on on him so we can make any Master of the Universe character we want right? Even Skeletor?
you mean like this?
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/862/mrskullhead.jpg)
blame daglob, it was his idea.
i would love to work with tomatoe's stuff, but i would have to start all over from the beginning.
Quote from: style on July 28, 2009, 06:54:06 PM
So you'll put a bunch of different stuff on on him so we can make any Master of the Universe character we want right? Even Skeletor?
as cool as that would be bearded, meshing he-man is kind enough, though MOTU re-used a lot of parts armour and such only really fitted on or two characters, and most accessories would be huge projects, its the main reason myself and fusion never got around to 90% of the characters we started
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2729/hoodhead.jpg)
closer.
fusion actually released a lot of his motu on group 8 and i think 7. was there more he didn't release?
i was just thinking of putting on different types of weapons mainly. not necessarily motu weapons, but law's sword, order's hammer, and some freshly made items.
i wouldn't say that my version is better than fusions, however. his pieces are amazing works of art!
Quote from: bearded on July 28, 2009, 10:31:18 PM
Quote from: style on July 28, 2009, 06:54:06 PM
So you'll put a bunch of different stuff on on him so we can make any Master of the Universe character we want right? Even Skeletor?
you mean like this?
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/862/mrskullhead.jpg)
blame daglob, it was his idea.
i would love to work with tomatoe's stuff, but i would have to start all over from the beginning.
Not really... you'd need to change the hands, but the rest is pretty much just mapping changes. If you want, I can go ahead and send you the Male_Basic_TM max now.
How is the skinability of this going to be? Are you mapping it for Male Basic or other?
If other, can you map it to MB as well? I see many WWE meshes coming from this if done right. :D
Quote from: Tomato on July 29, 2009, 04:48:00 AM
Not really... you'd need to change the hands, but the rest is pretty much just mapping changes. If you want, I can go ahead and send you the Male_Basic_TM max now.
Oh how happy this would make me
Quote from: primus on July 30, 2009, 03:27:50 AM
Quote from: Tomato on July 29, 2009, 04:48:00 AM
Not really... you'd need to change the hands, but the rest is pretty much just mapping changes. If you want, I can go ahead and send you the Male_Basic_TM max now.
Oh how happy this would make me
tomatoe is 5.1 and i'm 4.2.
i'm experimenting with keyframes now, and some meshes are developing based on all of your suggestions here. might as well, no need to waste, right? also, i'm pretty sure that by exporting with a great variety of keyframes, they will all work with the same model, so you can use the keyframe tool to switch them around at will.
when you say claw, you mean the unconquered?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a7/SonjaClaw1.jpg/250px-SonjaClaw1.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a7/SonjaClaw1.jpg/250px-SonjaClaw1.jpg)
I dunno if it's too late to do anything about this, but you might make te skull a little smaller, even if iteans clipping a little. The skinner will just have to skin the head and the skull the same color.
Quote from: bearded on July 31, 2009, 01:30:55 AM
tomatoe is 5.1 and i'm 4.2.
5, actually. While I could technically patch to 5.1, I've never seen the need... I only export to FF1 anyway, makes my life simpler.
Quote from: bearded on July 31, 2009, 01:30:55 AM
tomatoe is 5.1 and i'm 4.2.
Maybe send Tomato your max file when you're done and he can alter the sucker...that's of course if you're both into it. ;)
Quote from: Blkcasanova247 on July 31, 2009, 04:52:56 PM
Quote from: bearded on July 31, 2009, 01:30:55 AM
tomatoe is 5.1 and i'm 4.2.
Maybe send Tomato your max file when you're done and he can alter the sucker...that's of course if you're both into it. ;)
Yeah, what he said :P
or I could offer him an import/export format which would contain MOST of the relevant data in my max files.
i can easily make the skull smaller.
and now that i think of it, i have to have fingers to do claw the unconquered properly.
umm bearded you do know skeletor has a totally different armour and design, I just don't want to do all this work unless you want to
Quote from: Tomato on July 31, 2009, 05:11:03 PM
or I could offer him an import/export format which would contain MOST of the relevant data in my max files.
Sweet! :)
How goes He-Man these days? ^_^
thanks for asking. i made some tangent meshes based on my work so far, and have sent off iron jaw and conan to be skinned. i'll probably work some more on him today, unless tue scares me off some more.
what did i do now?
i'm just using you as an excuse for my randomness in finishing projects.
ahh just like the other members of hero force :D
Any chance of seeing another preview of him at this stage?
i've been working on small peices for style and daglob.
other members of hero force? does this mean i'm a member of hero force?
i'll do some work on him in the morning.
Cool :rolleyes:
Hmmm... :unsure:
hey ya. thanks for your interest. honestly all the fusion meshes threw my game. but i did release the iron jaw and conan to be skinned. and i've made a lot of secret projects that have and will be released, i just don't get a lot of fanfare for. like the adam warlock on the champions site? that's my staff.
i will get back to he man, i'm sure. i just keep getting side tracked. like, today i'm going to make thunderstrikes mace.
but i will tell you, interest will keep me going on something. that's how i made medusa.
a mace for thunderstrike?COOL!!!
Just checking on He man, haven't seen him around lately :P
Quote from: bearded on August 27, 2009, 04:38:11 PM
hey ya. thanks for your interest. honestly all the fusion meshes threw my game. but i did release the iron jaw and conan to be skinned. and i've made a lot of secret projects that have and will be released, i just don't get a lot of fanfare for. like the adam warlock on the champions site? that's my staff.
i will get back to he man, i'm sure. i just keep getting side tracked. like, today i'm going to make thunderstrikes mace.
but i will tell you, interest will keep me going on something. that's how i made medusa.
I APOLOGIZE I could have sworn I put it in the readme that you did the staff! I think u r a CHAMPION MESHER THAT WILL GET HIS DUE AND FANFARE!!!! If I have anything to say about it!!! :thumbup: ;)
Quote from: style on September 20, 2009, 01:16:09 AM
I APOLOGIZE I could have sworn I put it in the readme that you did the staff! I think u r a CHAMPION MESHER THAT WILL GET HIS DUE AND FANFARE!!!! If I have anything to say about it!!! :thumbup: ;)
i'm sure you did, i didn't mean to imply. i just meant it didn't get all the hooplah of a full mesh with custom animations. not that it needs it, i was pointing out i was still working on things.
i will probably get back to he man at some point. interest keeps me motivated.
Well allow me to motivate you some more....get yer keister in gear and finish him!!!! :P
Hey Bearded? How is "you know who" coming? I am pretty set on pursuing that, so I'd Fang you very much if you could finish him up sometime in the next couple months so we can him skinned. ^_^
Lord Voldemort?!?
Heh, nope.
Quote from: bearded on July 26, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9497/hemanfullfront.jpg)
i think i'm done with the body, unless you have something i need to change. i think i fixed the hips and legs. you can see the start of the armor here, without skin, of course.
Dude - these look awesome. Great work.