So I just bought 70-72 and what in the flaming frell did I just pay for...
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Why is Red Devil still on the team when his power are gone? What is the point of having him stand in the background and almost get hurt.
What is going on with Rose Wilson? Isn't she a Terror Titan (whatever the frell that is)?
Why did Jericho become evil again?
What happened to Match? I'm guessing he's at STAR Labs?
When did they get a danger room?
I thought Rose Wilson killed Bombshell (who I'm actually happy to see)?
What is the point of having Kid Eternity on the team if he's just going to stand around in the form of dead Titans? And Pantha? Really?
When this comic start doing the "witty" Matt Fraction recap windows? If you are going to steal from a X-writer try Fabian Nicieza and Scott Lobdell.
Sounds like you paid for trash... and sadly, I think you're talking about an arc I actually read on my random checkups on TT. The Rose thing takes place after Terror Titans, which explains Static's position on the team as well.
Also, don't credit Fraction with those "witty" captions (Fraptions). I know certain reviewers like to think he started those, but they're old. Fraction probably took them from Austen's X-men run himself. *explodes* :P
I'll try to answer, but really... Teen Titans hasn't been good for awhile. The low point, I think, was Marvin's death... even though I hated the character, that whole arc was kinda dumb.
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I am kinda hoping the return of Superboy and Kid Flash will revitalize the book though. Anyway...
-Because he's determined to be a titan, and the others kinda feel sorry for him since he lost his powers. I know for awhile he just hung around the house, so him being in costume is an improvement
-She betrayed the Terror Titans in the little mini "Terror Titans" book thing. As for what's going on... who the frell knows. She's not a Titan at the moment, and the last I saw she was seeing Wonder Girl as her conscience and just overall being a bit nuts.
-Because the writers pulled a Rogue on him. Apparently all the people he's invaded talk to him, and Deathstroke makes him crazy. And yes, that is every bit as dumb as it sounds.
-I don't know, actually... Last I saw match was right before the whole Jericho is evil idiocy.
-I actually can't say... that thing randomly popped up in an issue as far as I know. Seriously, at least they could make a new name for it :thumbdown:
-Turns out she's unkillable, but now she's turned on the people who hired her (secret government peeps) and is staying with the titans so they don't attack her.
-Because the writers, in their infinate wisdom, decided they needed him there for a few story lines and have kept him beyond any usefulness.
-Because the writing is horrible.
I dropped this title a little after OYL and I am so glad I did. That would have been two years worth of comic money down the drain. Why is a title that was in the top 5 three years ago in such terrible shape now? Also since Static is on the team does that mean the Milestone universe has collapsed into the DC after Countdown?
Anyone else feel like Cassie is suffering from Donna Troy syndrome?
Hehe.... Bwahahaha!!!!!!
Silly peeps, this is actually GOOD. The stuff only sounds random when you look at peices individually.
AA#1:
#1: He started his career without powers (like Robin) He's probably going to get his powers back eventually. One hint here was when they read his contract with Neron. Neron didn't actually give him powers. He merely unlocked the power within him.
#2: Rose is being Rose. She's a free agent who has more heroic tendencies than evil tendencies. She decided to join the Terror Titans so that she could investigate the Darkside club from the inside.
#3: Uh... he hasn't been mentally stable for a long time.
#4: probably locked up in STAR labs.
#5: It's "always" been there. It's just a part of their gym.
#6: She's not that easy to kill.
#7: he's a former Titan who can do a lot more than just stand around.
#8: Why not?
#9: I like them.
Prev:
#1: It's not trash.... (see above)
#2: yeah they're old. Maybe even something that predates Austen.
AA#2:
#1: Get the TPB
#1a: It's not. IMO it's still in the T5. I LOVE the characterizations. Yes, the storylines can be crazy. but they're not horrible.
#1b: No it means that the DCAU has been merged into Earth-1 in some way. Yes, Static Shock takes place in the DCAU. He even had to fight the JLA in one episode. :)
#2: Hmm... considering the character's origin it's a derivative idea, but not the same. The only real shock was when they revealed that she was a daughter of Zeus.
1) I know he started off powerless but he wasn't like Robin at all. He was a kid with a bunch of gadgets who was sort of a loser. The reason I'm asking why is he still there is he's not in his Red Devil costume and he's was pretty useless the three issues I read.
2) Rose use to be a very focused, well-mannered babysitter for Lian Harper then became sort of a psychotic daughter's little girl. Now, she's just off and by off I mean boring.
3) Uhmm he was perfectly fine when I left the title and this whole Jericho is evil again is sort of a slap in the face of who the character really is. Read any Titans comic by Perez and you'll see what I mean.
4) I guessed that.
5) It wasn't there when Johns was writing the comic and it most certainly looks like the danger room.
6) Obviously.
7) Kid Eternity wasn't a Titan until this volume of the comic and the three issues I read he just stood around looking like dead folks.
#1: I would never spend my money on a TPB of this comics. It is dren.
#1a: Uhmmm no its not. It is selling extremely poorly.
#1b: Static is a character from a little universe known as Milestone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milestone_Media). Before they made him into a caricature of black youth, Static use to be really urban.
#2: What I'm actually referring to is the Donna Troy Syndrome. When you reveal yet another super-secret aspect about a third-tier character in order to power them up. Donna Troy became a Titan of Myth and got a really bad redesign and Cassie's recent power-up seems to be the nail in her character coffin. In a few years I am betting she'll be pregnant, raped, depowered, or killed.
I thought about it a little more and the reason I hate the current writer is the storylines are cheap rip offs of previous Titan tales. As a long-time (I was reading Teen Titans before X-Men) Titans fan I'm bored with the writing. They should really give this title to Gail Simone or PAD.
I also stopped reading this title during One Year Later...ugh! :thumbdown:
This is fun!
#1. You may not see it as trash, and I'm OK with that because that's your perception and opinion, but I did, do, and probably will continue to do so in the future based on what I read and my standards for this book and its characters (especially Static whom I wanted to see back in action for a long time. Just not the version they're portraying now who's more reminiscent of "Static Shock"). The best we can do here is to agree to disagree.
#2. Correcto.
Whilst it's not my most favouritist book ever, I sort of like it.
To address one of AA's initial points:
I think having a de-powered Eddie hang around is actually a good thing. It allows the exploration of how a superhero feels if they have to go back to being a regular person, (which I'll admit is a seam already mined many times before, but show me something in comics which is original).
It also shows the team is a group of friends, almost a family, not just a convenient collection of superpowers. It goes against the hackneyed team-book convention of writing out a team member because they lost their powers, which happens to those without their own comic a bit too often for my tastes.
It allows some actual character development for Eddie, and for us to see he's a person outside of the costume and powers.
In short, I find his character a bit more interesting now than I did when he had powers.
I do think the book is floundering a little in recent months, and needs a better sense of direction, though.
Quote from: tommyboy on July 19, 2009, 12:05:46 PM
I think having a de-powered Eddie hang around is actually a good thing. It allows the exploration of how a superhero feels if they have to go back to being a regular person...
I totally respect that idea completely. In fact I imagine that is what Marvin and Wendy were on the team. However, an obviously untrained human (who actually has a powersuit that he used once since) fighting the Fearsome Five seems like a bad idea.
Teen Titans hasn't been the same since Johns left. But worse for me was losing Connor and Bart. I never cared as much for most of the replacement characters. The book needs a shot in the arm somehow.
The most hilarious thing was when they did the same essential storyline 3 times in a row: Titans vs Evil Titans in Titans East, Titans of Tomorrow and then Terror Titans.
AA:
#2: It a question of what she's focused on. Now?
#3: not really. he mostly acted normal, but actually being normal? Not really. Yes, I've seen Perez's work.
#5: It's just part of the gym. It's mostly punching pags that move.
#7: Hmm.. Okay he wasn't an official member. but he did help them in Teen Titans #31 (2006).
1a: I meant best as in "things I like most". It's one of my favorite DC titles.
2: Hmm... It didn't start with Troy though. It's been done LOTS of times, the fact that they did it with Cassie is largely a coincidence. Actually they've done it with most of the Titans at one point or other. Revealing Raven's parentage, then having the rest of the Titans kill her, sorta. Bombshell's revival. Cyborg and Robin whipping out new stuff out of left field, such as the Robin Cave. Beast Boy as the son of a Megalomaniac is another.
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#1: Reminiscent? Nuh uh. He's pretty much IDENTICAL to his DCAU counterpart. How do I know? I liked his show. :p I hope his rogues gallery shows up. :)
tommyboy:
I totally agree. I hope that he gets NEW powers when they do finally remanifest.
Podmark:
Yeah the team names sucked.
yes, marhawkman, but you missed the point. I wanted to read about the actual "Static," not his animated counterpart. They're not the same, personality-wise. ;)
Meh... I've said this repeatedly in various conversations I've had about the title... It's been in a state of continuous limping since Infinite Crisis/OYL, like DC's just been like "just keep pounding issues out until Superboy and Kid Flash come back," kinda like how JLA limped on between Identity Crisis and Infinite Crisis before finally being rebooted for OYL. I think in many respects we'll see a pickup once Superboy and Bart return... if for no other reason then their return alleviates some of the ANGST that I feel has plagued every single issue since OYL. Plus, if Flash Rebirth is any indication, Bart will be spending his time trying to reunite the team.
Quote from: Tomato on July 20, 2009, 04:57:27 AM
Meh... I've said this repeatedly in various conversations I've had about the title... It's been in a state of continuous limping since Infinite Crisis/OYL, like DC's just been like "just keep pounding issues out until Superboy and Kid Flash come back," kinda like how JLA limped on between Identity Crisis and Infinite Crisis before finally being rebooted for OYL. I think in many respects we'll see a pickup once Superboy and Bart return... if for no other reason then their return alleviates some of the ANGST that I feel has plagued every single issue since OYL. Plus, if Flash Rebirth is any indication, Bart will be spending his time trying to reunite the team.
BUT theres no sign Superboy is coming back. I've read nothing about that and he's got his own solo book coming out next month. Kid-Flash is more likely but I haven't heard anything official yet. For all we know he could be a regular in the next Flash ongoing.
Either way the book lost Robin, so the core still won't be united.
Prev: Well, I don't think they ever really considered that as a viable option.
Podmark: Yeah, they'll be doing random stuff until the next arc starts. Or has it? :???:
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I read Issue 73 today.
It had Abe Lincoln getting fast food.
Does this book have any Self-Respect AT ALL?
what? it kinda makes sense to me. Wouldn't you want to try the food if you found yourself in the future?
Quote from: marhawkman on July 31, 2009, 07:48:24 PM
what? it kinda makes sense to me. Wouldn't you want to try the food if you found yourself in the future?
Marhawkman... no. Just... no.
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This page is the kind or idiocy you'd see in a young Keanu Reeves movie, not in a superhero comic.
Have to agree with Tomato. The book was one of my all-time favorites (since the original Teen Titans to "New" Titans to John's first issues), but it is worse than Jurgen's Titans. No direction, obvious plots, bad characterization...
DC editors looks kind of lost nowadays.
Actually it's part of why I like it. teenagers are known for their habits of doing random things that happen to strike their fancy. It makes sense for them to (sometimes) use their powers like a toy.
I dropped Teen Titans a while back after one or two arcs of McKeever's run, and by then I really hadn't been enjoying it the way I used to (i.e. John's run). But one thing I did kinda like in McKeever's run was some odd scenes of the characters in their civilian clothes, going to school and the like. Something that you saw a little bit in John's run, but as time went on you saw less and less.